Topic: KRUNIAC Scam ASIC 1 share - page 12. (Read 21681 times)

I sent the payment from MtGox, so I can't sign the message...

Here are screenshots of the conversations with Kruniac and of the MtGox payment to his address:
http://imgur.com/a/P4Z5K

This is the TxID: https://blockchain.info/tx/fcd98fc1669496ee8385ae729bf920d37ea2145c6c55c96412c49e2ce65cbee7
And his address where the 2.45 BTC went to: https://blockchain.info/de/address/19qxEXvt22gSfrXKj3TPPAF2112Rs81DJ4

Can I provide anything else?

Thank you. This is very useful information.

I spoke with the Sheriffs dept. in the County where he lives.  This is very much illegal and is considered a felony if the sum of the counts total more than $1000 US.

To pursue this through normal criminal channels, each claimant has to submit a police report in the jurisdiction in which they live. Assuming 10 claimants, that will be 10 counts of theft.  This is unfortunate as I don't see enough of us actually following through with filing a police report.

The Maryland PD will be contacted by each of the 10 respective police departments and will add to the charges a larger more serious charge (I can't remember what he called it).

I think we have ample evidence, including concrete verification via chat log IP address.  Once the ISP has been subpoena'd there won't be a question as to the identity of the thief.

The Maryland PD already had him in their system.  The officer I spoke to didn't mention his previous charges, but he did verify that the address etc. that I provided was correct.
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The other option is to file a complaint with the IC3 (https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx)  This deparment works in conjunction with the FBI and has the ability to lump all of the instances of theft together across jurisdictional boundaries.

My personal feeling is that each victim of this crime should file BOTH with local police and with the IC3.

Here is my claim on the ASICMiner share purchased with address 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK

Message:
ryanAC is the owner of 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK
I sent 1.8btc for Kruniac ASICMiner share on 06.15.2013 to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
txid 43a991e1073d5f81bac777ab11fb9085fe7138a031c8f7b0cd5dd748f1ad7e79

Sig:
IKhpITgB/hKFnDm7cnmkSqf2v9f0I2ECazOe0zz459BnkgGSIU0hX192s7pLXvjz+tmLcZvva9nsYot7/SFDI64=






And, as an added bonus, here are the signed message for the terms of our deal...

--------MESSAGE--------
When the payment of 1.8 BTC is received by the address of : 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz

A transfer request will be sent to Friedcat for one (1) ASICMiner direct share.

The request will be made on behalf of the user ryanAC, controlling the address: 14WzWD9GP2Zq93h935JkhqY3dK91UtiyDv
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Sig: HyD7yFtPR8KeqvzJZ6Hzd6M6yEZ576nfl1lRcNwZ8Ev0/QqrB/HCgovoe4rVgkG8nWFkp9lVuwJi9IRewsxPIM4=


...and then the transfer request...
--------MESSAGE--------
My username is Kruniac (As you can see), controlling Bitcoin address: 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz
I received one (1) share of ASICMiner via an auction: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2364193


I'd like to transfer ownership of my ASICMiner share to:

User: ryanAC
Address: 14WzWD9GP2Zq93h935JkhqY3dK91UtiyDv
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Signature:H2/88WCvcOR1z6q2u9NxJz1sAN1iE0Q80HAWdrvVM8zNsO0mQJzZVE5iRQ+VK7A9bTHDE9o+bT99ORJHK/0yRXE=

First off all this is probably a civil case not a criminal case.  Call a Police Station in MD.

Then I guess you could try to file a small claim in the state of CA or MD.

Finally, I have yet to hear of single case of where a bitcoin scammer was charge let alone convicted of scamming either civilly or criminally (although that may be changing).

See.
My Bitcoin
Bitfloor
bitcoin.eu
Bitcoinica.com
Bitcoin Savings and Trust
GLBSE
etc.
etc.
etc.

Don't be so sure it's not illegal, because there is no precedent that shows that bitcoin is not valid consideration in contract law. What is your evidence that it's not illegal?

Its not illegal.

ill help ya get it all back.

thanks to all, I sent PM to BCB, BigBitz and jwest411.

Hi guys, thanks for this. It was great waking up to this glory.

Time to get this guy.

Is my signature sufficient, or are you saying you would like further screenshots?

I unfortunately received a message from him;


However, I was one of the lucky ones who didn't send any money to him, I was close though, I really wanted that share.

So I guess the moral of the story is not to trust people through PMs and if there is a large enough amount at stake that you would prefer not to risk, use escrow services provided.

Hope all of you guys get sorted out, big up to all those who are funding the money back, you guys are troopers and the type of people who keep this community together as a whole.

If I had anything to give, I would, but alas.

If I can be any help to anyone, please message me!

Thanks, Matt.

Keep posting information and any screenshots, TXIDs and PMs etc.

I will ask JohnK and BCB to review and between us we will decide if the proof is good enough to return any funds.

Wow this is an amazing turn of events.  I still feel that we should pursue prosecution.  Once the list of victims is compiled we should all be named on the complaint (well, those that want to be) so that the total value of the heist is large enough for the local police to take action.

Transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6a4994b257f2881095be0d2162e757485ca87ecbd10d6dd74a312ea408f64fcd

Address:
1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK

Message:
dhenson is the owner of 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXdjvC4kYK  Thank you for returning my funds!!!

Signature:
G1ghiheVYg5272OL6QVuE1ffoLNGM+3ycHZggM79IcrWLP+NWpStZKF1vg9oepvGNKJa61GaDUaBAboArNrEEag=

Thank You!

I sent from localbitcoins which does not support signing, but here is a screenshot from my wallet transactions on there which matches up with the PM he sent shown earlier: http://i.imgur.com/1oPAQAF.png

So having had a quick discussion with BCB I think what I will do is return the 16.4BTC to you people who were scammed.

I could 11 potentially scam transactions for ASICMiner shares, I believe one was fulfilled so that leaves 10?

To adjust for fairness I believe 1.6BTC to be returned to each of you who can prove the address/transactions etc is good?

There may be a possiblity of recovering your funds.

Please post a signed message in this thread proving your owner ship of the address you used to send Kruniac the funds.

I bought 16.4BTC from him some nights ago. I paid using International Wire.

I have cancelled this payment and he will not get any money from me until this situation is resolved.

Wow, what a worthless piece of shit, this Garrott Gardner.

Always remember rule #0:
Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER. There are plenty of veteran members to do business with and ALWAYS use escrow. If you're a newbie you're doing business with another newbie, there's a 100% chance that you will get scammed (or you're a scammer yourself).

Without claiming completeness or claiming that all transactions mentioned here are scam.
Please send messages, if you revail and proof ownership of one of those addresses.

Thanks

date	address	proving owner	amount of BTC
2013-06-05 23:18:17	19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui		1.8
2013-06-05 18:53:58	14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK		2.1
2013-06-06 00:55:18	126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D		2.2
2013-06-06 02:20:30	19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq		2.2
2013-06-06 03:53:31			2.29663866
2013-06-06 08:49:10			2.2
2013-06-06 20:49:21	18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK		2.2
2013-06-07 01:34:36	1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5		2.45
2013-06-07 03:22:56	1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD		2.2
2013-06-07 06:03:00	1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK		2.4
2013-06-07 09:23:58	1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd	wo0x	2.35

Source: http://blockchain.info/address/14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz