La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 2912.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 27, 2022, 03:44:05 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 27, 2022, 02:09:44 PM

Betis and Athletic Bilbao have almost the same odds for the win.
But it is totally normal of course. Because these teams are very close to each other in the standings. They have very similar statistics expect the number of goals scored. Athletic Bilbao have been more productive about that so far. But I think they will have big difficulties in this game as for scoring multiple goals. I'm expecting a more controlled game from both sides. My expectation is a draw with goals like 1-1 as well. I don't expect Betis to lose here by benefiting from home stadium advantage.

I won't bet on that game either, both teams are unstable, so either team can win the game, but about a draw I wouldn't consider it, Athletic Bilbao has a chance of winning the game

Their odds are quite good but indeed the risk is quite big to be in one of them because this is also not certain, especially as you said, their condition is not very stable and they still have the same opportunities.
I'm also not going to be in this gamble and better watch comfortably but I still feel that the match will still be a draw, even if someone wins it will only be a narrow win.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 27, 2022, 08:41:21 AM

I don't think Atletico will have big problems against Elche. their performance is declining. but from the last 2 matches carried out by Atletico after the world cup break, they showed a pretty good game.
so facing Elche, I don't think it will be a barrier for Atletico to get the win.

the games that Atletico Madrid played in the friendly matches were against very weak teams, and also both teams weren't playing seriously so these friendly matches shouldn't even be given importance, Atletico Madrid has not had good results in the last league matches , in the last 5 games they only won 1 game, had 2 draws and 2 defeats so they can even lose or draw against elche, that wouldn't surprise me

Quote from: Z-tight on December 27, 2022, 02:00:04 PM

surely Athletico Madrid are going to beat them, i cannot doubt that.

Atletico Madrid is not a reliable team, even playing against a weak team they can lose points, that's why I don't bet on games involving Atlético Madrid, I'll follow this game to see how far Atletico is improving, maybe after i see if they are improving then i will bet on them, but i will be cautious because i don't trust them, this strategy of theirs is not working

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 27, 2022, 02:09:44 PM

Betis and Athletic Bilbao have almost the same odds for the win.

But it is totally normal of course. Because these teams are very close to each other in the standings. They have very similar statistics expect the number of goals scored. Athletic Bilbao have been more productive about that so far. But I think they will have big difficulties in this game as for scoring multiple goals. I'm expecting a more controlled game from both sides. My expectation is a draw with goals like 1-1 as well. I don't expect Betis to lose here by benefiting from home stadium advantage.

I won't bet on that game either, both teams are unstable, so either team can win the game, but about a draw I wouldn't consider it, Athletic Bilbao has a chance of winning the game

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 27, 2022, 02:09:44 PM

Betis and Athletic Bilbao have almost the same odds for the win.

But it is totally normal of course. Because these teams are very close to each other in the standings. They have very similar statistics expect the number of goals scored. Athletic Bilbao have been more productive about that so far. But I think they will have big difficulties in this game as for scoring multiple goals. I'm expecting a more controlled game from both sides. My expectation is a draw with goals like 1-1 as well. I don't expect Betis to lose here by benefiting from home stadium advantage.

They only differ in terms of productivity, this game will be interesting because the two teams have almost a lot in common. Real Betis may be more favored because in this match they will act as hosts, but Atletico Bilbao is not coming to be a loser. It is very difficult to determine who will win the match. I'll try to bet on a draw in this game, that's a pretty good chance seeing how both teams are doing so far.

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Quote from: longyenthanh on December 27, 2022, 11:22:00 AM

Quote from: alpamar99 on December 27, 2022, 11:13:52 AM

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At Barca, there are young talented players like Gavi Pedri ~~Rafinha~~ Raphinha. Which is capable of scoring goals in addition to ~~Niwandeiski~~Lewandowski. So it is expected that Barca will not lose points at home.

My advice you should try to memorize the player's name lol.
Even if there are several players you mentioned, losing Lewandowski is still a problem. Indeed, in this case Barcelona has many real opportunities but this is not a guarantee that they can win even though they are favorites because their opponent is in a bad condition because this could also be surprising in terms of results

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Quote from: Z-tight on December 27, 2022, 02:00:04 PM

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 27, 2022, 08:41:21 AM

so facing Elche, I don't think it will be a barrier for Atletico to get the win.

I feel you are correct, Athletico madrid are having many problems this season, they have been eliminated from the champions league and are in fifth position in the La Liga table, i would not trust them to beat a big team these days, but against Elche that are 20th in the La Liga table and have won no match in the La Liga this season, drawing just 4 and losing 10, they have also conceded 31 goals this season and have only scored 10, surely Athletico Madrid are going to beat them, i cannot doubt that.

They should, because on paper they have an advantage over their current opponents. If they lose the match against Elche then it will be a real threat to Diego Simeone, because perhaps the pressure to immediately sack and replace him with a new coach will be heard more and more. Elche is not a strong opponent for them, so I think it will be a win for Atletico Madrid, even if by a narrow score.

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Betis and Athletic Bilbao have almost the same odds for the win.

But it is totally normal of course. Because these teams are very close to each other in the standings. They have very similar statistics expect the number of goals scored. Athletic Bilbao have been more productive about that so far. But I think they will have big difficulties in this game as for scoring multiple goals. I'm expecting a more controlled game from both sides. My expectation is a draw with goals like 1-1 as well. I don't expect Betis to lose here by benefiting from home stadium advantage.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 27, 2022, 08:41:21 AM

so facing Elche, I don't think it will be a barrier for Atletico to get the win.

I feel you are correct, Athletico madrid are having many problems this season, they have been eliminated from the champions league and are in fifth position in the La Liga table, i would not trust them to beat a big team these days, but against Elche that are 20th in the La Liga table and have won no match in the La Liga this season, drawing just 4 and losing 10, they have also conceded 31 goals this season and have only scored 10, surely Athletico Madrid are going to beat them, i cannot doubt that.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 27, 2022, 08:41:21 AM

I don't think Atletico will have big problems against Elche. their performance is declining. but from the last 2 matches carried out by Atletico after the world cup break, they showed a pretty good game.
so facing Elche, I don't think it will be a barrier for Atletico to get the win.

Elche scored only 4 points in 14 games, and here Atletico's victory seems like an obvious result, it seems to me that the bookmakers should give a odds of 1.1 for the win of the Atletico in this match, but now it's 1.25 Anything can happen, there may be an underestimation of the opponent, or Elche will play well in defense, but it seems a dubious, here Atletico should win. In such a match, they need to take 3 points.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on December 27, 2022, 01:24:44 PM

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It seems that Atletico Madrid will find it a bit difficult in this match, I don't mean to underestimate Atletico Madrid considering their performance has been quite bad this season and maybe Elche will be a tough opponent for them. Even though Elche is at the bottom of the board, of course they also want to get better results in order to lift their standings and keep them away from the relegation zone this season.

I don't really believe that Elche can make it difficult for Atletico Madrid. Even if Atletico performance is below par, Simeone army is still very tough for Elche. Atletico will try to win to shift the position of Athletic Bilbao who are in fourth place, Atletico and Bilbao both have 24 points. Victory is very important for Atletico to improve their performance, especially since Real Betis are also peeking at Bilbao and Atletico made a mistake to get into the top four.

After all, Elche is the only team in La Liga that hasn't won at all so far. What's more, Elche will play away when he plays against Atletico, this will certainly be a difficult job for Elche to be able to gain points.
You can consider when a big team that is performing poorly compared to a weak team that is also experiencing poor performance, does that mean that a weak team can beat a big team in terms of quality.

I think it's funny, the team that so far still hasn't won at all but compared to the team that is ranked fifth. Because basically in terms of the quality of the players, coaches and team management it is also clear that Atletico is still better.
So this moment will certainly be the right moment for Atletico to get full points, because Betis will also play against Bilbao which of course Atletico will also take advantage of this moment to win.
Because if one of them Betis or Bilbao wins and or gets a draw, at least with Atletico's victory over Elche it will keep Atletico's position in either the top five or even the top four.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 27, 2022, 08:31:04 AM

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It seems that Atletico Madrid will find it a bit difficult in this match, I don't mean to underestimate Atletico Madrid considering their performance has been quite bad this season and maybe Elche will be a tough opponent for them. Even though Elche is at the bottom of the board, of course they also want to get better results in order to lift their standings and keep them away from the relegation zone this season.

I don't really believe that Elche can make it difficult for Atletico Madrid. Even if Atletico performance is below par, Simeone army is still very tough for Elche. Atletico will try to win to shift the position of Athletic Bilbao who are in fourth place, Atletico and Bilbao both have 24 points. Victory is very important for Atletico to improve their performance, especially since Real Betis are also peeking at Bilbao and Atletico made a mistake to get into the top four.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 27, 2022, 12:09:36 PM

Benzema has finally recovered from his injury which is great news for Real Madrid. I can't say it like they were too bad in his absence. They were still scoring goals but they lost points in really unexpected matches quite often in the La Liga as well. Maybe if Benzema played in those matches then the things might have been different. Real Madrid are still in need of his services quite much these days. Because they don't have a proper substitute striker to fill his place well for now.

Rodrygo can play there but he isn't a natural striker. He showed this by his performance so far as well. I don't mean that he was too bad but he wasn't able to score goals as many as Benzema. Mariano seems like the only natural striker in the subs but he is much worse than these two players.

It is reported that Karim Benzema has recovered from his injury, but usually, players who have been injured will have a very difficult time getting to their performance before the injury, especially since the injury suffered by Karim Benzema is the knee and thigh, of course, this is still vulnerable and not like before.
I think that Real Madrid should prepare a replacement for Karim Benzema who is more talented in the January 2023 transfer market, this must be the right decision, rather than working on Rodrygo as a striker.
Carlo Ancelotti should really pay attention to this before Real Madrid is far behind in points to Barcelona.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on December 27, 2022, 11:13:52 AM

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Quote from: baeva on December 26, 2022, 03:20:48 PM

I do not have the slightest doubt that Barcelona will not be difficult, the maximum that can happen is a draw in one of the matches, but clearly not a defeat. So the situation in the standings will continue to be difficult. They do not depend heavily on Lewandowski, so it will not be difficult to rebuild the lineup, it is their main advantage

A draw is clearly not Barcelona's goal when facing Espanyol let alone losing. They are only two points ahead of Real Madrid who are in second place, Xavi will not waste the opportunity for an additional three points even though he cannot play Lewandowski in this match. Xavi still has several reliable strikers, the situation will not make it difficult for Barcelona especially when they are playing at Camp Nou, Barcelona will try to do their best to secure their position in the first place.

It's clear they have to win this match even without Lewandwoski there. because if indeed they fail to reach this point it will obviously make them a little troubled especially Madrid will also be Valladolid which they can actually still beat. On the other hand, many people here already believe that Barcelona can, at least they don't give up on those people's hopes Cheesy

Because if they don't get full points, it's very likely that Madrid will immediately reclaim their position.

If you want to be at the top of the points table, you have to keep winning. If you don't perform well consistently, you won't be able to top the points table. Barcelona and Madrid are not strong opponents in the upcoming matches. If they lose points against weaker teams, winning the title will become difficult. I think the performance of the teams will be a little unstable after a long break.

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Quote from: skarais on December 27, 2022, 07:56:09 AM

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A draw is clearly not Barcelona's goal when facing Espanyol let alone losing. They are only two points ahead of Real Madrid who are in second place, Xavi will not waste the opportunity for an additional three points even though he cannot play Lewandowski in this match. Xavi still has several reliable strikers, the situation will not make it difficult for Barcelona especially when they are playing at Camp Nou, Barcelona will try to do their best to secure their position in the first place.

Barcelona are favorites to win the game even though they look worried without Lewandowski. In fact, Espanyol has also often made it difficult for Barcelona in its last 5 matches where Espanyol managed to force Barcelona to draw 2 times. But overall, Barcelona definitely have a good record against Espanyol with 33 wins, 11 draws and 5 losses according to sources.

Anyways Barcelona so far is very strong at home, they have never lost and also never conceded from 7 league match. Barcelona only draw 1 of their 7 home matches at Laliga, while they managed to score 17 goals. I know it's a good record, and I hope they can keep it up.

Yes, Barcelona have always played aggressively at home and maintained a winning streak. Even without Lewandowski, there are players capable of scoring goals and Barca can be expected to win.

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Benzema has finally recovered from his injury which is great news for Real Madrid. I can't say it like they were too bad in his absence. They were still scoring goals but they lost points in really unexpected matches quite often in the La Liga as well. Maybe if Benzema played in those matches then the things might have been different. Real Madrid are still in need of his services quite much these days. Because they don't have a proper substitute striker to fill his place well for now.

Rodrygo can play there but he isn't a natural striker. He showed this by his performance so far as well. I don't mean that he was too bad but he wasn't able to score goals as many as Benzema. Mariano seems like the only natural striker in the subs but he is much worse than these two players.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 27, 2022, 08:31:04 AM

It seems that Atletico Madrid will find it a bit difficult in this match, I don't mean to underestimate Atletico Madrid considering their performance has been quite bad this season and maybe Elche will be a tough opponent for them. Even though Elche is at the bottom of the board, of course they also want to get better results in order to lift their standings and keep them away from the relegation zone this season.

I don't think so, you probably won't see Atletico Madrid lose against Elche. Atletico Madrid must improve so that this season is more competitive, that is mandatory because if not Diego Simeone's position as coach will be threatened. You can expect Atletico Madrid to win that match, they had to after the first half they dropped so many points.

So far there have been reports that Atletico Madrid are planning to get a replacement for Diego Simeone, but if Diego Simeone is really able to make Atletico Madrid rise for the rest of the season then of course he will be retained. Luis Enrique is reportedly getting the attention of Atletico Madrid, but I don't expect it to be soon.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on December 27, 2022, 11:13:52 AM

Quote from: mamesso on December 27, 2022, 12:32:32 AM

Quote from: baeva on December 26, 2022, 03:20:48 PM

I do not have the slightest doubt that Barcelona will not be difficult, the maximum that can happen is a draw in one of the matches, but clearly not a defeat. So the situation in the standings will continue to be difficult. They do not depend heavily on Lewandowski, so it will not be difficult to rebuild the lineup, it is their main advantage

A draw is clearly not Barcelona's goal when facing Espanyol let alone losing. They are only two points ahead of Real Madrid who are in second place, Xavi will not waste the opportunity for an additional three points even though he cannot play Lewandowski in this match. Xavi still has several reliable strikers, the situation will not make it difficult for Barcelona especially when they are playing at Camp Nou, Barcelona will try to do their best to secure their position in the first place.

It's clear they have to win this match even without Lewandwoski there. because if indeed they fail to reach this point it will obviously make them a little troubled especially Madrid will also be Valladolid which they can actually still beat. On the other hand, many people here already believe that Barcelona can, at least they don't give up on those people's hopes Cheesy

Because if they don't get full points, it's very likely that Madrid will immediately reclaim their position.

At Barca, there are young talented players like Gavi Pedri Rafinha. Which is capable of scoring goals in addition to Niwandeiski. So it is expected that Barca will not lose points at home.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 27, 2022, 12:32:32 AM

Quote from: baeva on December 26, 2022, 03:20:48 PM

I do not have the slightest doubt that Barcelona will not be difficult, the maximum that can happen is a draw in one of the matches, but clearly not a defeat. So the situation in the standings will continue to be difficult. They do not depend heavily on Lewandowski, so it will not be difficult to rebuild the lineup, it is their main advantage

A draw is clearly not Barcelona's goal when facing Espanyol let alone losing. They are only two points ahead of Real Madrid who are in second place, Xavi will not waste the opportunity for an additional three points even though he cannot play Lewandowski in this match. Xavi still has several reliable strikers, the situation will not make it difficult for Barcelona especially when they are playing at Camp Nou, Barcelona will try to do their best to secure their position in the first place.

It's clear they have to win this match even without Lewandwoski there. because if indeed they fail to reach this point it will obviously make them a little troubled especially Madrid will also be Valladolid which they can actually still beat. On the other hand, many people here already believe that Barcelona can, at least they don't give up on those people's hopes Cheesy

Because if they don't get full points, it's very likely that Madrid will immediately reclaim their position.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 27, 2022, 12:32:32 AM

Quote from: baeva on December 26, 2022, 03:20:48 PM

I do not have the slightest doubt that Barcelona will not be difficult, the maximum that can happen is a draw in one of the matches, but clearly not a defeat. So the situation in the standings will continue to be difficult. They do not depend heavily on Lewandowski, so it will not be difficult to rebuild the lineup, it is their main advantage

A draw is clearly not Barcelona's goal when facing Espanyol let alone losing. They are only two points ahead of Real Madrid who are in second place, Xavi will not waste the opportunity for an additional three points even though he cannot play Lewandowski in this match. Xavi still has several reliable strikers, the situation will not make it difficult for Barcelona especially when they are playing at Camp Nou, Barcelona will try to do their best to secure their position in the first place.

I hope so too. Because Barca have players to score goals apart from Lewandowski and never want to lose points at home.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 27, 2022, 08:41:21 AM

I don't think Atletico will have big problems against Elche. their performance is declining. but from the last 2 matches carried out by Atletico after the world cup break, they showed a pretty good game.
so facing Elche, I don't think it will be a barrier for Atletico to get the win.

Of course, everyone will definitely support Atletico against Elche later. But caution and vigilance must also be added, even though facing a bottom-of-the-table team, we don't know much about whether Atletico Madrid will be able to defend its last victory or not, even so, Atletico Madrid must get maximum points if you don't want to be shifted by a team that is at the bottom of the standings.

Quote from: Die_empty on December 27, 2022, 09:05:21 AM

Elche have not been impressive in thier performance this season. They have a very weak attack that have failed to score in four of thier six La Liga matches. Atletico Madrid might not have been very impressive this season like it was last season but Elche might not be able to stop them from clinching the victory in this match. Nevertheless, Atletico Madrid need to put more effort if they want to be in the Champions League next season. Winning the la Liga would be a very big task for them because they are thirteen points below the current league leaders Barcelona and other top teams like Real Madrid and Real Soceidad equally have strong squads.

Maybe from those six matches Elche looked very bad, but for a team there will definitely be a period when they will rise. I don't know if they will start against Atletico Madrid or another team, that day will definitely come. Speaking of champions league places, Atletico may be having a bit of trouble this season especially as close competitors Athletic club and Real Sociedad continue to stick to the top four positions, making it possible it will be difficult to shift this season for Atletico.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 27, 2022, 08:58:35 AM

I don't think the transfer policy with their strategy has anything to do with that. If they play more attacking of course they will be able to because there are lots of players in their attack line like Griezmann, Felix or Morata who are actually very good but Simeone is still happy with his defensive style even though if we see they are very bad there.
Their 2021 season looks much more aggressive with their midfield which always manages to dominate the field but for now it seems lost because they are only focused on waiting in defense.

In fact, it does. In 2020-21 Simeone had Trippier, Partey, and Suarez as his best players in each position, but after they left, he still can't find the suitable players to fill those positions until today. In the other side, Trippier is performing well with Newcastle, Partey dominating the middle area of Arsenal, and Suarez is still in good shape as a 35 yo player. Griezmann? I was quite surprised knowing Simeone trying to get him back. Felix is too overpriced, and Morata over Suarez? Silly transfer. If he at least tried to keep Suarez, I think Atletico still could be a problem for both Barcelona and Madrid.

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