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hero member
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The K1 will be as compact clean as any BE.

As for the other commentary.

If want better prices than a BE then get into group buys. BKKCoins can't sell enough to make back his effort that is why others will take up the slack.


I was not aware that BKK was getting a percentage of every sale.

Probably something real generous like 5-10%?!?

he deserves it!!
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The K1 will be as compact clean as any BE.

As for the other commentary.

If want better prices than a BE then get into group buys. BKKCoins can't sell enough to make back his effort that is why others will take up the slack. The idea here is VOLUME. The prices are fair and that is all that needs to be said.

Might want to keep on topic for the thread right?

How isn't a K1 worth the same as the BE is beyond me. If they market finds the price too high it will find it too high. As I have stated in the other threads it is amazing that as soon as we posted our prices some of the group buy BE prices dropped to meet our prices. Sorry but again I am not sure what premium there is on a BE vs a K1 at this moment in time.

Moreover I find these sorts of post about GREED pretty disingenuous given the fact you can get a much lower price if you were to simply group buy...I guess that doesn't mean anything? Well it does. No matter the price BKKCoins will get the same royalty per board. I think there are some people posting here deliberately to cast our prices as some how predatory. They are far from that I would say that they are satoshi for satoshi the best ones right now given you enter into group buys. Simple as that.

How about we get back the thread now... K1 news is good looks like the upgrades that BKKCoins plans are right in line with the ability to oc the K1 given the right hubs. That is great news for everyone the DIYers and those of use selling K1s as it puts this unit at par with the other offerings in the market currently.
legendary
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I thought that Open source was going to save us a bunch of money vs the Erupters.

Here's a quote from the Big Picture website:
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A percentage of revenue generated goes to BKKCoins who has spent month to bring the Klondike project to life. If you would like to support the open source hardware and software community this would be a great way to do so.We are so supportive of this project that even our own cooperative members have donated heat sinks, a IR temperature gun and bitcoin for the scope used by BKKCoins for testing as we believe strongly in supporting these sort of community based projects.
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Another way to support the open source community would be to contribute to the creators, or contribute to the project yourself directly, instead of buying from those who would make exorbitant profit off the efforts of others.

Send BKKCoins some BTC to support OSS, and then buy boards from whomever gives you the best price per GH/s.  It's cheaper and just as honorable.


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I thought that Open source was going to save us a bunch of money vs the Erupters.

Here's a quote from the Big Picture website:
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A percentage of revenue generated goes to BKKCoins who has spent months to bring the Klondike project to life. If you would like to support the open source hardware and software community this would be a great way to do so.We are so supportive of this project that even our own cooperative members have donated heat sinks, a IR temperature gun and bitcoin for the scope used by BKKCoins for testing as we believe strongly in supporting these sort of community based projects.
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legendary
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350 or better Mh/s and a price point at .79 or below for quantity might make sense.
They are not going to be as clean and compact as the Erupters so they are going to have to deliver more for less.
legendary
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I thought that Open source was going to save us a bunch of money vs the Erupters.

I guess...........



+1
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I thought that Open source was going to save us a bunch of money vs the Erupters.

I guess...........

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Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
You can get the cheaper price by joining in on my group buy (check my sig) or click here
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256 Mh/s versus 335 Mh/s for a USB block Erupter at the same price?  That doesn't seem competitive.

350+ for the K1. You are right BE aren't competitive since they can't OC.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2706866

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2741445

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2748156

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And about k1 (v 0.1) You said that it is better to replace 74AUP1G02GW with a 74AUP2G02, but in last update of BOM for K1 at github NOR Gate is 74AUP1G02GW.  Which is better to install?
Thank You!
QFN and SS both perform the same. It depends which one you can get. The SS ran out a while ago and there was QFN until just a day or two ago. It could be a while before they are easy to find again.

I haven't updated the K1 files yet. The new board revision will use the 2G02 but it's not pin compatible so you can't place that on the old board.

Here's a brief list of changes I'm doing for the K1:

- replace NOR gate with DUAL NOR gate
- add Schmitt inverter package
- chg PIC to QFN
- add thermistor for temperature sensing
- add 2 holes for mounting a heat sink
- Make both LEDs flashable (tied to PIC pins)
- make I2C non-thru hole SMD header type pads
- use 2mm board thickness for USB compatibility
- specify an alternate reg and inductor allowing 3A power (not for USB 2.0 ports)

I'm part way thru this now but have been sidetracked today by work on the web store (which is up now but not tested yet). Yay!

And if you buy 10 or 50 it will be even better.

10 or more Ƀ0.89
50 or more Ƀ0.79

http://bigpicturemining.com/klondike-miner/k1-nano
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256 Mh/s versus 335 Mh/s for a USB block Erupter at the same price?  That doesn't seem competitive.
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Here for information on hashing testing of the chips in K1 and K16 configurations:

350 on K16 BKKCoins: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2705473
300 and 350 on K1 marto74: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2706866


Some data from Burnin's testing of his boards, may be useful for BKK. It seems that HW errors are not linear with frequency:

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ambient: 25°C, water temperature 26°C
Chip Frequency - Chip surface temp, cgminer board-temp, Core voltage, power consumption, comments

Air cooling:
282 - 45.8, 40.5, 1.2, 46W, stable
340 - 50, 43, 1.2, 56W, stable
372 - 51.5, 45, 1.2, 61W, stable
390 - 52.5, 46, 1.2, 2% hw errors
390 - 53.3, 47.5, 1.25, 70W, stable
409 - 55, 48.5, 1.25, 2% errors
409 - 56.5, 51, 1.28, 77W, stable
434 - 57, 52, 1.28, 82W, 10% hw errors

Water cooling by Anfi-Tec:
282 - 40, 30, 1.016V, 33W, stable 170Mhash/watt undervolting
282 - 42, 30, 1.085V, 37W, stable
282 - 45, 30, 1.20V, 46W, stable stock 122Mhash/Watt
340 - 48, 30, 1.20V, 56W, stable
372 - 50, 30, 1.20V, 61W, stable
390 - 53, 30, 1.25V, 70W, stable
409 - 54, 30, 1.28V, 77W, stable
434 - 57, 31, 1.28V, 82W, 4% hw errors

legendary
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What speed can u get it up to on overclocking?
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legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
chirale, there is that Big Picture Mining, they will be selling completed miners with chips already included.
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Once Klondike 1 project is ready (well done BKKcoins!), who is planning to accept chips to assemble klondike 1?

 
Tnx guys!
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firstbits:1MinerQ
Any update on the Klondike K1 Nano USB Bitcoin Miner's?
I expect to complete a final revision of the board in a couple days, and then order a batch for final testing. The K16 has been verified and this is based on that, uses same firmware and cgminer driver, which are working, though quite basic still. Once boards are ordered I'll have time to polish the code and get a bootloader added (which allows upgrading via USB).

For anyone planning to use the board design for their own project / products, note that I will be changing it to the QFN version of the PIC and the parts list will have some changes.

The K16 has been running quite well for me in testing. The HW error rate is still a bit high and I think some board changes planned will help with that.
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Any update on the Klondike K1 Nano USB Bitcoin Miner's?
hero member
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Powered Hub 10+ Ports?
Overclocking?
Raspberry Pi?
SD Card with preflashed miner?

Our group is looking at fabricating a larger volume for sale just K1s.

$2 from every one we sell goes to BKKCoins.

Maybe August for some and larger numbers becoming available as chips arrive for September.

Potential volume 11000 K1s.

We will start a new thread as soon as we get closer to our fabrication date suffice to say we are just waiting on BKKCoins to finalize everything.
Fabrication will be with a large international smt company on the island of Batam in Indonesia. Close to Singapore.
We are also keen to bundle Raspberry Pi's, USB Hubs and pre-flashed SD cards for those who want a more complete solution.



All great ideas, especially donating to BKKcoins.
You are a class act!!



I'm giving BKK at least 10 times that considering he's making my units himself...

That is generous of you agreed he deserves millions.

I asked him he said $2 good enough for me and if everyone chipped in that for every board that was made he'd do fine. I am more worried about people who don't pay ... not really a class act thing just the right thing we all should do. It is called being normal.


All I'm saying is he's literally making my stuff so he gets everything I pay him. Given him almost a grand already to stuff.

I know... I mean that is great. Definitely want to have a beer with the guy at some point if he even survives the next two weeks with all the stress.
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The Last NXT Founder
Powered Hub 10+ Ports?
Overclocking?
Raspberry Pi?
SD Card with preflashed miner?

Our group is looking at fabricating a larger volume for sale just K1s.

$2 from every one we sell goes to BKKCoins.

Maybe August for some and larger numbers becoming available as chips arrive for September.

Potential volume 11000 K1s.

We will start a new thread as soon as we get closer to our fabrication date suffice to say we are just waiting on BKKCoins to finalize everything.
Fabrication will be with a large international smt company on the island of Batam in Indonesia. Close to Singapore.
We are also keen to bundle Raspberry Pi's, USB Hubs and pre-flashed SD cards for those who want a more complete solution.



All great ideas, especially donating to BKKcoins.
You are a class act!!



I'm giving BKK at least 10 times that considering he's making my units himself...

That is generous of you agreed he deserves millions.

I asked him he said $2 good enough for me and if everyone chipped in that for every board that was made he'd do fine. I am more worried about people who don't pay ... not really a class act thing just the right thing we all should do. It is called being normal.


All I'm saying is he's literally making my stuff so he gets everything I pay him. Given him almost a grand already to stuff.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Powered Hub 10+ Ports?
Overclocking?
Raspberry Pi?
SD Card with preflashed miner?

Our group is looking at fabricating a larger volume for sale just K1s.

$2 from every one we sell goes to BKKCoins.

Maybe August for some and larger numbers becoming available as chips arrive for September.

Potential volume 11000 K1s.

We will start a new thread as soon as we get closer to our fabrication date suffice to say we are just waiting on BKKCoins to finalize everything.
Fabrication will be with a large international smt company on the island of Batam in Indonesia. Close to Singapore.
We are also keen to bundle Raspberry Pi's, USB Hubs and pre-flashed SD cards for those who want a more complete solution.



All great ideas, especially donating to BKKcoins.
You are a class act!!



I'm giving BKK at least 10 times that considering he's making my units himself...

That is generous of you agreed he deserves millions.

I asked him he said $2 good enough for me and if everyone chipped in that for every board that was made he'd do fine. I am more worried about people who don't pay ... not really a class act thing just the right thing we all should do. It is called being normal.
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