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Honestly I got surprised that Barcelona lost to Atletico Madrid in their home, it's very surprising for me because I taught Barcelona wouldn't want to allow that to happen. This felt like Barcelona may begin their possible set back, usually after the loss of a game teams usually do begin to suffer more losses because they have their mind probably messy.
What do you expect from a manager whose tactics was noticed and it is obvious that the team rely on some certain players especially Lamine Yamal, and if he is not in the field, they do find it difficult to win games?

I also didn’t expect Atletico Madrid to win, and I didn’t expect them to lose either because I know who Semione is despite the fact that Barcelona had some good record against them in their last five games, I was very sure that they can’t lose the game, and with their form at that moment, I knew they will do their best to win the game and they did it at last.

Flick and Barcelona are in the verge of losing their chance of winning the Laliga because people still believed in them, I think Hensi Flick should act fast in order to correct some mistakes and to provide permanent solution to their defensive problems.
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Barcelona with their young squad was going to lose points after a while and they did, but I didn't expect them to lose so many points in such a short period of time.
Many people comment like that because that is the reality on the ground. Barcelona is increasingly having difficulty finding their best form in the last few matches, of course because their squad is incomplete and the conditions are tiring. Some players must feel tired because of the large match schedule, not to mention having to be absent due to injury.

I think Real Madrid will also lose points unexpectedly this season. With the performances of Barcelona and Real Madrid, it is very difficult for them to be champions in La Liga this season. If Atletico Madrid turns this opportunity in their favor, they will be the champions of La Liga this year. Experienced coach Diego Simeone has to make the most of this opportunity in front of him and he has a good chance this season to become the champion of La Liga again after 4 years.
All teams, including Real Madrid, will most likely lose some points in the remainder of the season. Even if it's not impossible, I think other teams also need a win to continue their plans for next season. Even the bottom teams are sometimes very motivated to snatch a win or at least 1 point, so the match will be very competitive for them. Fortunately, La Liga starts a long time ago, so all teams will definitely prepare everything well.
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Barcelona don't have the funds to buy world class players, they couldn't keep Messi in their team earlier maybe because they didn't have the funds. Barcelona is a traditional club but their biggest problem at the moment is their financial problems and they are in debt, which has led them to sell many of their best players in the past. Since then, Barcelona have been a much weaker team without those best players and now they can't perform as well as they used to.
Barcelona is facing race against time as they are still having few quality players with things are manageable, but their mindset is going down badly with recent poor results we can watch how terribly they are playing, but we can expect them fight back, but few things are surely going to have serious impact finances are also going worst with now Dani Olmo saga is gone against them which is also huge problem they needed to fix few things before it has more terrible consequences.

As media reports are coming we can have some changes with few big names are ready to leave club which will help them for having improve their finance's situation but still if they are going to bring few new players then surely they need to work on their finance's situation because if it's not going to stable then surely moral will be not improve.
After starting the season so well, we did not expect such a bad performance from Barcelona in the middle of the season. I can't figure out the reason behind the poor performance. The players they started the season with are now in the squad and no players have been injured so they have been performing poorly recently. 

I think they should change their plan and take every match very seriously. If Barcelona plan match-by-match, taking each match seriously, maybe they can be a little more successful with this strategy. However, in which position the team will play against which team and in what format they will play all this depends on the manager. But I hope the manager will definitely adopt the right strategy for the needs of the team.

You can expect this from any team, it happened to Manchester City this season, I think it's temporary, just the mood of the team has dropped or they are testing new tactics that they can't get used to, but they don't change it. Actually there are a lot of options, but not all is lost yet. Yes, they lost the first place in the league, maybe they won't get it back, but they are still in the Champions League6 let's see how they will perform there further
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The result of the Barcelona vs Atletico Madrid match is one of those results that the best team on the pitch lost to the worst team. Barcelona were visibly the better team in that game and dominated most parts of the game. Barcelona also created more goalscoring opportunities but weren't clinical enough to convert but Atletico Madrid were able to convert two of the very few chances they created.
I agree with you that Atletico Madrid was very lucky to leave Camp Nou with three points but wether they won by luck or not, what actually matters at the moment is that they're the current league leaders
Honestly I got surprised that Barcelona lost to Atletico Madrid in their home, it's very surprising for me because I taught Barcelona wouldn't want to allow that to happen. This felt like Barcelona may begin their possible set back, usually after the loss of a game teams usually do begin to suffer more losses because they have their mind probably messy.
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Atletico is good at playing defensive game, and they understand that is what they will use as an edge against Barcelona if they want to share points, but luckily for them, they were able to make proper use of the opportunity they had on the last minute to make that make the difference through that counterattack when it came. This was how Barcelona lost the match in a painful way because it affected their position on the table.

Honestly, Atletico Madrid are known for their defensive pattern, and it always helps them. They really understand the pattern, and it always favors them. It is always hard for Atletico Madrid to concede many goals, and that is the reason why they are likely to win or draw games.

The same boring scheme for Simeone in the last few seasons but for now it seems like they are a little out of the habit because for this season they very rarely use defensive scheme patterns on several occasions because they are for this season especially in the last few matches they always do a very good domination that makes them always able to gain momentum in every match that is done.

It's very different from Atletico last season where they only tried boring schemes and waited for the opponent to lose concentration to win which in the end it just didn't make them develop even though they still remained in the top standings but the goal ratio last season and this season is actually very different.
Now they are strong because of their attacking and dominating schemes so they don't often concede the ball because it's different from before who always only did the bus parking scheme especially when meeting with opponents who were balanced or even stronger than them.


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Atletico is good at playing defensive game, and they understand that is what they will use as an edge against Barcelona if they want to share points, but luckily for them, they were able to make proper use of the opportunity they had on the last minute to make that make the difference through that counterattack when it came. This was how Barcelona lost the match in a painful way because it affected their position on the table.

Honestly, Atletico Madrid are known for their defensive pattern, and it always helps them. They really understand the pattern, and it always favors them. It is always hard for Atletico Madrid to concede many goals, and that is the reason why they are likely to win or draw games.

This match between Atletico and Barcelona was a match where I would just say Atletico was lucky. If not, they did not deserve to win because Barcelona played better than them. In fact, throughout the first half, Atletico was not even able to make any scoring attempts, either off target or on target. It was only in the second half that they improved and created some chances. Seriously, they were lucky that those chances were converted into goals.In fact, after Atletico equalized the goals, I thought the match would end in a draw, not knowing that a last-minute goal was coming for Atletico Madrid.
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Barcelona with their young squad was going to lose points after a while and they did, but I didn't expect them to lose so many points in such a short period of time. I think Real Madrid will also lose points unexpectedly this season. With the performances of Barcelona and Real Madrid, it is very difficult for them to be champions in La Liga this season. If Atletico Madrid turns this opportunity in their favor, they will be the champions of La Liga this year. Experienced coach Diego Simeone has to make the most of this opportunity in front of him and he has a good chance this season to become the champion of La Liga again after 4 years.
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I just don’t know but Barcelona didn’t outclass Atletico Madrid to me but rather they fell right into the Atletico Madrid game plan, Simeone before the match stated that they would find solution to Barcelona high line football of setting offside by not attacking and from the line up that’s exactly what he came to do at the Nou Camp, this game was similar to the year Madrid knocked out Manchester city outta the champions league by allowing the Pep guardiola team to have more of the ball then. This time around Barcelona didn’t utilize their chance and that made Atletico Madrid plan perfect. For team to win silverware you need to approach games differently or switch pattern when the first one isn’t going your way but that wasn’t the case with Barcelona and that’s why they lose to even clubs in the bottom half
As a team with a strong defense, I think Diego Simeone can experiment to make it difficult for Barcelona to score goals throughout the match while taking advantage of gaps to counterattack. It was a good strategy to beat Barcelona and Diego Simeone really applied it in the match against Barcelona.

Atletico Madrid could have conceded more goals in that match if Raphinha, Lewandowski and Pedri had maximized their opportunities, but it failed because Atletico Madrid was too strong in defense. I said it was a draw, but the biggest regret for Barcelona was giving Alexander Sorloth space in the final few minutes and he scored the winner.
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It has become clearer by the day that, Barcelona needs financial help to sign key players that will continue to take the team to its glory. Selling the team's key players doesn't solve the issue at hand, rather it makes it worse

Selling some key players that can give them good capitals can be better than keeping them and be paying them huge salary that makes the club to go broke. They can sell and buy quality players that wouldn't be put on high wages. Barcelona are in financial crisis and it wouldn't help them if they don't sign quality players to keep the hopes of winning the league and also to do well in the champions league. There has to be some players currently at Barcelona that aren't contributing too much to the success of the club and letting them go, will ease the burden of high salaries is one of the ways that Barcelona can make things easy on them.
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The result of the Barcelona vs Atletico Madrid match is one of those results that the best team on the pitch lost to the worst team. Barcelona were visibly the better team in that game and dominated most parts of the game. Barcelona also created more goalscoring opportunities but weren't clinical enough to convert but Atletico Madrid were able to convert two of the very few chances they created.
I agree with you that Atletico Madrid was very lucky to leave Camp Nou with three points but wether they won by luck or not, what actually matters at the moment is that they're the current league leaders

I just don’t know but Barcelona didn’t outclass Atletico Madrid to me but rather they fell right into the Atletico Madrid game plan, Simeone before the match stated that they would find solution to Barcelona high line football of setting offside by not attacking and from the line up that’s exactly what he came to do at the Nou Camp, this game was similar to the year Madrid knocked out Manchester city outta the champions league by allowing the Pep guardiola team to have more of the ball then. This time around Barcelona didn’t utilize their chance and that made Atletico Madrid plan perfect. For team to win silverware you need to approach games differently or switch pattern when the first one isn’t going your way but that wasn’t the case with Barcelona and that’s why they lose to even clubs in the bottom half

Barcelona does well in the game because they have many chances that will turn into goals, but they miss them, which is why they struggle to add goals. Unfortunately, Athletico Madrid play a very defensive game, and he favors them, giving them the opportunity to win and achieve three points with them. Barcelona needs to be serious, and Flick needs to change his strategy because if he continues like this, I don't think they will have any opportunity to win any trophys this season, because am be expecting them that they will achieve the laliga tittle with how they start the season with a very good performance, but unfortunately they have started losing form and making there players getting injured in the patch. Barcelona still have a good opportunity of topping the laliga this season if they can repair there self am sure they can win the league because Real Madrid as not yet comeback fully and the league as not yet finished they can lose some games. Let see how the competition will be after the holiday.
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Atletico is good at playing defensive game, and they understand that is what they will use as an edge against Barcelona if they want to share points, but luckily for them, they were able to make proper use of the opportunity they had on the last minute to make that make the difference through that counterattack when it came. This was how Barcelona lost the match in a painful way because it affected their position on the table.

Last minutes goals are more painful because there will be no more time for you to get a comeback on try and get yourself back into the game. Barcelona and Atletico Madrid really played a very tough match that day but it was on the home side to take more advantage of the opportunity and get a win when they needed to, it has now affected their position on the table and has given the away team the chance to sit more comfortable on top of the standings.

Barcelona had the earliest opportunity in this season to maintain the first place on the table while other teams were not opportune and were not consistent in their winnings. Barcelona should at least try and get back in form and not play with important matches like this that they need to win in situations like this. It may be hard to get back on top but there is nothing now worth trying and see if they can get back on track soon again.
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Honestly, I do not see "worse" with Flick compared to Xavi's last season. As everyone can see from the stats, when Barcelona won the league of course Xavi was doing good, but the reason he was fired because he didn't do so well last season and he wasn't really good with management neither, that is why they fired him, he even wanted to resign before he got fired, so the team basically decided if Xavi doesn't want them, they do not want him.

Flick isn't doing that bad compared to last season of Xavi, and I believe if he could go back to how they started this season then they could lead again. If they could go six out of six again, they would lead the league I am sure, because both Madrid teams would lose points eventually.
In as much as Barcelona are experiencing financial difficulties that is gradually affecting their performance, I’m of the opinion that Hansi Flick is a upgrade to Xavi Hernandez last season performance. Hansi Flick has brought more dynamism to Barcelona’s playing style and has also instilled confidence into the players making them better than what we saw under Xavi’s management last season.

The reason Xavi was fired was not because of the team's poor performance and results, but because Xavi made a statement that made the club owner dislike him. So, if you think Xavi's dismissal was because of performance, then that is a mistake because after all,the dismissal also happened after signing a new contract. That means, the owner is still satisfied with Xavi's performance but unfortunately, Xavi made a statement that hurt Barcelona's finances, which made Xavi have to get fired even though he had just signed a new contract at that time.

Also, if you compare him to Hansi Flick then indeed, at least Xavi was not that bad in his first season at Barcelona but even so, Hansi Flick was not too bad either. At least, they  just need to succeed in maintaining their consistency to stay at the top of the standings but unfortunately, that is a difficult task  and target for Barcelona.
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Even though Atletico will eventually get resistance from Barcelona or Madrid, so far we have seen them show extraordinary performance in the competition. Atletico is not as good as Madrid and Barcelona in goal productivity, but at least for now, they are the team that has received the least defeats. That is what makes Atletico worthy of participating in the competition for the La Liga trophy this season.

The difference in points for each team in the top 4 standings I think is not too far, and it is still very possible for them to compete for the trophy considering there are still many matches left. I hope Barcelona is no longer depressed with their condition, as well as Madrid who can be more consistent. That will make the competition more interesting.

Unless they fail to win their games with the minority, Barcelona and Real Madrid is not there problem. If they meet again in the second leg and they lose but win there remaining matches, there is nothing absolutely going to change their stand in the table, they will grow old winning this season La Liga trophy, Barcelona and Real Madrid wouldn't be able to do anything but if eventually their second leg doesn't improved, either Barcelona or  Real Madrid will take it.

At the beginning of the season, I was rooting for Barcelona to take the league which of course everything went well but their games after they finish and embarrass Real Madrid, there subsequent matches after that was horrible, too much pain that even affected their position in the Champions League but they were able to overcome that but La Liga is very difficult to pass for them, this it's either they brace up to meet other tough teams that are dragging the place with.
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Barcelona don't have the funds to buy world class players, they couldn't keep Messi in their team earlier maybe because they didn't have the funds. Barcelona is a traditional club but their biggest problem at the moment is their financial problems and they are in debt, which has led them to sell many of their best players in the past. Since then, Barcelona have been a much weaker team without those best players and now they can't perform as well as they used to.
Barcelona is facing race against time as they are still having few quality players with things are manageable, but their mindset is going down badly with recent poor results we can watch how terribly they are playing, but we can expect them fight back, but few things are surely going to have serious impact finances are also going worst with now Dani Olmo saga is gone against them which is also huge problem they needed to fix few things before it has more terrible consequences.

As media reports are coming we can have some changes with few big names are ready to leave club which will help them for having improve their finance's situation but still if they are going to bring few new players then surely they need to work on their finance's situation because if it's not going to stable then surely moral will be not improve.
Earlier in the season, when the Barcelona team had a good performance, I thought that the financial problems they faced were no longer affecting the team morale to give a good performance, neither did I know that it would come back hitting hard on them to flop to their previous performance when Xavi was their coach.

It has become clearer by the day that, Barcelona needs financial help to sign key players that will continue to take the team to its glory. Selling the team's key players doesn't solve the issue at hand, rather it makes it worse
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The result of the Barcelona vs Atletico Madrid match is one of those results that the best team on the pitch lost to the worst team. Barcelona were visibly the better team in that game and dominated most parts of the game. Barcelona also created more goalscoring opportunities but weren't clinical enough to convert but Atletico Madrid were able to convert two of the very few chances they created.
I agree with you that Atletico Madrid was very lucky to leave Camp Nou with three points but wether they won by luck or not, what actually matters at the moment is that they're the current league leaders

I just don’t know but Barcelona didn’t outclass Atletico Madrid to me but rather they fell right into the Atletico Madrid game plan, Simeone before the match stated that they would find solution to Barcelona high line football of setting offside by not attacking and from the line up that’s exactly what he came to do at the Nou Camp, this game was similar to the year Madrid knocked out Manchester city outta the champions league by allowing the Pep guardiola team to have more of the ball then. This time around Barcelona didn’t utilize their chance and that made Atletico Madrid plan perfect. For team to win silverware you need to approach games differently or switch pattern when the first one isn’t going your way but that wasn’t the case with Barcelona and that’s why they lose to even clubs in the bottom half
When was the last time Barcelona lost in possession? It has been a long time since Pep Guardiola's hands until his replacement coach, Barcelona's possession of the ball has not changed, this pattern has become their trademark, so it is natural that in the match ATM lost in terms of controlling the field or opportunities because if a team controls the field the opportunities created will also be many. However, in terms of effectiveness, ATM clearly won, besides their victory was not just a matter of luck, there was a fighting spirit that they put out in the match. Simeone is a coach with a fast counter-attack pattern, does not care about the percentage of the team, the most important thing is to be effective, one shot one goal.
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In this match, Atletico Madrid had good luck, because the goal that allowed them to bring home 3 points was successfully created in the final minutes of the match. And actually if you look at the match statistics, Barcelona dominated the match more, but that alone was not enough to make them win the match. This is the 3rd defeat for Barcelona in the last 5 matches, they have only been able to achieve 1 win. Now their situation is reversed with 2 other clubs, namely Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid who have just beaten them. Barcelona must immediately return to winning ways if they do not want to fall further behind.
The result of the Barcelona vs Atletico Madrid match is one of those results that the best team on the pitch lost to the worst team. Barcelona were visibly the better team in that game and dominated most parts of the game. Barcelona also created more goalscoring opportunities but weren't clinical enough to convert but Atletico Madrid were able to convert two of the very few chances they created.
I agree with you that Atletico Madrid was very lucky to leave Camp Nou with three points but wether they won by luck or not, what actually matters at the moment is that they're the current league leaders
Atletico Madrid was able to get a win against Barcelona which I was really happy about, it did actually expect Barcelona to really pressed them after all they are in a good form but rather unfortunately inconsistent. Atletico Madrid is now topping the league with one match outstanding and same as Real Madrid in order to have the same match played as Barcelona. After some years I think we are actually having the three horses race of ATM, Barcelona and Real Madrid again.

Indeed the game against ATM for Barcelona was really an unfortunate one for them and they will really hate the fact that they lost that game especially at Camp Nou.
That’s extraordinary. Atletico Madrid have extended their winning run to 12. And won away to Barcelona for the first time in almost 19 years. And gone top of La Liga. They were outplayed for most of the game, in truth, but they fought tooth and nail to stay in it and then found another decisive late goal.

It’s harsh on Barcelona, who were largely excellent but have now picked up only five points from the last seven league games.
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After starting the season so well, we did not expect such a bad performance from Barcelona in the middle of the season. I can't figure out the reason behind the poor performance. The players they started the season with are now in the squad and no players have been injured so they have been performing poorly recently.
Barcelona is likely to rely heavily on the performance of several of its main players in winning the match, including Raphinha, Lewandowski and Lamine Yamal. If one of these three players is not in his best form, it is very rare for Hansi Flick to break the deadlock by bringing on another player.

I remember very well when Lamine Yamal had to miss several matches, while Raphinha and Lewandowski were not good, Barcelona lost maximum points or even had to accept defeat. This means that Barcelona does not have a balanced squad depth without all its main players, while all these players are very unlikely to have a stable performance throughout the season in each match.

I think they should change their plan and take every match very seriously. If Barcelona plan match-by-match, taking each match seriously, maybe they can be a little more successful with this strategy. However, in which position the team will play against which team and in what format they will play all this depends on the manager. But I hope the manager will definitely adopt the right strategy for the needs of the team.
It would be very impressive for Barcelona if they were able to get out of this problem without good financial support. I'm not at all disappointed if Barcelona fail to win the title with as many young players as they did this season, but if they are able to do it, then it really is a great achievement.
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Barcelona don't have the funds to buy world class players, they couldn't keep Messi in their team earlier maybe because they didn't have the funds. Barcelona is a traditional club but their biggest problem at the moment is their financial problems and they are in debt, which has led them to sell many of their best players in the past. Since then, Barcelona have been a much weaker team without those best players and now they can't perform as well as they used to.
Leo Messi was one of the greatest player in Barcelona, he did so many great things in the club. Secondly, raised the club to be widely recognized because he was rare and talents explored in Europe. Every coach would crave to see Leo Messi in their team playing the number 10 role because he was the best among the best. Deliver the team when they need him and won memorable important titles in Barcelona jersey, although losing him was actually one of the big loss for the club. Currently, Barcelona facing financial struggles because the management have fail to comprehend the expenditure of the team. They're currently struggling towards making signings and we know how challenging it have been for them.

Barcelona encounter challenges. I believe Barcelona president, Joan Laporta is working on resolving the issue existed in Camp nou. He's doing everything within his reach to ensure he's knotting all nails and bringing in new faces that would served as crucial aide for the team's growth. Appointing Hansi Flick was not enough, he still have to make more selective choice to elect more enormous positions and possibilities for the club.
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The result of the Barcelona vs Atletico Madrid match is one of those results that the best team on the pitch lost to the worst team. Barcelona were visibly the better team in that game and dominated most parts of the game. Barcelona also created more goalscoring opportunities but weren't clinical enough to convert but Atletico Madrid were able to convert two of the very few chances they created.
I agree with you that Atletico Madrid was very lucky to leave Camp Nou with three points but wether they won by luck or not, what actually matters at the moment is that they're the current league leaders

I just don’t know but Barcelona didn’t outclass Atletico Madrid to me but rather they fell right into the Atletico Madrid game plan, Simeone before the match stated that they would find solution to Barcelona high line football of setting offside by not attacking and from the line up that’s exactly what he came to do at the Nou Camp, this game was similar to the year Madrid knocked out Manchester city outta the champions league by allowing the Pep guardiola team to have more of the ball then. This time around Barcelona didn’t utilize their chance and that made Atletico Madrid plan perfect. For team to win silverware you need to approach games differently or switch pattern when the first one isn’t going your way but that wasn’t the case with Barcelona and that’s why they lose to even clubs in the bottom half
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In this match, Atletico Madrid had good luck, because the goal that allowed them to bring home 3 points was successfully created in the final minutes of the match. And actually if you look at the match statistics, Barcelona dominated the match more, but that alone was not enough to make them win the match. This is the 3rd defeat for Barcelona in the last 5 matches, they have only been able to achieve 1 win. Now their situation is reversed with 2 other clubs, namely Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid who have just beaten them. Barcelona must immediately return to winning ways if they do not want to fall further behind.
The result of the Barcelona vs Atletico Madrid match is one of those results that the best team on the pitch lost to the worst team. Barcelona were visibly the better team in that game and dominated most parts of the game. Barcelona also created more goalscoring opportunities but weren't clinical enough to convert but Atletico Madrid were able to convert two of the very few chances they created.
I agree with you that Atletico Madrid was very lucky to leave Camp Nou with three points but wether they won by luck or not, what actually matters at the moment is that they're the current league leaders
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