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April 03, 2023, 02:10:09 AM
 
So KYC is only harm and an extra trouble for any person.  
This is how I think.
Not all gamblers feel at a loss and get into trouble regarding a KYC.
There are some gamblers who actually don't mind and they easily provide KYC to the casinos they use because they believe the personal data that has been provided will not be misused.
There are also gamblers who don't bother looking for casinos without KYC that are trusted and can be relied upon, so they choose the most popular casinos with KYC to make it easier and faster to use casinos without having to think about it and reset before using the casino.
Maybe you can come to such a conclusion because you yourself don't like KYC and mind if the casino knows personal data because you want to gamble anonymously in a crypto casino.

Well, those people who blindly trust all the gambling sites with their KC data are doing a big mistake. Since their personal data have never been misused before, they do not know the consequences of it. I am not saying that anything bad may happen with them, but since they provide their KYC data to both reputed and non-reputed gambling sites, they are at high risk.

Will there be anyone who can say that his KYC data is not important and he can afford his data to be used in the black market? I guess no one will like this to happen.
You mean that they are gamblers who trust casinos that have KYC is a big mistake, is that right what you mean?
As long as you know, their friends are gamblers who trust and don't mind casinos with KYC, because they already trust and can trust the casino, that their personal identification data will not be misused.
Every gambler is free to make their own choices whether they want to use a non-KYC casino or a casino with KYC, that is their choice. In a matter like this, we cannot prohibit or tell them to have choices like us, and what we need to convey is only to suggest that they can be more be careful when choosing a casino.
In my opinion, when KYC is given to a big and trusted casino, it is impossible if the KYC data is sold on the black market because gamblers don't like KYC because they want to be in the gambling industry anonymously.
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April 02, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
Here, there's a lot of talks about KYC but I think that I'll just drop what the representative said about KYC matter if you ever win big and how they're verifying the age of their players.

The thread has been covered with new pages so I think others haven't seen it but they've got good answers from it and I guess everyone needs to see it.

Please find below the answers to some of the common questions:

1) If a player wins big, will the casino ask for KYC ?
Ans: Since Kryptogamers is primarily a non-custodial casino on Hive blockchain (HIVE offers free and instant transactions), all player's non-custodial winnings are transferred instantly and free of cost to the player's Hive wallet without requiring any kind of KYC whatsoever. It is not possible for us to ever ask for KYC for the non-custodial section because we are not in control of your Hive blockchain account and therefore cannot suspend or do anything about it.

2) Why is proof of age required if casino does not require KYC ?
Ans: Apart from the non-custodial section, we also have a custodial section of games for custodial wallet players who prefer better user experience and instant gameplays as each non-custodial game-result takes approx 3 seconds (which is Hive block time) while custodial game results are instant (<1 second). However, if you are playing custodial games, the proof-of-age and other documents maybe required only if the law enforcement requests come in for your specific account. Uptill now (4+ years), we have received only 1 request to suspend a custodial Hive account and that person had 0 balance in his wallet. Having said that, we are a privacy friendly casino since 4+ years and have never asked for KYC nor do we intend to ask for KYC unless absolutely required by law.

Hope this answers your major questions. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions.
this is a definite answer and I think there is no need to debate any issues related to KYC.
to be honest for this Kryptogame I can understand that the team might ask for KYC if it is really needed such as law enforcement is investigating a customer account and asked for KYC to verify the gambler's age.
and gamblers should also understand this situation because this has become part of the casino regulations which cannot be contested.
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April 02, 2023, 09:08:11 PM
We don't have a choice with KYC when it comes to both trusted and non trusted new casinos. In both cases ,the risks are there as even in an trusted casino the hacker can get all the KYC data even though in most cases hackers are more interest to get money rather than the data.

Data = money. That's why every company is keen on harvesting user data. Even illegally attained data gets sold in dark web for thousands.

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We need to tell ourselves, that if we are to gamble, providing the KYC data is a must and there are no options to avoid it.

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April 02, 2023, 06:47:57 PM
Here, there's a lot of talks about KYC but I think that I'll just drop what the representative said about KYC matter if you ever win big and how they're verifying the age of their players.

The thread has been covered with new pages so I think others haven't seen it but they've got good answers from it and I guess everyone needs to see it.

Please find below the answers to some of the common questions:

1) If a player wins big, will the casino ask for KYC ?
Ans: Since Kryptogamers is primarily a non-custodial casino on Hive blockchain (HIVE offers free and instant transactions), all player's non-custodial winnings are transferred instantly and free of cost to the player's Hive wallet without requiring any kind of KYC whatsoever. It is not possible for us to ever ask for KYC for the non-custodial section because we are not in control of your Hive blockchain account and therefore cannot suspend or do anything about it.

2) Why is proof of age required if casino does not require KYC ?
Ans: Apart from the non-custodial section, we also have a custodial section of games for custodial wallet players who prefer better user experience and instant gameplays as each non-custodial game-result takes approx 3 seconds (which is Hive block time) while custodial game results are instant (<1 second). However, if you are playing custodial games, the proof-of-age and other documents maybe required only if the law enforcement requests come in for your specific account. Uptill now (4+ years), we have received only 1 request to suspend a custodial Hive account and that person had 0 balance in his wallet. Having said that, we are a privacy friendly casino since 4+ years and have never asked for KYC nor do we intend to ask for KYC unless absolutely required by law.

Hope this answers your major questions. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions.
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April 02, 2023, 06:40:32 PM
Well, those people who blindly trust all the gambling sites with their KC data are doing a big mistake. Since their personal data have never been misused before, they do not know the consequences of it. I am not saying that anything bad may happen with them, but since they provide their KYC data to both reputed and non-reputed gambling sites, they are at high risk.

Will there be anyone who can say that his KYC data is not important and he can afford his data to be used in the black market? I guess no one will like this to happen.
It's not a mistake to give KYC to a trusted gambling site but there is still a risk because they can get hacked and the KYC will be stolen by the hackers. Your second sentence is true. I was careless enough about my KYC before but after researching more about it, I now understand the dangers that can happen to me once my KYC is compromised.

Now I am more careful and very picky if I will do a KYC or not. I just realized that the casino offered by the OP can also work as on chain. This is a good news for those who are looking for this type of betting. Now we know that not all of them have extinct. The only downside is that this casino only accept a few "not so known 'alts or tokens. It will be great if they can add more coins.

We don't have a choice with KYC when it comes to both trusted and non trusted new casinos. In both cases ,the risks are there as even in an trusted casino the hacker can get all the KYC data even though in most cases hackers are more interest to get money rather than the data.

If we keep on thinking that we are doing KYC and our data may be leaked and not safe we will not enjoy gambling and will not attain peace of mind. We need to tell ourselves, that if we are to gamble, providing the KYC data is a must and there are no options to avoid it.
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April 01, 2023, 08:57:12 AM
~snip~

I do think there has to be some sort of balance whenever you decide to submit your KYC documents in a given gambling website.

Of course, if a gambling website is relatively new on the market and it had no further advertisements, then think twice before submitting any KYC documents as you are susceptible for identity theft. But if you are gambling in a famous gambling website and it requires you to submit such documents, then feel free to do so due to the security that they have.

Even if a gambling website offers better bonuses and rewards, if their security fails in some point then you would suffer in the long-term with your identity and information being compromised.
Is KYC necessary or optional? That is the question worth a million dollars. Perhaps not a million, but plenty to make a difference

It's not always a safe bet to share your KYC information with an online casino. Avoid the underground web at all costs. On the other hand, you're looking for a safe and reliable gaming platform to take use of all its features

Now, the question is, "What should you do?" Just apply some basic logic. Do not provide your Know Your Customer (KYC) details to an untrustworthy gaming website. However, you can rest certain that your personal information is safe in the hands of a well-known and trustworthy website
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April 01, 2023, 07:28:12 AM
Well, those people who blindly trust all the gambling sites with their KC data are doing a big mistake. Since their personal data have never been misused before, they do not know the consequences of it. I am not saying that anything bad may happen with them, but since they provide their KYC data to both reputed and non-reputed gambling sites, they are at high risk.

Will there be anyone who can say that his KYC data is not important and he can afford his data to be used in the black market? I guess no one will like this to happen.
It's not a mistake to give KYC to a trusted gambling site but there is still a risk because they can get hacked and the KYC will be stolen by the hackers. Your second sentence is true. I was careless enough about my KYC before but after researching more about it, I now understand the dangers that can happen to me once my KYC is compromised.

Now I am more careful and very picky if I will do a KYC or not. I just realized that the casino offered by the OP can also work as on chain. This is a good news for those who are looking for this type of betting. Now we know that not all of them have extinct. The only downside is that this casino only accept a few "not so known 'alts or tokens. It will be great if they can add more coins.
That is why we must always be careful in providing personal data to any site, not just gambling sites, because we will not know whether the site can really protect the customer's personal data that has been given to them or whether their site can be penetrated by hackers so that hackers will also steal the data. But I still believe that there are still casinos that can protect these data properly even though there will be hackers trying to penetrate the site's security system. Apart from that, we still have casinos that don't implement KYC too strictly, so we are still free to play at these casinos without doing KYC. But we also have to follow their rules because usually, KYC will be applied to members who make deposits with large amounts of money or to new members who directly deposit large amounts of funds.
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April 01, 2023, 05:40:19 AM
Well, those people who blindly trust all the gambling sites with their KC data are doing a big mistake. Since their personal data have never been misused before, they do not know the consequences of it. I am not saying that anything bad may happen with them, but since they provide their KYC data to both reputed and non-reputed gambling sites, they are at high risk.

Will there be anyone who can say that his KYC data is not important and he can afford his data to be used in the black market? I guess no one will like this to happen.
It's not a mistake to give KYC to a trusted gambling site but there is still a risk because they can get hacked and the KYC will be stolen by the hackers. Your second sentence is true. I was careless enough about my KYC before but after researching more about it, I now understand the dangers that can happen to me once my KYC is compromised.

Now I am more careful and very picky if I will do a KYC or not. I just realized that the casino offered by the OP can also work as on chain. This is a good news for those who are looking for this type of betting. Now we know that not all of them have extinct. The only downside is that this casino only accept a few "not so known 'alts or tokens. It will be great if they can add more coins.
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March 30, 2023, 06:54:25 PM
 
So KYC is only harm and an extra trouble for any person.  
This is how I think.
Not all gamblers feel at a loss and get into trouble regarding a KYC.
There are some gamblers who actually don't mind and they easily provide KYC to the casinos they use because they believe the personal data that has been provided will not be misused.
There are also gamblers who don't bother looking for casinos without KYC that are trusted and can be relied upon, so they choose the most popular casinos with KYC to make it easier and faster to use casinos without having to think about it and reset before using the casino.
Maybe you can come to such a conclusion because you yourself don't like KYC and mind if the casino knows personal data because you want to gamble anonymously in a crypto casino.

Well, those people who blindly trust all the gambling sites with their KC data are doing a big mistake. Since their personal data have never been misused before, they do not know the consequences of it. I am not saying that anything bad may happen with them, but since they provide their KYC data to both reputed and non-reputed gambling sites, they are at high risk.

Will there be anyone who can say that his KYC data is not important and he can afford his data to be used in the black market? I guess no one will like this to happen.

I do think there has to be some sort of balance whenever you decide to submit your KYC documents in a given gambling website.

Of course, if a gambling website is relatively new on the market and it had no further advertisements, then think twice before submitting any KYC documents as you are susceptible for identity theft. But if you are gambling in a famous gambling website and it requires you to submit such documents, then feel free to do so due to the security that they have.

Even if a gambling website offers better bonuses and rewards, if their security fails in some point then you would suffer in the long-term with your identity and information being compromised.
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March 30, 2023, 06:28:43 PM
 
So KYC is only harm and an extra trouble for any person.  
This is how I think.
Not all gamblers feel at a loss and get into trouble regarding a KYC.
There are some gamblers who actually don't mind and they easily provide KYC to the casinos they use because they believe the personal data that has been provided will not be misused.
There are also gamblers who don't bother looking for casinos without KYC that are trusted and can be relied upon, so they choose the most popular casinos with KYC to make it easier and faster to use casinos without having to think about it and reset before using the casino.
Maybe you can come to such a conclusion because you yourself don't like KYC and mind if the casino knows personal data because you want to gamble anonymously in a crypto casino.

Well, those people who blindly trust all the gambling sites with their KC data are doing a big mistake. Since their personal data have never been misused before, they do not know the consequences of it. I am not saying that anything bad may happen with them, but since they provide their KYC data to both reputed and non-reputed gambling sites, they are at high risk.

Will there be anyone who can say that his KYC data is not important and he can afford his data to be used in the black market? I guess no one will like this to happen.
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March 30, 2023, 06:24:10 PM
 
So KYC is only harm and an extra trouble for any person. 
This is how I think.
Not all gamblers feel at a loss and get into trouble regarding a KYC.
There are some gamblers who actually don't mind and they easily provide KYC to the casinos they use because they believe the personal data that has been provided will not be misused.
There are also gamblers who don't bother looking for casinos without KYC that are trusted and can be relied upon, so they choose the most popular casinos with KYC to make it easier and faster to use casinos without having to think about it and reset before using the casino.
Maybe you can come to such a conclusion because you yourself don't like KYC and mind if the casino knows personal data because you want to gamble anonymously in a crypto casino.

The only peace of mind I have is that When my data is leaked in a casino, I don't think I'm in Danger, Because the thief's trip to my house would be much more expensive and as soon as he arrived, who knows if the same system would take care of Leaving it bad, and apart from the money that I have to lose is not much, it is actually insignificant if I compare it with the economy of Other players, this may not be an excuse to Give my data in Kyc for a site, but still I am not I agree , and not because I think of myself, I know that there are players who are whales and that if they can compromise their safety and that is something that I Would not like, in fact, if most people do well, at least I am happy.
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March 27, 2023, 09:03:05 PM
Imagine if we cooked up a wicked solution like a global KYC system for all the casinos to adopt! Picture it like a passport to ride the casino wave, no matter where you're at. To crank up the fun factor, we could have a wild KYC photo booth for your one-of-a-kind picture to use as your all-access KYC pass. That'd be straight fire, right?!

I'd imagine a service which encrypts kyc data of user and user can use this data on various casinos in some form which proves his unique identity without exposing the actual data. Such system would help both the privacy conscious individuals and casino platforms.

Only insensitive and selfish people that don't mean well for the society would kick against KYC.

Or may be they are just privacy conscious.
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March 27, 2023, 01:44:20 AM
 
So KYC is only harm and an extra trouble for any person. 
This is how I think.
Not all gamblers feel at a loss and get into trouble regarding a KYC.
There are some gamblers who actually don't mind and they easily provide KYC to the casinos they use because they believe the personal data that has been provided will not be misused.
There are also gamblers who don't bother looking for casinos without KYC that are trusted and can be relied upon, so they choose the most popular casinos with KYC to make it easier and faster to use casinos without having to think about it and reset before using the casino.
Maybe you can come to such a conclusion because you yourself don't like KYC and mind if the casino knows personal data because you want to gamble anonymously in a crypto casino.

KYC is a problem for those who use multiple casino platforms, there are difficulties filling in all the data. While those using one platform or only a few, can e en be in favor of KYC service, since it guarantees a bit more security at least in fiat money sector. That's why, I think, in some time both KYC and non-KYC algorithms will be offered by most platforms at the same time, so that it will balance the demands in both groups of gamblers.
Wouldn't it be fine if gamblers gave KYC to several different casinos that gamblers used?
But if the gambler has more than one account at one casino then that will make it difficult for the gambler to provide KYC because it is impossible for the gambler to provide the same personal identity for more than one account at one casino.
If the casino that the gambler uses is different, in my opinion, it is legal for the gambler to give KYC to all the casinos that are used. Obviously many KYC and non KYC algorithms are offered by all existing casinos because gamblers always have different choices so they can determine which casino to use.
Gamblers gotta hit with that KYC info to keep the game legit and block any shady moves. Philosophically speaking, we should aim for that crystal-clear transparency and realness, particularly when the stakes are high. But, I get how rocking multiple accounts at one casino might make the KYC game a bit trickier.

Imagine if we cooked up a wicked solution like a global KYC system for all the casinos to adopt! Picture it like a passport to ride the casino wave, no matter where you're at. To crank up the fun factor, we could have a wild KYC photo booth for your one-of-a-kind picture to use as your all-access KYC pass. That'd be straight fire, right?!
Unless the gambler uses all personal identity data from his family, maybe the gambler has multiple accounts in one casino with all KYC verification.
But this rarely happens because gamblers prefer non-KYC casinos, making it easier for gamblers to have multiple accounts in one casino without having to think about the KYC that is enforced.
It is not easy to set up a global KYC system and use fake data or photos because if one day a serious problem occurs it will be more difficult.
Here I am talking for the long term, friends, so whatever you do must be carefully calculated.
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March 26, 2023, 09:51:45 AM
KYC in crypto casinos is still the pros and cons to date. Indeed, the natural law of crypto is anonymous or it is not clear who owns it, but if I look at some of the cases that have occurred, I consider all of these problems.
indeed casinos shouldn't require KYC for their customers considering crypto is so anonymous. but if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, how can the casino detect customers using money laundering?
on the other hand licensed casinos already have agreements with licensing companies to require KYC from every customer.
It's true that the issue has pros and cons, but you got it wrong by saying casinos must not ask for KYC due to the anonymity of crypto. First, it's not all cryptos transactions that are anonymous, and casinos are companies, not crypto itself, they are only using the crypto as a payment system.

In a sane world, all their activities must be accounted for as a company to avoid illicit flows, so that argument is invalid. Crypto will always act as online money, but the activities of those using it as a payment system for deposit and withdrawal should be regulated.
maybe you misunderstood what I said.

I did say that casinos shouldn't ask their customers for KYC, but after that I told the truth that casinos ask for KYC based on agreements with licensing companies to analyze gamblers who use money laundering funds to gamble in casinos.

maybe this seems off topic but to clarify what i'm saying. that licensed casinos require casinos to use KYC to prevent cases of money laundering deposited in certain casinos and especially in curacao licensed casinos.

see below :
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Enhanced monitoring and anti-money laundering controls.
source

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61977707

maybe from what i quoted you know what i mean.
but I don't mean to out off topic just to clarify my point.
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March 26, 2023, 08:45:32 AM
Of course, no website is completely immune from hacking, am only disappointed that you guys are taking this as an excuse instead of looking elsewhere to the benefits of KYC.

If a website is new, my dear, you are talking 50/50 chance with them if they are without KYC. Because without it, it means they are not regulated. But you have higher rest of mind if they are truly regulated.
Excuse? Nonsense. 50/50 chance without KYC? More nonsense. I already specifically mentioned in my previous post that I have been gambling at several popular sites without providing KYC at any stage.

Also, no KYC requirement and features such as great offers, great customer support etc are what truly make crypto gambling sites popular. Think!
True,  KYC requirement doesn't guaranteed any form of regulation of any online casinos, there is no way a gambling platform will prove to users that they are regulated, many scam projects have stolen users KYC information and they don't know it, these criminals have other use for peoples identity.

At first, I always thought that KYC is the answer, the answer to fraud and other bullshits from platforms, later I found out that KYC requirement could be an idea to scare some people off after they win some money or they have other use for the information they acquired from people. 

Kyc can disguise himself in many ways, but obviously this came from a requirement of governments or government entities and it is something that he does not like to walk, however we as players sometimes understand that not even Casinio himself is to blame for things how the kyc is implemented, the licenses, the permits, everything requires documentation, and sometimes the jkyc disguises it by saying that it is a security measure so that at the time of a possible hack they can recover the person's funds, that is something that I don't conceive, because in crypto there should never be kyc, that goes against the natural laws of crypto.
This a typical example of why I believe people don't know the reason for KYC as I've read many kicking against it simply because they lie it could protect them from hacking. Who is saying KYC will protect anyone from hacking? it's your cyber security that will do that for you. What KYC does is to be sure that the person holding the account is what he says he is. And this is in turn creating a better society for us to the advantage of the gambler, the company and the government for security and accountability.

Only insensitive and selfish people that don't mean well for the society would kick against KYC.

Of course, no website is completely immune from hacking, am only disappointed that you guys are taking this as an excuse instead of looking elsewhere to the benefits of KYC.

If a website is new, my dear, you are talking 50/50 chance with them if they are without KYC. Because without it, it means they are not regulated. But you have higher rest of mind if they are truly regulated.
Excuse? Nonsense. 50/50 chance without KYC? More nonsense. I already specifically mentioned in my previous post that I have been gambling at several popular sites without providing KYC at any stage.

Also, no KYC requirement and features such as great offers, great customer support etc are what truly make crypto gambling sites popular. Think!
True,  KYC requirement doesn't guaranteed any form of regulation of any online casinos, there is no way a gambling platform will prove to users that they are regulated, many scam projects have stolen users KYC information and they don't know it, these criminals have other use for peoples identity.

At first, I always thought that KYC is the answer, the answer to fraud and other bullshits from platforms, later I found out that KYC requirement could be an idea to scare some people off after they win some money or they have other use for the information they acquired from people. 

Kyc can disguise himself in many ways, but obviously this came from a requirement of governments or government entities and it is something that he does not like to walk, however we as players sometimes understand that not even Casinio himself is to blame for things how the kyc is implemented, the licenses, the permits, everything requires documentation, and sometimes the jkyc disguises it by saying that it is a security measure so that at the time of a possible hack they can recover the person's funds, that is something that I don't conceive, because in crypto there should never be kyc, that goes against the natural laws of crypto.

KYC in crypto casinos is still the pros and cons to date. Indeed, the natural law of crypto is anonymous or it is not clear who owns it, but if I look at some of the cases that have occurred, I consider all of these problems.
indeed casinos shouldn't require KYC for their customers considering crypto is so anonymous. but if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, how can the casino detect customers using money laundering?
on the other hand licensed casinos already have agreements with licensing companies to require KYC from every customer.
It's true that the issue has pros and cons, but you got it wrong by saying casinos must not ask for KYC due to the anonymity of crypto. First, it's not all cryptos transactions that are anonymous, and casinos are companies, not crypto itself, they are only using the crypto as a payment system.

In a sane world, all their activities must be accounted for as a company to avoid illicit flows, so that argument is invalid. Crypto will always act as online money, but the activities of those using it as a payment system for deposit and withdrawal should be regulated.
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March 26, 2023, 08:24:28 AM
True,  KYC requirement doesn't guaranteed any form of regulation of any online casinos, there is no way a gambling platform will prove to users that they are regulated, many scam projects have stolen users KYC information and they don't know it, these criminals have other use for peoples identity.

At first, I always thought that KYC is the answer, the answer to fraud and other bullshits from platforms, later I found out that KYC requirement could be an idea to scare some people off after they win some money or they have other use for the information they acquired from people. 
If you are too afraid to do KYC even in a trusted casino, you don't need to use big money to play gambling and you may not even need to play gambling at all.
And by playing gambling using small money, you don't need to do KYC because even if you win, your winnings probably won't be too big so you can withdraw the winning money.
But if you start to use big money, especially if you are new to the casino, the casino may ask you to do KYC.
So playing gambling in crypto casinos is a choice for us and doing KYC is also our choice so that if we are asked one day to do KYC, we are ready to do it.
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March 26, 2023, 05:53:20 AM
 
So KYC is only harm and an extra trouble for any person. 
This is how I think.
Not all gamblers feel at a loss and get into trouble regarding a KYC.
There are some gamblers who actually don't mind and they easily provide KYC to the casinos they use because they believe the personal data that has been provided will not be misused.
There are also gamblers who don't bother looking for casinos without KYC that are trusted and can be relied upon, so they choose the most popular casinos with KYC to make it easier and faster to use casinos without having to think about it and reset before using the casino.
Maybe you can come to such a conclusion because you yourself don't like KYC and mind if the casino knows personal data because you want to gamble anonymously in a crypto casino.

KYC is a problem for those who use multiple casino platforms, there are difficulties filling in all the data. While those using one platform or only a few, can e en be in favor of KYC service, since it guarantees a bit more security at least in fiat money sector. That's why, I think, in some time both KYC and non-KYC algorithms will be offered by most platforms at the same time, so that it will balance the demands in both groups of gamblers.
Wouldn't it be fine if gamblers gave KYC to several different casinos that gamblers used?
But if the gambler has more than one account at one casino then that will make it difficult for the gambler to provide KYC because it is impossible for the gambler to provide the same personal identity for more than one account at one casino.
If the casino that the gambler uses is different, in my opinion, it is legal for the gambler to give KYC to all the casinos that are used. Obviously many KYC and non KYC algorithms are offered by all existing casinos because gamblers always have different choices so they can determine which casino to use.
Gamblers gotta hit with that KYC info to keep the game legit and block any shady moves. Philosophically speaking, we should aim for that crystal-clear transparency and realness, particularly when the stakes are high. But, I get how rocking multiple accounts at one casino might make the KYC game a bit trickier.

Imagine if we cooked up a wicked solution like a global KYC system for all the casinos to adopt! Picture it like a passport to ride the casino wave, no matter where you're at. To crank up the fun factor, we could have a wild KYC photo booth for your one-of-a-kind picture to use as your all-access KYC pass. That'd be straight fire, right?!
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March 26, 2023, 12:13:49 AM
 
So KYC is only harm and an extra trouble for any person. 
This is how I think.
Not all gamblers feel at a loss and get into trouble regarding a KYC.
There are some gamblers who actually don't mind and they easily provide KYC to the casinos they use because they believe the personal data that has been provided will not be misused.
There are also gamblers who don't bother looking for casinos without KYC that are trusted and can be relied upon, so they choose the most popular casinos with KYC to make it easier and faster to use casinos without having to think about it and reset before using the casino.
Maybe you can come to such a conclusion because you yourself don't like KYC and mind if the casino knows personal data because you want to gamble anonymously in a crypto casino.

KYC is a problem for those who use multiple casino platforms, there are difficulties filling in all the data. While those using one platform or only a few, can e en be in favor of KYC service, since it guarantees a bit more security at least in fiat money sector. That's why, I think, in some time both KYC and non-KYC algorithms will be offered by most platforms at the same time, so that it will balance the demands in both groups of gamblers.
Wouldn't it be fine if gamblers gave KYC to several different casinos that gamblers used?
But if the gambler has more than one account at one casino then that will make it difficult for the gambler to provide KYC because it is impossible for the gambler to provide the same personal identity for more than one account at one casino.
If the casino that the gambler uses is different, in my opinion, it is legal for the gambler to give KYC to all the casinos that are used. Obviously many KYC and non KYC algorithms are offered by all existing casinos because gamblers always have different choices so they can determine which casino to use.
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March 25, 2023, 11:16:06 PM
Of course, no website is completely immune from hacking, am only disappointed that you guys are taking this as an excuse instead of looking elsewhere to the benefits of KYC.

If a website is new, my dear, you are talking 50/50 chance with them if they are without KYC. Because without it, it means they are not regulated. But you have higher rest of mind if they are truly regulated.
Excuse? Nonsense. 50/50 chance without KYC? More nonsense. I already specifically mentioned in my previous post that I have been gambling at several popular sites without providing KYC at any stage.

Also, no KYC requirement and features such as great offers, great customer support etc are what truly make crypto gambling sites popular. Think!
True,  KYC requirement doesn't guaranteed any form of regulation of any online casinos, there is no way a gambling platform will prove to users that they are regulated, many scam projects have stolen users KYC information and they don't know it, these criminals have other use for peoples identity.

At first, I always thought that KYC is the answer, the answer to fraud and other bullshits from platforms, later I found out that KYC requirement could be an idea to scare some people off after they win some money or they have other use for the information they acquired from people. 

Kyc can disguise himself in many ways, but obviously this came from a requirement of governments or government entities and it is something that he does not like to walk, however we as players sometimes understand that not even Casinio himself is to blame for things how the kyc is implemented, the licenses, the permits, everything requires documentation, and sometimes the jkyc disguises it by saying that it is a security measure so that at the time of a possible hack they can recover the person's funds, that is something that I don't conceive, because in crypto there should never be kyc, that goes against the natural laws of crypto.

KYC in crypto casinos is still the pros and cons to date. Indeed, the natural law of crypto is anonymous or it is not clear who owns it, but if I look at some of the cases that have occurred, I consider all of these problems.
indeed casinos shouldn't require KYC for their customers considering crypto is so anonymous. but if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, how can the casino detect customers using money laundering?
on the other hand licensed casinos already have agreements with licensing companies to require KYC from every customer.

maybe this is a little off topic but this is just a real example like the ChipMixer case which is currently being confiscated by the state because of a case where someone mixed bitcoin there even though the funds were the result of a money laundering crime. it is like when a person gambles in a casino using money laundering and if the police investigates the case the funds stop at that casino. wouldn't that also hurt the casino?
of all these problems it's up to everyone whether to do KYC or not because these are still pros and cons.
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March 25, 2023, 10:07:13 PM
Of course, no website is completely immune from hacking, am only disappointed that you guys are taking this as an excuse instead of looking elsewhere to the benefits of KYC.

If a website is new, my dear, you are talking 50/50 chance with them if they are without KYC. Because without it, it means they are not regulated. But you have higher rest of mind if they are truly regulated.
Excuse? Nonsense. 50/50 chance without KYC? More nonsense. I already specifically mentioned in my previous post that I have been gambling at several popular sites without providing KYC at any stage.

Also, no KYC requirement and features such as great offers, great customer support etc are what truly make crypto gambling sites popular. Think!
True,  KYC requirement doesn't guaranteed any form of regulation of any online casinos, there is no way a gambling platform will prove to users that they are regulated, many scam projects have stolen users KYC information and they don't know it, these criminals have other use for peoples identity.

At first, I always thought that KYC is the answer, the answer to fraud and other bullshits from platforms, later I found out that KYC requirement could be an idea to scare some people off after they win some money or they have other use for the information they acquired from people. 

Kyc can disguise himself in many ways, but obviously this came from a requirement of governments or government entities and it is something that he does not like to walk, however we as players sometimes understand that not even Casinio himself is to blame for things how the kyc is implemented, the licenses, the permits, everything requires documentation, and sometimes the jkyc disguises it by saying that it is a security measure so that at the time of a possible hack they can recover the person's funds, that is something that I don't conceive, because in crypto there should never be kyc, that goes against the natural laws of crypto.
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