La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 2881.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 02, 2023, 01:03:45 AM

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 01, 2023, 03:12:26 PM

Lewandowsky was not convincing in the home game against Espanyol. Atletico Madrid - Barcelona is quite a cracker actually, and Barcelona has to be careful not to lose because then the gap to Real Madrid can be 3 points again. And to think that Barcelona had gone into the winter break with a lead of 2 points. It can change quickly, you can see this way. The lead of Barcelona and Madrid over the number 3 Real Sociedad is 9 points, which is a big gap. In any case, Barcelona has a decent defense this year, given the few goals they have conceded.

With the point difference between Barcelona and Real Madrid, I knew Barcelona is not going to stay long on the La Liga table. Currently, Barcelona has a challenge in its defense and Xavi has not been able to rectify and solve this problem. 60℅ of the new signing he made to overhaul the defense and midfield were above 30 years and this is considered unhealthy for the team. Another shortcoming is the high dependency on Lewandowsky which was a problem to them in their last match. perhaps Real Madrid has many attacking options that can be featured in different competitions as such saving them the risk of fatigue. Madrid is a better side for the La Liga title.

Real Madrid have a much tougher challenge with the several competitions they will be in in the future, although the Real Madrid squad have options to overcome this, it will be quite tiring in the end. Especially for Laliga, I'm more sure that Barcelona has a bigger chance of winning the La Liga title this season, even so it does not rule out for Real Madird.

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It might be interesting to some people maybe but my opinion is like this.

I believe in Benzema more than Lewandowski when it comes to comparing the performances. I know that Benzema has scored 7 goals in the La Liga and it is 13 for Lewandowski. But we should consider the match amount they played at the same time. If we check that info we see that Lewandowski played like double the amount of matches Benzema did so far. Hence we can easily say that Benzema is also very efficient about scoring goals now. Apart from that Benzema is far more reliable now when it comes to scoring in big matches. Lewandowski is not like that now despite being just like that while playing for Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on January 02, 2023, 07:15:15 AM

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Barcelona has defensive problems for a very long time and surprise xavi haven't done anything about it knowing the problem is facing as a coach. It will only take Barcelona to work on their self for them to maintain their first position.
Barcelona in this form it will be two hard be at the top.

I have read the quoted argument several times, but I don't think that it is true.

On one hand, taking into account the financial situation of the football club, what other thing could be done by Xavi? signing of new players is almost rules out.

On the other hand, results to date have been quite good, matching Real Madrid's ones. It is easy to criticize, but we should try to be honest also: if they continue performing like this, their chances to win La Liga are quite high.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 02, 2023, 01:03:45 AM

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 01, 2023, 03:12:26 PM

Lewandowsky was not convincing in the home game against Espanyol. Atletico Madrid - Barcelona is quite a cracker actually, and Barcelona has to be careful not to lose because then the gap to Real Madrid can be 3 points again. And to think that Barcelona had gone into the winter break with a lead of 2 points. It can change quickly, you can see this way. The lead of Barcelona and Madrid over the number 3 Real Sociedad is 9 points, which is a big gap. In any case, Barcelona has a decent defense this year, given the few goals they have conceded.

With the point difference between Barcelona and Real Madrid, I knew Barcelona is not going to stay long on the La Liga table. Currently, Barcelona has a challenge in its defense and Xavi has not been able to rectify and solve this problem. 60℅ of the new signing he made to overhaul the defense and midfield were above 30 years and this is considered unhealthy for the team. Another shortcoming is the high dependency on Lewandowsky which was a problem to them in their last match. perhaps Real Madrid has many attacking options that can be featured in different competitions as such saving them the risk of fatigue. Madrid is a better side for the La Liga title.

Barcelona has defensive problems for a very long time and surprise xavi haven't done anything about it knowing the problem is facing as a coach. It will only take Barcelona to work on their self for them to maintain their first position.
Barcelona in this form it will be two hard be at the top.

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Quote from: rendravolt on January 02, 2023, 01:19:06 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on January 01, 2023, 01:16:59 PM

at the top of the standings is very interesting and exciting because it has the same points between real madrid and barcelona, of course this will be a tough competition between the two to be the greatest in the spanish league cup this season, i am not a supporter of both but i believe the greatest will be the winner win in this season

La Liga is still very much dominated by the two clubs Barcelona and Real Madrid, but usually the two of them have a small gap in points when the season ends and that makes this competition very fierce. But whoever wins La Liga will of course be a great debate and it is natural to see that the two teams have played equally well every season.

Now both of them have the same points after Barcelona failed to win in their last match. The competition will be even fiercer because their rivalry is very strong, a team that fails to become a champion will feel ashamed because they failed to compete with their rivals.
The next match has the potential to make a difference in points between Barcelona and Real Madrid, Barcelona will face Atletico Madrid while Real Madrid will be challenged by Villareal. I see the opportunity for Real Madrid to sit at the top of the standings is very large, because Atletico Madrid is very difficult to beat.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on January 02, 2023, 02:19:08 AM

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 02, 2023, 12:17:49 AM

I don't know why you put Atletico Madrid in there who have only won 3 leagues in the last 20 years. The ones who dominate La Liga are Madrid and Barcelona. Atletico Madrid is closer to Atletico Bilbao or Valencia, who have also won some leagues and had brilliant periods than Madrid and Barcelona.

At least there is a process that Atletico Madrid must be proud of because it succeeded in being in the top 4 from the top of the standings, so it would not be wrong if it was given good appreciation, whereas when it comes to Real Madrid and Barcelona, it is only fitting that these two teams compete fiercely because they both have equal strengths. and won a very prestigious league this season.

Well, I agree with Don Pedro Dinero on the fact that it seems that Barcelona and Real Madrid seem to be in a different tier compared to the rest of teams, but Atlético de Madrid has also shown that they are closer to those teams, maintaining the third place in the standings in the last few years.

But this can change at any time, because there is always a factor of chance in football, and there are other strong teams also who want to achieve the third place, like the mentioned Bilbao and Valencia, and many more this year (Betis, Real Sociedad, Osasuna...).

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 01, 2023, 01:16:59 PM

at the top of the standings is very interesting and exciting because it has the same points between real madrid and barcelona, of course this will be a tough competition between the two to be the greatest in the spanish league cup this season, i am not a supporter of both but i believe the greatest will be the winner win in this season

As for personal beliefs, I still believe more in Real Madrid who will win the Spanish league cup this season, even though Barcelona's chances are also bigger to win La Liga this season. But what I'm worried about is when Barcelona meets Atletico Madrid, because Atletico Madrid are a stronger team than Espanyol who drew with Barcelona two days ago. Of course it will be very hard for Barcelona, because they need a win, not a defeat or another draw.

Quote from: rendravolt on January 02, 2023, 01:19:06 AM

La Liga is still very much dominated by the two clubs Barcelona and Real Madrid, but usually the two of them have a small gap in points when the season ends and that makes this competition very fierce. But whoever wins La Liga will of course be a great debate and it is natural to see that the two teams have played equally well every season.

Because the battles between these two teams are more fierce in every season and also this season, it is very profitable for La Liga because all the fans of the two around the world will always be waiting for their games this season, especially now that the number of points is the same and they will continue try to keep winning in the next match so that there is no gap in points between the two.

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I also lost a bet on the Barcelona vs Espanyol match. The initial guess was that the game would end in a draw due to last season's statistics of Barcelona only managing a narrow win from two games, but was hesitant to press the option.

Barcelona had a better chance of winning against their rivals after Alonso found the back of the net in the opening 10 minutes of the first half (minute 7) thanks to Christensen's assist.

With this draw, Real Madrid continue to disrupt their concentration in the race to win La Liga this season. Their points (Barcelona and Real Madrid) are equal. But the next match Barcelona must play an away match against Atletico Madrid which is relatively difficult.

Barcelona had a lot of chances to get ahead in the match again. Actually, if it was not for the goalkeeper of Espanyol the match could actually have gone in favour of Barcelona. You know, Barcelona needed to win this match because even though right now Barcelona is at the top of the table, Real Madrid is going to cause them a lot of problems.

I think this draw of Barcelona against a very weak opponent like this, is going to make things a lot harder for Barcelona themselves. Now they basically do not have any breathing space.

Espanyol's ranking in the La Liga standings does make them look like a weak club, but historically the two of them meeting on the pitch have always been in tight conditions even though against other teams Espanyol often has bad results.

This is beyond losing the bet that we choose to win Barcelona.

Regarding the competition with Real Madrid, Barcelona does not look comfortable this season sitting at number 1 in the standings because Real Madrid continues to overshadow with positive results. Maybe the conditions will also be the same if Real Madrid leads the standings with the same point difference.
We think all teams will also feel the competition as felt by Barcelona and Real Madrid including outside the La Liga competition.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 02, 2023, 12:17:49 AM

I don't know why you put Atletico Madrid in there who have only won 3 leagues in the last 20 years. The ones who dominate La Liga are Madrid and Barcelona. Atletico Madrid is closer to Atletico Bilbao or Valencia, who have also won some leagues and had brilliant periods than Madrid and Barcelona.

At least there is a process that Atletico Madrid must be proud of because it succeeded in being in the top 4 from the top of the standings, so it would not be wrong if it was given good appreciation, whereas when it comes to Real Madrid and Barcelona, it is only fitting that these two teams compete fiercely because they both have equal strengths. and won a very prestigious league this season.

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 01, 2023, 01:16:59 PM

at the top of the standings is very interesting and exciting because it has the same points between real madrid and barcelona, of course this will be a tough competition between the two to be the greatest in the spanish league cup this season, i am not a supporter of both but i believe the greatest will be the winner win in this season

La Liga is still very much dominated by the two clubs Barcelona and Real Madrid, but usually the two of them have a small gap in points when the season ends and that makes this competition very fierce. But whoever wins La Liga will of course be a great debate and it is natural to see that the two teams have played equally well every season.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 01, 2023, 07:49:06 PM

Another big draw for Fc Barcelona against Espanol. Though it affected my ticket, It wasn't a big surprise. Fc Barcelona currently doesn't have a vibrant player who stand in for Robert Lewandowsky and the match against Espanol really proved it. If the board management can bring in Moukoko or Daishi, it be a bit relieve on Lewandowsky and also more strength to the Baecelona attacking line.

As long as there are no financial problems at Barcelona, of course it will be easy to recruit Moukoko from Dortmund before Chelsea. It seems that Chelsea is also more serious about getting the services of this German national striker. The reason is, Chelsea still feels that the striker's performance is still mediocre with players like Aubameyang, Sterling, Havertz, Pulisic and Ziyech, well I think Barcelona should buy him soon

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 01, 2023, 03:12:26 PM

Lewandowsky was not convincing in the home game against Espanyol. Atletico Madrid - Barcelona is quite a cracker actually, and Barcelona has to be careful not to lose, because then the gap to Real Madrid can be 3 points again. And to think that Barcelona had gone into the winter break with a lead of 2 points. It can change quickly, you can see this way. The lead of Barcelona and Madrid over the number 3 Real Sociedad is 9 points, which is a big gap. In any case, Barcelona has a decent defense this year, given the few goals they have conceded.

The problem is you can't sure whether barcelona will be performing so well or it will have same performance like when it was against espanyol. barcelona shall used all of resources to make sure if it will not be losing points against atletico madrid. As far as i know that once barcelona will bw losing against atletico and real madrid will have a chance to create the gap. Im doubt if barcelona can win against atletico. atletico has a very good duets that can make barcelona to lose full points as soon as possible. i think that people will put their choice into the atletico madrid rather than barcelona. Real madrid will face villareal but i don't consider villa real as a difficult team to be beaten bu real madrid. barcelona fans must have prepared themselves to see that real madrid to lead the competition again.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 01, 2023, 03:12:26 PM

Lewandowsky was not convincing in the home game against Espanyol. Atletico Madrid - Barcelona is quite a cracker actually, and Barcelona has to be careful not to lose because then the gap to Real Madrid can be 3 points again. And to think that Barcelona had gone into the winter break with a lead of 2 points. It can change quickly, you can see this way. The lead of Barcelona and Madrid over the number 3 Real Sociedad is 9 points, which is a big gap. In any case, Barcelona has a decent defense this year, given the few goals they have conceded.

With the point difference between Barcelona and Real Madrid, I knew Barcelona is not going to stay long on the La Liga table. Currently, Barcelona has a challenge in its defense and Xavi has not been able to rectify and solve this problem. 60℅ of the new signing he made to overhaul the defense and midfield were above 30 years and this is considered unhealthy for the team. Another shortcoming is the high dependency on Lewandowsky which was a problem to them in their last match. perhaps Real Madrid has many attacking options that can be featured in different competitions as such saving them the risk of fatigue. Madrid is a better side for the La Liga title.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 02, 2023, 12:17:49 AM

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on January 01, 2023, 08:16:34 PM

La Liga is dominated by three biggest clubs Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. From Wiki, Real Madrid win 35 titles, Barcelona wins 26 titles and Atletico Madrid wins 11 titles. About finance, Real Madrid and Barcelona have better finance than Atletico Madrid in most of years.

I don't know why you put Atletico Madrid in there who have only won 3 leagues in the last 20 years. The ones who dominate La Liga are Madrid and Barcelona. Atletico Madrid is closer to Atletico Bilbao or Valencia, who have also won some leagues and had brilliant periods than Madrid and Barcelona.

Imo, the dominance in question is calculated in terms of the number of titles obtained by these three clubs. In general, La Liga has always been dominated by Real Madrid and Barcelona, these two clubs always compete to be the best at the end of the season.
In theory, Atletico have not been able to compete with Real Madrid and Barcelona in dominating La Liga, a new breakthrough is needed for Atletico to add competition to Real Madrid and Barcelona. At least Atletico have to spend a lot of money to bring in quality players to their squad as PSG, Man City and Chelsea have done.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 01, 2023, 07:49:06 PM

Another big draw for Fc Barcelona against Espanol. Though it affected my ticket, It wasn't a big surprise. Fc Barcelona currently doesn't have a vibrant player who stand in for Robert Lewandowsky and the match against Espanol really proved it. If the board management can bring in Moukoko or Daishi, it be a bit relieve on Lewandowsky and also more strength to the Baecelona attacking line.

In a previous post I commented, as did some other colleagues, that this outcome was likely. Madrid had an easier match a priori than Barcelona, plus historically many derbies between Barcelona and Espanyol have ended in draws. Now both are tied on points, which gives the league an extra point of excitement.

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on January 01, 2023, 08:16:34 PM

La Liga is dominated by three biggest clubs Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. From Wiki, Real Madrid win 35 titles, Barcelona wins 26 titles and Atletico Madrid wins 11 titles. About finance, Real Madrid and Barcelona have better finance than Atletico Madrid in most of years.

I don't know why you put Atletico Madrid in there who have only won 3 leagues in the last 20 years. The ones who dominate La Liga are Madrid and Barcelona. Atletico Madrid is closer to Atletico Bilbao or Valencia, who have also won some leagues and had brilliant periods than Madrid and Barcelona.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 01, 2023, 07:49:06 PM

Another big draw for Fc Barcelona against Espanol. Though it affected my ticket, It wasn't a big surprise. Fc Barcelona currently doesn't have a vibrant player who stand in for Robert Lewandowsky and the match against Espanol really proved it. If the board management can bring in Moukoko or Daishi, it be a bit relieve on Lewandowsky and also more strength to the Baecelona attacking line.

Afaik, moukoko has been confirming waiting for barcelona’s offer but the club seems has financial problem that prevents it to buy him from dortmund. Moukoko itself has been interesting to join with barcelona. The final decision will be on barcelona whether the club wanna try to sign him from dortmund or not. Fabrizio romano has been even confirming about barcelona was willing to sign moukoko from dortmund but it must compete with chelsea. The problem is barcelona become moukoko’s favourite club instead of chelsea. Moukoko may join barcelona very soon.

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Quote from: snipie on January 01, 2023, 05:59:54 PM

Barcelona and Real Madrid are dominating La Liga thanks to their large fan base and funds that are way bigger than the rest of the teams. The amount they can spend equals to all the other teams together.

La Liga is dominated by three biggest clubs Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. From Wiki, Real Madrid win 35 titles, Barcelona wins 26 titles and Atletico Madrid wins 11 titles. About finance, Real Madrid and Barcelona have better finance than Atletico Madrid in most of years.

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ATM was very competitive the previous seasons but no longer right now. Simeone strategy is not fully functional but made the team good without much spending.
Sevilla collapsed badly and getting out of the relegation zone is a priority that might not be achieved soon Undecided

ATM started to perform worse and get financial problems after the big transfer for Joao Felix who has never demonstrates his ability in the club. I recognize that he is a talent player but maybe the club and defensive and counter attacking tactic of Simeone don't suit with Joao Felix.

Recent weeks, rumors flooded around that he is finding a new club in January or if he fails to move in January, he will leave in the summer.

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Another big draw for Fc Barcelona against Espanol. Though it affected my ticket, It wasn't a big surprise. Fc Barcelona currently doesn't have a vibrant player who stand in for Robert Lewandowsky and the match against Espanol really proved it. If the board management can bring in Moukoko or Daishi, it be a bit relieve on Lewandowsky and also more strength to the Baecelona attacking line.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on January 01, 2023, 05:31:21 PM

at least you still see barcelona at the top of the standings even though it has the same points as real madrid, so at this time everything is fine until the next match don't let barcelona play badly again in the next match because real madrid could shift its position at the top of the standings, barcelona I have to improve myself from yesterday's game

Yesterday's match was a sign that Barcelona still needs to evaluate their players so that the coach knows where the mistakes are so they are not able to win against Espanyol. In the future there will be even tougher opponents than yesterday so improvement on certain lines is clearly needed by Barcelona because they can be very overwhelmed and even difficult to win if they don't make improvements immediately, because Atletico Madrid which Barcelona will face is not a weak team this season.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 01, 2023, 03:12:26 PM

Lewandowsky was not convincing in the home game against Espanyol. Atletico Madrid - Barcelona is quite a cracker actually, and Barcelona has to be careful not to lose, because then the gap to Real Madrid can be 3 points again. And to think that Barcelona had gone into the winter break with a lead of 2 points. It can change quickly, you can see this way. The lead of Barcelona and Madrid over the number 3 Real Sociedad is 9 points, which is a big gap. In any case, Barcelona has a decent defense this year, given the few goals they have conceded.

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If Barcelona still lose Atletico Madrid it means it will be tough for Barcelona to be able to try to maintain the first position. At this stage any small mistake from Barcelona, Real Madrid as opportunity to win the league.

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