La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 1623.

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Quote from: Odusko on November 15, 2023, 03:50:49 PM

Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 15, 2023, 01:31:46 PM

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Sometime, it is not all about the money that the club will spend in acquiring a player at some point if they have the conviction that the player will aid them in success in the coming days, so far so good, Barcelona have performed well in tLa la Liga last season and also they have managed to make a remarkable fit in this season and having a top player like Alvarez on the club will ve a great hight.
Looking at the money that it will cost Barcelona to acquire the players the money may be huge but what it will add to the club, and the next transfer window will show if the club will make that move or not.

Barcelona will not sign Julian Alvarez, but Xavi could pressure the club to bring in any player he wants. Barcelona is still struggling to fix its financial problems, so their main focus is quality at a more reasonable price. It's impossible to expect Barcelona to be willing to spend $80m to $100m on a player like they did on Coutinho, Dembele and Griezmann in the last few seasons right now. Barcelona is still doing quite well with some of its free and loan signings, so I guess they won't make the same mistake again.

Raphinha, Jules Kounde and Robert Lewandowski are the 3 most expensive players brought in by Barcelona in the last 2 seasons, while Barcelona only spent €3.40 million on Oriol Romeu this season. Barcelona's transfer policy has improved, so I don't see any chance of them spending hundreds of millions of dollars to bring in one player while their finances are still bad.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on November 15, 2023, 11:02:32 AM

Lewandowski did not score a goal in the 6 matches he played with Barcelona, two goals in the match against Alaves reopened his goal tally this season. That's why he's not on the list of top scorers so far, and if I'm not mistaken he also suffered an injury at the start of last season, so he missed several matches too. Jude Bellingham was unstoppable in scoring goals in his first season with Madrid, and I don't think Griezzman will be able to overtake Bellingham in the future.

The season is still very long, what needs to be avoided is injury problems, which make things worse. Competition for the list of top scorers will become increasingly fierce as the season progresses, as will the competition in the top four of the standings which is now dominated by Girona. It could be that Artem Dovbyk will continue to add to his goal tally to help Girona lead the La Liga points table.

Bellingham has shown why he’s the signing of the season with the goals he’s been banging in match in and out, Lewandowski has been out with injuries and out of top scorers tally but he could get back on his feet when he gets in form, cause he's a very good finisher that could score a brace or more in a match when he's fully in form

We’re still far way from the end of the season and there’ll sure be a fierce competition especially when Real Madrid and Barcelona get back on their feet, I think it’ll be a great season when we get half into the season, and when both Jude Bellingham and Lewandowski return I don't think any other player could be able to match their goal scoring record this season maybe Griezzman could try but it's either Lewandowski or Bellingham that could win the golden boot.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on November 15, 2023, 02:02:40 PM

I see people talking about money when discussing about Barcelona problem, honestly I think this is beyond money, Barcelona actually has a bad management system and top players are seeing that, it would be hard for Barcelona to get a top player except he is very much interested in Barcelona.
Regardless alot can be done with the players Barcelona has now, there are lots of talent in every wing but the coach is not able to manage the team, that's the problem I see in Barcelona and until Xavi Hernandez leaves the situation may just remain the same.

Yeah you are correct because irrespective of how money is very important on a survival of every team but in times of Barcelona money is not only there problem because they have a very impressive youngsters that are willing to improve if being coached properly.

The thing is that if Barcelona could utilize the players they have by developing them in other to enhance there performance it will really help the team but however the only area that need money on Barcelona team is there defense because there defense seem more week in performance so if they could buy some good defenders there defense system will be very strong.

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Quote from: Juse14 on November 15, 2023, 12:47:33 PM

Currently, Lewandowski is still the mainstay of Barcelona's front line, but if we remember his age, Lewandowski is not a mainstay or long-term solution for Barcelona's attack line. So like it or not, Barcelona has to look for a worthy replacement to replace Lewandowski in attack.
However, I think that the one who is suitable to replace Lewandowski is Alvares, who is a young player and a valuable asset for Manchester City, and is a player who is quite capable as a striker and worthy enough to be considered as a replacement for Lewandowski. Alvares, who is still relatively young, still has the opportunity to become an even more talented player.

By looking at the value of Julian Alvarez now it will be very difficult to happen because however seeing the current condition of Barcelona who are still experiencing problems in their finances bringing Alvarez is very difficult when they still limit money for player transfers in order to stabilise their cash. But indeed for the end of this season they still have to try to find new players because after all with the current situation where Ansu is on loan at Brighton and Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo who will go back to their respective clubs because of the expired loan contracts this will bring Barcelona to a crisis in attackers.
Although there are some players who can be used as options such as Ferran or Gavi still this will still be very lacking in my opinion and most likely they will still force Lewandowski who at the beginning of the season did not go well but is slowly regaining momentum in scoring goals.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 15, 2023, 01:31:46 PM

Unfortunately Barcelona won't be able to get Alvarez, since they don't have such amount of money to afford him and Man City won't want to let him go except a huge offer.
In as much as Barcelona needs a proper 9, they may try to stick with Ferran Torres as alternative till the end of the season and see how much he did improve, Fati might not be a 9 but he has been doing well on loan, he may be a good option for them later on

Sometime, it is not all about the money that the club will spend in acquiring a player at some point if they have the conviction that the player will aid them in success in the coming days, so far so good, Barcelona have performed well in tLa la Liga last season and also they have managed to make a remarkable fit in this season and having a top player like Alvarez on the club will ve a great hight.
Looking at the money that it will cost Barcelona to acquire the players the money may be huge but what it will add to the club, and the next transfer window will show if the club will make that move or not.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 15, 2023, 01:31:46 PM

Quote from: Juse14 on November 15, 2023, 12:47:33 PM

Currently, Lewandowski is still the mainstay of Barcelona's front line, but if we remember his age, Lewandowski is not a mainstay or long-term solution for Barcelona's attack line. So like it or not, Barcelona has to look for a worthy replacement to replace Lewandowski in attack.
However, I think that the one who is suitable to replace Lewandowski is Alvares, who is a young player and a valuable asset for Manchester City, and is a player who is quite capable as a striker and worthy enough to be considered as a replacement for Lewandowski. Alvares, who is still relatively young, still has the opportunity to become an even more talented player.

Unfortunately Barcelona won't be able to get Alvarez, since they don't have such amount of money to afford him and Man City won't want to let him go except a huge offer.
In as much as Barcelona needs a proper 9, they may try to stick with Ferran Torres as alternative till the end of the season and see how much he did improve, Fati might not be a 9 but he has been doing well on loan, he may be a good option for them later on

Barcelona is Barcelona and as such they always go for best irrespective of circumstances. If Alvarez is what Barcelona needs to get their ship sailing then I think they would definitely go for him with everything they have not minding the asking price of Manchester city. though they(Barcelona) seems to be facing some financial constraints at the moment but I think they are alot more better now than some two or three years back when they couldn't lure in big players as a result of financial constraints, but they are getting out of that situation gradually and very soon they would start having big player in the locker room, as it used to be some decades ago.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on November 15, 2023, 02:02:40 PM

I see people talking about money when discussing about Barcelona problem, honestly I think this is beyond money, Barcelona actually has a bad management system and top players are seeing that, it would be hard for Barcelona to get a top player except he is very much interested in Barcelona.
Regardless alot can be done with the players Barcelona has now, there are lots of talent in every wing but the coach is not able to manage the team, that's the problem I see in Barcelona and until Xavi Hernandez leaves the situation may just remain the same.

If you're right, then I don't think Barcelona won the La Liga title last season by 10 points from Real Madrid. Barcelona has managed its team very well and they have started to find a good way in managing their finances since Laporta became President. Whatever you think, even Real Madrid were not as good as they were last season.

Even though I am a Real Madrid fan, I do not underestimate Barcelona and the way they manage their team. Real Madrid is strong because they have everything they need, including money, while Barcelona is better because they are able to turn several of their academy players into stars. I can't hide this fact, even Barcelona could compete fiercely with Real Madrid when they experienced a financial crisis.

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Quote from: Juse14 on November 15, 2023, 12:47:33 PM

Currently, Lewandowski is still the mainstay of Barcelona's front line, but if we remember his age, Lewandowski is not a mainstay or long-term solution for Barcelona's attack line. So like it or not, Barcelona has to look for a worthy replacement to replace Lewandowski in attack.
However, I think that the one who is suitable to replace Lewandowski is Alvares, who is a young player and a valuable asset for Manchester City, and is a player who is quite capable as a striker and worthy enough to be considered as a replacement for Lewandowski. Alvares, who is still relatively young, still has the opportunity to become an even more talented player.

This transfer does not appear feasible to me because of how valuable and important Alvarez is to Manchester City. When it comes to moving him to Barcelona, they need a lot of money because of his age and how valuable he will be to them for a long time. Let's consider another option for that position if Lewandowski leaves but not Alvarez. Barcelona should invest in young players for the future of the club rather than old players who will not last long with them.

Quote from: BIT-BENDER on November 15, 2023, 02:02:40 PM

Regardless alot can be done with the players Barcelona has now, there are lots of talent in every wing but the coach is not able to manage the team, that's the problem I see in Barcelona and until Xavi Hernandez leaves the situation may just remain the same.

Do you believe Xavi Hernandez is to blame for all of their current problems, or do you believe they simply lack the right players to fill those positions? To some extent, I believe they still have good players to play with for the time being, but they must consider the club's future, particularly the striking role, which is crucial to every team.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on November 15, 2023, 02:27:22 PM

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Barcelona has a significant player deficiency. Even though Lewandowski is in the forward area, I don't think he will be as good in a few years. Barcelona is missing a young and effective striker. Alvarez would be a great alternative, but there just isn't enough money to buy him. Manchester City is an important team and they have a star like Haaland, but I still do not think they will let Alvarez go.

As others have said, Barcelona must do something good in the long term by bringing in a capable center forward. I also feel that Alvarez is a player who fits what Barcelona expects, especially in terms of quality, but Alvarez is a mainstay player who costs a lot to sign. Barcelona cannot afford to do it in the near future because they are more focused on improving their financial condition instead of spending a lot of money on expensive players who do not guarantee success.

Lewandowski can still be expected so far, but Barcelona certainly must have capable reserve players so that their performance can be in line with the plan. Lewandowski is old and definitely prone to injury, so Xavi needs to think about other players so he can replace him when he is injured.

Barcelona don't have enough money to buy key players and I don't think Guardiola will try to sell Alvarez because he is very good and is helping the club if Manchester City sell the boy he will be hard to get better player like him and he will affect the club in summer, Barcelona need to sell some of there players if they want to buy Alvarez because they won't sell him for a low price because the boy is skilled and talented and I am sure if he comes to Barcelona he will enjoy playing there and win many trophys and awards.

Barcelona needs to acquire players since some of its current players are getting older and they need to bring in new players in order to perform effectively. Lewandowski has started to play poorly after returning from injury, and I believe he will not win the Golden Boot this season since he is not scoring goals like he did last season I believe Bellingham or Griezman will win the Golden Boot because both are playing well.

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Yes, he is still very young. So at that age, we also enter the age of puberty where the peak periods of ego are still very visible. So I personally prefer not to make the problem too big. Besides, Lewandowski sometimes does the same thing. Unless Yamal keeps making these mistakes over and over again and makes his team lose. But I think these young players will understand it as time goes by. Because you already have good skills. he just has to learn more about the importance of cooperation and restrain his ego more for the good and victory of the club.

Barcelona will only improve in preformancs if the players are cooperative and I've watched tough games with both players having issues and facing difficulty interacting with each other. Lamine Yamal is still very young and promising, he's open to golden opportunities in his path but he has to obey his senior colleagues who are already experienced because if he want to go far in his football career, he will make preparation on becoming new a better version of himself. However everything will be resolved and also expects the best results to come clean.

They will slowly start to develop those attributes with time and experience. Of course other experienced players has to chime in and try to give them their expert opinions and the player also should be willing to take in those advices. Barcelona are building their squad and developing these youn players. Naturally there will be some slight upsets due to mistakes but in future they will create a very strong team if they go down this road. Manager just has to make sure that these young players start to coordinate with the team and play a team game instead of being selfish.

Xavi is one of the best coaches in this regard. He can add young players to the team and take them to a great level. The young players he has brought to Barça so far prove this. Along with Real Madrid, they are one of the best teams in Spain and have the best infrastructure. Barcelona will have a young and very strong squad in La Liga, Spain, in a few years.

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Quote from: Renampun on November 15, 2023, 01:57:40 PM

Lewandowski is still one of the best strikers at the moment, and I am also very sure that he will still be able to have a career of up to 2 years or more at Barcelona, when he wants to retire, he will definitely be bought by a Saudi Arabian club lol. However, dependence on Lewandowski will have a bad impact on Barcelona, they must be able to have a replacement for Lewandowski because Lewandowski could be injured in the next match so it would be a bad thing if Barcelona were dependent on Lewandowski.

But the issue of Lewandowski going to Arabia a few weeks ago was very popular. I'm not sure that Lewandowski will be able to last another two years at Barcelona considering that Barcelona is currently in a financial crisis. Maybe the option of selling Lewandowski to Arabia next season is the choice that Barcelona will take. On the other hand, Lewandowski's age is also increasing so that will have an effect on his performance.

But note that Barcelona must find a replacement for Lewandowski as quickly as possible because Barcelona must compete with Real Madrid without their striker having difficulty scoring goals, especially since strikers like Lewandowski are very difficult to find.

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Quote from: Renampun on November 15, 2023, 01:57:40 PM

Lewandowski is still one of the best strikers at the moment, and I am also very sure that he will still be able to have a career of up to 2 years or more at Barcelona, when he wants to retire, he will definitely be bought by a Saudi Arabian club lol. However, dependence on Lewandowski will have a bad impact on Barcelona, they must be able to have a replacement for Lewandowski because Lewandowski could be injured in the next match so it would be a bad thing if Barcelona were dependent on Lewandowski.

A good replacement for lewandoski is a very smart idea that the Barcelona team needs to buy into at this moment because dependency on lewandoski who happens to be an injury prone player at this moment will really have a negative effect on their performance on the long run.

Lewandoski has been a very good striker for Barcelona and ever since he arrived Barcelona, except for times he was injured, he has been at his very best. Now that he happens to be injury prone, if he wants to retire from the Barcelona probably after two years just like you did said, going to the Arabian side would be a good one but I think he's definitely going to have a drop in value because they aswell know what it means that he is injury pron and mind you the reason these Arab men do try getting all these big names to their league is for business purposes so if he isn't looking good for business, it's definitely going to affect his value.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on November 15, 2023, 02:18:47 PM

...City is an important team and they have a star like Haaland, but I still do not think they will let Alvarez go.

They surely will not. He is a versatile player who can replace Halland a center forward, and can also replace Debruyne in the middle of the pitch and take to both positions like a duck to water. He is creative and young meaning he will cost so much for any team that wants to sign him and City will only consider a deal if the player is willing to leave.

Guardiola is not a coach that holds on to players who want to leave, but he will do his bit to keep you content with the team especially if you are a mainstay in the club.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on November 15, 2023, 02:18:47 PM

Barcelona has a significant player deficiency. Even though Lewandowski is in the forward area, I don't think he will be as good in a few years. Barcelona is missing a young and effective striker. Alvarez would be a great alternative, but there just isn't enough money to buy him. Manchester City is an important team and they have a star like Haaland, but I still do not think they will let Alvarez go.

As others have said, Barcelona must do something good in the long term by bringing in a capable center forward. I also feel that Alvarez is a player who fits what Barcelona expects, especially in terms of quality, but Alvarez is a mainstay player who costs a lot to sign. Barcelona cannot afford to do it in the near future because they are more focused on improving their financial condition instead of spending a lot of money on expensive players who do not guarantee success.

Lewandowski can still be expected so far, but Barcelona certainly must have capable reserve players so that their performance can be in line with the plan. Lewandowski is old and definitely prone to injury, so Xavi needs to think about other players so he can replace him when he is injured.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 15, 2023, 01:31:46 PM

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Currently, Lewandowski is still the mainstay of Barcelona's front line, but if we remember his age, Lewandowski is not a mainstay or long-term solution for Barcelona's attack line. So like it or not, Barcelona has to look for a worthy replacement to replace Lewandowski in attack.
However, I think that the one who is suitable to replace Lewandowski is Alvares, who is a young player and a valuable asset for Manchester City, and is a player who is quite capable as a striker and worthy enough to be considered as a replacement for Lewandowski. Alvares, who is still relatively young, still has the opportunity to become an even more talented player.

Unfortunately Barcelona won't be able to get Alvarez, since they don't have such amount of money to afford him and Man City won't want to let him go except a huge offer.
In as much as Barcelona needs a proper 9, they may try to stick with Ferran Torres as alternative till the end of the season and see how much he did improve, Fati might not be a 9 but he has been doing well on loan, he may be a good option for them later on

Barcelona has a significant player deficiency. Even though Lewandowski is in the forward area, I don't think he will be as good in a few years. Barcelona is missing a young and effective striker. Alvarez would be a great alternative, but there just isn't enough money to buy him. Manchester City is an important team and they have a star like Haaland, but I still do not think they will let Alvarez go.

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Quote from: asriloni on November 14, 2023, 08:20:21 PM

The selfish players are only making the situation even worse. They are always wasting the chance that can be converted into the goals. This is also happening in the most of young players. They cna't even work properly with their team mates caused by what they are thinking is about how to scoring.
You are true if yamal's selfishness was reminding me of some players in manchester united. They were always shooting by himself instead of pass it to their teammates to scoring.

They aer caring for their team will not win the game. I saw this many times in rashford. The bad thing of young players are their ego is still making them feel they can be so selfish. This is why the young players need to be mentally educated properly.
It's to make sure they know that if scoring with beatiful gameplay without being selfish was also very good.

Yamal needs to reduce his ego. The better if yamal try to seek more experience instead of scoring.

Selfishness naturally in any phase of life isn’t a good thing, when you take it to team work where you have to work and play as a team, it’s very bad and could cause the team a whole lot, I think young players need to learn this and know they need one another to get the team to glory, and the manager is in the best position to call them to order when they're doing the wrong thing that might affect the progress of the team.

Team work breeds Team success and makes the team formidable, Yamal needs to learn on team play and team growth so that him to will grow as a player and have some awards and credits to his name, else he might end up losing trust from his coach and teammates on the pitch which could end up keeping him on the bench for a long time.

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I see people talking about money when discussing about Barcelona problem, honestly I think this is beyond money, Barcelona actually has a bad management system and top players are seeing that, it would be hard for Barcelona to get a top player except he is very much interested in Barcelona.
Regardless alot can be done with the players Barcelona has now, there are lots of talent in every wing but the coach is not able to manage the team, that's the problem I see in Barcelona and until Xavi Hernandez leaves the situation may just remain the same.

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Unfortunately Barcelona won't be able to get Alvarez, since they don't have such amount of money to afford him and Man City won't want to let him go except a huge offer.
In as much as Barcelona needs a proper 9, they may try to stick with Ferran Torres as alternative till the end of the season and see how much he did improve, Fati might not be a 9 but he has been doing well on loan, he may be a good option for them later on

Just wait until January or in the next transfer window, Barcelona will announce one of its phenomenal Brazilian strikers. Barcelona hasn't done anything in a hurry since Xavi took charge of them as coach, but Barcelona tends to do it carefully and doesn't force them to bring in expensive players as long as they don't have enough budget.

I don't see a critical situation in Barcelona's current attacking list, but it's true that if they could have players who are experienced and have good goal statistics, then Barcelona would be better. The problem is that they have to adjust their desires to their financial capabilities, especially when they have a low spending limit.

Barcelona just doesn't have the money and it's not about being careful, because if Barcelona had the money and didn't have financial problems, Barcelona would certainly bring in the players they wanted. Therefore, in the last transfer window Barcelona were only able to bring in players who were on free transfers and thus, Barcelona only got senior players or old players. So for me it is clear, Barcelona is still recovering financially and hopefully, with the players it has at the moment it can give good results to the team and slowly recover the situation of the team as a whole and that takes time.

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Quote from: Avirunes on November 15, 2023, 01:53:47 PM

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Without a question, Barcelona has a lot of young talent, but I'm not sure how they'll handle their strikers. Lewandowski isn't getting any younger, so they need to start getting someone ready to take his place. They should make it a top priority to get a young, fast scorer who can learn from Lewandowski while he's still on the field. With Gavi and Pedri in the middle, the center looks strong, but the attack needs a future star. Catalonia's future looks bright if Xavi can pull this off.

Yeah they do need a striker but I feel despite the age Lewandowski is doing a great job. So I think Lewandowski still can give 2-3 years more and that's an ample amount of time to find a young and potential striker. Even if they are unable to develop such player they can always look into the market for such player. It's too early to look for striker yet. Lewandowski is fit and is in form so not an alarming sign for Barca to look for striker yet.

Lewandowski is still one of the best strikers at the moment, and I am also very sure that he will still be able to have a career of up to 2 years or more at Barcelona, when he wants to retire, he will definitely be bought by a Saudi Arabian club lol. However, dependence on Lewandowski will have a bad impact on Barcelona, they must be able to have a replacement for Lewandowski because Lewandowski could be injured in the next match so it would be a bad thing if Barcelona were dependent on Lewandowski.

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Quote from: slapper on November 15, 2023, 12:29:04 PM

Without a question, Barcelona has a lot of young talent, but I'm not sure how they'll handle their strikers. Lewandowski isn't getting any younger, so they need to start getting someone ready to take his place. They should make it a top priority to get a young, fast scorer who can learn from Lewandowski while he's still on the field. With Gavi and Pedri in the middle, the center looks strong, but the attack needs a future star. Catalonia's future looks bright if Xavi can pull this off.

Yeah they do need a striker but I feel despite the age Lewandowski is doing a great job. So I think Lewandowski still can give 2-3 years more and that's an ample amount of time to find a young and potential striker. Even if they are unable to develop such player they can always look into the market for such player. It's too early to look for striker yet. Lewandowski is fit and is in form so not an alarming sign for Barca to look for striker yet.

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