Topic: Kim Jong Un Had His Uncle Eaten Alive By 120 Revenous Dogs - page 3. (Read 5662 times)

Do you have any solid evidence to prove otherwise?

I guess cases of cannibalism from NK in the 90s was propaganda too.

It almost certainly is.

In 2014  if someone is found guilty of corruption ,you put him in jail,not in a cage with 120 hungry dogs.

I guess that is possible.  I learn about this a while ago and was understanding that this was a legitimate story.  Now that you point it out I think there was a strong element of speculation in the article that I read.
Though I should add that I don't think it is totally out of the realm of possibility.

This could be a propaganda, this is hard to prove and no evidence is supporting this.We don't know for sure. He could be a very spoiled brat that thinks himself as god.

I can't believe he would sit there as his family member is devoured by 120 dogs.  That is sick I also remember reading that there were others in the faimly that were exiled and a few more that were going to be sentenced to death.

It has nothing to do with our conversation because you have decided to. It would be as if one would be collecting voodoo dolls for their naive beauty while rejecting the very purpose of their creation for being an atheist and rejecting superstition.
If you say the action of China, its politburo, its policy, its military might and Tibet monks immolating themselves in public are not connected actions then yes nothing in the world will convince you otherwise, beautiful colored charts included.

Now is the Kim Jong family pro comunists or pro capitalists? "It does not matter, as it is a monarchy" I can hear my socialist friends tell me 

I suppose that it's in Tibet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet_Autonomous_Region
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_support_for_Tibetan_independence

This movement doesn't care about economy, money or whatever. They simply wish to convert Tibet Autonomous Region into independent country.

There is a disputed territory, and sometimes such self-immolation events are performed here. Territorial disputes never have been free (Remember the Northern Ireland and other records in the history of Europe), in any form of government. It has nothing in common with subject of our discussion.

Is he a "protester" or did someone do that to him?

Yes. That is why I will never understand why people are opposed to beautiful charts like these. They should simply submit to the facts. 

100 or even 1000 times, it doesn't matter. We see what happenning in the China or Vietnam, and anybody able to compare this with DPRK or "liberal" USA. The difference is so obvious that only the blind people can deny this.



We can spend unlimited amount time trying to oppose this, but it would be a complete waste of time.

You have no idea how many times I have heard that speech from all my socialist friends. You got it Right on the Money! Err.. I meant to say "You nailed it perfectly with your Stakhanovite Thor Hammer!" 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_UUFNTLagk

The truth is that any revolutionary ways are stupid, it will never work in this way. Wartime is the only purpose for such type of economy, it won't be effective during the peacetime. For the peacetime you need a mixed economy, any changes should be implemented through many consequent reforms, otherwise you will see nothing except the seize of power, dictatorship and famine.

Lenin (a father of Marxism-Leninism) understood this and developed the New Economic Policy, a theory of mixed private & public ownership based economy. He and his followers were criticized for this idea by the rest of the party members, but it was able to restore the ruined economy during only a few years. By 1928, agricultural and industrial production had been restored to the 1913 (pre-World War I and pre-Civil War) level.

Unfortunately, Stalin along with group of his followers made a decision to abolish NEP and replace it with the radical version of Marxist economy. Mao Zedong in China and North Korea leaders are stalinism followers, they are doomed to repeat the same errors. China and Vietnam started an implementation of NEP-style mixed economy a long time ago.

China: 1978, stalinism followers were removed by Deng Xiaoping and his anti-stalinist group followers;
Vietnam: 1987, Party made the decision to start implementation of mixed economy.

Now China and Vietnam are developing very quickly, much faster than their neighbours. China and Vietnam are socialist republics, so... Yes, it works and it will continue work for a long time, which couldn't be said about the so-called "liberal" regimes.

I understand the theory from all my socialist friends:

"No true Socialist States were ever realized as all nations calling themselves "Socialist" during the 20th, 21th century were a fraud, a disguised Monarchy. Just wait! Wait for the 23rd century when, this time, TRUUUUEEE Socialism will be... De Facto! Sure Some may die in the way... But think of all of those who will benefit from it. At least they won't be dying for the Capitalism cause! and that, my friend, would a true Benediction... If I was not an atheist, being a socialist and all.

This time, this time, it will work!"


correct me If I am wrong 

Yep, it's republic de jure but monarchy de facto.

[...]
Although the DPRK officially describes itself as a Juche Korean-style socialist republic[10] and elections are held, it is widely considered a dictatorship that has been described as totalitarian and Stalinist[19][2][20] with an elaborate cult of personality around the Kim family. The Workers' Party of Korea, led by a member of the ruling family,[20] holds de facto power in the state and leads the Democratic Front for the Reunification of the Fatherland of which all political officers are required to be a member.[21] Juche, an ideology of self-reliance initiated by the country's first President, Kim Il-sung, became the official state ideology, replacing Marxism–Leninism, when the country adopted a new constitution in 1972.[22][23] In 2009, references to Communism (Chosŏn'gŭl: 공산주의) were removed from the country's constitution.[24]
The means of production are owned by the state through state-run enterprises and collectivized farms, and most services such as healthcare, education, housing and food production are state funded or subsidized.[25] In the 1990s North Korea suffered from a famine and continues to struggle with food production. In 2013, the UN identified North Korean government policies as the primary cause of the shortages and estimated that 16 million people required food aid.[26][27] North Korea's health care system has been a subject of controversy: the World Health Organization described it as "the envy of the developing world" while Amnesty International claims that it suffers from barely functioning hospitals, poor hygiene and epidemics.[28]
North Korea follows Songun, or "military-first" policy in order to strengthen the country and its government.[29] It is the world's most militarized society, with a total of 9,495,000 active, reserve, and paramilitary personnel. Its active duty army of 1.21 million is the 4th largest in the world, after China, the U.S., and India.[30] It is a nuclear-weapons state and has an active space program.[31][32][33]

The DPRK is there because you need a fool to purchase your missile technology and another fool to buy your atomic bomb technology.

You always need a fool to be worse than you.

So when the world's spotlight is looking into your own abuses you can then say "Hey! Relax! Maybe some monks in Tibet are burning themselves to death. OK. But It is not as if we have them eaten alive by ravenous dogs! We do have some limits!"


Also, make sure words like "people" and "democracy" are part of your country's name, especially if you are a fool.

North Korea it's a perfect proof that any form of rule (liberal republic, socialist republic, etc. - doesn't matter) can be converted into an absolute monarchy.  Kim Jong is a king here, that's it.

Kim Jong Un regime is a monarchy, it has absolutely nothing in common with socialist republic.

This wasn't easy to read. It saddens me that we are doing this to each other.
The Kim family's evil has to stop. Communism was wrong.
We let the USSR have their half of Korea. Well, the USSR isn't there anymore, so why is the DPRK?