La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3004.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on December 16, 2022, 12:36:05 AM

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Well even with enough cash at hand if club management fails to lay their hand on the right squad there may end up spending a lot of. money and no result will be seen, but if there is the proper use and the right player selections by clubs little amount will be spent to get young players with desired energy to produce results on the pitch.

I agree with you, that is why many teams are still progressing in this season because their managements spend a huge amount of money on a talented players that is helping the team to achieve what they want. Example, Napoli managements spend money to sign in potential attackers that is giving them a good results to be part of those teams that are in a good position to win this la Liga league title. Example, Manchester city are still maintaining their performance from the beginning of this tournament, because their management spend a huge amount of money to sign in Haaland which they are enjoying his performance in this season.

Which might be able to help talk a lot about the quality of the players that were brought in. But sometimes they also fail to get performance from players who have high transfer values. If you look at Manchester City and Napoli, maybe indeed they can be said to be successful in signing talented players, but that is only part of the successful teams. Just look at Liverpool, who this season brought in players on the front lines. But they do not share the same fate as Manchester City. There luck also speaks a lot in my opinion.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 15, 2022, 06:10:55 PM

I also think that this transfer is open to discussion now. A deal worth 72 milion euros in total is really huge for a 16-year-old player. Real Madrid scouts must be thinking like Endrick is one of the probable future legends or something like that. Otherwise this deal would be like madness for them. Because they could have used this money to strengthen the team in January as well.

There are so many talents waiting to be discovered in Brazil actually. I hope Endrick becomes one of them and makes us watch great performances. I would be glad to see him being very successful at young age just as Haaland is now.

Real Madrid seems with long term investment after reach agreement deal transfer Endrick and have to pay more than 72 Million Euro, actually due La Liga and European regulation, Madrid need waiting until two years later and Endrick have 18 years old to be Real Madrid player. Not first time spent much money for recruiting young talented, have memorize with Vinicius Jr contract with expensive transfer values and he still at young age before become talented player right now.

Nowadays, Real Madrid still have problem with center forward and spent more than 73 million euro seems not effective, actually have spent 72 million euro for sign new center forward and can replace Karim Benzema position after many time absent due injured.

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Quote from: makishart on December 16, 2022, 12:58:25 AM

Quote from: koang on December 15, 2022, 09:41:47 PM

Barca's problem is the president, Juan Laporta. Laporta the politician.
Messi was used to win the election and then kicked out by Laporta with pique's advice.
Laporta is as useless as Barca players going to the national team. This is everything we need to know about Barca.
Barcelona selling clothes now. Broke club. lol

I guess that laporta was also doing shady things to the barcelona's financial pretty much the same like what happened with ac milan. La porta was selling barcelona's tv right with very cheap price and barcelona will not have any income from there.
I thought that the financial clever that already taken by barcelona was shady trick by laporta to get money. https://www.eldesmarque.com/barcelona/fc-barcelona/noticias/204558-joan-laporta-destroza-al-barcelona-y-regala-a-los-dos-mejores-del-mundial-por-un-precio-ridiculo

I agree, but I would like to point out that it is not just the current president, he has had disastrous presidents for some time now. Laporta in this case has taken a flight forward, something like the one who is drowning in loans, takes a payday loan as a last resort to see if a miracle happens to help him out of the situation.

Barcelona has a lot at stake this season, as a mediocre result could lead to profound changes in the club's structure. And I am not only referring to the sporting structure, but also to the club's corporate structure.

At the moment it seems to be going well, we will see how things continue now that the games resume in a couple of weeks.

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Quote from: koang on December 15, 2022, 09:41:47 PM

Quote from: Rockstarguy on December 15, 2022, 05:52:56 PM

Barcelona sacking Xavi can be the worst decision to take that will lead to regret. If xavi is sacked who knows the next coach will even become worst than xavi. Barcelona needs to be patient with xavi to see the best that can come from him. If Barcelona sacks xavi the team can be like Barcelona of the days of Ronald Koeman. Xavi is a good coach that Barcelona needs, the problem of Barcelona is not xavi. The problem of Barcelona is finance to sign in best players. When a team has players that good their is no how their wont be outcome of good result in every match.

Barca's problem is the president, Juan Laporta. Laporta the politician.
Messi was used to win the election and then kicked out by Laporta with pique's advice.
Laporta is as useless as Barca players going to the national team. This is everything we need to know about Barca.
Barcelona selling clothes now. Broke club. lol

I guess that laporta was also doing shady things to the barcelona's financial pretty much the same like what happened with ac milan. La porta was selling barcelona's tv right with very cheap price and barcelona will not have any income from there.
I thought that the financial clever that already taken by barcelona was shady trick by laporta to get money. https://www.eldesmarque.com/barcelona/fc-barcelona/noticias/204558-joan-laporta-destroza-al-barcelona-y-regala-a-los-dos-mejores-del-mundial-por-un-precio-ridiculo

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Well even with enough cash at hand if club management fails to lay their hand on the right squad there may end up spending a lot of. money and no result will be seen, but if there is the proper use and the right player selections by clubs little amount will be spent to get young players with desired energy to produce results on the pitch.

I agree with you, that is why many teams are still progressing in this season because their managements spend a huge amount of money on a talented players that is helping the team to achieve what they want. Example, Napoli managements spend money to sign in potential attackers that is giving them a good results to be part of those teams that are in a good position to win this la Liga league title. Example, Manchester city are still maintaining their performance from the beginning of this tournament, because their management spend a huge amount of money to sign in Haaland which they are enjoying his performance in this season.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on December 15, 2022, 06:44:49 PM

Barcelona is trying to improve its reputation by winning in La Liga and in this way it is hoped that Barcelona will be able to get new investors or additional funds for their team because with their achievements they should be able to increase funds and make Barcelona's finances recover.

The new investors mean that Barcelona is already owned by another entity but it's not owned by members again. Barcelona was not owned private entity and don't you know this? Barcelona will not be able to get huge funds since the billionaire will not be able to acquire barcelona because the share that has already been sold is still less than 51%. The only chance for barcelona to get another fresh fund must be coming from selling the remaining shares to the big investors who will be able to acquire the clubs.
Barcelona has a very large debt and that will be the hardest thing to recover. Even the billionaire who wanna to buy the club must also pay the debt.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on December 15, 2022, 05:52:56 PM

Barcelona sacking Xavi can be the worst decision to take that will lead to regret. If xavi is sacked who knows the next coach will even become worst than xavi. Barcelona needs to be patient with xavi to see the best that can come from him. If Barcelona sacks xavi the team can be like Barcelona of the days of Ronald Koeman. Xavi is a good coach that Barcelona needs, the problem of Barcelona is not xavi. The problem of Barcelona is finance to sign in best players. When a team has players that good their is no how their wont be outcome of good result in every match.

Barca's problem is the president, Juan Laporta. Laporta the politician.
Messi was used to win the election and then kicked out by Laporta with pique's advice.
Laporta is as useless as Barca players going to the national team. This is everything we need to know about Barca.
Barcelona selling clothes now. Broke club. lol

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Quote from: Google+ on December 14, 2022, 06:05:45 AM

the laliga competition is not as interesting as it used to be when I saw it because only 2 teams looked strong compared to the other teams. if it goes on like this I think that there will be less and less fans or spectators in the Laliga and will be more inclined to watch the EPL.

I know you're referring to the Ronaldo-Messi era in la Liga, but still, Real Madrid and Barcelona were even way more lethal than they are right now. Both team could score 5 or 6 goals almost every passing week, with Messi and Ronaldo bagging hat tricks or braces

I think the argument of a league being interesting is subjective. EPL has an advantage because they get way more media coverage than any other leagues, so the money flows in. If you talk about competitiveness, there are so many leagues that are way more competitive than EPL.

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Quote from: AakZaki on December 14, 2022, 02:20:37 PM

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the laliga competition is not as interesting as it used to be when I saw it because only 2 teams looked strong compared to the other teams. if it goes on like this I think that there will be less and less fans or spectators in the Laliga and will be more inclined to watch the EPL.

Maybe it can happen, but I think there are always fans in every competition of one of the countries of the world. Messi and Ronaldo used to be an attraction, there was always drama in every season.
At this time, the arrival of Lewandowski, and several other players certainly gave a different kind of appeal. So I think La Liga will stay alive with the players that are there. That problem of dominance also occurred in Germany and some other countries. But their League is still running and entertaining some of its fans.

I don't think Lalliga is dominated by only two teams,there are other teams too that are very good,and they are competing seriously with the two teams that one might seem are the dominant team,which is Real Madrid and Barcelona,but we forget to know that Athletico Madrid and teams like Sevilla are still there.As it stands now,Madrid and Barca are standing infront so it makes people think the both teams are the only teams dominating,but it's not like that,it is the German bundesliga that I see a particular team dominate because they are the only team that wins the league every season,so you can call that dominance.

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Quote from: bekti3 on December 15, 2022, 03:50:58 PM

I agree with this because especially it would be very funny if Barcelona now, who are sure to lose financially because they failed in the Champions League, still think that the Europa League is not very important, even though this can be used as an option to make them get a little advantage to offset losses. gained from their failures.

Barcelona is trying to improve its reputation by winning in La Liga and in this way it is hoped that Barcelona will be able to get new investors or additional funds for their team because with their achievements they should be able to increase funds and make Barcelona's finances recover.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on December 15, 2022, 04:03:31 PM

Meanwhile, Real Madrid bought 16-year-old Endrick from Palmeiras, but he will be able to sign a contract once he turns 18. Now, player transfers at a young age are starting to happen very early. It's debatable how reasonable it's to give 60 million Euro and 12 million Euro bonus to a 16-year-old player.

I also think that this transfer is open to discussion now. A deal worth 72 milion euros in total is really huge for a 16-year-old player. Real Madrid scouts must be thinking like Endrick is one of the probable future legends or something like that. Otherwise this deal would be like madness for them. Because they could have used this money to strengthen the team in January as well.

There are so many talents waiting to be discovered in Brazil actually. I hope Endrick becomes one of them and makes us watch great performances. I would be glad to see him being very successful at young age just as Haaland is now.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on December 15, 2022, 03:19:46 PM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 15, 2022, 07:16:39 AM

Maybe the scenario won't be as complicated as we discussed. I am sure that Xavi does not work alone. there are officials, assistant coaches, and everyone is clearly involved in rebuilding Barcelona to its former glory. On the other hand, like it or not, Barcelona had to sell a number of other players and some of them ended up this season. like one of them, Busquets whose contract is about to expire. after all, he really underperformed. other names such as Jordi Alba, who has been widely rumored after Barcelona was eliminated from the Champions League.

IMO, Xavi really has a very complicated job, besides he has the burden of winning the La Liga trophy, plus the Europa League. however, I agree that Barcelona should sell some of its players and replace them with newcomers. Regarding the back line, I think they will make changes once this season rolls back up.

The problem is Barcelona did not have substandard coaches before. But they were not able to bring out the true potential of the players. Xavi has the capability to do that. I know that a lot of people are saying that Barcelona will have to win because otherwise Xavi might actually be fired. But the problem is Barcelona cannot afford to sack Xavi. And imagine Barcelona actually does that, who will they bring in next?

Unless they can bring in Zidane I don’t see how sacking Xavi is not going to be the correct decision. And I think he is doing a good job. In my opinion, even if Barcelona ends up finishing as the second team in La Liga, I don't think it is too bad of an outcome.

Barcelona sacking Xavi can be the worst decision to take that will lead to regret. If xavi is sacked who knows the next coach will even become worst than xavi. Barcelona needs to be patient with xavi to see the best that can come from him. If Barcelona sacks xavi the team can be like Barcelona of the days of Ronald Koeman. Xavi is a good coach that Barcelona needs, the problem of Barcelona is not xavi. The problem of Barcelona is finance to sign in best players. When a team has players that good their is no how their wont be outcome of good result in every match.

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Quote from: RILWAN on December 15, 2022, 05:04:24 PM

Well even with enough cash at hand if club management fails to lay their hand on the right squad there may end up spending a lot of. money and no result will be seen, but if there is the proper use and the right player selections by clubs little amount will be spent to get young players with desired energy to produce results on the pitch.

Right, that's why management must consider the potential owner by the player so many times before try to buy it. I meant there are bunch of stories about players have good performance in the old club but they are not even able to perform so well during his journey with the new club. There have been some clubs who have been making failed transfers caused by lack of observation before try to buy the player from another club. that's why buying the player must be about betting to the players itself. Any club must try to did various observation to the new player

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Well even with enough cash at hand if club management fails to lay their hand on the right squad there may end up spending a lot of. money and no result will be seen, but if there is the proper use and the right player selections by clubs little amount will be spent to get young players with desired energy to produce results on the pitch.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 15, 2022, 05:36:28 AM

Looking at the current conditions, it seems that this is indeed important, but the problem is that Xavi doesn't pay much attention to this and doesn't seem to care much, even though if you look at the current conditions, Pique is not there, plus next season, the possibility of losing Alba and Busquets, they should be prepared from now on. but Xavi is only focused on their attack line, there are even rumors today that they will also bring in a striker again.

This will look lame actually when a good line of attack is not accompanied by a good line of defense, so of course the results will be a little difficult even though the best defense is to attack but we also have to be aware that an imbalance occurs for a team so it will be difficult for them to navigate the season.

Looking at how much money they already spent, and looking at how much salary would be emptied by those players being gone, that means that they will have a chance to get a good amount of players for those positions. Their centre back is already covered, Pique is already gone and they are playing, Alba and Busquets could be gone and with that salary cap and transfer fee they will spend, they could get 2 great players there.

I do not think that it really matters to Xavi because he knows he could get great players. Look at last summer, they were said to be doing no transfers at all due to financial issues, and they spent 100+ million on this team even with that issue.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on December 15, 2022, 03:59:07 PM

I'm getting really worried about Atletico Madrid's future as long as they keep showing this performance. They had a horrible run in the Champions League by finishing the group stage as the last placed team. They have only the La Liga as a big tournament they are competing in now. Even in the La Liga they are doing pretty bad. They are already like out of the competition for the league championship. They weren't like this in the previous seasons. They were the champions of the 2020/21 season and had really good runs before that season as well.

You don't need to worry about this. Atletico Madrid will finish this season without any success. Teams don't have to be successful every season. This season, Barcelona will not give up the La Liga championship. Real Madrid will push them a bit, but Atletico is unlikely to be a competitor in the race.
Meanwhile, Real Madrid bought 16-year-old Endrick from Palmeiras, but he will be able to sign a contract once he turns 18. Now, player transfers at a young age are starting to happen very early. It's debatable how reasonable it's to give 60 million Euro and 12 million Euro bonus to a 16-year-old player.

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I'm getting really worried about Atletico Madrid's future as long as they keep showing this performance. They had a horrible run in the Champions League by finishing the group stage as the last placed team. They have only the La Liga as a big tournament they are competing in now. Even in the La Liga they are doing pretty bad. They are already like out of the competition for the league championship. They weren't like this in the previous seasons. They were the champions of the 2020/21 season and had really good runs before that season as well.

It looks like Simeone's tactics don't work with the team anymore. They need new things as a solution to this bad look. And Simeone doesn't seem like he is intending to make big changes yet. Let's see how things go between him and the team by the end of the season.

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Quote from: hahay on December 15, 2022, 10:59:28 AM

In essence, if a team feels unimportant in playing in a certain tournament, then they can go and let their opponent walk out (WO) to win, does Barcelona dare to do that?
If Barcelona thinks the Europa League is not important, then let the opposing team win and Barcelona don't need to come to the field or don't need to come to the match, and at least that way Barcelona doesn't need to spend money.

I agree with this because especially it would be very funny if Barcelona now, who are sure to lose financially because they failed in the Champions League, still think that the Europa League is not very important, even though this can be used as an option to make them get a little advantage to offset losses. gained from their failures.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on December 15, 2022, 03:19:46 PM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 15, 2022, 07:16:39 AM

Maybe the scenario won't be as complicated as we discussed. I am sure that Xavi does not work alone. there are officials, assistant coaches, and everyone is clearly involved in rebuilding Barcelona to its former glory. On the other hand, like it or not, Barcelona had to sell a number of other players and some of them ended up this season. like one of them, Busquets whose contract is about to expire. after all, he really underperformed. other names such as Jordi Alba, who has been widely rumored after Barcelona was eliminated from the Champions League.

IMO, Xavi really has a very complicated job, besides he has the burden of winning the La Liga trophy, plus the Europa League. however, I agree that Barcelona should sell some of its players and replace them with newcomers. Regarding the back line, I think they will make changes once this season rolls back up.

The problem is Barcelona did not have substandard coaches before. But they were not able to bring out the true potential of the players. Xavi has the capability to do that. I know that a lot of people are saying that Barcelona will have to win because otherwise Xavi might actually be fired. But the problem is Barcelona cannot afford to sack Xavi. And imagine Barcelona actually does that, who will they bring in next?

Unless they can bring in Zidane I don’t see how sacking Xavi is not going to be the correct decision. And I think he is doing a good job. In my opinion, even if Barcelona ends up finishing as the second team in La Liga, I don't think it is too bad of an outcome.

I think when I say the previous coach was below standard it's also a bit inaccurate because looking at Koeman's condition actually he's also a good coach and it's proven that he won several titles in the Eredivisie but Barcelona and him have a mismatch and it's too short so things like season happen. yesterday.
As for Xavi, he knows what he has to do because he already knows the ins and outs of Barcelona so it becomes easy to direct but right now I also can't say that Xavi is a good coach especially since there hasn't been any achievement for him other than bringing Barcelona to better direction than last season but not a guarantee. As long as he still doesn't get a trophy he is still nothing and this season is a betting season for Xavi because if he doesn't bring a trophy he will also be labeled a failure.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 15, 2022, 07:16:39 AM

Maybe the scenario won't be as complicated as we discussed. I am sure that Xavi does not work alone. there are officials, assistant coaches, and everyone is clearly involved in rebuilding Barcelona to its former glory. On the other hand, like it or not, Barcelona had to sell a number of other players and some of them ended up this season. like one of them, Busquets whose contract is about to expire. after all, he really underperformed. other names such as Jordi Alba, who has been widely rumored after Barcelona was eliminated from the Champions League.

IMO, Xavi really has a very complicated job, besides he has the burden of winning the La Liga trophy, plus the Europa League. however, I agree that Barcelona should sell some of its players and replace them with newcomers. Regarding the back line, I think they will make changes once this season rolls back up.

The problem is Barcelona did not have substandard coaches before. But they were not able to bring out the true potential of the players. Xavi has the capability to do that. I know that a lot of people are saying that Barcelona will have to win because otherwise Xavi might actually be fired. But the problem is Barcelona cannot afford to sack Xavi. And imagine Barcelona actually does that, who will they bring in next?

Unless they can bring in Zidane I don’t see how sacking Xavi is not going to be the correct decision. And I think he is doing a good job. In my opinion, even if Barcelona ends up finishing as the second team in La Liga, I don't think it is too bad of an outcome.

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