Topic: Kryptogamers Hive No KYC Casino - page 5. (Read 1488 times)

It should have been made formally with the right format as other ANN threads unless it isn't their offcial announcement thread yet.
Anyway, KYCs should also be expected because even casinos that announce that they won't require it will still ask for proof of address or age so the purpose would almost be the same so we can't avoid KYCs that easily. I guess we should just accept the fact that KYC is almost mandatory nowadays.

Thanks for the clarification. So, in other words, the casino is 2 in 1. The custodial and the non-custodial section. I hope customers are made aware that once they use the custodial section, they may be subject to KYC on request by law enforcement otherwise it may lead to unending disputes

I also wanted to ask why you guys can't make this announcement thread a little bit more attractive with graphics, or is it not your official announcement thread?

Untrue. Read the first statement.

As long as you use non-custodial betting there is no question of kyc since there is no middle-man to hold your funds and ask for kyc.

from these two answers I conclude that it is likely that this casino is right not asking for KYC for betting and when wanting to withdraw funds from the casino.
but if later there is a problem or the casino suspects unusual activity on the account KYC will be requested. is my statement true?

if it's true it has become a natural thing. because in other casinos that don't ask for KYC if there is any suspicious activity on a certain customer's account, they will usually ask for KYC to solve the problem.

but if my statement is wrong please let me know.

  -   This is the first time I have read that there is a non-custodial crypto casino under the hive blockchain. That's why it's not surprising that it doesn't require KYC for your players.

I was curious about Hive, that's why I researched and found out what it is, and I found through the link given by Op that it is also a forum platform where you have the opportunity to earn Hive tokens.

And at this point I like him and there is potential in the future as well, that's why I'm still aware of it until now before I start too.

But the truth is that many minors also start gambling and they use school pocket money to be able to play or bet.
The real problem is not that they are underage to manipulate age and then the casino will not be held responsible if something happens to them.
You can see and understand that any casino will not be responsible for what happens to any of its users, they do not know they are underage or mature, if something undesirable happens, it is clear that they are at their own risk and why do gambling if not want to risk losing everything.

Your answers are direct and plain. These are what we want to see in a casino terms and conditions if the need be so that there would not be any issues with members in future. Most casino do not really do this they only wait for when a gamble wins bid then they come for kyc and the rest of the other documents to making sure they find fault on the gamblers account so they do not give out the winners award. This you have done is quite alright. You did well be stating it clear for better understanding. I hope there would not be any form of deviation from what you have just stated here.

at least you giving an answer like this will clear up a lot of people's misunderstandings, I'm also happy to see your response to the questions the community has asked in this thread, hopefully it clears up the misunderstanding about KYC in your casino, I'd love to play there spending some HIVE on my old account 

Please find below the answers to some of the common questions:

1) If a player wins big, will the casino ask for KYC ?
Ans: Since Kryptogamers is primarily a non-custodial casino on Hive blockchain (HIVE offers free and instant transactions), all player's non-custodial winnings are transferred instantly and free of cost to the player's Hive wallet without requiring any kind of KYC whatsoever. It is not possible for us to ever ask for KYC for the non-custodial section because we are not in control of your Hive blockchain account and therefore cannot suspend or do anything about it.

2) Why is proof of age required if casino does not require KYC ?
Ans: Apart from the non-custodial section, we also have a custodial section of games for custodial wallet players who prefer better user experience and instant gameplays as each non-custodial game-result takes approx 3 seconds (which is Hive block time) while custodial game results are instant (<1 second). However, if you are playing custodial games, the proof-of-age and other documents maybe required only if the law enforcement requests come in for your specific account. Uptill now (4+ years), we have received only 1 request to suspend a custodial Hive account and that person had 0 balance in his wallet. Having said that, we are a privacy friendly casino since 4+ years and have never asked for KYC nor do we intend to ask for KYC unless absolutely required by law.

Hope this answers your major questions. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions.

Proof of age is used to make sure the user isn't a minor, so the casino might not allow the user to play if he's not at least 18 years old. If he's lying, then it's his own risk to gambling and the casino doesn't responsible about that because they've done to make sure the gambler is a matured person.

Age is one of KYC, but it's just really generic and I don't think they will know you if you're just giving how old you're.

Maybe according to them asking for proof of age is not KYC because they think that KYC is personal identification information such as names and so on, but we don't know what the answer and the main reason is from asking for proof of age but they claim that it's not casino KYC.
This kind of thing will become a conversation and debate if he doesn't say and provide the right explanation.
In fact, if you only ask for proof of age without providing KYC or clear identity, I'm sure many users will manipulate it because even KYC, which is clear about identity, can still be manipulated, especially if this is just proof of age.

Sounds right. Player experience on kryptogamers and their terms seems to contradict a bit. I'm myself confused tbh. Let's see what @Kryptogamers replies.

Before I even go to privacy policy. I am concerned about this clause in the terms of service


If this is a no KYC casino, then what do we call asking for proof of age? How is it going to be done minus KYC verification?

Sure, I could be 12, and we asked which year I was born, and I would just say 1970.

Yes, I like this choice of gambling house, I have experience with a casino that has its own currency but I don't like what they have done and I want to get my money out of there and exchange it for bitcoin, I feel like I lost money there. What I gained was experience with those casinos with their coins and what I try to avoid is falling back into those mistakes because I don't want to lose my investment because it's annoying, and it's also nice to give other casinos a chance to see how they develop, it would be ideal if forum members could give positive reviews, that helps a lot.

Same questions, same answers. Go through comments, you'll get your answers.

OP I really do not think your casino offer is feasible.  At first looking at your percentage  profit  looks scammy. You can not be giving out such percentage of casino profits to stakers just like that how about winners of in your platform and isn't that percentage too much for just stakers alone?  Now going by your topic, does it mean that you do not conduct kyc for your customers upon getting registered onboard your casino? Is it clearly stated in your terms and conditions as well as policy? Or you have a certain level of withdrawal that one would do that requires they doing kyc. I think you should come up plain instead of all these tales you have written here because most casinos does such by telling people to register no kyc but upon winning and withdrawal, they start seeing faults and issues with ones account the next thing is to tag account and saying account holder is suspected to have default casino policy all these funny attitude of casinos these day seems very laughable.

Yea, all work same. Paid service don't have mail/phone verification and free ones do to mitigate 'free service' abuse.

Really? I read this link you gave me and I got interested in creating an account here on the hiveblog you are talking about.

    So when I went why were there so many sign-up shopping? the others have a fee and the other two are free just for free with email and verify phone numbers. I'm just confused by what I saw. With the free sign-up, do I still have a chance to gain Hive here?

Hive is blockchain, hive.blog is blogging platform to earn Hive.

Check this post: What's hive and how does it work

I haven't tried Kryptogamers yet, I just looked at this game casino platform and I just noticed that there are few purchases in your slots games.

Besides that, there is no baccarat, which is one of the things I often play in crypto gambling. And is another Hive blog a forum platform? I haven't tried to create an account, but maybe later I will try to create one.