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This weekend match against Real Sociedad at the Anoeta is going to be very hard on Real Madrid. Ronaldo is still baned, Benzema is injured, Ramos and Marcelo are both baned due to red cards in previous matches. On the other  hand, Sociedad is showing a classy performance in this season so far. FC Barcelona will face Getafe away, it is not going to be that hard due to the difference of players quality so i think Barcelona will take the 3 points. Atletico face malaga at home. Atletico seem to be less stronger this year and the performance is not steady so it's a good test for them to see what they are up to this season.
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Eibar vs Leganes - Eibar have home advantage here but Leganes have started this season well, I don't know much about their strengths & weaknesses but you have to expect them to continue their good early season form, away win.

I would normally go for Eibar on this one, since their last season was decent, and they are playing home. But as you pointed out, Leganes had a great start right now, and on the opposite side, Eibar is starting very badly with only one win. I think it's to soon to say Eibar is on a crises right now, so I will go for a home or draw on this one, and under 2.5
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Eibar vs Leganes - Eibar have home advantage here but Leganes have started this season well, I don't know much about their strengths & weaknesses but you have to expect them to continue their good early season form, away win.
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The most interesting match this week in Liga is surely Real Sociedad vs Real Madrid. Great start of the season for Real Sociedad with 4 wins on 4 games played (3 in Liga and 1 in Europa League) and 14 goals scored (10 in Liga and 4 in Europa League).
In addition, Real Madrid will have many important absences: Cristiano Ronaldo, Marcelo, Kovacic and most likely Benzema and Asensio.
Real Madrid must absolutely win not to increase the gap from Barcelona.
 I expect a spectacular match with so many goals
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What will bring down Barcelona this season in the CL is their lack of defensive options. They concentrated more on signing attacking options that they forgot they have a big hole in the defense that can be exploited by fast running teams. What happens if Pique gets suspended? They do not even have someone who can hold the defensive line with as much experience as him.
I think if Pique is suspended then the player who will coat him on the back line is Mascherano because this player has been proven in previous seasons never placed in a center back position and his performance is pretty good for a midfielder who made the center back players.
Barcelona still have nelson semedo, if im not mistaken he is a central defender may coach barcelona will give him a chance when pique is not playing.
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What will bring down Barcelona this season in the CL is their lack of defensive options. They concentrated more on signing attacking options that they forgot they have a big hole in the defense that can be exploited by fast running teams. What happens if Pique gets suspended? They do not even have someone who can hold the defensive line with as much experience as him.
I think if Pique is suspended then the player who will coat him on the back line is Mascherano because this player has been proven in previous seasons never placed in a center back position and his performance is pretty good for a midfielder who made the center back players.
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Eibar started of the season on the right foot after a win over Malaga with 1-0 away at home in the first round but lost the other two games against Athletico Bilbao and Sevilla while Leganes had a strong solid start but managed to lose in the last round and with Eibar  problems especially in their offensive side because scored a single goal in 3 games tge visitors maybe the favorite to win so i think we will have a tight game and under 2.5 goal with the last game between them with Eibar winning 2-0 .
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What will bring down Barcelona this season in the CL is their lack of defensive options. They concentrated more on signing attacking options that they forgot they have a big hole in the defense that can be exploited by fast running teams. What happens if Pique gets suspended? They do not even have someone who can hold the defensive line with as much experience as him.
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This season's start has shown that Barcelona can win the Liga!
Barcelona exploited the absence of CR7 and has accumulated 4 advantage points in Liga.
Also Messi this year seems much more focused than last year (and I think also very angry for the bad last season).
Messi has already scored 7 goals (5 in Liga and 2 in champion's), he is ready to compete for his sixth Ballon d'or for 2018
I quite agree, Messi is indeed ready for the new season but the problem is, are his fellow teammates ready as well, Lionel Messi can do his best but he can't be doing it all the times, We all know that without a doubt, Luis Suarez has been slow lately, my guess is that age has catch up to him. With Neymar absent and Suarez past his prime i only see Domestic League trophy for the Catalans but not Champions League.

You never know, their game can change, they can strike back at CL. But yeah I agree only Messi won't be able to do nothing, how much a single player can stretch his ability, its a 11 man team game. Even 1 man support can help him but alone its really tough. Suarez might be going through something else, I don;t think its his age, like he is a great player and we have seen many great players showing great gameplay at that age.
He has been pass his best for some time now. it started last season and it seems that it's going to go on this season as well. Unless the likes of Dembele, Iniesta and Suarez pick up their own weight trouble is going to loom for Barcelona this season and they might end up trophyless.
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This season's start has shown that Barcelona can win the Liga!
Barcelona exploited the absence of CR7 and has accumulated 4 advantage points in Liga.
Also Messi this year seems much more focused than last year (and I think also very angry for the bad last season).
Messi has already scored 7 goals (5 in Liga and 2 in champion's), he is ready to compete for his sixth Ballon d'or for 2018
I quite agree, Messi is indeed ready for the new season but the problem is, are his fellow teammates ready as well, Lionel Messi can do his best but he can't be doing it all the times, We all know that without a doubt, Luis Suarez has been slow lately, my guess is that age has catch up to him. With Neymar absent and Suarez past his prime i only see Domestic League trophy for the Catalans but not Champions League.

You never know, their game can change, they can strike back at CL. But yeah I agree only Messi won't be able to do nothing, how much a single player can stretch his ability, its a 11 man team game. Even 1 man support can help him but alone its really tough. Suarez might be going through something else, I don;t think its his age, like he is a great player and we have seen many great players showing great gameplay at that age.
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This season's start has shown that Barcelona can win the Liga!
Barcelona exploited the absence of CR7 and has accumulated 4 advantage points in Liga.
Also Messi this year seems much more focused than last year (and I think also very angry for the bad last season).
Messi has already scored 7 goals (5 in Liga and 2 in champion's), he is ready to compete for his sixth Ballon d'or for 2018
I quite agree, Messi is indeed ready for the new season but the problem is, are his fellow teammates ready as well, Lionel Messi can do his best but he can't be doing it all the times, We all know that without a doubt, Luis Suarez has been slow lately, my guess is that age has catch up to him. With Neymar absent and Suarez past his prime i only see Domestic League trophy for the Catalans but not Champions League.
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Madrid has a very good team. Their problem is that they are too programmed to look for Ronaldo for goals. They always pass to him for the tap ins and also look up to his leadership. Now that Ronaldo is not playing, they are like deer caught in the headlights without a leader. Argentina and Barcelona is the same way with Messi, they tend to look up to him and pass the ball to him thinking he can do everything else.
if the principle of team play Real Madrid classmates as you mentioned, maybe they will not grow far away if someday Ronaldo leaves Real Madrid or retire. I think the thought of a team like this should be changed soon in order to improve cooperation within the team because Ronaldo or Messi is not a God who can make miracles in every game.

Sometimes I see Real Madrid playing well even without Ronaldo. Their squad depth is stronger than Barcelona, also now their wonderkid Marco Asensio plays consistently. Unlike Barcelona, I think their dependence on Messi is too great. The game is always different if without Messi. Barcelona and Argentina too feel great having Messi and think Messi can do it alone.
But without Ronaldo real plays only sometimes good. The last game this team showed the value of this great player. Real Madrid lost this season already 4 points.

distance points with the top standings are only 4 points apart. It's still the start of the season and I'm sure Real Madrid can still compete with the top positioners of the standings
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Madrid has a very good team. Their problem is that they are too programmed to look for Ronaldo for goals. They always pass to him for the tap ins and also look up to his leadership. Now that Ronaldo is not playing, they are like deer caught in the headlights without a leader. Argentina and Barcelona is the same way with Messi, they tend to look up to him and pass the ball to him thinking he can do everything else.
if the principle of team play Real Madrid classmates as you mentioned, maybe they will not grow far away if someday Ronaldo leaves Real Madrid or retire. I think the thought of a team like this should be changed soon in order to improve cooperation within the team because Ronaldo or Messi is not a God who can make miracles in every game.

Sometimes I see Real Madrid playing well even without Ronaldo. Their squad depth is stronger than Barcelona, also now their wonderkid Marco Asensio plays consistently. Unlike Barcelona, I think their dependence on Messi is too great. The game is always different if without Messi. Barcelona and Argentina too feel great having Messi and think Messi can do it alone.
But without Ronaldo real plays only sometimes good. The last game this team showed the value of this great player. Real Madrid lost this season already 4 points.
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Madrid has a very good team. Their problem is that they are too programmed to look for Ronaldo for goals. They always pass to him for the tap ins and also look up to his leadership. Now that Ronaldo is not playing, they are like deer caught in the headlights without a leader. Argentina and Barcelona is the same way with Messi, they tend to look up to him and pass the ball to him thinking he can do everything else.
if the principle of team play Real Madrid classmates as you mentioned, maybe they will not grow far away if someday Ronaldo leaves Real Madrid or retire. I think the thought of a team like this should be changed soon in order to improve cooperation within the team because Ronaldo or Messi is not a God who can make miracles in every game.

Sometimes I see Real Madrid playing well even without Ronaldo. Their squad depth is stronger than Barcelona, also now their wonderkid Marco Asensio plays consistently. Unlike Barcelona, I think their dependence on Messi is too great. The game is always different if without Messi. Barcelona and Argentina too feel great having Messi and think Messi can do it alone.
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Madrid has a very good team. Their problem is that they are too programmed to look for Ronaldo for goals. They always pass to him for the tap ins and also look up to his leadership. Now that Ronaldo is not playing, they are like deer caught in the headlights without a leader. Argentina and Barcelona is the same way with Messi, they tend to look up to him and pass the ball to him thinking he can do everything else.
if the principle of team play Real Madrid classmates as you mentioned, maybe they will not grow far away if someday Ronaldo leaves Real Madrid or retire. I think the thought of a team like this should be changed soon in order to improve cooperation within the team because Ronaldo or Messi is not a God who can make miracles in every game.
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This season's start has shown that Barcelona can win the Liga!
Barcelona exploited the absence of CR7 and has accumulated 4 advantage points in Liga.
Also Messi this year seems much more focused than last year (and I think also very angry for the bad last season).
Messi has already scored 7 goals (5 in Liga and 2 in champion's), he is ready to compete for his sixth Ballon d'or for 2018
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Yes you are right about that but i think christiano ronaldo is an important person on real madrid, it's like he can to be a leader on real madrid and also can support their teammate on real madrid. Let's see what can Zidane do on the next matches without ronaldo, if he still can't figure it out, it will be a big problem.
football should be not an individual play but admitted or no sometimes there are the teams who too rely on the particular players such as Messi to Barcelona and Ronaldo to Real Madrid and if they're not played because got injury or suspension then the teams itself cannot playing well and usually they will lost and i think this is the cause for now why Real madrid still cannot showing the best performance yet because they still cannot figure out the players who equally to Ronaldo skill
Over reliance on a single players tends to be bad for every time. Look at when the MSN was at it's prime though Messi was the superior player, one can say that the team wasn't over dependent on him, there were times that Messi didn't play exceptionally well but the likes of Neymar and Suarez played their parts wonderfully and it all goes well for everyone. But with a one man team when the star player is stopped, the whole team crumbles. With the BBC we all know that only Cristiano Ronaldo has been playing well for some time now.

I agree with you, football is a team game, and not team should be dependent on any player, and to be honest I don't think Real Madrid is dependent on Ronaldo, or that Barcelona is dependent on Messi, but they do have tremendous value, and play a very important role on their team, so of course that if any of those key players misses a game, the team will resent a little from it. Since these top teams are so competitive, and they need to be at their highest level to win titles, the slightest decrease in quality can be deadly and that's why they seem to be so dependent on these key players.

Real Madrid will probably still win most of their games without Ronaldo, because they are a great team, but they will draw or lose a few because he wasn't there, and that will have a big impact on their overall performance, and there is nothing they can do about it.

So I don't think they are dependent on him, but if you lose as much as an inch on the level they compete, it makes a big difference.
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Yes you are right about that but i think christiano ronaldo is an important person on real madrid, it's like he can to be a leader on real madrid and also can support their teammate on real madrid. Let's see what can Zidane do on the next matches without ronaldo, if he still can't figure it out, it will be a big problem.
football should be not an individual play but admitted or not sometimes there are the teams who too rely on the particular players such as Messi to Barcelona and Ronaldo to Real Madrid and if they're not played because got injury or suspension then the teams itself cannot playing well and usually they will lost and i think this is the cause for now why Real madrid still cannot showing the best performance yet because they still cannot figure out the players who equally to Ronaldo skill
Over reliance on a single players tends to be bad for every time. Look at when the MSN was at it's prime though Messi was the superior player, one can say that the team wasn't over dependent on him, there were times that Messi didn't play exceptionally well but the likes of Neymar and Suarez played their parts wonderfully and it all goes well for everyone. But with a one man team when the star player is stopped, the whole team crumbles. With the BBC we all know that only Cristiano Ronaldo has been playing well for some time now.
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Madrid has a very good team. Their problem is that they are too programmed to look for Ronaldo for goals. They always pass to him for the tap ins and also look up to his leadership. Now that Ronaldo is not playing, they are like deer caught in the headlights without a leader. Argentina and Barcelona is the same way with Messi, they tend to look up to him and pass the ball to him thinking he can do everything else.
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1 win with 2 times draw is not good for Real madrid even they cannot win against Levante while plenty opportunity to makes goals even Real Sociedad have better performance rather than them although the league still very far but Zidane should do more for upcoming match and in my point of view the cause why Madrid still can't showing the best performance is they are not bought good players this season


Christiano Ronaldo can't play though, that's why Real Madrid have a rought time. Real Madrid without christiano ronaldo is like not real madrid and i don't know why Real Madrid can't win without Ronaldo, it's like no other options left on real madrid. Btw how many banned matches left for Ronaldo ?
We all said Barcelona was a one man team and now we can say the same about Real Madrid,  without Cristiano  Ronaldo, They are out of sorts and they don't even know what to do with their talismanic player, Benzema and Bale are very disappointing.

I think that Real are a fantastic team but they rely on one player probably more than any other team in world football. Without Ronaldo they aren't half as good, in big games at mey moments he is always the one to produce.
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