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In my opinion, Barcelona needed to become champions and win the European Champions League to improve their financial condition, but with these bad results in the last games in La Liga, I sincerely doubt that Barcelona will become champions this season and as I am a fan of Real Madrid I am happy that Barcelona continues to be weak, that way this season we will be champions again, I think that Real Madrid's biggest problem this season will be Atlético Madrid who I don't know why they are having so much luck in winning the games
Although Barcelona wins the UCL trophy this season, I'm not sure it will fix their financial problem. Barcelona may need to have a new owner from Saudi, it is the same as Man City and PSG. When they have a rich owner, they will easily fix any financial problem. For the long run, Barcelona will also shouldn't be worried to build a bigger squad because they have no problem with the money to spend.

Yep. Even in La Liga, Barcelona couldn't beat Atletico Madrid. This simply showed the strength of current Barcelona squad. Sure, I'm also not really sure that Barcelona will have a chance to win the UCL trophy. I even doubt that Barcelona can reach the final round.  Cheesy


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Imo the win against Barcelona isn't a good win of all the win they been having back recently in their previous games, not saying they didn't deserve the win but Barcelona was just been wasteful, trying same thing they did to Barcelona could result in a good margin so they need to come up with a better strategy to balance their defence and attacking at the same time .
Hence , if they play one of their good games once again then they have a good chance against Leverkusen (from my view), let's wait for the outcome anyways but I expect a good outcome for them against  Lev....
Atletico Madrid is fighting hard for the title this season and they will try their best to win every game. Sometimes it is true that their strategy is not profitable, but in some important matches I think it works. The match against Barcelona is proof that strategy is useful, but still they will not be able to rely on the same strategy in different matches.

Apart from Real Madrid, then I think Atletico Madrid is a serious title contender this season. Barcelona is starting to struggle to get their best form recently and because of that their chances of snatching the title from Real Madrid are starting to decline. Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid both have a good chance of winning the title, but I know and recognize that Barcelona should not be underestimated.
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Now in January if we have players which are important, and they have chance to bring them surely this will bring good changes because currently situation is still not bad as we have on papers 2 and 3 points lead is recoverable while we have half of season remaining.

In my opinion, Barcelona needed to become champions and win the European Champions League to improve their financial condition, but with these bad results in the last games in La Liga, I sincerely doubt that Barcelona will become champions this season and as I am a fan of Real Madrid I am happy that Barcelona continues to be weak, that way this season we will be champions again, I think that Real Madrid's biggest problem this season will be Atlético Madrid who I don't know why they are having so much luck in winning the games
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Win against Barcelona give them good confidence and now their players are surely feeling better while they will be in good touch after this break their Champions League direct chances for going into next round are looking not good, but their game against Bayer Leverkusen is surely going to have good for them which will give them fair chance for keeping them at the better spot.
Imo the win against Barcelona isn't a good win of all the win they been having back recently in their previous games, not saying they didn't deserve the win but Barcelona was just been wasteful, trying same thing they did to Barcelona could result in a good margin so they need to come up with a better strategy to balance their defence and attacking at the same time .
Hence , if they play one of their good games once again then they have a good chance against Leverkusen (from my view), let's wait for the outcome anyways but I expect a good outcome for them against  Lev....
however, Barca's victory gives them a chance to be at the top of the standings, it's very good with the achievement of each match that is better than Barca. we know that currently, Barca is in a bad situation with some bad results that they received. although the difference in points is very small, we can see Barca receiving more defeats at this time. the competition between Madrid and Atletico will continue and we will see how strong and consistent Atletico can maintain their position.
The defeat of Barcelona just gives a chance to Atlactico Madrid to take over the league lead. Now the competition will be between them until the last match. Real Madrid is also very strong, and they are trying hard to snatch the first place from Atlatico Madrid, but Atlatico Madrid will not do anything that will give Real Madrid a chance to hold the top place of standing. Barcelona was performing in a very consistent way from the beginning, but the absence of a few recently injured players ended that consistency of Barcelona and due to this, they lost their hands from the league leading. Now the league leader is Atletico Madrid. And in second place is Real Madrid with a few points of gaps. The current performance of Atlatico Madrid is good, but we cannot say anything further that Atlatico Madrid being at the top of the league until the last match of the La Liga. Despite Real madrid are looking much stronger than them. So it is possible that Real Madrid will surpass Atletico Madrid in the upcoming day and become the league leader.
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No offence, but Atlético Madrid's performance is still good, no doubt, but one thing that I will accept from you is that the strategy that they are using in all their games has been noticed by many other teams, but still the strategy is favouring them, which means if they put a lot of effort into their performance, then they will achieve a very amazing result, even though I am sure that they will not take much time at the top of the table.

 But still, for Barcelona to make it back to the top, then a lot needs to be done because this is the opportunity that Real Madrid has been waiting for, so they will not like to lose against any of the teams that they will play with, which is the same for Atlético Madrid, so let's accept the fact that Barcelona has already been defeated.
It's fine.. Smiley
Besides, I never mentioned Athletico Madrid's performance not been good generally neither although if I'm to judge against Barcelona, it was somehow average but the diffence is solid.. all I'm insinuating on is just the strategy, it failed at some point against Barcelona  as they were dominant through out the particular game it's just that they missed all the chance they got (Barcelona).
I don't have any problem with their strategy but they need to balance it a little another just luring them to the defence all the time, in fact I added they stand a good chance to take over Leverkusen in UCL but I hope that particular strategy doesn't land them in trouble..  Smiley
Yeah, I understand your point that you are just emphasising their strategy, which is why I said that even though their strategy was noticed by Barcelona, they were still not able to equalise back in the game or even win it. Although I know that there have been enough chances, Barcelona was not that lucky.

 But talking about their game with Bayer Leverkusen in the Champions League, I will say this now: they have the best chance of winning the game if they put in more effort in their performance. So let's have less fear against their performance because Atlentico Madrid will be able to win due to the way am seeing the game.
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Honestly, I do not see "worse" with Flick compared to Xavi's last season. As everyone can see from the stats, when Barcelona won the league of course Xavi was doing good, but the reason he was fired because he didn't do so well last season and he wasn't really good with management neither, that is why they fired him, he even wanted to resign before he got fired, so the team basically decided if Xavi doesn't want them, they do not want him.

Flick isn't doing that bad compared to last season of Xavi, and I believe if he could go back to how they started this season then they could lead again. If they could go six out of six again, they would lead the league I am sure, because both Madrid teams would lose points eventually.
The reason why many people are comparing Hansi Flick achievements this season with that of Xavi Hernandez with Barcelona last season is because Hansi Flick started the season on a very good note which made the expectations of fans of the club to grow high but now in the middle of the league, the team started struggling. Xavi last season was able to garner more points after 19 games than Barcelona who had a good start to the season have managed this season under Hansi Flick.
Hansi Flick still have a lot of time to improve the team's performance and possibly help them win the league but at the moment, Barcelona is underperforming and that's not what the club fans wants from the manager
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Honestly, I do not see "worse" with Flick compared to Xavi's last season. As everyone can see from the stats, when Barcelona won the league of course Xavi was doing good, but the reason he was fired because he didn't do so well last season and he wasn't really good with management neither, that is why they fired him, he even wanted to resign before he got fired, so the team basically decided if Xavi doesn't want them, they do not want him.

Flick isn't doing that bad compared to last season of Xavi, and I believe if he could go back to how they started this season then they could lead again. If they could go six out of six again, they would lead the league I am sure, because both Madrid teams would lose points eventually.
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Since Mbappe joined Real Madrid he even had better performance than we could expect to see from this player.
Simply if you compare Ronaldo with Mbappe when they joined Real Madrid you can understand the performance of Mbappe as even better than Ronaldo.
When Ronaldo joined Real Madrid he could only score 13 goals for this team while Mbapep scored 14 goals which meant he scored one more goal.


This comparison isn't soothing enough as the only fact in this comparison is one that i don't see complete, all the while Ronaldo was at Madrid i believe he did more than 13 goal and Mbappe achieving that mark already isn't enough to have seen him to be better than Ronaldo who won some trophies at Madrid and now Mbappe who is just new at Madrid and is yet to have won any trophy or made any spectacular record at Madrid to someone who years back has been able to set wonderful records and achieved so much at Madrid and even in other clubs, one which Mbappe had not.

Kylian Mbappe is going to succeed in Real Madrid and also become one of the legends of Real Madrid, Kylian Mbappe's performance was not good from the beginning of the season and that made some people feel like he could succeed in the team but he proved to them wrong and start playing well, he misses some opportunity that will make win some games but he steps up and do what every player will do to make the team and the fans believe that he is still the Mbappe that the team sign.

Kylian Mbappe's situation makes us understand that we should be patient with players when they are not performing well, Kylian Mbappe has scored many goals and the season just started which shows that he can do more than that, Kylian Mbappe has 14 goals already and before the season end I believe it will be more than 20 goals and if care is not taking he will win the La Liga top goals scorer of the season.
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No offence, but Atlético Madrid's performance is still good, no doubt, but one thing that I will accept from you is that the strategy that they are using in all their games has been noticed by many other teams, but still the strategy is favouring them, which means if they put a lot of effort into their performance, then they will achieve a very amazing result, even though I am sure that they will not take much time at the top of the table.

 But still, for Barcelona to make it back to the top, then a lot needs to be done because this is the opportunity that Real Madrid has been waiting for, so they will not like to lose against any of the teams that they will play with, which is the same for Atlético Madrid, so let's accept the fact that Barcelona has already been defeated.
It's fine.. Smiley
Besides, I never mentioned Athletico Madrid's performance not been good generally neither although if I'm to judge against Barcelona, it was somehow average but the diffence is solid.. all I'm insinuating on is just the strategy, it failed at some point against Barcelona  as they were dominant through out the particular game it's just that they missed all the chance they got (Barcelona).
I don't have any problem with their strategy but they need to balance it a little another just luring them to the defence all the time, in fact I added they stand a good chance to take over Leverkusen in UCL but I hope that particular strategy doesn't land them in trouble..  Smiley
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If Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid manage to secure full points in their respective postponed matches, it will be increasingly difficult for Barcelona to reclaim the top of the La Liga standings. I think recruiting new players so that Barcelona can get additional energy seems difficult to realize, because Barcelona is still not free from financial difficulties.
The opportunity for Barcelona to overtake one of the two Madrid teams will occur when Real Madrid plays Atletico Madrid on the condition that Barcelona no longer experiences defeat in every match that will be played.
Hansi Flick does not need to force his players to target trophies at the end of the season, just by telling his players not to make mistakes in every match and always try hard with complete unity.
Barcelona players are good and not much different from other players. I'm sure it will work.
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despite the challenges Barcelona players experience from some teams, they are still leading in the la Liga league competition which there is a hope for them to recover from the challenges and start displaying what they where displaying from the beginning of this season. I think, Barcelona head coach will definitely work on that to make the team to start performing well again to withstand their opponents to embrace points that will make their gap higher than any other teams in the la Liga league table. If not the injuries Barcelona players experience from some matches, what do you think would have made them to experience all those challenges, they where able to defeated Real Madrid and other strong teams to prove to people how serious they are to win the title before the injury started happening to their players which is the caused of the poor performance currently.
Injuries and inconsistency surely going to have huge impact on their performance because in early rounds things were under control and all players were having good chance with suddenly we have few problems which bring their moral down, and now they are facing terrible time which bring them to the 3rd spot now we have good noise about few changes which are essential with few good players are going to leave club which are surely just because they are facing finances issues for long time.

Now in January if we have players which are important, and they have chance to bring them surely this will bring good changes because currently situation is still not bad as we have on papers 2 and 3 points lead is recoverable while we have half of season remaining.
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Interestingly, Real Madrid will play earlier in 2025 against Valencia. And if Real Madrid are able to win this match, then they will shift Atletico who are at the top of the standings. However, keep in mind that just like Real Madrid, Atletico have also only played 18 matches, so if Real Madrid manages to top the standings, then at any time Atletico can reclaim the top position.

Am even seeing Atletico Madrid as who will take over the mantle of leadership at the top of the table because Real Madrid are in same difficult situation as Barcelona and even if they manage to top the league, it won't be long that they will get dethroned. Atletico appears more prepared than Real Madrid and Barcelona so even if Real Madrid wins Valencia, Atletico will also win their opponent and still sit at the top of the league table.

and regarding Barcelona, ​​​​they are also not too far behind, where there is only a difference of 2 points with Real Madrid and only 3 points with Atletico, so if they are able to return to winning ways, Barcelona can still compete tightly for the top position. However, if Barcelona is unable to return to winning ways, then at any time Atletico Bilbao could shift Barcelona's position considering that the difference in points between Bilbao and Barcelona is not too far, where there is only a difference of two points.

Barcelona may have just gotten themselves in a very tight situation now and it can take them longer time to recover because the competition for the league title is very tensed now. Athletico Bilbao have been very consistent lately so am afraid they can overtake Barcelona any moment because they are more stable and can continue with their awesome performance for a long time.
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Actually Barcelona does not need to make a big transfer and stay focused with better players on defense. Because what I see today Barcelona has weaknesses that are clearly visible in defenses that are starting to lose consistent.
So that in this way Barcelona does not need to recruit expensive players on the attack line or middle midfielder.
When Barcelona's finances are in a bad condition but Barcelona has a lot of experience that becomes the strength to maintain the current performance and reputation conditions even though only with ordinary players.
And we'll see how well the new coach will bring new players in the transfer market later and I am curious whether the coach is able to know what he should do.

They need a defender who can fill in if one of their players is injured or his performance is declining, that's why Flick has said it on several occasions after they suffered a defeat. so as you said, Barcelona does not need a major overhaul especially in January. besides that, Flick also needs to review his tactics and strategies, because in several matches their opponents have begun to overcome the pattern he has implemented. however, Barcelona can still start to get back on track, after all La Liga still has many matches until the end of the season. these three teams are only separated by a small difference in points, although Madrid and Atletico have one postponed match. the upcoming matches will be even more exciting, and the team that slips must be willing to be overtaken or the other team widens their points gap. this is exciting, what's more exciting is that Madrid and Barca must definitely improve their performance, because if not Atletico Madrid can increasingly become a team that continues to occupy the top position in the La Liga standings.
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Win against Barcelona give them good confidence and now their players are surely feeling better while they will be in good touch after this break their Champions League direct chances for going into next round are looking not good, but their game against Bayer Leverkusen is surely going to have good for them which will give them fair chance for keeping them at the better spot.
Imo the win against Barcelona isn't a good win of all the win they been having back recently in their previous games, not saying they didn't deserve the win but Barcelona was just been wasteful, trying same thing they did to Barcelona could result in a good margin so they need to come up with a better strategy to balance their defence and attacking at the same time .
Hence , if they play one of their good games once again then they have a good chance against Leverkusen (from my view), let's wait for the outcome anyways but I expect a good outcome for them against  Lev....

Somehow Atletico managed to beat Barcelona despite the fact that Barcelona dominated the match played at home. But in the end Atletico still managed to get three points and make Barcelona then overtaken by two teams at once Atletico and Real Madrid. With results like that, it is certainly a slightly bad situation for Barcelona because it will be difficult to return to the top of the standings.

But about Atletico, basically maybe I will still consider that Atletico will still finish under Real Madrid and Barcelona. But, for Atletico's next match in the Champion League against Bayer Leverkusen,  of course this will be a difficult match, because at the same time also that Bayer Leverkusen is currently in a good trend too. Because anyway, Bayer Leverkusen and Atletico still have a chance  to qualify for the next round.
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Win against Barcelona give them good confidence and now their players are surely feeling better while they will be in good touch after this break their Champions League direct chances for going into next round are looking not good, but their game against Bayer Leverkusen is surely going to have good for them which will give them fair chance for keeping them at the better spot.
Imo the win against Barcelona isn't a good win of all the win they been having back recently in their previous games, not saying they didn't deserve the win but Barcelona was just been wasteful, trying same thing they did to Barcelona could result in a good margin so they need to come up with a better strategy to balance their defence and attacking at the same time .
Hence , if they play one of their good games once again then they have a good chance against Leverkusen (from my view), let's wait for the outcome anyways but I expect a good outcome for them against  Lev....
however, Barca's victory gives them a chance to be at the top of the standings, it's very good with the achievement of each match that is better than Barca. we know that currently, Barca is in a bad situation with some bad results that they received. although the difference in points is very small, we can see Barca receiving more defeats at this time. the competition between Madrid and Atletico will continue and we will see how strong and consistent Atletico can maintain their position.
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Win against Barcelona give them good confidence and now their players are surely feeling better while they will be in good touch after this break their Champions League direct chances for going into next round are looking not good, but their game against Bayer Leverkusen is surely going to have good for them which will give them fair chance for keeping them at the better spot.
Imo the win against Barcelona isn't a good win of all the win they been having back recently in their previous games, not saying they didn't deserve the win but Barcelona was just been wasteful, trying same thing they did to Barcelona could result in a good margin so they need to come up with a better strategy to balance their defence and attacking at the same time .
Hence , if they play one of their good games once again then they have a good chance against Leverkusen (from my view), let's wait for the outcome anyways but I expect a good outcome for them against  Lev....
No offence, but Atlético Madrid's performance is still good, no doubt, but one thing that I will accept from you is that the strategy that they are using in all their games has been noticed by many other teams, but still the strategy is favouring them, which means if they put a lot of effort into their performance, then they will achieve a very amazing result, even though I am sure that they will not take much time at the top of the table.

 But still, for Barcelona to make it back to the top, then a lot needs to be done because this is the opportunity that Real Madrid has been waiting for, so they will not like to lose against any of the teams that they will play with, which is the same for Atlético Madrid, so let's accept the fact that Barcelona has already been defeated.
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It makes sense as you say. Because actually the tik flick tactic is right, it's just that the players who run it still have minimal experience and Barcelona is filled with many ambitious young players. The proof is that Flick's tactics at Bayern Munich are the same but why is it better at Bayern Munich, the tactics even work well. This is all because the players who run it at that time were in their best form and also mentally experienced. What Barcelona is facing now is natural because it is filled with young players, maybe next season Barcelona will be more mature because Flick needs time and process to build a strong squad.

If we talk about statistics by comparing it with the previous coach, then it will not be comparable if we only look at it from the point of view. because Xabi is not good in European competitions while Barcelona has been good in the UCL league so far. The problem is, Xavi has no plan for the match in his second year, Xavi has no other plan and doesn't know how to play this team to make it stronger, all he does is complain and find reasons to have young players, and this is the reason why Xavi was fired. On the other hand, Hansi has a plan and the only reason Barcelona are dropping points easily at the moment is because of the lack of finishing, maybe this will be Flick's main job at Barcelona.
I would say the "need" was fabricated though, or at least there isn't an improvement. Nobody is saying (or maybe some do) Xavi was far better, but that's not the point, you can say Xavi was far better or not, but the point is Flick isn't far better, nobody can deny that the statistics at every part of the game is out there, and it's clear that Xavi wasn't much worse, so if they fired Xavi, then you should get someone much better who can get much better results. And the worst part?

Flick started awesome, six of six wins, and now he has only 38 points, which shows that for the past two months, he has been terrible beyond anything Xavi did. So lets assume firing Xavi was reasonable, which I think wasn't, even if they wanted someone else, Flick isn't the one obviously.
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League matches have ended for 2024. The league will be closed and running effectively on January 11 except for the postponed match Real Madrid vs Valencia on January 4. Barcelona, who looked convincing at the beginning, was very bad in several matches. Barcelona was not able to play well. Flick seems to have to add to the team's layup and mentality during this New Year's break. Taking advantage of the transfer market option is a good option, but I'm not sure it's full of Barcelona's financial condition in good health. There are still many matches and there are still many opportunities for Flick. I don't think Laporta will fire Flick anytime soon.

Interestingly, Real Madrid will play earlier in 2025 against Valencia. And if Real Madrid are able to win this match, then they will shift Atletico who are at the top of the standings. However, keep in mind that just like Real Madrid, Atletico have also only played 18 matches, so if Real Madrid manages to top the standings, then at any time Atletico can reclaim the top position.

and regarding Barcelona, ​​​​they are also not too far behind, where there is only a difference of 2 points with Real Madrid and only 3 points with Atletico, so if they are able to return to winning ways, Barcelona can still compete tightly for the top position. However, if Barcelona is unable to return to winning ways, then at any time Atletico Bilbao could shift Barcelona's position considering that the difference in points between Bilbao and Barcelona is not too far, where there is only a difference of two points.
The competition in the Champions League zone is getting tighter, and it is very likely to continue until the end of the season. Psychologically, Barcelona is becoming more and more pressured due to a series of bad results in the last few matches, they have to drop to third place in the standings and in the future have the potential to be overtaken by Atletic Bilbao. Therefore, Hansi Flick must immediately find a solution to make Barcelona appear consistent again like at the beginning of the season.

If Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid manage to secure full points in their respective postponed matches, it will be increasingly difficult for Barcelona to reclaim the top of the La Liga standings. I think recruiting new players so that Barcelona can get additional energy seems difficult to realize, because Barcelona is still not free from financial difficulties.
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Win against Barcelona give them good confidence and now their players are surely feeling better while they will be in good touch after this break their Champions League direct chances for going into next round are looking not good, but their game against Bayer Leverkusen is surely going to have good for them which will give them fair chance for keeping them at the better spot.
Imo the win against Barcelona isn't a good win of all the win they been having back recently in their previous games, not saying they didn't deserve the win but Barcelona was just been wasteful, trying same thing they did to Barcelona could result in a good margin so they need to come up with a better strategy to balance their defence and attacking at the same time .
Hence , if they play one of their good games once again then they have a good chance against Leverkusen (from my view), let's wait for the outcome anyways but I expect a good outcome for them against  Lev....
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Interestingly, Real Madrid will play earlier in 2025 against Valencia. And if Real Madrid are able to win this match, then they will shift Atletico who are at the top of the standings. However, keep in mind that just like Real Madrid, Atletico have also only played 18 matches, so if Real Madrid manages to top the standings, then at any time Atletico can reclaim the top position.
and regarding Barcelona, ​​​​they are also not too far behind, where there is only a difference of 2 points with Real Madrid and only 3 points with Atletico, so if they are able to return to winning ways, Barcelona can still compete tightly for the top position. However, if Barcelona is unable to return to winning ways, then at any time Atletico Bilbao could shift Barcelona's position considering that the difference in points between Bilbao and Barcelona is not too far, where there is only a difference of two points.
Barcelona now has no alternative but to return to winning ways. Currently, a loss in any match could change their position. There is only a 2-point gap between Barcelona and Athletic Club, and an 8-point gap with Villarreal, although Villarreal has played 18 matches, one fewer than Barcelona. If Villarreal earns 3 points in their next match, the point gap between them and Barcelona would shrink to just 5, with the same number of matches played. This means Barcelona cannot afford to lose any more matches.

If Barcelona wishes to take advantage of the transfer market, their financial situation will also be a factor. However, if they can recover in the new year, they still have a chance to reach the top position. This is because they still have several matches to play, and the point gap with Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid is not too wide. The maximum point difference in a similar number of matches could be 5 or 6 points. But currently, the gap is only 2 and 3 points, with Atlético and Real Madrid having played one match fewer than Barcelona.

In the coming days, we will see a competition for the top spot between Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid, with Atlético slightly ahead. However, just one match could change the outcome of this rivalry.
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