Known alts of anyone: User generated - page 64.

Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

amazonrefunder1 and btcprivder1

Source: xetsr feedback on amazonrefunder1

Code:

Alt of btcprivder1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=546341) - Poxer skype used here: https://archive.is/3dA2S and https://archive.is/SufRA

Edit:
You can add JalalGrand to that list, reference again made by xetsr

Laosai

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Quote from: BitMaxz on October 15, 2015, 08:46:26 AM

I think some of your list is not an alt account maybe he sell it or he just a friend.. you need to proof that even if is the same ip. some country has a prepaid internet with static ip....
But thanks anyway i will use it as reference if i trade on them...

Quote from: BitMaxz on October 15, 2015, 09:14:07 AM

Ow i see maybe this is one person and using one bitcoin address... But any way this is good reference .and i will knowing him.
again i just check the links and i see the 3 of them is one person not all in the list. phibay,laosali and patatas he is in one wallet transaction... maybe he uses a coinbase as wallet that can generate bitcoin addresses... where the other proof that Shibashi Dogemoto
mr.coinstrader is in one person...

Stop thinking and making theories man, Grin

I already admitted those were my alts. You're quite correct on the selling part as I used to sell accounts. But let them list my alts and I am not worried (it somehow affects my privacy though) as I don't have bad intentions in this forum. Anyways nothing to explain more.

mexxer-2

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Quote from: BitMaxz on October 15, 2015, 09:14:07 AM

---snip---

Ow i see maybe this is one person and using one bitcoin address... But any way this is good reference .and i will knowing him.
again i just check the links and i see the 3 of them is one person not all in the list. phibay,laosali and patatas...

1) Please post only if you have evidence that either someone in the list is not an alt of another person/ someone is to be included in the list.
2) Read the post carefully before posting your opinion on it.
3) Owner of the accounts himself has acknowledged that those are indeed his accounts.
4) If you are here just to increase your post count please spare us your nonsense.

BitMaxz

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Quote from: Shield on October 15, 2015, 03:12:18 AM

Here are some alts of Laosai
Patatas
phibay
Shibashi Dogemoto
mr.coinstrader
=> (More Coming soon)

Tx ID
https://blockchain.info/tx/2c0d76d09ba5ac1f5aa4c0ec4a74dce336c00fbd3ec8b8e43fa43e836e77e5eb
https://blockchain.info/tx/e69c5befb0e8ed3e37c4593cc28a8751739b1925970a4466dadbc5b3a1a77c00

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11849004
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12342356
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12394425
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12337215
https://archive.is/CPy3Z

Ow i see maybe this is one person and using one bitcoin address... But any way this is good reference .and i will knowing him.
again i just check the links and i see the 3 of them is one person not all in the list. phibay,laosali and patatas he is in one wallet transaction... maybe he uses a coinbase as wallet that can generate bitcoin addresses... where the other proof that Shibashi Dogemoto
mr.coinstrader is in one person...

mexxer-2

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Quote from: BitMaxz on October 15, 2015, 08:46:26 AM

I think some of your list is not an alt account maybe he sell it or he just a friend.. you need to proof that even if is the same ip. some country has a prepaid internet with static ip....
But thanks anyway i will use it as reference if i trade on them...

Proof are alongside the accounts, and the evidences are not IP based but blockchain based , and I am pretty sure that no one shares their private keys unless the account is sold ofc.

BitMaxz

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I think some of your list is not an alt account maybe he sell it or he just a friend.. you need to proof that even if is the same ip. some country has a prepaid internet with static ip....
But thanks anyway i will use it as reference if i trade on them...

Quickseller

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Quote from: shorena on October 15, 2015, 07:49:59 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 15, 2015, 07:28:01 AM

Quote from: shorena on October 15, 2015, 07:19:04 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 15, 2015, 06:48:00 AM

-snip-
Added even the owner admits that they are indeed his alts.

So did I. I didnt know this is a scam list Wink

What might become a problem is that the list might become outdated over time. Esp. those that hold plenty of accounts will probably start to sell them.

What this (and similar) list proves is that at one point in time the same person owned all of these accounts, and may or may not own them today (assuming the blockchain evidence checks out). However at first glance, AFAICT, none of these accounts have scammed so IMO it is not necessary to mark them as being owned by the same person.

You really need to look at more the just blockchain evidence to mark someone as an alt of someone. You need to use good judgment as well look at a few other things if you are to mark someone like this.

In this case I think it should include some sort of date to make it easier to put the data in perspective.

I don't want to go into this much detail as to how I detect alts, but even including a date may not be reliable, especially if it is public.

I am also concerned that these kinds of lists may make it easy for people to be framed for being an alt of a scammer (similar to how question2 framed NDNHC). Someone could avoid detection of their actual alts for some period of time, then make it appear as if they are an alt of someone who is not a scammer, then once people notice that they "are" an alt of someone they pull a scam attempt.

mexxer-2

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Quote from: shorena on October 15, 2015, 07:49:59 AM

In this case I think it should include some sort of date to make it easier to put the data in perspective.

Although anyone can estimate the date by having a look at the proof along with it, neverthless I will add a date section for it.

shorena

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Quote from: Quickseller on October 15, 2015, 07:28:01 AM

Quote from: shorena on October 15, 2015, 07:19:04 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 15, 2015, 06:48:00 AM

-snip-
Added even the owner admits that they are indeed his alts.

So did I. I didnt know this is a scam list Wink

What might become a problem is that the list might become outdated over time. Esp. those that hold plenty of accounts will probably start to sell them.

What this (and similar) list proves is that at one point in time the same person owned all of these accounts, and may or may not own them today (assuming the blockchain evidence checks out). However at first glance, AFAICT, none of these accounts have scammed so IMO it is not necessary to mark them as being owned by the same person.

You really need to look at more the just blockchain evidence to mark someone as an alt of someone. You need to use good judgment as well look at a few other things if you are to mark someone like this.

In this case I think it should include some sort of date to make it easier to put the data in perspective.

Quickseller

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Quote from: shorena on October 15, 2015, 07:19:04 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 15, 2015, 06:48:00 AM

-snip-
Added even the owner admits that they are indeed his alts.

So did I. I didnt know this is a scam list Wink

What might become a problem is that the list might become outdated over time. Esp. those that hold plenty of accounts will probably start to sell them.

What this (and similar) list proves is that at one point in time the same person owned all of these accounts, and may or may not own them today (assuming the blockchain evidence checks out). However at first glance, AFAICT, none of these accounts have scammed so IMO it is not necessary to mark them as being owned by the same person.

You really need to look at more the just blockchain evidence to mark someone as an alt of someone. You need to use good judgment as well look at a few other things if you are to mark someone like this.

mexxer-2

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Quote from: shorena on October 15, 2015, 07:19:04 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 15, 2015, 06:48:00 AM

-snip-
Added even the owner admits that they are indeed his alts.

So did I. I didnt know this is a scam list Wink

What might become a problem is that the list might become outdated over time. Esp. those that hold plenty of accounts will probably start to sell them.

1) This is not a scam list, but a usergenerated list of accounts which they think/prove are alts of another person.
2) Nearly every system has its faults, but this may serve as a reference that some accounts are indeed connected.
3) I have removed account of Neotox as he being a account seller can sell those accounts to anyone any time.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 15, 2015, 06:48:00 AM

-snip-
Added even the owner admits that they are indeed his alts.

So did I. I didnt know this is a scam list Wink

What might become a problem is that the list might become outdated over time. Esp. those that hold plenty of accounts will probably start to sell them.

mexxer-2

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Quote from: Shield on October 15, 2015, 03:12:18 AM

Here are some alts of Laosai
Patatas
phibay
Shibashi Dogemoto
mr.coinstrader
=> (More Coming soon)

Tx ID
https://blockchain.info/tx/2c0d76d09ba5ac1f5aa4c0ec4a74dce336c00fbd3ec8b8e43fa43e836e77e5eb
https://blockchain.info/tx/e69c5befb0e8ed3e37c4593cc28a8751739b1925970a4466dadbc5b3a1a77c00

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11849004
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12342356
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12394425
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12337215
https://archive.is/CPy3Z

Added even the owner admits that they are indeed his alts.

Shield

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Here are some alts of Laosai
Patatas
phibay
Shibashi Dogemoto
mr.coinstrader
=> (More Coming soon)

Tx ID
https://blockchain.info/tx/2c0d76d09ba5ac1f5aa4c0ec4a74dce336c00fbd3ec8b8e43fa43e836e77e5eb
https://blockchain.info/tx/e69c5befb0e8ed3e37c4593cc28a8751739b1925970a4466dadbc5b3a1a77c00

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11849004
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12342356
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12394425
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12337215
https://archive.is/CPy3Z

Quickseller

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Quote from: Shield on October 13, 2015, 02:08:04 PM

2. The Last Choice <=> lokos1913a linked tx

http://blockinfo.org/tx/895ea667ed551699a5b07a6353e58bea973b3c556949fda6560461402850af49

address posted here
The Last Choice => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11158784
lokos1913a => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12509776

Quote from: Rollin.io on October 10, 2014, 10:19:30 AM

#Post your Rollin Bitcoin address

Quote from: lokos1913a on September 24, 2015, 07:25:07 AM

https://twitter.com/GDSPDMX

19JUFmKvsAH5Pqg65ZTdm5H1N7rhkntxBo

thank you

Quote from: The Last Choice on April 21, 2015, 07:35:23 PM

https://twitter.com/Btc_Lounge/status/590669028823326720

my account : chooseit
deposit address : 13jNd4rrnYnzQxCu5jgoL5mWmnhKpuivwQ

Unfortunately this does not connect these two accounts. These accounts were participating in a rollin giveaway and they did not control the private keys to these addresses.

From the looks of it the other connections that you made between these accounts were also from the same rollin giveaway which requires participants to use a rollin deposit address.

The evidence provided does not connect these accounts :/

Shield

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Here is my first report (more coming soon Wink

)

lokos1913a
Turing56
Mewtwo
Alvin Fahriza
The Last Choice
toodamntired

first 2 accounts have negative trust and those all accounts are used by same person

Proofs==> (linked transactions)

Main transaction that link others
http://blockinfo.org/tx/ee356c87ceb6cbdcd9413f55993ec5020d07a3beb2ab47cd0a0cac2280c73fa2

1. Mewtwo <=> The Last Choice <=> toodamntired linked tx

http://blockinfo.org/tx/1699a7891d5b15cb44078bfda08c88158cabeda5a72b6d2110f005dcfc8591b5

address posted here
Mewtwo => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11155739
The Last Choice => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11158784
toodamntired => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11164792

2. The Last Choice <=> lokos1913a linked tx

http://blockinfo.org/tx/895ea667ed551699a5b07a6353e58bea973b3c556949fda6560461402850af49

address posted here
The Last Choice => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11158784
lokos1913a => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12509776

3. Turing56 linked tx with others

http://blockinfo.org/tx/0e8eae4c9582c16e996f9e00bfd06127b52a2fed9d5407cfdc8420e4b36f5eac

address in this linked tx 1AiYB5GTCoQhNAXwkwahuGomxjGFkjtmVz is same as main linked tx
http://blockinfo.org/tx/ee356c87ceb6cbdcd9413f55993ec5020d07a3beb2ab47cd0a0cac2280c73fa2

address posted here
Turing56 => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12488228
Turing56 => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12478578

4. Alvin Fahriza linked tx with others

http://blockinfo.org/tx/6fcd8c4eedad3c95424d380a00d332616aef0938f57b0a6155ab4109607c1c1c

address 1KwaGBBM6WpPmJKDJgFmZL8n4rgC73HKuZ linkex with address 1AiYB5GTCoQhNAXwkwahuGomxjGFkjtmVz (from main tx id)
http://blockinfo.org/tx/cbfcd603ae44bc2deb6c1fa4a1da55a27bc5d02fd2399e22f86eea34779e3449

address posted here
Alvin Fahriza => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11868656

mexxer-2

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Quote from: Scam Investigator on October 12, 2015, 12:40:27 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 12, 2015, 12:36:28 PM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 11, 2015, 02:50:33 PM

4) Shorena and his personal alt sho_road_warrior

I am pretty sure the definition of an alt is that they are owned by the same person so it is kinda redundant to say that they are personal alts.

just like your 'personal' sense of morality? Wink

Okay guys quit it, no further discussion about QS and his alts, if you want to prove that BPB is indeed QS's alt, do it in another thread, here I will only be providing alt names and proofs as threads which are more or less accepted by the whole community.

Quote from: Quickseller on October 12, 2015, 12:36:28 PM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 11, 2015, 02:50:33 PM

4) Shorena and his personal alt sho_road_warrior

I am pretty sure the definition of an alt is that they are owned by the same person so it is kinda redundant to say that they are personal alts.

I meant to say that unlike most bought alt accounts, shorena himself has created his alt for use over the "holidays". At any rate edited to clairfy.
Lastly, I do like most of your presented arguments QS but sometime you go too far with them, if this was an issue to you, you could have replied to me via PM and I would have edited the OP accordingly.

RubberToe

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