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Never be fooled by the Valencia Vs Real Madrid match because the bookies could take advantage of the match later, because if all bets are in favor of Real Madrid then most likely everyone who bets on Real Madrid will easily win the bet or the match will end in a draw, but the ridiculous thing is that Valencina is able to win the match and everyone who bets will experience mass defeat, this could happen because the bookies have a role in the match.
This is Madrid we are talking about and they want to get points so I don't see Valencia being much of a threat to them. Heck, even if they gave Valencia one week to rest, they would still perform poorly. This is not a matter of small teams trying to prove stubborn to the bigger team or acting as a stumbling block, I see this as a clear victory for Real Madrid. Except they would want to mess up and bottle their chance.
The Valencia vs Real Madrid match has just started. In the next 90 minutes, we will get to know the results of the team that owes the 3 points. All hands point at Real Madrid to win the match to top the table, even though Valencia will prove stubborn as the host team to hold Real Madrid to a draw at least. Let's see how the match turns out for them. A win will be much better for Real Madrid, as I look toward it.
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Atletico Madrid can be a pain in the *$$ when they start making those who wants to win the league title be at the state of confusion (by making them drop important points) but this is a different story altogether because they're now making a way to winning the league title and the former league leaders that's Barcelona, has left that spot for them and it would be very hard for them to get to the top again and it seems the Atletico Madrid side might win it this season because this is the season I have seen them becoming serious in a very long while, now the question is, "can they keep up with this winning mentality till the end of the season to call themselves champions of Spain"?
The big question is whether Atletico Madrid can finally continue their winning streak. Since Atletico Madrid and Barcelona or Real Madrid do not have a big difference in points, besides it is the middle of the season. If Atletico Madrid perform poorly in the next matches from now on, they will fall far behind in terms of points. If they succeed in planning to win every match they play in the next few matches, they can win the La Liga title this season. As Real Madrid and Barcelona will compete hard, we may have to wait until the last match to see which team wins the La Liga title. But Atletico Madrid must be praised as they are performing really well this season.
It is difficult to know if they will continue their winning streak because no one can predict things like injuries, which is the major setback most clubs face that usually lead to their bad performance. If everything remain as it is not, then they will likely continue their wonderful performance. I was amazed when I checked their history this season and found out they had only lost one match this season, such a good record that no one actually expected. Surprisingly, Real Madrid may be seen as not being in their best this season, but they have also been very good ad have only lost two matches this season as well. The league title may likely be between the two clubs who are not showing any sign of slowing down.
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Atletico Madrid doesn't have as many fans as Real Madrid and that's why people usually wait to see Atletico Madrid lose their place in the La Liga and lose some points to let Real Madrid have a better chance. The fact about Atletico Madrid is they don't have too many investments like Real Madrid and they don't have fans like Barcelona. Maybe that's why they can hope to win the La Liga title at the end of the season.
Considering the potential n Atletico Madrid I think they don't have good players and a good coach to help this team have better performance and the main reason for Atletico Madrid to be in the first position in the La Liga table is that Real Madrid has many injured players which made this team have bad results while Barcelona has the same situation this Flick, otherwise, I think Atletico Madrid is not a strong tea to be in the first place of the La Liga table normal consider the players the have in this team.


Under the tutelage of Diego Simeone, Atletico was able to perform well, even in every season always competing tightly at the top of the standings. With Atletico Madrid, Diego Simeone once gave an extraordinary surprise to the team, where he was able to bring the championship title under the dominance of two big clubs, Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​​​which at that time the two big clubs were at the peak of their glory. without being studded with star players and strong finances, Simeone was able to present two La Liga trophies in the 2012/12 season and the 2020/21 season. he is one of the best coaches owned by Atletico Madrid, and that is why he has had a fairly long career at Atletico.

And indeed, Atletico's fan base is not as big as Barcelona and Real Madrid, and so is the wealth they have, but I am sure Diego Simeone will again give a surprise in La Liga. Atletico is currently at the top of the standings, and maybe their position will be shifted temporarily. because soon Real Madrid will start its 19th match against Valencia, and it is likely that Real Madrid will win this match. But atltico has only played 18 matches so if they can perform consistently then atletico will return to the top of the standings.
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Atletico Madrid doesn't have as many fans as Real Madrid and that's why people usually wait to see Atletico Madrid lose their place in the La Liga and lose some points to let Real Madrid have a better chance. The fact about Atletico Madrid is they don't have too many investments like Real Madrid and they don't have fans like Barcelona. Maybe that's why they can hope to win the La Liga title at the end of the season.
Considering the potential n Atletico Madrid I think they don't have good players and a good coach to help this team have better performance and the main reason for Atletico Madrid to be in the first position in the La Liga table is that Real Madrid has many injured players which made this team have bad results while Barcelona has the same situation this Flick, otherwise, I think Atletico Madrid is not a strong tea to be in the first place of the La Liga table normal consider the players the have in this team.


Some people are tired of seeing Real Madrid and Barcelona dominate the La Liga, so it is common for people like me to support Atletico Madrid to win this season. Diego Simeone's side has been fortunate not to have many injured players. I can remember that Thomas Lemar is the major player that is having a major injury. There are speculations that the Los Blancos will be using the January transfer window to replace some injured players. While Barcelona is limited by not just injury but finance. They have not been able to register Dani Olmo and that's a big distraction for the club. If Atletico remains consistent, injury free and maintain their players, they might be the new champions.
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Will you stop talking rubbish? The bookies have no influence on the outcome of the match, in that Madrid are most likely to win because they are second in the league while Valencia are second from bottom. Full stop. And if Valencia win it will be a miracle (not in a religious sense), as sometimes happens in football.

Your conspiracy theory makes so little sense that you haven't stopped to think that the bookies win anyway, and that when matches are bought (or were bought in the old days when there was more cash) it's because there is something at stake, but here there is nothing.
I was also shocked at the generalisation. I mean how will bookies influence a match simply because everyone one is making prediction in favour of a club. If he report were to be in the reduction in the odd it would have sounded more appealing than laying claims that are not valid and accurate.

Valencia has no chance in this game. The second bottom team against the second top team, there is no match here, all I see is a smooth three points well secured by Madrid with no stress or goal conceded. This s should be a total clean sheet for the away team but if Valencia wins then it means they were able to create chances and Madrid were lose to stop their advancement.
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Never be fooled by the Valencia Vs Real Madrid match because the bookies could take advantage of the match later, because if all bets are in favor of Real Madrid then most likely everyone who bets on Real Madrid will easily win the bet or the match will end in a draw, but the ridiculous thing is that Valencina is able to win the match and everyone who bets will experience mass defeat, this could happen because the bookies have a role in the match.
This is Madrid we are talking about and they want to get points so I don't see Valencia being much of a threat to them. Heck, even if they gave Valencia one week to rest, they would still perform poorly. This is not a matter of small teams trying to prove stubborn to the bigger team or acting as a stumbling block, I see this as a clear victory for Real Madrid. Except they would want to mess up and bottle their chance.
The betting odds may make you undecided but I believe that this match will be easy for Real Madrid and then they will win.
Valencia is a team that has collected 12 points and they are almost in last place. Real Madrid is a team that aims to take the lead from Atletico Madrid again.
So Ancelotti will implement the right plan to win this match today and I think Ancelotti will not have a hard time to win today.
Of course Ancelotti does not want to waste the opportunity in this match to be able to overtake Atletico Madrid at the top of the standings, especially since the current Real Madrid squad has returned from vacation and is of course in good condition. However, even so, the match against Valencia is still not easy, so Real Madrid should not underestimate Valencia and should not make mistakes. because Valencia always gives surprises even though Valencia is currently in the bottom two of the standings. Like last season, Valencia managed to hold Real Madrid to a draw after Jude got a red card. So it is possible that this match will make Real Madrid lose points. Moreover, Valencia has just changed coaches, we know that when a team changes coaches, there is usually extra motivation from the players because the new coach will bring a new strategy, and this will be a challenge for Real Madrid.

But I will still bet on Real Madrid's victory in this match. Because I see all the Real Madrid players are currently in very good condition. Especially Vini Jr, after he made the most of his vacation time. He is back in good shape, motivated and of course very enthusiastic, especially after the individual awards he received in the last few days, this will add extra motivation for him to bring home the three points for Real Madrid.
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Real Madrid will shift Atletico position when win versus Valencia tomorrow. but there is something doubtful if Madrid can win easily tomorrow because Valencia Home is something which is not easy to defeat Real. Estadio Mestalla is the hardest place for Real Madrid to win. During this decade, real madrid only have 29% chance to win on that stadium. there is an impression if that the stadium won't bring victory for Madrid. But, even haunted Real Madrid come with friendship, they will be welcomed because the president really helps them when it flooded the other day.
Today's laliga match between Valencia and Real Madrid will be a crazy test but I believe without a doubt that Real Madrid will come out with all three points regardless of where the match will be played. Valencia right now are in the relegation zone in the laliga and I know that they don't the quality of players and depth of squad capabling of causing an upset against Real Madrid.  While Real Madrid are undeniable the best team in the world and they are clear favourite to win the match they still should not underrate Valencia or don't use their strongest eleven available.

Both teams are ready for tonight's game their first eleven are all set.
Valencia lineup (4-3-3, right to left): Marmasahvili (GK) — Folquier, Mosquera, Guillamon, Rioja — Guerra, Barrenechea — Canos, Almeida, Lopez — Duro.

Real Madrid lineup (4-3-3, right to left): Courtois (GK) — Vazquez, Rudiger, Tchouameni, Mendy — Modric, Bellingham, Valverde — Rodrygo, Mbappe, Vinicius Jr.

Real Madrid are set to begin their outstanding match against Valencia. it will be an exciting moment to see Real Madrid topping the league this evening. Mestalla Stadium will equally be an exciting place for both fans to witness Valencia vs Real Madrid, this match is very important for both teams but I think Real Madrid have chances of winning because they have what it's take to win the match. I don't expect to see any surprise result but what I expected (Real Madrid victory)
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Atletico Madrid can be a pain in the *$$ when they start making those who wants to win the league title be at the state of confusion (by making them drop important points) but this is a different story altogether because they're now making a way to winning the league title and the former league leaders that's Barcelona, has left that spot for them and it would be very hard for them to get to the top again and it seems the Atletico Madrid side might win it this season because this is the season I have seen them becoming serious in a very long while, now the question is, "can they keep up with this winning mentality till the end of the season to call themselves champions of Spain"?

Honestly, I am personally amazed by Atletico Madrid because this season they are better than last year and without realizing it, Atletico Madrid's performance is now better and more advanced than last season. and now rivals such as Barcelona and Real Madrid are now ranked below Atletico Madrid and indeed this will give Atletico Madrid great potential to win the La Liga title this season as long as Atletico Madrid must consistently win until the end of the season and that is of course a condition that must be implemented. by Atletico Madrid if you want to become champions.

Of course, in my opinion, maintaining the winning mentality of Atletico Madrid players is certainly not easy at the moment and of course it is certain that at this time considering that the Laliga team still has many matches to play, it will definitely not be easy for Atletico Madrid to maintain the winning mentality of Atletico Madrid players until the end of the season. Yes, the point is that currently we cannot predict what Atletico Madrid's condition will be at the end of the season with certainty because it could be said to be the middle of the season. But of course, right now we will only be able to watch until the winter transfer window closes, after that we will see the development of the Laliga team. But honestly, I predict that Atletico Madrid will potentially drop in ranking and I'm sure Real Madrid will climb back up in ranking and overtake Atletico madrid.

Atletico Madrid doesn't have as many fans as Real Madrid and that's why people usually wait to see Atletico Madrid lose their place in the La Liga and lose some points to let Real Madrid have a better chance. The fact about Atletico Madrid is they don't have too many investments like Real Madrid and they don't have fans like Barcelona. Maybe that's why they can hope to win the La Liga title at the end of the season.
Considering the potential n Atletico Madrid I think they don't have good players and a good coach to help this team have better performance and the main reason for Atletico Madrid to be in the first position in the La Liga table is that Real Madrid has many injured players which made this team have bad results while Barcelona has the same situation this Flick, otherwise, I think Atletico Madrid is not a strong tea to be in the first place of the La Liga table normal consider the players the have in this team.
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Never be fooled by the Valencia Vs Real Madrid match because the bookies could take advantage of the match later, because if all bets are in favor of Real Madrid then most likely everyone who bets on Real Madrid will easily win the bet or the match will end in a draw, but the ridiculous thing is that Valencina is able to win the match and everyone who bets will experience mass defeat, this could happen because the bookies have a role in the match.
This is Madrid we are talking about and they want to get points so I don't see Valencia being much of a threat to them. Heck, even if they gave Valencia one week to rest, they would still perform poorly. This is not a matter of small teams trying to prove stubborn to the bigger team or acting as a stumbling block, I see this as a clear victory for Real Madrid. Except they would want to mess up and bottle their chance.
The betting odds may make you undecided but I believe that this match will be easy for Real Madrid and then they will win.
Valencia is a team that has collected 12 points and they are almost in last place. Real Madrid is a team that aims to take the lead from Atletico Madrid again.
So Ancelotti will implement the right plan to win this match today and I think Ancelotti will not have a hard time to win today.
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Dani Olmo will stay. Dani Olmo's agent Andy Barra said in a new interview with Giumi Spurs: "Dani will stay at Barca. It is true that good offers have been received, but not everything is about money. Dani, his family, his friends and even I do not think about other options and Barca is the first and last choice." However, several clubs have asked for Olmo's transfer not to happen, but perhaps Barca's influence in La Liga will make these demands ignored. Barcelona have provided documents to resolve the financial issues and given La Liga, which may make it easier for Olmo to register. The point is that they did not do this on the last day of the year, which raises questions. This seems to have happened after the payment of the sale of the stands to Qatari investors was approved, an amount of around 100 million euros, which I think the bad management still cannot do anything with.
My own say on this is  what were their plans earlier and why is it now they are making moves , so they knew this was going to happen and they are willing to keep the young lad but yet waited for the Last minute despite knowing how they got him in the first place, they have all the time to plan it .
To me, Barcelona management  is not somehow serious with the club itself , they had all the time to do it and I know their financial status but I thought they had a plan before even thinking of getting Nicowilliams along
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Never be fooled by the Valencia Vs Real Madrid match because the bookies could take advantage of the match later, because if all bets are in favor of Real Madrid then most likely everyone who bets on Real Madrid will easily win the bet or the match will end in a draw, but the ridiculous thing is that Valencina is able to win the match and everyone who bets will experience mass defeat, this could happen because the bookies have a role in the match.


If we should judge based on statistics, the favorite team to win the match is clearly Real Madrid. This is because, if we compare their current form and even their head-to-head records, it shows that Real Madrid is likely to win the game easily. That is a fact.

However, the truth is that there is no fully assurance that Real Madrid will surely win the match, because anything can happen in football. We have seen surprising results in football every season where weaker teams defeated stronger teams.

So, I will not be surprised if Valencia luckily wins or draws against Real Madrid. But I would never bet on Valencia to win or draw against Real Madrid, as they are currently a weak team. In fact, I doubt anyone would confidently bet on Valencia to win or draw in today's match.
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Real remains the favorite even though their opponent is a strong team and Valencia is not a team like that this season, they are in the relegation zone so there is no reason for bettors to hesitate in placing their bets. La Liga is a big competition it would be ridiculous if bookies could control the final result. The reality is that this match is an opportunity for Real to occupy the top position, and Ancelotti must ensure that.

It is clear and certain that Real Madrid is far superior, we can compare the two teams have a fairly obvious gap. Whether it is from the standings or the odds presented by the bookies, the two teams have a fairly obvious gap. So no one doubts that Madrid has a big chance to win this fight, besides it is a momentum for Madrid to overtake the position occupied by city rivals Atletico Madrid. At the same time Valencia needs victory after victory to raise their ranking from the relegation zone, unfortunately it is not easy at all with their performance even though it must be paid for with hard work. But at least, efforts will be made by Valencia to improve its ranking. Well, if this match presents a match with a tough game nuance especially from the home team, I will not be surprised. Well, let's just wait when the two teams face each other on the field later.
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Today's Real Madrid will easily win against Valencia. Seeing the odds of betting, most people will bet on Real Madrid today, but if the match is a draw, most people will lose their bets. If Real Madrid is able to win this match today, it will occupy the top position of the points table. Since Real Madrid has been able to build a squad strong enough to go to the top position. Real Madrid will attack strongly today, although this match will be held at Valencia's home ground, Real Madrid is still the favorite to win. Moreover, since Valencia is currently in the relegation zone at the bottom of the points table, they will want to get out of there and try to play well. So in this match, Real Madrid must play strongly and attack enough to defeat the opposing team.
Well, personally I wouldn’t call this an easy game for Real Madrid. Playing Valencia at the Mestalla stadium surrounded by their passionate fans is always a challenge, and tricky for everyone, especially for a team fighting to avoid relegation, I believe they are going to play with all their cards. Valencia now sitting second to last, is desperate for points and enters this game under new coach Carlos who faces a baptism of fire against La Liga’s giants as well.
While Madrid, fresh off a strong run and Ancelotti strategies could go top of the table with this win and three valuable points. However, their away form with defensive lapses evident in recent games. Meanwhile Valencia has taken points in 8 of the last 10 home clashes against Madrid, with Duro and Vinicius both crucial in past encounters.  

For me I think that with all history, stakes and passion colliding this match promises to be a fun thrill one where both sides have everything to play for. If I were to set a bet as before, I would risk a good amount for Real Madrid to win the game today.
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Never be fooled by the Valencia Vs Real Madrid match because the bookies could take advantage of the match later, because if all bets are in favor of Real Madrid then most likely everyone who bets on Real Madrid will easily win the bet or the match will end in a draw, but the ridiculous thing is that Valencina is able to win the match and everyone who bets will experience mass defeat, this could happen because the bookies have a role in the match.
This is Madrid we are talking about and they want to get points so I don't see Valencia being much of a threat to them. Heck, even if they gave Valencia one week to rest, they would still perform poorly. This is not a matter of small teams trying to prove stubborn to the bigger team or acting as a stumbling block, I see this as a clear victory for Real Madrid. Except they would want to mess up and bottle their chance.
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Never be fooled by the Valencia Vs Real Madrid match because the bookies could take advantage of the match later, because if all bets are in favor of Real Madrid then most likely everyone who bets on Real Madrid will easily win the bet or the match will end in a draw, but the ridiculous thing is that Valencina is able to win the match and everyone who bets will experience mass defeat, this could happen because the bookies have a role in the match.
How does it work? or is it just speculation. Because when we talk about today bets, both teams have the same important pressure, namely Madrid needs 3 points and Valencia needs to climb past the relegation trap. In terms of team quality, Madrid is still superior and that is a fact that we can see based on the last few matches. Valencia has not been able to fully recover maybe they are really relegated. So if the scheme is like that how do bookies pressure one of them to lose in this match?
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Never be fooled by the Valencia Vs Real Madrid match because the bookies could take advantage of the match later, because if all bets are in favor of Real Madrid then most likely everyone who bets on Real Madrid will easily win the bet or the match will end in a draw, but the ridiculous thing is that Valencina is able to win the match and everyone who bets will experience mass defeat, this could happen because the bookies have a role in the match.
I think it's hard not to pick Real Madrid in that match as Ancelotti has really prepared his best squad to cripple Valencia. I don't know how far the bookies will be able to play but this is a matter of choice with a mature calculation for some people so let's enjoy the match while rolling your dice.

Bookies were in the first place not to be used to judge the outcome of a match. They given their own opinion to what they aspire to be the outcome of the match but not what the outcome will really be. I don’t think they have any control of the match once it’s been played, they just give their odds and also watch to see what the outcome will be, but whatever it may be, they’ll always want to be the smarter one to earn more in the end. Like you have said, we just have to enjoy every moment of the game and hope to see the best in the game while the better team prevails regardless of their most recent performance in other matches.
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It is important for Real to get 3 points, and Valencia is now in the relegation zone, it is clear that they are going through difficult times and it will be very difficult for them to resist Real. And Real needs points to stay as close as possible to Atletico and wait for them to make a mistake. Meanwhile, Barcelona is in trouble again, it looks like they may lose Olmo and financial problems are again negatively affecting the team. So I admit that this may affect Barcelona and Real will certainly want to take advantage of this, so they need a win today.
Both Real Madrid and Valencia need three points but for their different targets. With Real Madrid, they need three points to run with Atletico Madrid and Barcelona for La Liga title, and with Valencia it is their fight to be safely from relegation zone.

Real Madrid with better players and recent performances than Valencia, in my opinion have very good chance to win this match. Valencia have many reasons to fight for at least one point from Real Madrid but they are too weak and very likely won't get any point from this giant. They will have to find points from other opponents, not from Real Madrid and by evaluating their own capacity properly, they can make better strategy and reserve their best resources (players, energy, absense by card quota) for more important matches. More important matches mean matches that have higher chances for Valencia to have points.
Valencia resting players for winnable game? That’s the kind of strategy that keeps teams in the relegation zone. Every game counts, particularly against heavyweights like Real Madrid, when you are fighting for life. Indeed Madrid boasts the squad depth, form, and momentum. Any defender would find Vinicius and Mbappe a disaster while Bellingham runs games as he has been doing for ten years. Valencia, though, possesses something Madrid does not: desperation. And a squad can become dangerous from desperation

Here's an idea: Valencia might go all-in early with great press coverage. Shock Madrid, throw off their pace. Madrid struggles in certain gritty games; remember Rayo Vallecano from last season? It was too much for them to handle. If Valencia finds an early goal, it could rattle Madrid just enough to make this competitive. The secret is not to reserve energy. It's playing smart and optimizing what limited opportunities they will have
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Today's Real Madrid will easily win against Valencia. Seeing the odds of betting, most people will bet on Real Madrid today, but if the match is a draw, most people will lose their bets. If Real Madrid is able to win this match today, it will occupy the top position of the points table. Since Real Madrid has been able to build a squad strong enough to go to the top position. Real Madrid will attack strongly today, although this match will be held at Valencia's home ground, Real Madrid is still the favorite to win. Moreover, since Valencia is currently in the relegation zone at the bottom of the points table, they will want to get out of there and try to play well. So in this match, Real Madrid must play strongly and attack enough to defeat the opposing team.
Current standings of  Valencia drop to relegation position I think why Madrid favorable for winning the postponed match and have small odds than Valencia, but can't easily for predicting Madrid secure three points because Valencia have huge ambition return from the relegation zone and secure their position keep existing in La Liga for next season. Regarding squad releasing, Real Madrid not get problem yet because all main players on fit condition and not get injury yet.

ferland mendy have include for squad list against Valencia and looks Carlo Ancelotti have many option for left defender position side, on attacking all striker not get injury yet and we can see trio Vinicius Jr, Jude Bellingham and Kylian Mbappe will play for today match against Valencia to secure three points get back first place position.
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Today's Real Madrid will easily win against Valencia. Seeing the odds of betting, most people will bet on Real Madrid today, but if the match is a draw, most people will lose their bets. If Real Madrid is able to win this match today, it will occupy the top position of the points table. Since Real Madrid has been able to build a squad strong enough to go to the top position. Real Madrid will attack strongly today, although this match will be held at Valencia's home ground, Real Madrid is still the favorite to win. Moreover, since Valencia is currently in the relegation zone at the bottom of the points table, they will want to get out of there and try to play well. So in this match, Real Madrid must play strongly and attack enough to defeat the opposing team.
Real Madrid will thrashed Valencia tonight, I'm confident about this score. Remember, Real Madrid are in the league title race and will always crave for outstanding results. This not a game we should be worried about when it comes to Real Madrid winning. Carlo Ancelotti understands how these average oppositions operates, if they sense the fact that they can't win match, they easily go straight for draw which is always accessible and possible from their end. But for elite teams, winning games have always been their main objective and wouldn't settle for lesser goals. I can remember vividly how Real Madrid played in their previous meetings against Los Che ended 2-2 draw. It was tough game because bothsides have always remained ontop and hitting higher on emerging lines.
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Real Madrid will shift Atletico position when win versus Valencia tomorrow. but there is something doubtful if Madrid can win easily tomorrow because Valencia Home is something which is not easy to defeat Real. Estadio Mestalla is the hardest place for Real Madrid to win. During this decade, real madrid only have 29% chance to win on that stadium. there is an impression if that the stadium won't bring victory for Madrid. But, even haunted Real Madrid come with friendship, they will be welcomed because the president really helps them when it flooded the other day.

This is certainly a very important match for both of us, but i think more so for Real Madrid who now have a lot to prove.
He has to prove that he can still keep up with La Liga as the Champions League isn't going very well.
The players also have to demonstrate that they can do their job
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