La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 - page 405.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 06, 2016, 04:06:40 AM

Although Atletico's squad is quite good too in my opinion.

They have a great squad but it isnt completed yet. They should have better striker, I dont mean disrespect to torres however someone better could be replacing him to play alongside with griezman , this guy is definitely not going to be diego costa because he is not much better than torres himself

I think atletico not need to buy striker due they have griezmann maybe would be nice if atletico buy the player have great passed like mesut ozil,mahrez,silva.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 06, 2016, 04:06:40 AM

Although Atletico's squad is quite good too in my opinion.

They have a great squad but it isnt completed yet. They should have better striker, I dont mean disrespect to torres however someone better could be replacing him to play alongside with griezman , this guy is definitely not going to be diego costa because he is not much better than torres himself

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Quote from: dinda22 on August 05, 2016, 07:58:47 PM

yes if we see when Real Madrid advanced to the Champions League final and being Champion. real madrid struggle easier when advanced to the finals compared to ateltico madrid.

Struggled? Compared to the other team, I dont really remember seeing them struggling in the champions league. They are of deserved to win the champions league however they wont really win it if it was still rafa benitez, it was a good thing that their management decided to sack rafa benitez immediately

Everyone has a different viewpoint I myself saw the same thing Real Madrid feel more confident in the final because they are against Atletico Madrid
Based on the history of the game both teams always compete in local leagues and international leagues Real madrid can predict the strategy and style of play Atletico Madrid especially Real Madrid beat Atl Madrid in the same competition a few years ago.

In the long history of the Madrid derbies, Real has more wins in it and they are more confident coming in these matches because there was a psychological "feel" that they always have the upper hand. I agree that there was much more at stake because it was a CL final, but that said, the psychological "feeling" that you will have the upper hand is a big boost on Real's players. And they do have arguably the better squad compared to Atletico. Although Atletico's squad is quite good too in my opinion.

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Quote from: shulio on August 06, 2016, 02:53:42 AM

Quote from: dinda22 on August 05, 2016, 07:58:47 PM

yes if we see when Real Madrid advanced to the Champions League final and being Champion. real madrid struggle easier when advanced to the finals compared to ateltico madrid.

Struggled? Compared to the other team, I dont really remember seeing them struggling in the champions league. They are of deserved to win the champions league however they wont really win it if it was still rafa benitez, it was a good thing that their management decided to sack rafa benitez immediately

Everyone has a different viewpoint I myself saw the same thing Real Madrid feel more confident in the final because they are against Atletico Madrid
Based on the history of the game both teams always compete in local leagues and international leagues Real madrid can predict the strategy and style of play Atletico Madrid especially Real Madrid beat Atl Madrid in the same competition a few years ago.

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Quote from: dinda22 on August 05, 2016, 07:58:47 PM

yes if we see when Real Madrid advanced to the Champions League final and being Champion. real madrid struggle easier when advanced to the finals compared to ateltico madrid.

Struggled? Compared to the other team, I dont really remember seeing them struggling in the champions league. They are of deserved to win the champions league however they wont really win it if it was still rafa benitez, it was a good thing that their management decided to sack rafa benitez immediately

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Quote from: mixan on August 05, 2016, 10:42:01 AM

Yes it seems that Atletico does not have the last minute luck in their matches because they don't have a lucky rabbit's foot that Real Madrid seems to have playing on there team. And we all know who that lucky one is. Wink

Him and his team winning the Euro's only showed to solidified this theory. Grin

Luck is of course part of the football game, every team has its own luck. ZIdane has his luck by winning the champions league and winning el clasico in few weeks after his debut, you can call that as a skill or whatever you want but it is part of the luck somehow , it helps the team win no matter what you think of it

There must always be a factor of luck, yes if we see when Real Madrid advanced to the Champions League final and being Champion. real madrid struggle easier when advanced to the finals compared to ateltico madrid.

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Quote from: mixan on August 05, 2016, 10:42:01 AM

Yes it seems that Atletico does not have the last minute luck in their matches because they don't have a lucky rabbit's foot that Real Madrid seems to have playing on there team. And we all know who that lucky one is. Wink

Him and his team winning the Euro's only showed to solidified this theory. Grin

Luck is of course part of the football game, every team has its own luck. ZIdane has his luck by winning the champions league and winning el clasico in few weeks after his debut, you can call that as a skill or whatever you want but it is part of the luck somehow , it helps the team win no matter what you think of it

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It's a shame for Atletico that they lost in 2 recent CL Finals. It's almost like they're just not supposed to win it.

That just shows how good they are, not every team can get into the finals of champions league easily so they should be appreciated. Compare to the other team, they are still actually below the others like barcelona and real madrid however they managed to made it to the finals and beat barcelona last season

They are so close but just not there yet. It is in fingers reach to get a cup. Just need that extra incentive to get it that's all. An offensive start player to fill that gap that they desperately need is the only answer to their question of becoming a finals cup winner! Grin

their players should belleive and stay focus in the hole match as they tend do lose in their last minutes of the game its unforrtunate for them especialy when they beaten the last championsleague winer twice in the semifinals but their luck go against them when they face Real Madrid

Yes it seems that Atletico does not have the last minute luck in their matches because they don't have a lucky rabbit's foot that Real Madrid seems to have playing on there team. And we all know who that lucky one is. Wink

Him and his team winning the Euro's only showed to solidified this theory. Grin

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Quote from: tebolbiano on August 05, 2016, 09:19:22 AM

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Quote from: shulio on August 05, 2016, 01:32:30 AM

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It's a shame for Atletico that they lost in 2 recent CL Finals. It's almost like they're just not supposed to win it.

That just shows how good they are, not every team can get into the finals of champions league easily so they should be appreciated. Compare to the other team, they are still actually below the others like barcelona and real madrid however they managed to made it to the finals and beat barcelona last season

They are so close but just not there yet. It is in fingers reach to get a cup. Just need that extra incentive to get it that's all. An offensive start player to fill that gap that they desperately need is the only answer to their question of becoming a finals cup winner! Grin

their players should belleive and stay focus in the hole match as they tend do lose in their last minutes of the game its unforrtunate for them especialy when they beaten the last championsleague winer twice in the semifinals but their luck go against them when they face Real Madrid

atletico madrid always less fortunate as against real madrid. when the Champions League final 2014, atletico madrid should be a champion, if they are not careless at one minute before the end of the game. whereas when in the league, atletico madrid able to beat Real Madrid in their own homes.

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Quote from: Arcteryx on August 05, 2016, 09:10:34 AM

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 05, 2016, 01:22:29 AM

It's a shame for Atletico that they lost in 2 recent CL Finals. It's almost like they're just not supposed to win it.

That just shows how good they are, not every team can get into the finals of champions league easily so they should be appreciated. Compare to the other team, they are still actually below the others like barcelona and real madrid however they managed to made it to the finals and beat barcelona last season

They are so close but just not there yet. It is in fingers reach to get a cup. Just need that extra incentive to get it that's all. An offensive start player to fill that gap that they desperately need is the only answer to their question of becoming a finals cup winner! Grin

their players should belleive and stay focus in the hole match as they tend do lose in their last minutes of the game its unforrtunate for them especialy when they beaten the last championsleague winer twice in the semifinals but their luck go against them when they face Real Madrid

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Quote from: shulio on August 05, 2016, 01:32:30 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 05, 2016, 01:22:29 AM

It's a shame for Atletico that they lost in 2 recent CL Finals. It's almost like they're just not supposed to win it.

That just shows how good they are, not every team can get into the finals of champions league easily so they should be appreciated. Compare to the other team, they are still actually below the others like barcelona and real madrid however they managed to made it to the finals and beat barcelona last season

They are so close but just not there yet. It is in fingers reach to get a cup. Just need that extra incentive to get it that's all. An offensive start player to fill that gap that they desperately need is the only answer to their question of becoming a finals cup winner! Grin

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 05, 2016, 01:22:29 AM

It's a shame for Atletico that they lost in 2 recent CL Finals. It's almost like they're just not supposed to win it.

That just shows how good they are, not every team can get into the finals of champions league easily so they should be appreciated. Compare to the other team, they are still actually below the others like barcelona and real madrid however they managed to made it to the finals and beat barcelona last season

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Quote from: hasiramasenju on August 03, 2016, 01:37:41 PM

i have just seen the news that currently Atletico Madrid is the most teams who spend a lot money for buying players
a bit surprised because i'm not see Real Madrid or Barcelona do that and looks like Diego Simeone has very want more trophy this season

i think he want champions League trophy for sure this season
think that this will be main priority

It's a shame for Atletico that they lost in 2 recent CL Finals. It's almost like they're just not supposed to win it.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 05, 2016, 12:27:49 AM

The reason why Barca and Real have not splashed money this summer is because they were ordered by the Spanish government to repay all the money they owe in the form of "soft loans, tax breaks and property deals from the government over the past 26 years."

Now we know why these "giants" are so good at inflating the transfer market. They've been using the people's money to fund their football clubs.

Real Madrid and Barcelona ordered to repay millions in support from Spanish government
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Spanish authorities have been ordered to reclaim millions of pounds given to Real Madrid and Barcelona in state support.

The La Liga juggernauts are among the teams said to have benefited from soft loans, tax breaks and property deals from the government over the past 26 years.

Margrethe Vestager, the EU competition commissioner, demanded the beginning of repayments on Monday.

"Using taxpayers' money to finance professional football clubs can create unfair competition," Vestager said in a statement.

"Professional football is a commercial activity with significant money involved and public money must comply with fair competition rules."

The government are biased, they got money from both clubs as well. Those two club are the ones that made spanish league into one of the best league currently and they attract alot of tourist because of that. They got benefit from it and now they are going milk every pounds that they once gave to them

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The reason why Barca and Real have not splashed money this summer is because they were ordered by the Spanish government to repay all the money they owe in the form of "soft loans, tax breaks and property deals from the government over the past 26 years."

Now we know why these "giants" are so good at inflating the transfer market. They've been using the people's money to fund their football clubs.

Real Madrid and Barcelona ordered to repay millions in support from Spanish government
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Spanish authorities have been ordered to reclaim millions of pounds given to Real Madrid and Barcelona in state support.

The La Liga juggernauts are among the teams said to have benefited from soft loans, tax breaks and property deals from the government over the past 26 years.

Margrethe Vestager, the EU competition commissioner, demanded the beginning of repayments on Monday.

"Using taxpayers' money to finance professional football clubs can create unfair competition," Vestager said in a statement.

"Professional football is a commercial activity with significant money involved and public money must comply with fair competition rules."

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i have just seen the news that currently Atletico Madrid is the most teams who spend a lot money for buying players
a bit surprised because i'm not see Real Madrid or Barcelona do that and looks like Diego Simeone has very want more trophy this season

to bring in expensive players does not necessarily Atletico could have easily for a league title. they have to fight and work together in every match in the Spanish league.

they was not spending money for buying the most expensive players but they buying more players than Barcelona and Real Madrid and maybe the main reason that because Simeone want spanish league trophy and want to broke dominated for Barcelona and Madrid in the league because Atletico could be a tough opponent to them

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The Barcelona fans are going yo say Barcelona and the Real Madrid fans are going to say Real Madrid.
We do not know who is going to win it because it can go to both teams.

Those fans are biased therefore if you really want to know who is going to win then ask opinion from a non biased fans. Im neither of those team's fans and I do think that real madrid is going to win this season, zidane was great last season despite that he was only managing the team for only a few months

I agree, zidane able to make major changes to real madrid. when zidane only train for 6 months, and zidane managed to get a first Champions League trophy as a coach.

Yeah, after watching a couple of Real preseason games, I think Zidane isn't a bad manager/coach after all. I thought he was somewhat of a joke when I first heard he was gonna be managing the club. I like his style and to some extent he takes Klopp's 'heavy metal' football to a bit of higher intensity. Looking forward to watch their matches every weekend.

Overall by seeing preseason games we can't assess zidane have poor performance at least he has give real madrid a trophy last year even though in my eyes that's pure just a lucky.

It's not all luck. Real has the quality, they were motivated and they worked hard. You know what's pure luck? Leicester winning the EPL trophy. We will not see them win another EPL trophy in another 30 - 40 years or so. In Real's case, they are still contenders to win La Liga and the CL.

If you think the pure luck by telling about leicester winning the EPL last year, so sorry i can't agree. in premier league more hard than spanish league so what leicester get it's because they have a quality to be the winner.

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Quote from: hasiramasenju on August 03, 2016, 01:37:41 PM

i have just seen the news that currently Atletico Madrid is the most teams who spend a lot money for buying players
a bit surprised because i'm not see Real Madrid or Barcelona do that and looks like Diego Simeone has very want more trophy this season

to bring in expensive players does not necessarily Atletico could have easily for a league title. they have to fight and work together in every match in the Spanish league.

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Quote from: hasiramasenju on August 03, 2016, 01:37:41 PM

i have just seen the news that currently Atletico Madrid is the most teams who spend a lot money for buying players
a bit surprised because i'm not see Real Madrid or Barcelona do that and looks like Diego Simeone has very want more trophy this season

well that true i dont now why but seem they are aiming some trophy this season
will Simeone as coach take finally Champions league trophy this season

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Quote from: lexuz on August 03, 2016, 01:48:07 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on August 02, 2016, 03:43:56 PM

Quote from: crossabdd on August 02, 2016, 12:41:22 PM

Quote from: shulio on August 02, 2016, 12:10:42 PM

Quote from: Qaoven on August 02, 2016, 06:55:30 AM

The Barcelona fans are going yo say Barcelona and the Real Madrid fans are going to say Real Madrid.
We do not know who is going to win it because it can go to both teams.

Those fans are biased therefore if you really want to know who is going to win then ask opinion from a non biased fans. Im neither of those team's fans and I do think that real madrid is going to win this season, zidane was great last season despite that he was only managing the team for only a few months

I agree, zidane able to make major changes to real madrid. when zidane only train for 6 months, and zidane managed to get a first Champions League trophy as a coach.

Yeah, after watching a couple of Real preseason games, I think Zidane isn't a bad manager/coach after all. I thought he was somewhat of a joke when I first heard he was gonna be managing the club. I like his style and to some extent he takes Klopp's 'heavy metal' football to a bit of higher intensity. Looking forward to watch their matches every weekend.

Overall by seeing preseason games we can't assess zidane have poor performance at least he has give real madrid a trophy last year even though in my eyes that's pure just a lucky.

It's not all luck. Real has the quality, they were motivated and they worked hard. You know what's pure luck? Leicester winning the EPL trophy. We will not see them win another EPL trophy in another 30 - 40 years or so. In Real's case, they are still contenders to win La Liga and the CL.

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