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This is what I want us to understand but many Barcelona fans won't let us hear word since Barcelona won against Real Madrid, The season is long and if we can remember a season that Barcelona defeated Real Madrid with 4 goals Real Madrid won the league title and still won champion league, Real Madrid is still the team we should trust they can surprise us any time, Barcelona has been defeated by the small team this season and that doesn't mean that if they meet any strong opponents they won't defeat Barcelona again, I know they are having a good performance this season but I believe if Real Madrid serious in the game against Barcelona Barcelona will not win the match.

Even Barcelona did not believe that they would defeat Real Madrid because From the beginning of the match, Real Madrid was playing very well but in the second everything changed which allowed Barcelona to create chances and score goals, in the next El Clasico I don't think Barcelona will win the game easily because Real Madrid will play well as they have know-how Barcelona use to play, in the game I also observe that the Absent of Rodrygo and Courtios affect the team.
Barcelona began to score in the second half, and the first half was equal even with the advantage of Real Madrid, they were more aimed at the attack. The attack of Barcelona is now very good, and the victory over Real was not the only one, in the match with Bavaria they did the same, these were two big victories in one week. It is true, so far this does not mean that they won La Liga, but this indicates that the team is in excellent shape now, and Flik managed to raise the team spirit very well, which is very important for further victories.
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In my opinion, their decision not to attend the Ballon d'Or award ceremony was a childish decision, in fact it was the right decision for the Real Madrid team to reprimand or mock UEFA in giving the award, how could Vini and Ancelotti last season have good results but in reality they failed to get it which actually fell to them Vini as the winner of the Ballon d'Or.

Although that did not happen to Vini's fate this season, in my opinion it will be difficult for him to get it next season because many suspect that Real Madrid does not have a good relationship with UEFA, and that could be the main factor why Vini did not get it and the most difficult to express is that skin color is also very difficult for Vini, I read in some fan comments that it is the basis of UEFA, it is also very unfortunate for Vini this season to fail to get it.

About the Ballon d'Or, i wonder, what exactly are the specific criteria to become a winner? because as far as i know, players who get the Ballon d'Or must be players who have good performance & also win titles in various competitions.

The Ballon d'Or is not an award that is specifically for competitions in the European league, but must also be accompanied by achievements at the international level. Vini didn't get anything with Brazil, while Rodri managed to bring Spain to win the EURO.
The Ballon d'Or should indeed be given to a player who not only shows outstanding individual performance, but also contributes significantly to the success of his team, both at the club and international level, Rodri, with his achievements leading Spain to win the euro, clearly has an advantage in terms of team achievements in international competitions, while Vinicius has so far only been able to perform quite well with Madrid,  But he can't bring Brazil to win a trophy, I personally will choice Rodri who deserves to win that the trophy than Vinicius, but I doubt is precisely if we compare who is worthy ballon d'or betwen Rodri or Lautaro Martinez who also performed very impressively with InterMilan and Argentina?
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Alaves vs Mallorca

This is quite an interesting match and can be betting option, Alaves is playing at home but they have performed poorly for the start of this season with 11 match that have been played, so far Alaves only has 3 win and is ranked 16th, while Mallorca has shown quite significant development by achieving 5 wins and in the last match they were even able to hold Bilbao to draw even though they had received 1 red card in the first half.
On the other hand, Mallorca also has very tough defense and has been proven in all match which shows they have never conceded more than 2 goal, I believe in Mallorca and take them as the favorites who give odds @3.00.

Looking at the statistics of this season, Mallorca, although they will play as the away team, have an advantage over Alaves. Alaves also suffered consecutive defeats and made them have to be in an unsatisfactory ranking. While Mallorca is currently in 7th place.
I think you made the right choice by betting on Mallorca and the odds are also quite tempting. I might also bet on this match, or on several matches that will be played this week. I myself prefer multi bets, it's more exciting for me, yes, even though I experience more defeats. Lol
Multi bet has a greater risk but it will be worth it with all the possibilities.

If you look at it as a whole, Mallorca is indeed better in quality than Alaves, but Alaves will play at home so they have much higher motivation so that it is possible for Alaves to rise in this match.
And for betting options with odds @3, of course choosing Mallorca to win is the right step, it will bring very tempting profits.
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About the Ballon d'Or, i wonder, what exactly are the specific criteria to become a winner? because as far as i know, players who get the Ballon d'Or must be players who have good performance & also win titles in various competitions.

The Ballon d'Or is not an award that is specifically for competitions in the European league, but must also be accompanied by achievements at the international level. Vini didn't get anything with Brazil, while Rodri managed to bring Spain to win the EURO.

As far as I know the winner of the Ballon d'Or depends on several factors. such as -

  • Individual performances
  • Decisive and impressive character
  • Team success, performances and achievements 
  • Player behaviour
  • Class and fair play

The winner of the Ballon d'Or is determined based on these factors. The Ballon d'Or is not awarded based on performance alone. A panel of 100 journalists from different countries all had their say on who should be the Ballon d'Or winners. The winner of the Ballon d'Or is not decided by UEFA alone. It was selected by voting by 100 experienced journalists. So I think Real Madrid should not only blame UEFA.
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Reaching title is far yet, we can't really consider that is done already and talk about Barcelona like they are the winners. Sure they had a great game against Real Madrid, but lets remember this is the same team that lost against Monaco as well. So, we can't really consider how they are doing right now as success, that is not the point and we have so many more games to play. When there are 20+ more games to play, as in 60+ more points to be earned, we can't say anything yet. We are getting into November, and this is why it's a risky move to predict the winner yet.

We need to be careful and we can do fine when the league ends and we see them as winners, until then it's always a risk and we can't really call anyone the winner yet. Who knows, maybe Barcelona will end up losing a bunch of points in a row? Like get 2 draws and a loss, sometimes teams have bad streaks so it's not really a complicated thing and we need to consider this as a possibility as well.

This is what I want us to understand but many Barcelona fans won't let us hear word since Barcelona won against Real Madrid, The season is long and if we can remember a season that Barcelona defeated Real Madrid with 4 goals Real Madrid won the league title and still won champion league, Real Madrid is still the team we should trust they can surprise us any time, Barcelona has been defeated by the small team this season and that doesn't mean that if they meet any strong opponents they won't defeat Barcelona again, I know they are having a good performance this season but I believe if Real Madrid serious in the game against Barcelona Barcelona will not win the match.

Even Barcelona did not believe that they would defeat Real Madrid because From the beginning of the match, Real Madrid was playing very well but in the second everything changed which allowed Barcelona to create chances and score goals, in the next El Clasico I don't think Barcelona will win the game easily because Real Madrid will play well as they have know-how Barcelona use to play, in the game I also observe that the Absent of Rodrygo and Courtios affect the team.
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In my opinion, their decision not to attend the Ballon d'Or award ceremony was a childish decision, in fact it was the right decision for the Real Madrid team to reprimand or mock UEFA in giving the award, how could Vini and Ancelotti last season have good results but in reality they failed to get it which actually fell to them Vini as the winner of the Ballon d'Or.

Although that did not happen to Vini's fate this season, in my opinion it will be difficult for him to get it next season because many suspect that Real Madrid does not have a good relationship with UEFA, and that could be the main factor why Vini did not get it and the most difficult to express is that skin color is also very difficult for Vini, I read in some fan comments that it is the basis of UEFA, it is also very unfortunate for Vini this season to fail to get it.

About the Ballon d'Or, i wonder, what exactly are the specific criteria to become a winner? because as far as i know, players who get the Ballon d'Or must be players who have good performance & also win titles in various competitions.

The Ballon d'Or is not an award that is specifically for competitions in the European league, but must also be accompanied by achievements at the international level. Vini didn't get anything with Brazil, while Rodri managed to bring Spain to win the EURO.
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Alaves vs Mallorca

This is quite an interesting match and can be betting option, Alaves is playing at home but they have performed poorly for the start of this season with 11 match that have been played, so far Alaves only has 3 win and is ranked 16th, while Mallorca has shown quite significant development by achieving 5 wins and in the last match they were even able to hold Bilbao to draw even though they had received 1 red card in the first half.
On the other hand, Mallorca also has very tough defense and has been proven in all match which shows they have never conceded more than 2 goal, I believe in Mallorca and take them as the favorites who give odds @3.00.

Looking at the statistics of this season, Mallorca, although they will play as the away team, have an advantage over Alaves. Alaves also suffered consecutive defeats and made them have to be in an unsatisfactory ranking. While Mallorca is currently in 7th place.
I think you made the right choice by betting on Mallorca and the odds are also quite tempting. I might also bet on this match, or on several matches that will be played this week. I myself prefer multi bets, it's more exciting for me, yes, even though I experience more defeats. Lol
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Real Madrid team was the best team this season and after Mbappé came to Real Madrid no one had any doubts about Real Madrid's attacking line but everyone said that Real Madrid can beat every club in Europe with this team. However, I don't see Real Madrid performing very well in La Liga or Champions League recently. Real Madrid played at their home venue against Barcelona where they were beaten 4-0 by Barcelona. Before the defeat against Barcelona, no one thought that Barcelona could beat Real Madrid by such a big margin. The club has some injury problems which could also be the reason for their poor performance. But the team that Real Madrid fielded against Barcelona was definitely the best team and Real Madrid should have won against Barcelona with that team.
Oh no, I don't think Real Madrid have the strongest squad this season. The strong element is not a team with many stars. It's a team with all the elements.
The definition of “the strongest football team in the world” is always a controversial topic because it takes into account many factors and each person has a different point of view. For the current situation of Real Madrid, I just consider Real Madrid as the most expensive team today.
If we talk about Barcelona, ​​I believe they are the strongest team at the moment. The perfect combination of coach Hansi Flick's tactics, key players, and young talents is perfect. Real Madrid are lacking the unity factor that would make them a real monster.
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Mbappe's arrival has badly impacted Real Madrid. It's proven by how bad his performance was against Barcelona. There's no excuse for Mbappe, one of the world's best, to be caught offside so often by a bunch of young players.

It shows how lazy he was, and it's very infuriating that he repeated it 8 times. That's crazy to see how a world-class player could not even be aware of the offside trap.

Even if Real Madrid replaces its coach, it won't change the situation a lot.
I will not judge like you, Mbappe's arrival has no bad impact, in my opinion the loss of Toni Kross has a bad impact on Real Madrid's midfield. Mbappe is a potential striker who is also experienced, but in this match he was still caught in the offside trap many times. The only way to eliminate the offside trap is to use a creative midfielder (like Toni Kross) and must have chemistry with his striker. Real Madrid's current weakness, apart from the lack of defenders, they have not found a replacement like Toni Kross.

On the other hand, if we talk about Mbappe's Offside problem, it does not mean that Mbappe has a bad impact on Real Madrid. This is the fault of the coach who was unable to outsmart Barcelona's offside trap. In addition, because Barcelona's defense line is very disciplined, even though they are in the middle of the field, I who watched it emphasized how they set offside traps. Seeing Barcelona's way of defending is very neat and pleasing to the eye. Flick has succeeded in creating art in defense.
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What I have noticed is that Real Madrid have the players on individual basis but they still lack that team work needed to achieve consistency. The coming of Mbappe have altered the team playing pattern a little as each of the individuals are playing independently,  probably playing to showcase themselves and prove that they deserve a place in their first eleven. Therefore is is now for the coach to swing into action and bring some kind of team work among them because that is the only way they can achieve consistency without which they will not make much progress this season.

Real Madrid performance is not really good this season; they are experiencing a hard time currently. However, I think you are right; every player wants to show how good they are in the squad, and that is why there is no teamwork in their performance, and normally in order to achieve goals and the kind of performance we are expecting from them, they need teamwork to get to that level, but they all want to show how good they are, and that won’t help the team.

Ancelloti needs to wake up and make the necessary corrections before it's too late for them. I believe once Barcelona score more goals and they lose more, there will be more margin, and that may be hard for Real Madrid to catch up.
Real Madrid team was the best team this season and after Mbappé came to Real Madrid no one had any doubts about Real Madrid's attacking line but everyone said that Real Madrid can beat every club in Europe with this team. However, I don't see Real Madrid performing very well in La Liga or Champions League recently. Real Madrid played at their home venue against Barcelona where they were beaten 4-0 by Barcelona. Before the defeat against Barcelona, no one thought that Barcelona could beat Real Madrid by such a big margin. The club has some injury problems which could also be the reason for their poor performance. But the team that Real Madrid fielded against Barcelona was definitely the best team and Real Madrid should have won against Barcelona with that team.
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Yes, I agree with you. This is just beginning to compare it with solidarity. Many aspects we can see why they lost when face that both club. We can not immediately judge because Anceloti fault or because player does not compact on the field. I think what they problem face now is just mentally from pressure. We have to look at When Real Madrid faced Lille before, Real Madrid was held to a draw when derby Madrid on Atletico which I think this is a problem cause can be affect when they away to Lille. So are when El Classico before, Real Madrid demanded must to win from the media and fans which I think that pressure can't be handled by young player on the field.
He was able to weather the storm of injuries very well last season and he also realized how important it is to rotate the squad. The defeat that was obtained when facing Barcelona is something that might happen but to what extent they can change the way to continue to perform better to catch up with Barcelona's points. Blaming Ancelloti entirely is also not right, especially if you say that Real Madrid players did not work well in the match because there are times when any team will lose even though they have fought to play better.

Ancelotti's task ahead is how to restore morale and he must make some efforts to continue to increase the chances of playing better. Some results in previous matches were indeed less than optimal and perhaps Ancelloti has gotten a picture that needs to be evaluated.
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Mbappe's arrival has badly impacted Real Madrid. It's proven by how bad his performance was against Barcelona. There's no excuse for Mbappe, one of the world's best, to be caught offside so often by a bunch of young players.

It shows how lazy he was, and it's very infuriating that he repeated it 8 times. That's crazy to see how a world-class player could not even be aware of the offside trap.

Even if Real Madrid replaces its coach, it won't change the situation a lot.
Mbappe is quite often caught in the offside trap set by Barcelona. And yes, that happened repeatedly in this match. But several times Mbappe was also able to escape the offside trap which even put Barcelona's goal in danger. It's just that Mbappe is always unable to trick the Barcelona goalkeeper. So the balls he shot hit more of the Barcelona goalkeeper.



Mbappe sometimes escaped the offside trap and put Barcelona's keeper in danger. However, the numbers he got offsides and failed 1v1 against Pena are ridiculously high. Also, being offside is a big problem. It means he is unaware of the offside trap, or he's too lazy to adjust his position to get into onside position, or probably both. That's why he was getting lowest rating compared to the other players.
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What I have noticed is that Real Madrid have the players on individual basis but they still lack that team work needed to achieve consistency. The coming of Mbappe have altered the team playing pattern a little as each of the individuals are playing independently,  probably playing to showcase themselves and prove that they deserve a place in their first eleven. Therefore is is now for the coach to swing into action and bring some kind of team work among them because that is the only way they can achieve consistency without which they will not make much progress this season.
Real Madrid is currently one of the best teams in the world. It is incorrect to think that Real Madrid players are playing based on individual interests rather than as a team. The signing of Mbappe has not changed Real Madrid’s traditional style of play instead I think Mbappe has added to the team. Ancelotti, being a legendary coach, won’t face any challenges or "selection headaches" with Mbappe in the squad. I don’t think Ancelotti is a manager that favors players reputation over performance so as long as Mbappe is performing well, he will remain in the first eleven.
Yes I have just seen their record and their match performance which feels like the best team.Every team player has the same goal to become a good player and develop more. But very few players will be seen who play for their own sake and for the development of the team.  But the goal of every player and team is to win the match and reach the title.We have a problem with their players because they are not playing well.  However, only one defeat and one draw can be seen in their 10 matches.  But every team has one or the other player who is weak but will become good with time.Winning the next few matches will put them in a much better position.  But something takes time because their record is not so weak that it puts them in a bad position. There are better teams out there to weaken Real Madrid.
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Alaves vs Mallorca

This is quite an interesting match and can be betting option, Alaves is playing at home but they have performed poorly for the start of this season with 11 match that have been played, so far Alaves only has 3 win and is ranked 16th, while Mallorca has shown quite significant development by achieving 5 wins and in the last match they were even able to hold Bilbao to draw even though they had received 1 red card in the first half.
On the other hand, Mallorca also has very tough defense and has been proven in all match which shows they have never conceded more than 2 goal, I believe in Mallorca and take them as the favorites who give odds @3.00.
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The title may not have been settled already because there are still many matches to play and the season have not even gone halfway but we can clearly see the teams that will likely be dragging the title already. With six point gap against their closest rival Real Madrid, Barcelona have actually shown that they stand a chance at winning the league this season and it will take serious effort from Real Madrid to stop them. They have to win the return leg and also continue to win their matches without losing at all, that way they will be able to catch Barcelona as soon as they make the mistake of losing to any team.
With Barcelona itself which is indeed in increasing performance, it is not possible for them to be an unbeaten team throughout the season because we know that it is difficult to happen, as well as Real Madrid, who are their current rivals, it seems they are having problems because they have been defeated by Barcelona with a fantastic goal. I don't think Barcelona will be an unbeaten team but it is possible that they can win the title this season even though it is still a long way to go.
With their next match which will take place later on the 3rd against Espanyol, the chances of winning that they have are greater than their opponents, I also think they will easily get through this match. Meanwhile, with Real Madrid they seem to be having problems, one of which is the tactics they play this season. As I found that Carlo Ancelotti found himself in a tactical deadlock, maybe this is what caused their performance to decline. In addition, with their attacking players Mbappe and Vinicius I see the egos of these two players are equally high, this might cause problems in scoring goals.

https://www.managingmadrid.com/2024/11/1/24281708/managing-madrid-podcast-ancelottis-tactical-mistakes
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Mbappe's arrival has badly impacted Real Madrid. It's proven by how bad his performance was against Barcelona. There's no excuse for Mbappe, one of the world's best, to be caught offside so often by a bunch of young players.

It shows how lazy he was, and it's very infuriating that he repeated it 8 times. That's crazy to see how a world-class player could not even be aware of the offside trap.

Even if Real Madrid replaces its coach, it won't change the situation a lot.
Mbappe will adapt to his new role in Real Madrid because he is wise enough for adaptation. Barcelona succeeded in this El Clasico with very high defensive line to set up double-edged offline trap against Mbappe and Real Madrid. Real Madrid lost this El Clasico because two first goals from Lewandowski and I think if Barcelona did not score these two goals, the match can be balanced and Barcelona can be punished by Real Madrid and Mbappe.

Things can be changed in their second El Clasico in second half of La Liga 2024 - 2025 season. About risk of offline trap, if you are old enough, you would know about Filippo Inzaghi, who was described as a player who lived on the offside line. He afford to have many offside situations in a match but he only needs one successful situation for scoring goal. The match between Barcelona and Real Madrid days ago is like this, if Real Madrid score first, Mbappe will destroy Barcelona with his speed.
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Villarreal start look impressive this season because until week 11 Villarreal only lost from Real Madrid and Barcelona but while fight against other teams in Laliga Villarreal always had positive results even yesterday Villarreal has just humiliated FC Poblense with huge scores at Copa Del Rey however the decision when Villarreal decide to sell Alexander Sørloth to Atletico Madrid is dare decision because he is Villarreal key player and their top scorer of last season but apparently this is good transfer because after this player leave Villarreal performance is more stable and currently they can taking over 3rd place from Atletico Madrid and this weekend Villarreal opponent in Laliga is Rayo Vallecano and on the paper Villarreal had good chances to be the winner of this match and extended their unbeated records
Yes, this season Villareal's performance has indeed improved quite significantly. Because it has been proven that until now Villareal has been able to wipe out most of its matches with a win. In fact, if you look at the squad that Villareal currently has, it could be said to be mediocre. However, it turns out that with a squad that looks mediocre, Villareal is able to become quite a great competitor in the top 4 of Laliga. In my opinion, Villareal currently has a very good squad balance and the chemistry between the players is very good. So even though Atletico Madrid's players are mediocre (in quality), if the balance of the squad is very good, the results will definitely be good. Because so far Villareal hasn't conceded too many goals, this means their defense line is quite good. Then if you look at Villareal's ball control in every match, it can be said to be quite good, this also means that Villareal's midfield is quite good at organizing attacks. And if you look at goal productivity, so far Villareal is quite good because in all competitions Villareal has been able to score 26 goals. So that's why I say that Villareal has a very good squad balance.

Then talking about the Villareal VS Rayo match, I think it is clear that this match will definitely be won by Villareal. Because we can see that the rankings of the two teams in Laliga are quite different, Rayo is in 9th place while Villareal is in 3rd place. Apart from that, even if we look at the head to head record of the two teams, the results are quite even, namely the same with 2 wins, 2 losses and 1 draw. Then if you look at the last 5 matches that Villareal has had with Rayo, their record is also the same, namely 3 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss. But still, if we look at Villareal's current performance, we can be sure that Villareal will definitely win when facing Rayo. Therefore, I will also bet on Villareal in this match.
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Although I will say the 6 points isn’t that much mathematically but it is certainly a mountain to climb for them considering the fact that the first leg of the el Classico has been played already, had it been the game hasn’t been played already Madrid could have one more game now to reduce the deficit or point gap and another to break it even if the win all their matches. Right now they need a favour from other clubs to help get points off Barcelona and also need to defeat them on the return leg with a better goal margin than the first leg because of the use of head to head in Laliga when two teams finish on same points. Seriously the odds are not good for Real Madrid because I don’t remember when last either of the two clubs open a 6 points gap this early and end up bottling the league
Seems to early for predicting the La Liga winner in this season although Barcelona have advantage with six points remaining awhile, have many matches left. Real Madrid indeed loss from the first el clasico match not close opportunity for defending their La Liga trophy because last season got defeated from Barcelona but success winning La Liga and UEFA Champion League trophy.

La Liga have played games week 11 and have 27 matches left, I think have all possibilities for Real Madrid returning back to the top standings or other teams will stop Barcelona winning trend behind their top and consistent performance awhile. Not fairly predicting the candidate winner for La Liga this season because have many matches left and all teams will plays many crucial matches.
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Ancelotti understands the situation very well, and in my opinion his managerial ability in managing star players is beyond doubt. The defeats to Lille and Barcelona were indeed very disappointing, but that cannot be used as a reference to say that Real Madrid is currently not solid.
Yes, I agree with you. This is just beginning to compare it with solidarity. Many aspects we can see why they lost when face that both club. We can not immediately judge because Anceloti fault or because player does not compact on the field. I think what they problem face now is just mentally from pressure. We have to look at When Real Madrid faced Lille before, Real Madrid was held to a draw when derby Madrid on Atletico which I think this is a problem cause can be affect when they away to Lille. So are when El Classico before, Real Madrid demanded must to win from the media and fans which I think that pressure can't be handled by young player on the field.
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Although I will say the 6 points isn’t that much mathematically but it is certainly a mountain to climb for them considering the fact that the first leg of the el Classico has been played already, had it been the game hasn’t been played already Madrid could have one more game now to reduce the deficit or point gap and another to break it even if the win all their matches. Right now they need a favour from other clubs to help get points off Barcelona and also need to defeat them on the return leg with a better goal margin than the first leg because of the use of head to head in Laliga when two teams finish on same points. Seriously the odds are not good for Real Madrid because I don’t remember when last either of the two clubs open a 6 points gap this early and end up bottling the league

Yeah indeed for now we have not been able to conclude anything and everything can still change, Barcelona so far played well but that does not mean they can't be defeated because in their records they have lost once this means that other teams can do the same thing through luck. Laliga still has a lot of matches in front and Real Madrid is a lot of time to improve the team's performance, 6 points are not a safe position to secure the title I mean it's the same as winning 2 matches.
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