Topic: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 286. (Read 545075 times)

Real Madrid is clearly struggling at the moment, with two consecutive defeats, including a heavy loss to Barcelona in El Clasico and a disappointing defeat to AC Milan in the Champions League. Despite having extra time to prepare, Real looked unorganized against Milan, raising concerns about the team’s current form, particularly with Mbappe and Vinicius.

In contrast, Osasuna is having a strong season, sitting fifth in La Liga and on a winning streak across different competitions. With solid organization and good momentum, they could take advantage of Real’s current weaknesses. While I don’t expect an Osasuna win, a draw seems like a real possibility.

Fascinating how we don’t even give Real Madrid some hope even when they’re playing against a small team we all know they are the better team than and can win them in any conditions they may be in. Osasuna can’t be compared to Real Madrid please and for this game, I will still chose Real Madrid over because they’re the better team and their few past games that have not been encouraging won’t make them to be worse than that but try to improve in any upcoming game they may have in hand to play. Real Madrid performance is not good now but every team has this bad times during the season and how well you can leave that moment is how well you’re able to battle yourself out of that situation and be better once again. Their poor form may be over soon and I see them doing better in their upcoming games including this one.

Not totally agree with you there. They may not groom young players the usual way by playing them, but they do have a different system, which is physically altering them completely. Just look at most players they have right now and been there for a while, all of them came in as skinny kid who had a bit of talent, they didn't play for a few seasons and they ended up being physically strong, fast, and even more talented.

While I agree that Arda and Endrick type of players gets minutes in Barcelona and in other most clubs because the yare talented, Real Madrid is the top place, real doesn't get young players to play and sell for more later on, they are not after profits, they want to keep these kids for 15+ years, and that means they need to improve them.

Real Madrid are not in a good condition, and now they will face a club that is also not bad, proven by Osasuna being in 5th position in La Liga this season. On paper, Real Madrid should be able to beat Osasuna, but that does not guarantee that they can win. On the other hand, Osasuna will also be aware of Real Madrid's current situation and they will take advantage of that. The odds given to Osasuna are very attractive, and if we dare to bet on such a risk then it can be done. However, once again this is full of risks so it should be considered carefully before betting.

in football as in other complex human organizations a sort of hierarchy is important
If the coach doesn't assert his being the alpha man, then its all over
it starts with the protests, and with the fact that the players don't recognyze him as a leader and everything gets complicated

in this case Flick did well

Osasuna has been pretty good so far, they have won 6 matches, lost 3 and drawn 3 of the 12 matches they have played in La Liga. They are also quite productive by scoring 17 goals, but Madrid is a tough team and is playing as the host. Based on the H2H meetings between the two teams, Osasuna has always had difficulty in providing fierce resistance and ended in defeat. In Madrid's camp, going up and down is a natural thing to happen in a team, especially since Don Carlo is currently still looking for the ideal pattern for his team to be able to play as expected. In this match, Madrid should be able to regain momentum to get back on the winning track after going through two matches with defeats. This match should be a turning point for Don Carlo to bring his team back to playing at their level, two matches with defeats can be used as a correction for the shortcomings of his team. Moreover, the odds for both teams have a gap. I suspect that in this match Real Madrid will use a 4-3-3 formation, the return of Rodrygo makes the trio of Vini, Mbappe and Rodrygo reliable for Don Carlo. My speculation, if the scenario goes as I said, Madrid has a high probability of winning with a big score.

Real Madrid needs to prepare themselves very well for this match if they really want to win it, because Osasuna is a club that you cannot underestimate and with the current performance of Real Madrid, it might be a problem for them to win Osasuna. Barcelona that is in their best form was beaten by Osasuna 4-2, and since that time, I have never underestimate them. Madrid needs to find a strategy to outsmart them, but the problem with Real Madrid is that their defense is not strong and Osasuna has sharp attackers.

For this game i cannot give an absolute prediction just yet because neither of both teams are in a shape we can give an absolute guarantee upon because they have not been in their best form recently and that alone is enough to not give an absolute about then so you don't get disappointed but i know much earlier before now, Madrid would be the favorite, even currently some persons would wan to pick them as the favorite actually but for me I'm not making any pick but to just see the game.

Real Madrid doesn't look like a club that grooms young talents. They don't have the philosophy of building players that will be integrated into the senior team or be sold to other clubs. Players like Arda Guler and Endrick would have to wait for their time to come or push for a loan deal. Even if the first team is not doing a good job, the club might resort to buying well-established players instead of depending on young experienced players.

Manager Ancelotti said he has discovered the problem of the club and the solutions are Sacrifice, focus and collective effort. We will see how these solutions will work in their next game against Osasuna.

https://dailypost.ng/2024/11/08/laliga-weve-found-solution-to-real-madrids-problems-ancelotti/

seeing the opportunity Madrid should be more favored and make it easier for them to win the match. but with their current performance, it all depends on the ability of Osasuna players to stop several players who can make Madrid's attacking players have difficulty. Osasuna has several examples of teams that can hold back and even beat Madrid. the rest depends on their ability.
Ancelotti must have more confidence in tactics and other players. Madrid has quite a lot of talented young players who don't get many opportunities to play. I hope Madrid can play better.

I think all these doubts about Madrid being able to win against Osasuna were due to their last two matches' defeats against Barcelona and AC Milan, if not how can you compare a Madrid team with world-class players and Osasuna who have a lot of average players in their squad.

Based on the last match's performance, Osasuna won their last three games, while Madrid lost their last two games. Although the prediction will be intense due to the form Osasuna is in this season, because they are currently the fifth team based on the Laliga table ranking, and they are just three points behind Real Madrid even though Madrid has one outstanding match to be played against Valencia.

For me, it will be a straight win for Madrid, they really need these three points and they will get it because they won their last four matches against Osasuna.

I disagree with a lot of things you said here.
One of them I saying Mbappe doesn't score because they don't creat chances for him. This is not true. Mbappe has missed 5 big chances in La liga, those were chances that were created for him by other players. He has also missed other chances that are not big chances but he should have scored them with his qualities.
Mbappe did not lose form at Madrid. he lost his form before arriving in Madrid. He has already started dropping form in PSG but people don't pay much attention to that league and Mbappe is kind of like a poster boy so nobody talks about how horrible he was towards the end of the season. He too that form to France in the Euro and we saw how bad he was. Then he arrived at Madrid where the team was struggling from the first match day when Mbappe was not even available to play and that made his form even worse.

Secondly, you said the job of the striker is only to wait for the ball, that's not true at all. The striker as other jobs too. If the full backs say "my job is only to defend, not to create a chance, join the attack or to score' or the midfielders say "my job is just to be in the midfield and create chances, not to help the defence or score goals' how do you think the team will look?
The striker's primary job is to score, but that doesn't mean it doesn't mean he can't support the team in other ways like pressing and helping to win back balls, link up play with the midfield and wingers. Football is a team sports and everybody is going to work for benefit of the team.

If you watch top strikers like Lewandsoki and Kane you'll see that they helps their team in linking up with the midfield and wingers to build up the play. They also help the pressing so their teams can win back the ball. Some times when they're defending a set piece you see them at their own post defending for their team.  Strikers have way more job than scoring goals.

Real Madrid have not gotten so bad that they will have a problem defeating a small team like Osasuna. The few matches they lost were to big teams and not small club that their second eleven can even win. Tomorrow will be a smooth ride for Madrid and if not that the odd for home win is very small, that option would have been a safe bet. I don't know about that BTTS option because Madrid at home can prevent Osasuna from scoring any goal. If you consider that option safe for you, go ahead and play it but if you ask me, going with total goal would have been better than BTTS.

Basically Real Madrid is still Real Madrid who always has the chance to win all matches but unfortunately, sometimes the result of defeat is very possible and no matter how big the team is favored. For the next La Liga match, Real Madrid will play at home and again their opponent can be said to be a mediocre team. But the reality is, at this moment Osasuna is also in fifth position and considering Real Madrid's previous poor results, then Real Madrid should not underestimate Osasuna in this match.

Although indeed, I am also very confident that this match will be a very good moment for Real Madrid  to get another win with a good score too. But once again, because Osasuna at this moment does not seem bad at all, then Real Madrid must remain careful because maybe a surprise will happen again. Who knows

When everyone is busy comparing the performance of Madrid and Barcelona, I have a question, do you believe in this match Madrid can get 3 points?
Everyone knows that Madrid has many quality players but their performance looks a little bad. For me it is not a problem because it is normal when a team has too many quality players, it certainly takes time to arrange everything to be perfect.
And I am sure in the upcoming match Madrid will prove to beat Osasuna with a bigger score difference.

I also hope that the Real Madrid team management will not remain silent at this time, especially since they have also seen quite clearly how Real Madrid's condition is this season when there are no more key players like Toni Kroos. So Ancelotti and the Real Madrid team management must be able to find the right solution for this before Real Madrid becomes more difficult this season because now is the time to continue to fix every problem so that Real Madrid is not late and lags even further behind some of its closest rivals at this time.

I don't even think like that. It seems to me Ancelotti doesn't trust Arda and Endrick. It's painful to see how dirty he treated those young players. He should give them minutes in serious matches. It's risky, but a gamble worth taking. He'd get better results by playing Endrick instead of washed-up Mbappé as a number 9.
I know Mbappe has a bigger name than Endrick. But, it's pathetic to play the worse player when the better one is available.

Lastly, Madrid's case can't be compared to Barcelona's. Madrid lacks trust in its young talents, and Barcelona has always given minutes to its young talents. So, this likes compare orang to the apple.

Every club have their downtime so I guess that of Real Madrid have come and neither hundred Toni Kroos can change that. The solution to their recent flops is never hinged on one player because one player does not make a team. What they need now is a serious mental work to put their mindset properly and in winning ways so that they don't dwell in the defeats. They have the quality of players needed to retain their top spot and I don't see much lacking in the team apart from the winning mentality that have eroded following their ordeal. The same thing happen to Real Madrid is happening to Manchester City and slightly, Bayern Munic.

Player	Goal
Lewandowski R.	14
Pérez A.	7
Raphinha	7
Mbappé K.	6
Budimir A.	6
Olmo D.	5
Lo Celso G.	5
Lukébakio D.	5
Vinicius Júnior	5
Lamine Yamal	5
Sorloth A.	4
Arambarri M.	4
Iglesias B.	4
Aspas I.	4
Puado J.	4
Sancet O.	4
Cruz J.	4
Stuani C.	4
Moleiro A.	4

Mbappe going to 6. He's a long way from Robert Lewandowski

Madrid performance this season has really plummeted compared to what we saw in previous seasons, maybe injuries are their main problem but actually I think Ancelotti has rotated the injured players well, even so we still see how poorly they are playing at the moment and it happens continuously in different matches, I think losing key players like Kroos has had a big impact on Madrid's current performance, because Kroos is a very influential player in maintaining the rhythm of the game and providing accurate passes that open up opportunities for attackers and also being able to help the defence very well, I don't think it's difficult to find players with the same qualities as kroos and in fact they already have camavinga, valverde and ceballos at the moment, but what we don't saw from them is the experience, leadership and vision that kroos have, I think now ancelotti just needs to maximise and develop the potential of these players to become kroos successors although it might not be the same, besides, wouldn't it be better if madrid asked kroos to return to the squad and delay his retirement until the end of the season, if its can help madrid overcome the crisis they are experiencing?.