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legendary
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Well if and when I can afford it I may get an SSD to try it out, but that's when Tongue Right now though I'll be happy getting my computer, at least with the SSD I can just slot it in once I get it so it's not a big deal getting one later you know Tongue  Also, typical post service! Said it was arriving yesterday but it turns out it's coming today instead! Just when I had to go to a doctors appointment as well!

Again though, even without the SSD drives you guys don't realise how much of a difference just having this 8 core processor is going to make to me Tongue
legendary
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SSD's are just too expensive for me to justify right now, I know everybody keeps annoyingly swearing by them but honestly, as I said, you guys have no idea how slow my processor is, that's going to be the biggest improvement and as far as I'm concerned the only necessary improvement, the extra RAM will help plenty too. Spending such an amount of money on an SSD drive that isn't even that large just to shave a few seconds off the loading times doesn't sit right with me as you've seen me demonstrate It takes 5 minutes to load Battlefield currently so I'm more than happy with the idea of being able to load it in less than 30 seconds.

Going by the youtube benchmarks other games should load even faster, so yeah, I'm not bothered about SSD, talk to me in a year or two when 1TB SSD's are the same price as HDDs and I'll have probably bought one.

My family room computer has a core2duo in it, e8400, and a SSD was by far the best upgrade I ever made. I'll upgrade the processor/motherboard when I have leftovers from something else.  

You don't need a 1 TB SSD, Samsung Evo 840 250 GB is on sale for $99 on Amazon, and use your existing platter drive as a secondary data drive. Before I got one a couple years ago, I made all the excuses about not wanting to spend the money on a SSD too, but once I got one, I realized how dumb it was to not get one earlier. It doesn't "just" shave 5 seconds off loading time, it makes everything faster and pretty much instantaneous for everything. If you spend any amount of time on your computer, especially for work, you are handicapping yourself. You'll understand and kick yourself one day when you finally get one. My HTPC/gaming computer has a new i5, and my file server has an i7, so it isn't like I don't know what an upgrade from the e8400 would be like either.
legendary
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my rule on GPUs is buy them New for around £100-150 never spent more than that and never needed to. the reason to buy new is alot of clowns out there destroy there cards with overheating and poor cooling, so what seems a good deal turns into a lemon

as for education here in the UK it sucks. hell i failed English (please note the UK speaks ENGLISH) how that possible im not sure but it happened, im pretty much self taught in everything i do from mechanics to computers, i also refuse to bay £4000 for a university course on something simple. the government can go and shove it, the only reason id do a uni course is get a fat ass loan and never pay it back (only have to pay it back if you earn £30k+ a year which i dont intend to do) and if i did earn that much i sure as hell wouldn't tell the government Cheesy (fix the holes in my god damn street then we will talk about you getting my money) 

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only have to pay it back if you earn £30k+ a year which i dont intend to do
this makes me sad

not my fault the government is stupid, just shows no matter how much you spend on education you cant make stupid people smart... or to quote an American. you cant polish a turd...

hero member
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Back in the day I felt blessed to own a pentium 100mhz that could play Doom in at it's full glory, I felt spoiled compared to my neighbours with their 386 computers. The good old days. These days I feel overwhelmed with too much computing power and dull games.
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my rule on GPUs is buy them New for around £100-150 never spent more than that and never needed to. the reason to buy new is alot of clowns out there destroy there cards with overheating and poor cooling, so what seems a good deal turns into a lemon

as for education here in the UK it sucks. hell i failed English (please note the UK speaks ENGLISH) how that possible im not sure but it happened, im pretty much self taught in everything i do from mechanics to computers, i also refuse to bay £4000 for a university course on something simple. the government can go and shove it, the only reason id do a uni course is get a fat ass loan and never pay it back (only have to pay it back if you earn £30k+ a year which i dont intend to do) and if i did earn that much i sure as hell wouldn't tell the government Cheesy (fix the holes in my god damn street then we will talk about you getting my money) 

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only have to pay it back if you earn £30k+ a year which i dont intend to do
this makes me sad

Agreed. I'm in the US, paying >$40000 a year for attending school, and I can't get the grants that I need so I have to take out huge loans...
b!z
legendary
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my rule on GPUs is buy them New for around £100-150 never spent more than that and never needed to. the reason to buy new is alot of clowns out there destroy there cards with overheating and poor cooling, so what seems a good deal turns into a lemon

as for education here in the UK it sucks. hell i failed English (please note the UK speaks ENGLISH) how that possible im not sure but it happened, im pretty much self taught in everything i do from mechanics to computers, i also refuse to bay £4000 for a university course on something simple. the government can go and shove it, the only reason id do a uni course is get a fat ass loan and never pay it back (only have to pay it back if you earn £30k+ a year which i dont intend to do) and if i did earn that much i sure as hell wouldn't tell the government Cheesy (fix the holes in my god damn street then we will talk about you getting my money) 

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only have to pay it back if you earn £30k+ a year which i dont intend to do
this makes me sad
legendary
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my rule on GPUs is buy them New for around £100-150 never spent more than that and never needed to. the reason to buy new is alot of clowns out there destroy there cards with overheating and poor cooling, so what seems a good deal turns into a lemon

You forgot about Bitcoin mining Wink Cheesy

when i came to that i didnt buy new XD just got them cheap off ebay hoped they where decent and mined until they failed. buying them new was to expensive licky for me non of my cards failed and even better was i was one of the first to get ASIC's it was on 2x5ghs from BFL but got them early
legendary
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my rule on GPUs is buy them New for around £100-150 never spent more than that and never needed to. the reason to buy new is alot of clowns out there destroy there cards with overheating and poor cooling, so what seems a good deal turns into a lemon

You forgot about Bitcoin mining Wink Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1540
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my rule on GPUs is buy them New for around £100-150 never spent more than that and never needed to. the reason to buy new is alot of clowns out there destroy there cards with overheating and poor cooling, so what seems a good deal turns into a lemon

as for education here in the UK it sucks. hell i failed English (please note the UK speaks ENGLISH) how that possible im not sure but it happened, im pretty much self taught in everything i do from mechanics to computers, i also refuse to bay £4000 for a university course on something simple. the government can go and shove it, the only reason id do a uni course is get a fat ass loan and never pay it back (only have to pay it back if you earn £30k+ a year which i dont intend to do) and if i did earn that much i sure as hell wouldn't tell the government Cheesy (fix the holes in my god damn street then we will talk about you getting my money)  
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
I think the best improvement over your old system (other than the RAM and processor) would be the hard drive.  An SSD can do wonders with old games, esp ones that have thousands of bitmaps to load, like Call of Duty.



yeah, a SSD made my life much better  Cheesy

my first own PC was a Pentium with 266 Mhz - damn fast  Shocked
legendary
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24 and why does that matter?

Edit: Fyi, I'm pretty sure I said education is a scam, not just secondary schools

Just curious. Why is it a scam, and do you honestly consider yourself better off not pursuing any sort of education?

I'm taking private tuition, not only is it cheaper but I'm also getting a much better education out of it, how the hell else do you think I learned to set gemstones? Youtube tutorials? lol Tongue Basically as I learned from one horrid experience after another teachers make all sorts of wild claims about what you can achieve and what kind of jobs you can get within education and then of course you discover once you're done all the things they taught you were completely useless in the real world unless it was some kind of very specialised degree you were taking, doctor or lawyer would work obviously, but that takes grades most people don't have.

If that isn't enough evidence to stack up on my side of the argument, a lot of my friends are coming back home now and don't know what to do with themselves because everything I've predicted has come true, the university loan system is also ready to collapse in my country, so yes, considering I'm learning how to produce stuff and sell it, I am better off, hell, even if I don't get going very much I suppose I could always get a job doing welding or start building stuff from that open source ecology website with what I've learned if worse comes to worse Tongue I'd just have to get used to the idea of measuring in centimetres and metres rather than millimetres.

In short though, the best decision I ever made was deliberately going out of my way to find teachers who wouldn't bullshit me and so far, it's paying off a lot, you aren't going to find them in schools and universities that rely on their students being ignorant.

Oh and if this isn't enough, John Oliver agrees with me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8pjd1QEA0c

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I used to have a Pentium 166MMX, and buy a new computer every 2 years. Back then everything was developing so fast that you couldn't play new games on an older system and the components were much more expensive. Now you can have the same computer for 5 years and still be able to play, so I don't think they are spoiled now.

Yeah, it's actually true that and I was only messing around with the spoiled thing Cheesy I remember roughly how much we paid for my computer 5 years ago and it's worked out about the same here too so I've gotten a hell of a lot out of it, point is, don't be stupid and immediately just buy the next new graphics card assuming it will make a massive difference, because it won't.
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Dude's a hero account and claims he doesn't have money for a $100 SSD, dude sell your Bitcoins!   Cheapskate probably has several $million on his hard drive.

You don't become a hero member by being productive with your time Wink

Given I have a business thread on here I resent that, but yes, I have no life Sad

Selling handmade jewellery doesn't count. Could you support yourself on that income? Of course not.

You think the world financial system is going to collapse, and post-secondary education is a scam. But look at you dude. You live with your parents, and you spend your days playing video games. Aren't you a bit too old for this?

Don't let your life go to waste man. You're a great guy.

Shots fired, haha. I'm debating between a Lenovo Y50 and the Z710 for gaming. Would the 5400 RPM/8GB Memory still be sufficient for a game like Heroes of Newerth? (if anyone knows that game)
sr. member
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Infleum
I used to have a Pentium 166MMX, and buy a new computer every 2 years. Back then everything was developing so fast that you couldn't play new games on an older system and the components were much more expensive. Now you can have the same computer for 5 years and still be able to play, so I don't think they are spoiled now.
b!z
legendary
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24 and why does that matter?

Edit: Fyi, I'm pretty sure I said education is a scam, not just secondary schools

Just curious. Why is it a scam, and do you honestly consider yourself better off not pursuing any sort of education?
legendary
Activity: 1540
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24 and why does that matter?

Edit: Fyi, I'm pretty sure I said education is a scam, not just secondary schools
b!z
legendary
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You do realise I'm learning how to cast silver and set gemstones right? Also making some drastic improvements on my artwork which I will be posting up when I'm happy with them and then I've also got a 2D platformer that's nearly ready for some alpha testing that I want to put out thanks to the blender game engine Tongue

Part of the reason I post so much and game a lot is because I have to actually sit down and think about my work a lot before I can do any of it >_< left brain thinkers wouldn't understand that Tongue

How old are you again?
legendary
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You do realise I'm learning how to cast silver and set gemstones right? Also making some drastic improvements on my artwork which I will be posting up when I'm happy with them and then I've also got a 2D platformer that's nearly ready for some alpha testing that I want to put out thanks to the blender game engine Tongue

Part of the reason I post so much and game a lot is because I have to actually sit down and think about my work a lot before I can do any of it >_< left brain thinkers wouldn't understand that Tongue so unless you have a working knowledge of anatomy and understand how vertex groups work get off my case!
b!z
legendary
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Dude's a hero account and claims he doesn't have money for a $100 SSD, dude sell your Bitcoins!   Cheapskate probably has several $million on his hard drive.

You don't become a hero member by being productive with your time Wink

Given I have a business thread on here I resent that, but yes, I have no life Sad

Selling handmade jewellery doesn't count. Could you support yourself on that income? Of course not.

You think the world financial system is going to collapse, and post-secondary education is a scam. But look at you dude. You live with your parents, and you spend your days playing video games. Aren't you a bit too old for this?

Don't let your life go to waste man. You're a great guy.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000
Dude's a hero account and claims he doesn't have money for a $100 SSD, dude sell your Bitcoins!   Cheapskate probably has several $million on his hard drive.

You don't become a hero member by being productive with your time Wink

Given I have a business thread on here I resent that, but yes, I have no life Sad
b!z
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1010
Dude's a hero account and claims he doesn't have money for a $100 SSD, dude sell your Bitcoins!   Cheapskate probably has several $million on his hard drive.

You don't become a hero member by being productive with your time Wink
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