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Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 07:30:33 AM

Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 02:33:59 AM

What I know for sure is if almost every member of your entourage has been seen in connections with Russians, you just cannot be clean as a whistle. Zero chances. Impossibru.

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Well you are making a claim, yet you refuse to back it up with evidence. This would be quite a convenient cop out for a person with no evidence, but that is not you right? You have all the evidence in the world and presenting it is just beneath you. I mean what kind of heretic asks for evidence anyway right?

Took me 30 minutes.
1. Carter Page ( but admitted that he had worked as an informal adviser to the Russian government.) https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/22/carter-page-acknowledges-working-as-informal-adviser-to-russia-735559
2. George Papadopoulos (A young foreign policy consultant whom President Trump once praised as an “excellent guy” is the first aide in the Trump campaign to plead guilty in the special counsel’s investigation into ties between the president’s associates and the Russian government.) https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/george-papadopoulos-russia-trump.html
3. Michael Flynn (But White House officials said that Mr. Trump was merely acknowledging what had happened the day before: Mr. Flynn’s guilty plea for lying to the F.B.I. about his conversations with Mr. Kislyak.) https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/politics/trump-michael-flynn.html
4. Jeffrey “JD” Gordon (The adviser, Jeffrey “JD” Gordon, said he spoke to Sergey Kislyak at the Republican National Convention in July about Mr Trump’s desire to reset the strategic relationship.) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-adviser-jeffrey-jd-gordon-speak-russia-ambassador-sergey-kislyak-us-relations-isis-a7616436.html
Also let's not forget Jared Kushner and Trump junior.

Color me unimpressed with these "facts." It really sounds like a total stretch to find any and everyone who ever once talked with a Russian or someone that knew a Russian.

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so hard, many measure, literally from the link provided.

Comeys letter literally has nothing to do with the Russia probe, it is in relation to the Clinton email probe. I’m at least pretty sure this is correft.

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Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 02:33:59 AM

What I know for sure is if almost every member of your entourage has been seen in connections with Russians, you just cannot be clean as a whistle. Zero chances. Impossibru.

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Well you are making a claim, yet you refuse to back it up with evidence. This would be quite a convenient cop out for a person with no evidence, but that is not you right? You have all the evidence in the world and presenting it is just beneath you. I mean what kind of heretic asks for evidence anyway right?

Took me 30 minutes.
1. Carter Page ( but admitted that he had worked as an informal adviser to the Russian government.) https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/22/carter-page-acknowledges-working-as-informal-adviser-to-russia-735559
2. George Papadopoulos (A young foreign policy consultant whom President Trump once praised as an “excellent guy” is the first aide in the Trump campaign to plead guilty in the special counsel’s investigation into ties between the president’s associates and the Russian government.) https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/george-papadopoulos-russia-trump.html
3. Michael Flynn (But White House officials said that Mr. Trump was merely acknowledging what had happened the day before: Mr. Flynn’s guilty plea for lying to the F.B.I. about his conversations with Mr. Kislyak.) https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/politics/trump-michael-flynn.html
4. Jeffrey “JD” Gordon (The adviser, Jeffrey “JD” Gordon, said he spoke to Sergey Kislyak at the Republican National Convention in July about Mr Trump’s desire to reset the strategic relationship.) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-adviser-jeffrey-jd-gordon-speak-russia-ambassador-sergey-kislyak-us-relations-isis-a7616436.html
Also let's not forget Jared Kushner and Trump junior.

TECSHARE

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Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 06:15:34 AM

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My entourage? What? I am American born and raised, and you are a loon.

If you read again you'll see that I didn't mean you personally.
Loon isn't the worse word people called me on the Internet.

Yes, I suppose your ambiguous statement was my fault. Really my goal wasn't to say the worst thing.

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Quote from: Sutters Mill on October 22, 2018, 05:07:59 AM

Twitter is a huge worldwide platform where public opinion can be swayed. Why would Russia waste time with their bot armies on a bitcoin forum? Without evidence it's probably not even worth postulating.

You will be surprised but their activity is noticed not only on global services such as Twitter or YT but also on absolutely non-political (but at the same time quite popular) ones. Let's say popular with teens Pikabu.ru which is Russian wannabe-reddit or Lepra.ru.
When you have almost unlimited budget you can cover a huge number of sites. But on the other hand I didn't claim that there are such users here too.

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My entourage? What? I am American born and raised, and you are a loon.

If you read again you'll see that I didn't mean you personally.
Loon isn't the worse word people called me on the Internet.

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Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on October 22, 2018, 03:24:26 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 22, 2018, 02:36:48 AM

Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 02:33:59 AM

Get back to it next year.

So in other words you have zero evidence and this is just a really long, expensive, drawn out, taxpayer funded smear campaign. Thank you.

Are you employed by the hostile foreign nation state entity? Really, you seem like a sycophant when it comes to Russia. Makes me wonder who pays you to spread misinformation and FUD.

The evidence of the investigation is there. The evidence that Trump committed treason is in public. Really, it's about convincing the general public that Trump's guilty, which won't happen until congress flips.

Evidence of an investigation is not evidence of guilt. If the evidence is so public you will have no problem specifying exactly what evidence you have now will you? I am a sycophant for asking you to support your claims with evidence? No one pays me, my payment is demonstrating to the world how delusional you are by simple Socratic method. You know what the public needs to be convinced? Evidence.

Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 03:38:39 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 22, 2018, 02:36:48 AM

Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 02:33:59 AM

Get back to it next year.

So in other words you have zero evidence and this is just a really long, expensive, drawn out, taxpayer funded smear campaign. Thank you.

No pal, in other words I don't find it reasonable ot spend time arguing with you. At least for the moment.
What I know for sure is if almost every member of your entourage has been seen in connections with Russians, you just cannot be clean as a whistle. Zero chances. Impossibru.

Well you are making a claim, yet you refuse to back it up with evidence. This would be quite a convenient cop out for a person with no evidence, but that is not you right? You have all the evidence in the world and presenting it is just beneath you. I mean what kind of heretic asks for evidence anyway right?

My entourage? What? I am American born and raised, and you are a loon.

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Quote from: Sutters Mill on October 22, 2018, 05:07:59 AM

Stuff

Pretty sure that bitcointalk is targeted by more focused attacks. I'm sure they've built a framework to work together to control the misinformation/disinformation campaign here.

Pretty sure it's due to the compromising material that Russia has on Trump.

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Quote from: Waradlain on October 21, 2018, 11:40:55 AM

So I wonder is any kremlinbots being caught here at bitcointalk or nobody cares?

Twitter is a huge worldwide platform where public opinion can be swayed. Why would Russia waste time with their bot armies on a bitcoin forum? Without evidence it's probably not even worth postulating.

Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on October 21, 2018, 02:30:39 PM

IRA in action.

They're here too, not just twitter.

What makes you so sure? Somehow I doubt they're on every message board on the internet. They'll go where they can have the biggest impact and to places where they can influence the masses such as social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook.

Quote from: squatz1 on October 21, 2018, 05:20:16 PM

I don't think that these kremlin bots are rooting for any particular side, it seems as if they're just trying to make the American electorate divided over so many issues

I disagree. I think they will always have an agenda. Clearly they wanted Trump in for whatever reason. Maybe not for anything specific other than being disruptive, but something tells me they did have a specific motive with this last presidential election.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 22, 2018, 02:36:48 AM

Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 02:33:59 AM

Get back to it next year.

So in other words you have zero evidence and this is just a really long, expensive, drawn out, taxpayer funded smear campaign. Thank you.

No pal, in other words I don't find it reasonable ot spend time arguing with you. At least for the moment.
What I know for sure is if almost every member of your entourage has been seen in connections with Russians, you just cannot be clean as a whistle. Zero chances. Impossibru.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 22, 2018, 02:36:48 AM

Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 02:33:59 AM

Get back to it next year.

So in other words you have zero evidence and this is just a really long, expensive, drawn out, taxpayer funded smear campaign. Thank you.

Are you employed by the hostile foreign nation state entity? Really, you seem like a sycophant when it comes to Russia. Makes me wonder who pays you to spread misinformation and FUD.

The evidence of the investigation is there. The evidence that Trump committed treason is in public. Really, it's about convincing the general public that Trump's guilty, which won't happen until congress flips.

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Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 02:33:59 AM

Get back to it next year.

So in other words you have zero evidence and this is just a really long, expensive, drawn out, taxpayer funded smear campaign. Thank you.

Waradlain

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Get back to it next year.

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Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 01:34:17 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 22, 2018, 12:39:02 AM

Trump has already been investigated and explicitly cleared, but you keep imagineering!

You're probably already live in 2019 since, as far as I know, the investigation is currently not completed and it's too early to draw any conclusions. If we don't consider Congress investigation.

President Donald Trump's legal team is preparing a report that will contain sections rebutting a series of potential conclusions special counsel Robert Mueller could reach in his eventual findings, Rudy Giuliani tells CNN.
This is not how you act if don't feel guilty eh?

Nope. it is real simple. Investigations are based on evidence. Even in the most high level investigations 100% of the actual evidence does not remain behind closed doors. If there was SOMETHING, ANYTHING at all to grasp on to it would have been paraded around the media years ago. This whole concept that there is no evidence to present because the investigation is not over is just your personal suspended belief and you demanding the rest of the world share it. Furthermore they have already announced Trump himself is not even under investigation at this point.

There is no evidence. You have none.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 22, 2018, 12:39:02 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 11:51:19 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 21, 2018, 11:07:41 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 10:29:50 PM

Whatever it takes for you to continue the delusion that Trump was not legally voted in.

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 10:29:50 PM

Guess we will start to find out in Jan when the Dem's take control of the house!!

Yes, because nearly 3 years of investigating isn't enough to produce any actual evidence, including about a year under Obama's rule. What you mean is if your delusions of Democrats retaking control materialize magically, then you can manufacture all the evidence you want.

Patience Grasshopper! Focus on the Mueller investigation because that's the special investigation into the 2016 election specifically. The Mueller investigation isn't even a year and a half old. Watergate took 2 years to unfold and Whitewater took more than 4 years. Neither of those two involved a hostile nation which would likely make it harder to gather evidence...

Dems are picking up 35 seats in the house dude, like it or not!!! Even if they don't get 35 they will take control of the house! The investigations are coming for Trump and no matter how much you and he may not like it that isn't going to stop what's coming.

We're all going to find out the entire Trump campaign was balls deep with Russia, it's gonna be so fun to watch!

There is no way Trump and his kids are smart enough to have refused the Russians help when they offered it, nor are any of them smart enough to be able to cover it up in a way that Mueller didn't figure out in his first day on the job!!!

Remember kids the fun starts in Jan 2019 and should provide major entertainment all year long! The pussy grabbing unnamed co-conspirator is going to have much more of his dirty laundry aired!

Trump has already been investigated and explicitly cleared, but you keep imagineering!

You're probably already live in 2019 since, as far as I know, the investigation is currently not completed and it's too early to draw any conclusions. If we don't consider Congress investigation.

President Donald Trump's legal team is preparing a report that will contain sections rebutting a series of potential conclusions special counsel Robert Mueller could reach in his eventual findings, Rudy Giuliani tells CNN.
This is not how you act if don't feel guilty eh?

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 11:51:19 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 21, 2018, 11:07:41 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 10:29:50 PM

Whatever it takes for you to continue the delusion that Trump was not legally voted in.

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 10:29:50 PM

Guess we will start to find out in Jan when the Dem's take control of the house!!

Yes, because nearly 3 years of investigating isn't enough to produce any actual evidence, including about a year under Obama's rule. What you mean is if your delusions of Democrats retaking control materialize magically, then you can manufacture all the evidence you want.

Patience Grasshopper! Focus on the Mueller investigation because that's the special investigation into the 2016 election specifically. The Mueller investigation isn't even a year and a half old. Watergate took 2 years to unfold and Whitewater took more than 4 years. Neither of those two involved a hostile nation which would likely make it harder to gather evidence...

Dems are picking up 35 seats in the house dude, like it or not!!! Even if they don't get 35 they will take control of the house! The investigations are coming for Trump and no matter how much you and he may not like it that isn't going to stop what's coming.

We're all going to find out the entire Trump campaign was balls deep with Russia, it's gonna be so fun to watch!

There is no way Trump and his kids are smart enough to have refused the Russians help when they offered it, nor are any of them smart enough to be able to cover it up in a way that Mueller didn't figure out in his first day on the job!!!

Remember kids the fun starts in Jan 2019 and should provide major entertainment all year long! The pussy grabbing unnamed co-conspirator is going to have much more of his dirty laundry aired!

Why should I be patient? Why don't you simply back up your premise with facts? Oh right, there are none, this is all just a fabrication designed to distract from their own corruption.

lol "hostile nation". Everyone knows who is hostile, except for you and your delusional brethren constantly trying to reassure each other of your collective hallucination.

Trump has already been investigated and explicitly cleared, but you keep imagineering!

You seem rather confident. You wanna put some money on this?

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 21, 2018, 11:07:41 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 10:29:50 PM

Whatever it takes for you to continue the delusion that Trump was not legally voted in.

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 10:29:50 PM

Guess we will start to find out in Jan when the Dem's take control of the house!!

Yes, because nearly 3 years of investigating isn't enough to produce any actual evidence, including about a year under Obama's rule. What you mean is if your delusions of Democrats retaking control materialize magically, then you can manufacture all the evidence you want.

Patience Grasshopper! Focus on the Mueller investigation because that's the special investigation into the 2016 election specifically. The Mueller investigation isn't even a year and a half old. Watergate took 2 years to unfold and Whitewater took more than 4 years. Neither of those two involved a hostile nation which would likely make it harder to gather evidence...

Dems are picking up 35 seats in the house dude, like it or not!!! Even if they don't get 35 they will take control of the house! The investigations are coming for Trump and no matter how much you and he may not like it that isn't going to stop what's coming.

We're all going to find out the entire Trump campaign was balls deep with Russia, it's gonna be so fun to watch!

There is no way Trump and his kids are smart enough to have refused the Russians help when they offered it, nor are any of them smart enough to be able to cover it up in a way that Mueller didn't figure out in his first day on the job!!!

Remember kids the fun starts in Jan 2019 and should provide major entertainment all year long! The pussy grabbing unnamed co-conspirator is going to have much more of his dirty laundry aired!

TECSHARE

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"Whatever it takes for you to continue the delusion that Trump was not legally voted in."

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 10:29:50 PM

Guess we will start to find out in Jan when the Dem's take control of the house!!

Yes, because nearly 3 years of investigating isn't enough to produce any actual evidence, including about a year under Obama's rule. What you mean is if your delusions of Democrats retaking control materialize magically, then you can manufacture all the evidence you want.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 21, 2018, 09:32:20 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 05:40:29 PM

Quote from: squatz1 on October 21, 2018, 05:20:16 PM

I don't think that these kremlin bots are rooting for any particular side,
It's a crazy world out there, the Russians are succeeding.

Dude read the 38 page indictment of the GRU national that had a 35 million USD budget to attack the left. The attack is completely targeted at getting the right pissed off at the left. If you think a dictator paying for propaganda is spending it on a fair attack on both sides you're crazy bro, they have a real interest in having as hard right a leader as possible as POTUS.

But you're 100% right it is working and has been since at least 2016!

To the OP I don't think any of the IRA bots are actually here, not enough bang for their buck.

Whatever it takes for you to continue the delusion that Trump was not legally voted in.

Guess we will start to find out in Jan when the Dem's take control of the house!!

TECSHARE

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 21, 2018, 05:40:29 PM

Quote from: squatz1 on October 21, 2018, 05:20:16 PM

I don't think that these kremlin bots are rooting for any particular side,
It's a crazy world out there, the Russians are succeeding.

Dude read the 38 page indictment of the GRU national that had a 35 million USD budget to attack the left. The attack is completely targeted at getting the right pissed off at the left. If you think a dictator paying for propaganda is spending it on a fair attack on both sides you're crazy bro, they have a real interest in having as hard right a leader as possible as POTUS.

But you're 100% right it is working and has been since at least 2016!

To the OP I don't think any of the IRA bots are actually here, not enough bang for their buck.

Whatever it takes for you to continue the delusion that Trump was not legally voted in.

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Quote from: squatz1 on October 21, 2018, 06:34:53 PM

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Dude read the 38 page indictment of the GRU national that had a 35 million USD budget to attack the left. The attack is completely targeted at getting the right pissed off at the left. If you think a dictator paying for propaganda is spending it on a fair attack on both sides you're crazy bro, they have a real interest in having as hard right a leader as possible as POTUS.

But you're 100% right it is working and has been since at least 2016!

I'm not saying it's being done equally, I'm saying that the goal is to create chaos -- not to support one candidate or another.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/02/16/deputy-ag-rosenstein-no-evidence-election-results-were-impacted.html - Check this out.

I'll give you at least this one, https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-did-russian-interference-affect-the-2016-election/

It's hard to measure if anything.

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Even there, there’s some ambiguity — but considering that Clinton essentially lost the election by only 0.8 percentage points (Trump’s margin of victory in the tipping-point state, Wisconsin) and that the Comey letter coincided with a polling shift of about 3 points toward Trump, we can be reasonably confident that it was enough to make the difference.

so hard, many measure, literally from the link provided.

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