La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 285.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 08, 2024, 03:58:49 PM

It could be regards to Ancelotti, he sees that they are in trouble right now and he thinks that it is not the time to play some younger kids. He is right that they have a problem and the results they want is not coming these days, after losing to Barcelona, they lost to Milan as well, and the funnier part is that they were protesting Ballon D'or and didn't participated in it, and they said Vini will show the world a new level because he got angry, and the very next game they lost lol.
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Real Madrid are going through a rough patch at the moment. The defeat to Barcelona hurt, especially considering that the gap in La Liga just got wider. Their Champions League performances have not been too dominant of late, which may pile more pressure on the team. Somewhere among the players and fans, the disappointment over Ballon d'Or does echo very loudly because though quite a few players were nominated, Vinicius Jr. included, none eventually walked away with the award. And a composite of these results will be enough to surmise that the team's spirits have been dented. Ancelotti will have to come up with a fresher strategy and new tactics to get back to winning ways and raise the team once more.

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Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2024, 10:28:13 AM

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This outcome looks like easy money. It is hard to believe that Real will drop points at home to Osasuna after they lost heavily to Barcelona and Milan. To be honest, I expected a victory over Milan with about the same justification, but still, Osasuna is not Milan, so this outcome seems predetermined.

Madrid is indeed more favored in this match against Osasuna, especially since they are playing at home, but if you look at Real Madrid's recent performance, it is very doubtful that Real Madrid can win this match. This season, Osasuna has performed better than the previous season.

And seeing that Atletico Madrid only has a one-point difference with Real Madrid, so no matter what, Real Madrid must be able to win this match to catch up and secure its position in 2nd place in the standings.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 08, 2024, 04:41:50 PM

Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2024, 10:28:13 AM

This outcome looks like easy money. It is hard to believe that Real will drop points at home to Osasuna after they lost heavily to Barcelona and Milan. To be honest, I expected a victory over Milan with about the same justification, but still, Osasuna is not Milan, so this outcome seems predetermined.

This is football, anything can happen but if I am to select a winner, u can still comfortably risk my vet in Really Madrid straight winning, because the chance are higher and the book maker's knows that and that is why the odds for both clubs have high merging gap between them, but ultimately we await the match to play out well Saturday few hours from now

Real Madrid have points to protect yes, but also we shouldn't overlook the potential in Osasuna if their are both lineups to meet in the group level that speaks alot about the club and what possibility their can utilise all the time.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 08, 2024, 04:00:22 PM

Unfortunately, Real Madrid has become an unreliable team in terms of betting on them and when I see such low odds in favor of Real Madrid, I honestly think it is a big trap, firstly because the value of the odds is very low and is not worth the risk, secondly because Real Madrid's attack is very weak so there is a high risk of this game ending in a draw. That is why in my opinion I would not bet on Real Madrid and I would not put Real Madrid in my multi bet. I prefer to bet on the Barcelona game which I see has good odds and some good chance of success. Also, even though I am a Real Madrid fan, I will not watch the Real Madrid game tomorrow because they have become boring games. I prefer to watch Barcelona games.

Lol your last statement got me though hahaha... I don't know the last game of Barcelona feels boring to me though it wasn't in laliga bit was somehow boring to me I don't know if I was the only, I still find it more interesting than another games though Cheesy

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Imo Barcelona lost to osasuna with 4-2 though it was because of rotation but the rotation isn't a bad one to the extent of deserving 4 goals and at the same time they are currently on number 5 of the table, I checked their games only 2~3 clubs has managed to beat them so far then why the heck will they give such odd Cheesy

.. it's just better to avoid the risk and pretend they are likely to win it.

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Quote from: Baki202 on November 08, 2024, 04:39:16 PM

Quote from: KingsDen on November 08, 2024, 04:12:04 PM

Most times I do not understand the bookmakers how they allocate their odds. Why checking the side of Real Madrid, it is obvious that they are not in good form currently and their coach said that he has discovered the problem with Real Madrid and has fixed it, so it is expected that they will win their next match. Although this is purely theoretical.

They definitely have their one procedures that they follow when it comes putting in place all this odd and you might not know the scale at which they will set it, and the worse now is that they are not in good form so it's even making everything worse when it comes to placing a bet on Real Madrid, I don't think I will advice anyone to choose Madrid for now when they want to select a games because Madrid is not even a club that you can trust with anything for now, when it comes to betting their condition have disqualified them already.
Fixing Madrid will be next season.

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Now will also need to understand the current form of osasuna, this will enable us determine whether they can get three points from Real Madrid or they can share the points with them or at worst lose to Real Madrid.
In terms of form, Real Madrid and Osasuna are in a bracket. Winning 3, draw 1 and lose 1 in the past 5 matches. Then, Osasuna is also in the 5th position, striving to get into top 4. This could be a very interesting match.

osasuna Performance looks more stable than that of Madrid and they have more winning records than Madrid, for now untill they are able to sought their self because don't be surprise thay they will end up losing thay game and this is something that people don't even understand. And we should not be dessived by the number of odds give to Real Madrid. osasuna Trying to make it to top four will make them play Madrid hard but the situation might even change when the game starts.

The bookmakers most times play with our emotions. They play mind games and gamblers fall for it. If you recall, big teams lost in the past two weeks across all leagues. It happened to Manchester city, it happened to Arsenal, it happened to Real Madrid, Leverkusen, and also Munich. Now, no one knows wether it's gona another disappointment weekend for the big teams. Yes, it could still be underdogs week.

When bookmakers are not too sure, even after using their suffiscated algorithm, they'll tend to send uncertainty or exaggerated odds to decieve gamblers.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 08, 2024, 03:58:49 PM

It could be regards to Ancelotti, he sees that they are in trouble right now and he thinks that it is not the time to play some younger kids. He is right that they have a problem and the results they want is not coming these days, after losing to Barcelona, they lost to Milan as well, and the funnier part is that they were protesting Ballon D'or and didn't participated in it, and they said Vini will show the world a new level because he got angry, and the very next game they lost lol.

So all in all, when there are so many troubles at the club, I do not think that we are going to end up with something that will get much attention to younger players and their improvement. When you are doing great, and the team is always winning, you can give some minutes to young players, but when the team sucks, those kids will have to wait until they get better. Right now, Real Madrid do not have even one minute to spare on these kids, hence why we are not seeing them playing.

Anytime that a club run into trouble waters, either via the management, coach or even with a league, the outcome is always easy to know, because you will notice that the club performance will be on a decline level, and as a matter of fact, a major source of concern to fans, we can see that in the clubs like Chelsea in the last three seasons suffered management crisis when the club keep changing owners and even coach.

Same thing happened also with Manchester United, but then their were able to tackle their own asap, but still the impact is still very visible on the club uptil now, so one can check to see such.

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Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2024, 10:28:13 AM

When everyone is busy comparing the performance of Madrid and Barcelona, I have a question, do you believe in this match Madrid can get 3 points?
Everyone knows that Madrid has many quality players but their performance looks a little bad. For me it is not a problem because it is normal when a team has too many quality players, it certainly takes time to arrange everything to be perfect.
And I am sure in the upcoming match Madrid will prove to beat Osasuna with a bigger score difference.

This outcome looks like easy money. It is hard to believe that Real will drop points at home to Osasuna after they lost heavily to Barcelona and Milan. To be honest, I expected a victory over Milan with about the same justification, but still, Osasuna is not Milan, so this outcome seems predetermined.

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 08, 2024, 04:12:04 PM

Most times I do not understand the bookmakers how they allocate their odds. Why checking the side of Real Madrid, it is obvious that they are not in good form currently and their coach said that he has discovered the problem with Real Madrid and has fixed it, so it is expected that they will win their next match. Although this is purely theoretical.

They definitely have their one procedures that they follow when it comes putting in place all this odd and you might not know the scale at which they will set it, and the worse now is that they are not in good form so it's even making everything worse when it comes to placing a bet on Real Madrid, I don't think I will advice anyone to choose Madrid for now when they want to select a games because Madrid is not even a club that you can trust with anything for now, when it comes to betting their condition have disqualified them already.
Fixing Madrid will be next season.

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Now will also need to understand the current form of osasuna, this will enable us determine whether they can get three points from Real Madrid or they can share the points with them or at worst lose to Real Madrid.
In terms of form, Real Madrid and Osasuna are in a bracket. Winning 3, draw 1 and lose 1 in the past 5 matches. Then, Osasuna is also in the 5th position, striving to get into top 4. This could be a very interesting match.

osasuna Performance looks more stable than that of Madrid and they have more winning records than Madrid, for now untill they are able to sought their self because don't be surprise thay they will end up losing thay game and this is something that people don't even understand. And we should not be dessived by the number of odds give to Real Madrid. osasuna Trying to make it to top four will make them play Madrid hard but the situation might even change when the game starts.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 08, 2024, 04:00:22 PM

Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2024, 10:28:13 AM

When everyone is busy comparing the performance of Madrid and Barcelona, I have a question, do you believe in this match Madrid can get 3 points?
Everyone knows that Madrid has many quality players but their performance looks a little bad. For me it is not a problem because it is normal when a team has too many quality players, it certainly takes time to arrange everything to be perfect.
And I am sure in the upcoming match Madrid will prove to beat Osasuna with a bigger score difference.

Unfortunately, Real Madrid has become an unreliable team in terms of betting on them and when I see such low odds in favor of Real Madrid, I honestly think it is a big trap, firstly because the value of the odds is very low and is not worth the risk, secondly because Real Madrid's attack is very weak so there is a high risk of this game ending in a draw. That is why in my opinion I would not bet on Real Madrid and I would not put Real Madrid in my multi bet. I prefer to bet on the Barcelona game which I see has good odds and some good chance of success. Also, even though I am a Real Madrid fan, I will not watch the Real Madrid game tomorrow because they have become boring games. I prefer to watch Barcelona games.

Most times I do not understand the bookmakers how they allocate their odds. Why checking the side of Real Madrid, it is obvious that they are not in good form currently and their coach said that he has discovered the problem with Real Madrid and has fixed it, so it is expected that they will win their next match. Although this is purely theoretical.

Now will also need to understand the current form of osasuna, this will enable us determine whether they can get three points from Real Madrid or they can share the points with them or at worst lose to Real Madrid.
In terms of form, Real Madrid and Osasuna are in a bracket. Winning 3, draw 1 and lose 1 in the past 5 matches. Then, Osasuna is also in the 5th position, striving to get into top 4. This could be a very interesting match.

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Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2024, 10:28:13 AM

When everyone is busy comparing the performance of Madrid and Barcelona, I have a question, do you believe in this match Madrid can get 3 points?
Everyone knows that Madrid has many quality players but their performance looks a little bad. For me it is not a problem because it is normal when a team has too many quality players, it certainly takes time to arrange everything to be perfect.
And I am sure in the upcoming match Madrid will prove to beat Osasuna with a bigger score difference.

Unfortunately, Real Madrid has become an unreliable team in terms of betting on them and when I see such low odds in favor of Real Madrid, I honestly think it is a big trap, firstly because the value of the odds is very low and is not worth the risk, secondly because Real Madrid's attack is very weak so there is a high risk of this game ending in a draw. That is why in my opinion I would not bet on Real Madrid and I would not put Real Madrid in my multi bet. I prefer to bet on the Barcelona game which I see has good odds and some good chance of success. Also, even though I am a Real Madrid fan, I will not watch the Real Madrid game tomorrow because they have become boring games. I prefer to watch Barcelona games.

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It could be regards to Ancelotti, he sees that they are in trouble right now and he thinks that it is not the time to play some younger kids. He is right that they have a problem and the results they want is not coming these days, after losing to Barcelona, they lost to Milan as well, and the funnier part is that they were protesting Ballon D'or and didn't participated in it, and they said Vini will show the world a new level because he got angry, and the very next game they lost lol.

So all in all, when there are so many troubles at the club, I do not think that we are going to end up with something that will get much attention to younger players and their improvement. When you are doing great, and the team is always winning, you can give some minutes to young players, but when the team sucks, those kids will have to wait until they get better. Right now, Real Madrid do not have even one minute to spare on these kids, hence why we are not seeing them playing.

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Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2024, 10:28:13 AM

When everyone is busy comparing the performance of Madrid and Barcelona, I have a question, do you believe in this match Madrid can get 3 points?
Everyone knows that Madrid has many quality players but their performance looks a little bad. For me it is not a problem because it is normal when a team has too many quality players, it certainly takes time to arrange everything to be perfect.
And I am sure in the upcoming match Madrid will prove to beat Osasuna with a bigger score difference.

The chance is still very big but if Madrid still has the same performance as the previous 2 matches at the Bernabeu then even if I expect Madrid to get 3 points but it will be difficult.

Madrid have always been good on the pitch and we can see that from their possession and the quality of their attacks but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll get the 3 points.
There are still egos that Ancelotti needs to work on, attacking and finishing patterns are still problematic and most importantly the midfield imbalance must also be addressed if they are still to get the 3 points.

Against Milan in the Champions League, we can see that even though their game is quite good, when they are faced with a counterattack that is carried out when the Madrid players are busy looking for the rhythm of the attack pattern, it always has a fatal impact on the safety of their goal.
It is not impossible that this is also done by Osasuna even though in terms of their abilities they are below Madrid but when Ancelotti tries to experiment with several players and formations this could be used to Osasuna's advantage.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on November 08, 2024, 01:39:15 PM

Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2024, 10:28:13 AM

When everyone is busy comparing the performance of Madrid and Barcelona, I have a question, do you believe in this match Madrid can get 3 points?
Everyone knows that Madrid has many quality players but their performance looks a little bad. For me it is not a problem because it is normal when a team has too many quality players, it certainly takes time to arrange everything to be perfect.
And I am sure in the upcoming match Madrid will prove to beat Osasuna with a bigger score difference.

Real Madrid will defeat Osasuna without a doubt, I believe in Real Madrid no matter how bad they are playing and if we look at Real Madrid the team has faced this kind of challenge before and they bounced back and started having a good performance again, Ancelotti said it today in the Conference that he believes that Real Madrid will compete for all the trophies this season and he is going to make that happen, I think Ancelotti know the Reason why Real Madrid is having a difficult season and he decide to join some young players from the academy to the first team.

Real Madrid will defeat Osasuna And I don't think Real Madrid will lose to any team this season if not Barcelona because Barcelona is in better shape this season than any team in the La Liga league, Real Madrid needs to make some signs in January to make the squad strong, I am still not satisfied with Lucas to be Real Madrid Right back this season, he is not strong enough to hold that position.

Which this current performance of Real Madrid, I can't predict if Madrid will win the game or not, because Madrid always strongly to win matches. Even if Madrid will win the game, I believe that osasuna will give them a tough time before winning the match, and they need to win tomorrow game if they are really what to chase Barcelona in the league table, because if they just lose or draw any game, they should just leave the laliga because I don't think they will achieve it anymor But Ancelotti will do his best to win the game because he has already lost back-to-back games, and he will do anything necessary to obtain three points against Osasuna tomorrow. Let's see how the game ends. Barcelona are in a good shape, they are just scoring many goals in the league Madrid can't win the league with goal difference expect a point, because madrid can't score many goal in the laliga this season just 2 or 3 but Barcelona are just winning from 4 up word. Ancelotti have more work to do this season before they can win this league this time.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 08, 2024, 11:50:21 AM

Real Madrid are not in a good condition, and now they will face a club that is also not bad, proven by Osasuna being in 5th position in La Liga this season. On paper, Real Madrid should be able to beat Osasuna, but that does not guarantee that they can win. On the other hand, Osasuna will also be aware of Real Madrid's current situation and they will take advantage of that. The odds given to Osasuna are very attractive, and if we dare to bet on such a risk then it can be done. However, once again this is full of risks so it should be considered carefully before betting.

I know Real Madrid is in terrible condition now but I don't think that will give osasuna guarantee to win against Real Madrid easily. This game will be taking place in the home of Real Madrid which I know it will be a difficult game for Osasuna despite the challenge Real Madrid is going true. Real Madrid are very aware of their performance which I think they may not be too relaxed in this game because they really need to meet up with points. Osasuna are doing well this season and no doubt about it but I still feel this game will be tough for them because it will be so embarrassing to Real Madrid if they should lose in this game.

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Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2024, 10:28:13 AM

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For this game i cannot give an absolute prediction just yet because neither of both teams are in a shape we can give an absolute guarantee upon because they have not been in their best form recently and that alone is enough to not give an absolute about then so you don't get disappointed but i know much earlier before now, Madrid would be the favorite, even currently some persons would wan to pick them as the favorite actually but for me I'm not making any pick but to just see the game.

If you are a true Real Madrid fan, then never doubt the abilities of your favorite team.
Real Madrid is a better team than Osasuna, so make them favorites and enjoy the game. I have no doubts about Real Madrid's winning chances against Osasuna, but I agree about their performance this season.

A home win over Osasuna would cure a lot of disappointment among the fans so far. Real Madrid are in poor form, but it would be unreasonable to doubt this team when their opponents are likely to be weaker in all positions. It is true, Osasuna can be a threat to Real Madrid, which looks sluggish, previously Osasuna beat Barcelona with a score of 4-2.

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Quote from: giammangiato on November 08, 2024, 09:37:06 AM

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The Pichichi race as it's called is currently being dominated by the Barcelona's Robert Lewandowski with 14 goals across 12 matches, showing his excellent performance in striking and goal scoring abilities. Perez Ayoza of Villarreal is the second guy on the list with 7 goals but he's not there alone as Raphinha as also shown equal goal scoring prowess this season. Mbappé is still coming up with his 6 goals in 10 match appearances. When you carefully analyze his gameplay performances, you could say the player isn't balanced yet with his new club and still finding it difficult to perform magics yet. However, it's a good establishment to be at the position he is now and this already suggests how powerful he's likely to be once he's able to establish himself more properly. The young Lamine Yamal is really another player to look out for this season with his five goals and 7 good assists.

Our expectations were high from Mbappe and Vini this season. But Mbappe is still not able to adapt himself well to Real Madrid. We don't see the expected performance from Vini either. At the same time, Bellingham, the top scorer of the La League in the last season, is not able to perform well. Real Madrid's overall situation is still not stable this season. Madrid scored only 21 goals in 11 matches.

Barcelona, on the other hand, have been in great form since the start of the season. Barcelona players scored 40 goals in 12 matches. Lewandowski, Raphinha and Yamal are all able to perform very well in every match. Barcelona are also getting better performances from Dani Olmo.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on November 07, 2024, 11:46:39 AM

I think Flick's punishment was more severe. It doesn't give a financial punishment but he can't find time in the match that week. Just think, your most important weapon doesn't come to training and Flick doesn't let him play in the match in order not to break discipline. This is a big threat to the other players. I'm sure everyone comes to training on time.

As a coach, he arrange for major operations in the club, he doesn't relent because the best results comes with full control. The new headcoach is gradually getting acquainted with the players, it's stage by stage and processing to the best form. Barcelona headcoach, Hansi Flick have his ways of implementing disciplinary measures towards his players, he's 100% focused on the main priorities of the club. Barcelona are ranked top of the league table and also having a smooth monumental performance this season. Barcelona focuses on laying their hands on almost the essential titles this season.

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Quote from: giammangiato on November 08, 2024, 09:37:06 AM

Player	Goal
Lewandowski R.	14
Pérez A.	7
Raphinha	7
Mbappé K.	6
Budimir A.	6
Olmo D.	5
Lo Celso G.	5
Lukébakio D.	5
Vinicius Júnior	5
Lamine Yamal	5
Sorloth A.	4
Arambarri M.	4
Iglesias B.	4
Aspas I.	4
Puado J.	4
Sancet O.	4
Cruz J.	4
Stuani C.	4
Moleiro A.	4

Mbappe going to 6. He's a long way from Robert Lewandowski

The Pichichi race as it's called is currently being dominated by the Barcelona's Robert Lewandowski with 14 goals across 12 matches, showing his excellent performance in striking and goal scoring abilities. Perez Ayoza of Villarreal is the second guy on the list with 7 goals but he's not there alone as Raphinha as also shown equal goal scoring prowess this season. Mbappé is still coming up with his 6 goals in 10 match appearances. When you carefully analyze his gameplay performances, you could say the player isn't balanced yet with his new club and still finding it difficult to perform magics yet. However, it's a good establishment to be at the position he is now and this already suggests how powerful he's likely to be once he's able to establish himself more properly. The young Lamine Yamal is really another player to look out for this season with his five goals and 7 good assists.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on November 08, 2024, 01:39:15 PM

Real Madrid will defeat Osasuna without a doubt, I believe in Real Madrid no matter how bad they are playing[...]

Then boommm!!!! Plot twist - Osasuna wins Madrid 0:1 and that's when you'll understand the difference between a TRAP and a true odd to wager on... Cheesy

I mean, I just made my prediction ...Who knows? (even I'll wager on the same option, or maybe a little bit of an improvised one, in the same pattern). It's obvious that the odds are already against your dear Madrid!

Quote from: Fiatless on November 08, 2024, 11:08:20 AM

Manager Ancelotti said he has discovered the problem of the club and the solutions are Sacrifice, focus and collective effort. We will see how these solutions will work in their next game against Osasuna.

If this wasn't already what the club had been training all year round for, what has been the status quo for all these years?? Well, lotti knows best so I'd say, let's see how it goes from here..

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 08, 2024, 11:08:20 AM

Real Madrid doesn't look like a club that grooms young talents. They don't have the philosophy of building players that will be integrated into the senior team or be sold to other clubs. Players like Arda Guler and Endrick would have to wait for their time to come or push for a loan deal. Even if the first team is not doing a good job, the club might resort to buying well-established players instead of depending on young experienced players.

Manager Ancelotti said he has discovered the problem of the club and the solutions are Sacrifice, focus and collective effort. We will see how these solutions will work in their next game against Osasuna.

You made some valid points actually and you are not far from the truth because unlike Barcelona that develops young talents and establish them in the Senior team, Real Madrid prefers buying expensive players outside than give attention to their junior players which is not too good for the team because I see some young talented players in the junior team that can possibly feature in the senior squad and excel perfectly but the few ones that Madrid managed to bring to the Senior team, end up not being featured in most games or have less playing time. Right now the club is going through some critical situation which needs to be followed with diplomacy and wisdom, so Ancelotti needs to identify the areas they are lacking behind and see how he can restore the team's performance as quick as possible before it will be too late for them.

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Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2024, 10:28:13 AM

When everyone is busy comparing the performance of Madrid and Barcelona, I have a question, do you believe in this match Madrid can get 3 points?
Everyone knows that Madrid has many quality players but their performance looks a little bad. For me it is not a problem because it is normal when a team has too many quality players, it certainly takes time to arrange everything to be perfect.
And I am sure in the upcoming match Madrid will prove to beat Osasuna with a bigger score difference.

Real Madrid will defeat Osasuna without a doubt, I believe in Real Madrid no matter how bad they are playing and if we look at Real Madrid the team has faced this kind of challenge before and they bounced back and started having a good performance again, Ancelotti said it today in the Conference that he believes that Real Madrid will compete for all the trophies this season and he is going to make that happen, I think Ancelotti know the Reason why Real Madrid is having a difficult season and he decide to join some young players from the academy to the first team.

Real Madrid will defeat Osasuna And I don't think Real Madrid will lose to any team this season if not Barcelona because Barcelona is in better shape this season than any team in the La Liga league, Real Madrid needs to make some signs in January to make the squad strong, I am still not satisfied with Lucas to be Real Madrid Right back this season, he is not strong enough to hold that position.

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