La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 273.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on November 11, 2024, 11:39:04 AM

I was also not happy with VAR decision on canceling the goal yesterday because it is obvious and many people are criticizing them for that, but we can’t fight technology since the technology judge the case; however, it is just that me mistake, I am sure the Laliga referee body will address the decision letter because it was controversial and many people including me need explanation.

Barcelona remain the favorites to win Laliga this season because they have good squad more than Real Madrid, and Hensi Flick is a good coach, but his decision of benching some of his start players will keep affecting his performance because this is the second time this is happening when he benched Lamont Yamal.

Honestly, I think he just wants to avoid literally what just happened, injuries. He does put players in bench quite often when he thinks the opponent isn't as strong, and he believes even a few bench players in would be fine, after all he is not making full squad rotation, he keeps most of the main squad in there, just bench a few players and he hopes to avoid injuries due to getting fatigue from playing so many games.

This sort of didn't work out in the end for this one, because not only the players were injured, both Yamal and Lewandowski got injured, but also Barcelona lost the game as well. I am not really expecting the same to happen again though, this is a rare sight and I am pretty sure that we are not going to see this again neither. I believe the best way to move forward for them would be just ignore this loss, and focus on the future. They had so many great games so far, specially the most recent Real Madrid game, they need to remember who they are.

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Quote from: W Jr. on November 11, 2024, 02:19:05 PM

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If Real Madrid wins the match they are missing, they will reduce the point difference to three. This means a difference of only one win. If Real Madrid can win consistently until the end of the season, the point difference with Barcelona will definitely be closed. Because Barcelona also lost points against Real Sociedad. These results show that they can experience surprise point losses. Real Madrid needs to evaluate this very well.

Barcelona unexpectedly lost points again when they were really favorites to win the match. Their performance in the away game against Real Sociedad was very unusual, of course I saw it very differently. They failed to build much of an attack and this was very unusual compared to many of their previous matches. Pedri and all the other players including Raphinha were not in their best form throughout the match and this is clearly because Sociedad has a good defense.

Losing 3 points in week 13 makes the points gap between Barcelona and Real Madrid increasingly narrow, meaning that Real Madrid has automatically reduced the points gap with Barcelona by 3 points now. Real Madrid has 1 match in hand and it could be used perfectly to reduce the points gap with Barcelona again. If in the end Real Madrid wins, then the gap between the two teams will only be 3 points, but I think Barcelona will improve in the next match, especially after the international break.

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Quote from: ginsan on November 10, 2024, 04:09:50 PM

The first half ended with a good result for Sociedad and of course this is a very good thing for them especially with a 1-goal lead now they just have to focus on the second half with the same scheme and hope that their concentration does not break down.

What Sociedad did in the first half was very good where the scheme that only relied on fast counter-attacks that were carried out when the Barcelona players were off guard had a positive impact on them and indeed this was the only way for them at this time facing Barcelona who were very good in dominance problems.

But in this case as you said because now with 1 goal behind, of course Barcelona will try more because after all, Flick is currently in a condition that does maintain momentum so they will try their best to make the result a point for them. I think this should be watched by Sociedad now because seeing from what Flick always does in terms of schemes sometimes they always show unexpected things especially their productivity in the last few matches always looks very good.

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I am actually very amazed to see Barcelona lose the match. Because thought Barcelona was actually going to win this match and create a bigger point difference with Real Madrid. But now they have basically given Real Madrid a chance to catch up to Barcelona. And it really amazing to see Barcelona having so much of possession of the ball but still unable to have a single shot on target. I think we all agree that Barcelona have played this match pretty poorly. The second loss of Barcelona even though they are at the top of the table. The Catalan giants has to improve their performance in the next match. They know that they cannot make these kinds of mistakes when they are going for the La Liga title. They have to get three points from these matches and they cannot even drop points, let alone lose the match.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on November 11, 2024, 02:14:08 PM

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This was definitely not what was expected of Barcelona, losing to sociedad made no sense at all. The gap in theory is still six points, but Real Madrid is missing one game, meaning the gap could be as low as three points.

Out of nowhere, Barcelona handed life to Madrid for no reason at all. They should have kept winning and considering the level of talent they were playing against, I would say beating these teams should be the most important part, I am not really seeing them do anything better, shouldn't have been the case. I believe the best way to improve at the moment would be just realizing things are going to get tougher, with players missing (while most of it would be on break) they also need to make sure they are dealing with these injuries while still getting points. One more loss, and they are tied with Madrid and that's not acceptable when you got six points ahead, and even beat them 4-0 as well. They need to do better and this loss was a terrible one.

Barcelona have played very well in the last few matches. And won every match by a big margin. So naturally we were waiting to see Barcelona win against Real Sociedad. But Barcelona lost the match by 1-0. More importantly, the Barcelona players could not make a single on-target shot in this match. I would say this is Barcelona's biggest failure.

There is no doubt that Barcelona lost this match against the tactics of Real Sociedad. Real Sociedad's goal in this match was probably to get 1 point. Real Sociedad was tactical from the start of the match. And because of excellent match strategy, Real Sociedad was able to win against Barcelona. However, expect Barcelona to make a comeback very quickly. Hansi Flick is not under too much pressure as the top spot in the table is still occupied by Barcelona.

I never thought Barcelona would lose points in this match. I thought the match would be very high-scoring and Sociedad would score goals and therefore there would be at least 3 goals in the match, but I was wrong. Barcelona has been playing very good football and scoring a lot of goals in recent matches. This match was also expected, but they managed to surprise everyone.

Big clubs have strange points losses like this. Sociedad got much more than they wanted. It is very difficult to get points from Barcelona in the league, but they did it. Barcelona surprised its fans, but Sociedad deserved 3 points with their game.

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Quote from: W Jr. on November 11, 2024, 02:19:05 PM

If Real Madrid wins the match they are missing, they will reduce the point difference to three. This means a difference of only one win. If Real Madrid can win consistently until the end of the season, the point difference with Barcelona will definitely be closed. Because Barcelona also lost points against Real Sociedad. These results show that they can experience surprise point losses. Real Madrid needs to evaluate this very well.

The situation cannot only be calculated like mathematics like this because after all the season will still continue and sometimes in 1 season in some conditions the increase and decrease in performance can be a natural thing so for now the gap of 6 points and Madrid which still leaves 1 match that only has to be maximized well by them because after all it is an opportunity.

But on the other hand, for half of the season it is usually more visible in the end the decline and increase in performance especially towards the end of the season so this must be used as momentum. If in the end Madrid still want to defend their trophy this season then as much as possible they should be able to maintain consistency which at the beginning of this season did not go well. Chances are still very much there and the gap of 6 points in the remaining matches that are still a lot of it clearly shows that the opportunity is still great. For Barcelona they are now also still very good but the defeat against Sociedad with the rotation of players and minus on target in 1 match can also be a note because it could happen again in the upcoming match.

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This was definitely not what was expected of Barcelona, losing to sociedad made no sense at all. The gap in theory is still six points, but Real Madrid is missing one game, meaning the gap could be as low as three points.

Out of nowhere, Barcelona handed life to Madrid for no reason at all. They should have kept winning and considering the level of talent they were playing against, I would say beating these teams should be the most important part, I am not really seeing them do anything better, shouldn't have been the case. I believe the best way to improve at the moment would be just realizing things are going to get tougher, with players missing (while most of it would be on break) they also need to make sure they are dealing with these injuries while still getting points. One more loss, and they are tied with Madrid and that's not acceptable when you got six points ahead, and even beat them 4-0 as well. They need to do better and this loss was a terrible one.

Barcelona have played very well in the last few matches. And won every match by a big margin. So naturally we were waiting to see Barcelona win against Real Sociedad. But Barcelona lost the match by 1-0. More importantly, the Barcelona players could not make a single on-target shot in this match. I would say this is Barcelona's biggest failure.

There is no doubt that Barcelona lost this match against the tactics of Real Sociedad. Real Sociedad's goal in this match was probably to get 1 point. Real Sociedad was tactical from the start of the match. And because of excellent match strategy, Real Sociedad was able to win against Barcelona. However, expect Barcelona to make a comeback very quickly. Hansi Flick is not under too much pressure as the top spot in the table is still occupied by Barcelona.

If Real Madrid wins the match they are missing, they will reduce the point difference to three. This means a difference of only one win. If Real Madrid can win consistently until the end of the season, the point difference with Barcelona will definitely be closed. Because Barcelona also lost points against Real Sociedad. These results show that they can experience surprise point losses. Real Madrid needs to evaluate this very well.

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Quote from: bitgolden on November 11, 2024, 01:46:45 PM

This was definitely not what was expected of Barcelona, losing to sociedad made no sense at all. The gap in theory is still six points, but Real Madrid is missing one game, meaning the gap could be as low as three points.

Out of nowhere, Barcelona handed life to Madrid for no reason at all. They should have kept winning and considering the level of talent they were playing against, I would say beating these teams should be the most important part, I am not really seeing them do anything better, shouldn't have been the case. I believe the best way to improve at the moment would be just realizing things are going to get tougher, with players missing (while most of it would be on break) they also need to make sure they are dealing with these injuries while still getting points. One more loss, and they are tied with Madrid and that's not acceptable when you got six points ahead, and even beat them 4-0 as well. They need to do better and this loss was a terrible one.

Barcelona have played very well in the last few matches. And won every match by a big margin. So naturally we were waiting to see Barcelona win against Real Sociedad. But Barcelona lost the match by 1-0. More importantly, the Barcelona players could not make a single on-target shot in this match. I would say this is Barcelona's biggest failure.

There is no doubt that Barcelona lost this match against the tactics of Real Sociedad. Real Sociedad's goal in this match was probably to get 1 point. Real Sociedad was tactical from the start of the match. And because of excellent match strategy, Real Sociedad was able to win against Barcelona. However, expect Barcelona to make a comeback very quickly. Hansi Flick is not under too much pressure as the top spot in the table is still occupied by Barcelona.

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Quote from: irhact on November 11, 2024, 11:27:48 AM

For the first time this season Barcelona couldn't score any goal and couldn't get any shot on target. Barcelona controlled the ball for the most part of the match yet they didn't cause any threat to Real Sociedad. Yamal's absence was felt in the game as he would have worked his usual magic and would have provided an assist for the goal to equalize or win the match. Barcelona shouldn't throw away this lead that they have against Real Madrid for the title as Real Madrid isn't going to continue being as poor as they're playing and when they get in form, the competition is going to become tougher. Barcelona still has and advantage as they have 6 points although it might be 3 when Real Madrid plays.

Barcelona tried to rotate by playing some young players who they thought were suitable for projection and were given more opportunities but indeed the results were not too expected because although possession was not even less than 70 percent but in the end it seemed that momentum and playing time made a difference because indeed in 11 shots taken there was not even 1 on target that Barcelona had in this match.

But on the other hand we also can't blame it because seeing from the game that Sociedad did of course they played very well where they were very disciplined and their focus for 90 minutes was not lost even though they were heavily attacked by Barcelona in this match.

The minor result after Barcelona's impressive performance did not make them falter because this seems to be only used as an arena for them to forge young players and despite the unfavorable results, Barcelona remains comfortably at the top for now.

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This was definitely not what was expected of Barcelona, losing to sociedad made no sense at all. The gap in theory is still six points, but Real Madrid is missing one game, meaning the gap could be as low as three points.

Out of nowhere, Barcelona handed life to Madrid for no reason at all. They should have kept winning and considering the level of talent they were playing against, I would say beating these teams should be the most important part, I am not really seeing them do anything better, shouldn't have been the case. I believe the best way to improve at the moment would be just realizing things are going to get tougher, with players missing (while most of it would be on break) they also need to make sure they are dealing with these injuries while still getting points. One more loss, and they are tied with Madrid and that's not acceptable when you got six points ahead, and even beat them 4-0 as well. They need to do better and this loss was a terrible one.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 11, 2024, 12:45:04 PM

In my opinion, Barcelona, along with Liverpool, the most in-form team in Europe right now. Therefore, their loss to Real Sociedad last night was a big surprise for me. Barcelona is still leading La Liga, but if Real Madrid wins, they’ll close the gap to 3 points. I believe that if Lewandowski's disallowed goal early in the match had counted, Barcelona would have won.

Both Liverpool and Barcelona are seriously in form and it will take a master class from any team to beat them both but in football regardless of your form if you switch off then you get beaten. Just like yesterday and also against Osasuna Barcelona went off and they think they could come back but couldn’t. This goal from Lewandowski is what typical top clubs like Barcelona have been benefiting off from this mid clubs today they are at the receiving end themselves. I want Real Madrid to win so that they can close the gap and make the league a bit competitive but Real Madrid injury crisis is looking like it will make them not ready to competite

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Quote from: LGD2Business on November 11, 2024, 11:24:53 AM

It was a dramatic result, but they were going to lose somewhere. With a glorious start, they came here breaking records with matches full of goals. Barca didn't score for the first time. Although Lewandowski's goal was clean, but VAR didn't give it. They will learn from this match and move on, they are still the favorites in all competitions this year. This defeat was just a road accident.
Now, with the international break, it's a good opportunity to recover from injuries. Both Yamal and Lewandowski should be able to return without missing too many games. If these injuries had come during the busy fixture schedule, they could have been a problem, but now they have a good time to rest and recover.

The biggest surprise in Spain was Barcelona's defeat this week. The cancellation of Lewandowski's position was also talked about a lot. This loss of points is a great chance for Real Madrid. Because Barcelona would have won three points in this match according to many. However, since they could not win three points, the point difference between them and Real Madrid has decreased. Real Madrid is now about to catch up with Barcelona again. An important turning point has been turned for the championship.

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And the bad news again, this time not only Lamine Yamal but also Lewandowski. Based on the latest news from Barcelona update, Lamine Yamal is certain, he will be absent for approximately 2 or 3 matches, due to a grade 1 high right ankle sprain.

While unfortunately, Lewandowski also suffered a lower back injury, although fortunately not too severe. But at least he will be absent for approximately 10 days. They are both the same, in the next few matches, Barcelona will be in a pretty precarious position without their two key players.

Source: FC Barcelona update injury

Lamine Yamal and Robert Lewandowski have been very integral to the success of Barcelona this season so losing both players to injury at the same time will definitely have a negative effect on the team. Yesterday, we saw how the Catalonian club was defeated at Real Sociedad which ended their six-game winning and I think that happened because Lamine Yamal was absent in that game.
Unlike Real Madrid who has majority of their first team players sidelined for a long time, Barcelona players will not be out for long and that I think is the positive side of the injuries to the club's players. Hopefully, Robert Lewandowski will be fit to feature for the club after the international break

The loss that Barcelona suffered yesterday shows a whole lot of importance of Lamine Yamal and Robert Lewandoski, truth they have been of great importance to the improvement and growth of Barcelona lately and their performance this season can be side to have taken a good shape with the help of both players which has contributed so much for the team this season. The news has it that both players will only be absent from playing in just few games but then the next game of Barcelona will also be affected in their gap of 3 points may be closed by Real Madrid whose players that are injured are gradually returning back from injury hopefully Yamal and Lewandoski gets better soon to keep helping the Barcelona team.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 10, 2024, 11:58:40 AM

Barcelona are going to play in one of the difficult away games against Real Sociedad in the La Liga this week. After Real Madrid's big win yesterday evening Barcelona wouldn't like to make any mistake. Even though I think Barcelona will win the game, I expect many goals also. This is why it would make more sense for me to bet on over 3.5 goals.

I expected Barcelona to struggle against Real Sociedad, but I still anticipated a lot more goals in this game. It was incredibly unlucky that Lewandowski’s goal was disallowed right at the start. I knew Real Sociedad had a strong defense, but it never crossed my mind that they would finish the game without conceding a goal.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on November 11, 2024, 06:37:34 AM

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When I saw the final result I immediately remembered what you said, Grin

in fact Sociedad got lucky because Lewandowski goal was disallowed due to a very very slight offside and somehow this had to backfire considering VAR is increasingly disturbing. The worst possibility it happens and Barcelona loses 3 points, Barcelona's 2nd defeat makes a 6-point gap from Madrid and if Blaugrana loses 1 more time, Madrid can catch up.

Relying on an old player like Lewandowski, Barcelona will have to pay high cost in later months of season when Lewandowski loses his best fitness and his performances will consequently be down too.

Barcelona are relying on Yamal too and without Yamal, we see that they lacked of many attacking ideas in this match. Losing 1 - 0 makes a lot of regret and makes their fans thinking that they can have one point from Sociedad. In fact, if Sociedad players finish better, they would win this match bigger, not only win it minimally.

Lewandowski quality this season is far beyond expectations, he has become the most dangerous spearhead in Barcelona front line since being handled by Hansi Flick. He has scored 14 goals in La Liga, a far cry from his rival who is in second place in the top scorers list. Lewandowski also managed to score a goal against Real Sociedad, but it was disallowed because the VAR referee misidentified Aguerd shoe which looked like Lewandowski shoe.

Lamine Yamal was not involved for the first time this season when his team faced Sociedad, Barcelona's winning percentage when Yamal played as a starting line up in La Liga this season is 100%, while Barcelona winning percentage without Lamine Yamal is 0%. Despite his young age, his influence on the team is huge.

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Quote from: hahay on November 11, 2024, 12:14:11 PM

To be honest, Real Sociedad is a team that is experiencing a decline this season if I compare it to previous seasons, that Real Sociedad was better in previous seasons than this season. But yes, even though Real Sociedad is experiencing a decline this season, the fact is that Barcelona still lost eventhough they had high ball possession in this match. I also didn't watch this match live, but if I consider it from the existing statistics, then even though Barcelona had high ball possession, it seems that Barcelona also played badly in this match. Or maybe, because Real Sociedad managed to play with a strong and disciplined defense line so that Barcelona had no shots on target at all. Cry

Yeah it's normal and anything can happen in every match especially when Barcelona plays away, in addition there are other factors that can affect the match I mean things that cannot be explained. I didn't watch this match and only monitor the match statistics, I think it's quite strange when Barcelona does not record any shot on target even though they control 70% of match while Real Sociedad has 14 shots and 6 of them are on target. I think Barcelona wants to give Real Madrid the opportunity to catch up with points so Barcelona missed this one match Cheesy

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In my opinion, Barcelona, along with Liverpool, the most in-form team in Europe right now. Therefore, their loss to Real Sociedad last night was a big surprise for me. Barcelona is still leading La Liga, but if Real Madrid wins, they’ll close the gap to 3 points. I believe that if Lewandowski's disallowed goal early in the match had counted, Barcelona would have won.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 11, 2024, 11:30:21 AM

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And the bad news again, this time not only Lamine Yamal but also Lewandowski. Based on the latest news from Barcelona update, Lamine Yamal is certain, he will be absent for approximately 2 or 3 matches, due to a grade 1 high right ankle sprain.

While unfortunately, Lewandowski also suffered a lower back injury, although fortunately not too severe. But at least he will be absent for approximately 10 days. They are both the same, in the next few matches, Barcelona will be in a pretty precarious position without their two key players.

Source: FC Barcelona update injury

Lamine Yamal and Robert Lewandowski have been very integral to the success of Barcelona this season so losing both players to injury at the same time will definitely have a negative effect on the team. Yesterday, we saw how the Catalonian club was defeated at Real Sociedad which ended their six-game winning and I think that happened because Lamine Yamal was absent in that game.
Unlike Real Madrid who has majority of their first team players sidelined for a long time, Barcelona players will not be out for long and that I think is the positive side of the injuries to the club's players. Hopefully, Robert Lewandowski will be fit to feature for the club after the international break

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To be honest, Real Sociedad is a team that is experiencing a decline this season if I compare it to previous seasons, that Real Sociedad was better in previous seasons than this season. But yes, even though Real Sociedad is experiencing a decline this season, the fact is that Barcelona still lost eventhough they had high ball possession in this match. I also didn't watch this match live, but if I consider it from the existing statistics, then even though Barcelona had high ball possession, it seems that Barcelona also played badly in this match. Or maybe, because Real Sociedad managed to play with a strong and disciplined defense line so that Barcelona had no shots on target at all. Cry

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Nobody expected this result to happen to Barcelona, they managed to beat Bayern Munich & Real Madrid, but got a defeat when visiting Real Sociedad's base. Barcelona just managed to dominate the match, but they failed to get even 1 point. If we look deeper into the statistics, there is a unique fact that Barcelona did not have a single shot on target.

All of the people were expecting Barcelona to win the game against Sociedad. They did it very well in first half until a crazy decision by VAR to disallow an onside goal by Lewandowski happened. The decision by VAR absolutely destroyed their mentality.

Barcelona lost their spirit to win the game after the referee and VAR have ruinted their day. If i were Bareclona's player, i might be feeling the same thing as them.

It's common when you were being cheated, then you have no intention to continue the game.

The desire to continue fighting can decrease due to VAR decisions, and Barcelona feels disadvantaged. For the first time this season, Barcelona failed to score, where previously they had done so in all matches. Statistically, Hansi Flick squad was unable to release a single shot on target, although they dominated possession up to 70%, which is indeed very surprising. Regardless of the course of the match, Real Sociedad was clearly very lucky, because with the additional 3 points, they returned to the vicinity of the European zone. Meanwhile, Barcelona defeat is clearly very advantageous for Real Madrid, as they have the opportunity to cut the point difference that has been created.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on November 11, 2024, 11:47:48 AM

I think Lewandowski's goal should have stood. He was not offside. I think the technology just got it wrong there. The officials will be too proud to admit their mistake but the goal should have stood. That is a decision that could have turned the tide of the whole game.

I believe Barcelona are not talking that much about the decision because they know they played badly. This match is easily the worst match Barcelona played this season. Hopefully they learn from it and get back to their previous form because if they don't they will be in a lot of trouble. They only have 6 points over Madrid and Madrid has a game in hand.

Overrall, I feel Barcelona fans are overratcing over the loss. Its normal for a team in form to lose a couple of matches. Even the peak Barcelona of 2009, 2011 and 2015 had a couple of shocking and unexpected defeats. Its totally normal. the problem is when they don't respond better.

It must be admitted that Barcelona were unlucky in this match. At the same time, the Barcelona players fell into the offside trap in this match. Even after Lewandowski scored, the goal was disallowed. And the confidence of the Barcelona players gradually decreased in this match. It is also true that Barcelona played badly in this match. Because in the whole match, Barcelona could not make a single shot on target. For a big team like Barcelona, this is definitely a failure.

However, Barcelona have performed well in every match this season. Barcelona unexpectedly lost against Osasuna and Real Sociedad. Hansi Flick must learn from these two mistakes. Barcelona is still 3 points ahead of Real Madrid. The top spot in the table is still occupied by Barcelona. So if Hansi Flick can correct Barcelona's mistakes, Barcelona can keep the top spot in the table.

I wouldn't say losing two matches is a big loss. Barcelona has a very busy schedule. The players are also a bit tired now. So losing points in 2/1 matches is not unusual. However, losing points in important matches could cost Barcelona big losses.

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