La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 308.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 31, 2024, 05:05:51 AM

What I have noticed is that Real Madrid have the players on individual basis but they still lack that team work needed to achieve consistency. The coming of Mbappe have altered the team playing pattern a little as each of the individuals are playing independently, probably playing to showcase themselves and prove that they deserve a place in their first eleven. Therefore is is now for the coach to swing into action and bring some kind of team work among them because that is the only way they can achieve consistency without which they will not make much progress this season.

You may have a point but i still don’t totally agree with all of that. Real Madrid find themselves in a situation that all players are top notch and they’re all exhibiting some kind of great quality in the team. They just need to learn to adapt to themselves and also have this spirit of sportsmanship in the field. Real Madrid players are all good, so you’ll think they are after individual greatness as a team instead of playing together as a team. They are verily playing well in my opinion and for every player, they want their team to win regardless of who scores the goal amongst them. The coach knows better what is wrong with the team that we are yet to see the best of them, I’m sure he’ll fix that and make the team as great as they’ve always been.

It is natural for every player to have the ambition to be the main focus in every match.
It is Ancelotti main task to unite the egos of his players, 11 Real Madrid players are under 25 years old, they clearly need more recognition. Ancelotti understands the situation very well, and in my opinion his managerial ability in managing star players is beyond doubt. The defeats to Lille and Barcelona were indeed very disappointing, but that cannot be used as a reference to say that Real Madrid is currently not solid.
There is an injury factor that underlies Los Blancos current unstable performance, in addition to the transition of players within the team and the adaptation of new players which is a little slow. Florentino Perez will not hesitate to kick star players out of Santiago Bernabeu, if their presence becomes a source of chaos, instead of contributing maximally to achieving the club's goals. We have seen on many occasions, Real Madrid is a place where players can be one step closer to winning trophies and individual achievements.

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I also think that Barcelona will win the La Liga title this season if their performance does not slow down until the middle of the season, because when Barcelona can continue to collect full points in every match that will come, of course it will be difficult for other teams to catch up and match the points that Barcelona have this season. The combination of the front line that is already very good will be maintained by Flick until the end of the season so that other teams must be able to do something more if they want to beat and surpass Barcelona this season.

Last season Barcelona failed to become champions and last season Real Madrid became champions and the point difference between Real Madrid and Barcelona last season was 10 points and now Real Madrid has a point difference with Barcelona of 6 points and of course this will definitely be quite difficult for Real Madrid as Barcelona's competitors. and it is true that if, for example, Barcelona can consistently win and maintain its performance, of course there will be great potential for Barcelona to become champions, although there is no 100% guarantee that Barcelona will become champions, but of course now it is normal for many people to speculate that Barcelona will have great potential to become champions in this season.

Many will speculate no doubt, Barcelona in in their best performance for now, although it’s still the early season, if Barcelona will maintain this performance up to the end of the season which we all know it might be somehow hard for them, then I think nothing will stop them from getting the trophy this season. There is one thing that I think affects Barcelona, which at the mid season they always find it hard to win games, which i can say if that didn’t happen this season then Real Madrid will have to take the faith and wait for next season, because nothing is not capable of happening as long as it just a game.

So far in La Liga, I think Barcelona only lose a single game, which is the game they lose against Osasuna last month, which is still a nice record for them, they win a total of 10 games out of the 11 games that they played so far without any draw and a single lost.

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Quote from: Solokan on October 31, 2024, 05:36:13 AM

Last season Barcelona failed to become champions and last season Real Madrid became champions and the point difference between Real Madrid and Barcelona last season was 10 points and now Real Madrid has a point difference with Barcelona of 6 points and of course this will definitely be quite difficult for Real Madrid as Barcelona's competitors. and it is true that if, for example, Barcelona can consistently win and maintain its performance, of course there will be great potential for Barcelona to become champions, although there is no 100% guarantee that Barcelona will become champions, but of course now it is normal for many people to speculate that Barcelona will have great potential to become champions in this season.

Honestly this season has been come a wonderful season for Barcelona which was very surprise for everyone, due to the how their performances end last season and this season they make everything possible to lead first table in La Liga. But with that I don’t think they can able to maintain their consistency and dominate the champion in La Liga this season upon all their high great potential.

The reason why Real Madrid is facing a lot of challenges this season is because some of their players that are in injury, that’s why they always find some of their matches difficult to win. but with their currently performance I have confidence for them that since Barcelona is only ahead of them with 6 points Real Madrid will put much effort to over take them from top of the standings.

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Real Madrid is currently one of the best teams in the world. It is incorrect to think that Real Madrid players are playing based on individual interests rather than as a team. The signing of Mbappe has not changed Real Madrid’s traditional style of play instead I think Mbappe has added to the team. Ancelotti, being a legendary coach, won’t face any challenges or "selection headaches" with Mbappe in the squad. I don’t think Ancelotti is a manager that favors players reputation over performance so as long as Mbappe is performing well, he will remain in the first eleven.

Actually it feels to me like the expectations on the Madrid team could be a factor that affected their performance in a way because they became under some level of pressure to achieve certain things they know probably on a normal day they will need time to achieve, some even expected by now mbappe would be leading as a top scorer across Europe and I began to wonder if Madrid was going to be invincible in their games because it's only in such situations that such high expectations are met within the shortest period of time. The position of Madrid didn't change as one of the best teams neither did mbappe affected their traditional style of play just that they appear not to be meeting the expectations already.

Real Madrid has the strongest squad in La Liga. Last season we saw very good performances from Madrid players. Real Madrid has tried to strengthen the squad this season. Real Madrid management has tried to strengthen the attack by adding Mbappe to the squad.

However, Real Madrid stumbled at the beginning of the season. Several players in the squad suffered injuries, so Real Madrid's overall performance was somewhat erratic. Madrid's overall performance has not stabilized yet. Lost against Lille in Champions League match. In the La Liga match, they lost by a huge margin of 4-0 against Barcelona. The big challenge for Ancelotti now is to stabilize Madrid's overall performance. But it is not impossible for an experienced coach like Ancelotti.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 31, 2024, 05:05:51 AM

What I have noticed is that Real Madrid have the players on individual basis but they still lack that team work needed to achieve consistency. The coming of Mbappe have altered the team playing pattern a little as each of the individuals are playing independently, probably playing to showcase themselves and prove that they deserve a place in their first eleven. Therefore is is now for the coach to swing into action and bring some kind of team work among them because that is the only way they can achieve consistency without which they will not make much progress this season.

You may have a point but i still don’t totally agree with all of that. Real Madrid find themselves in a situation that all players are top notch and they’re all exhibiting some kind of great quality in the team. They just need to learn to adapt to themselves and also have this spirit of sportsmanship in the field. Real Madrid players are all good, so you’ll think they are after individual greatness as a team instead of playing together as a team. They are verily playing well in my opinion and for every player, they want their team to win regardless of who scores the goal amongst them. The coach knows better what is wrong with the team that we are yet to see the best of them, I’m sure he’ll fix that and make the team as great as they’ve always been.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 31, 2024, 03:19:18 PM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 31, 2024, 01:47:16 PM

Actually it feels to me like the expectations on the Madrid team could be a factor that affected their performance in a way because they became under some level of pressure to achieve certain things they know probably on a normal day they will need time to achieve, some even expected by now mbappe would be leading as a top scorer across Europe and I began to wonder if Madrid was going to be invincible in their games because it's only in such situations that such high expectations are met within the shortest period of time. The position of Madrid didn't change as one of the best teams neither did mbappe affected their traditional style of play just that they appear not to be meeting the expectations already.

There is nothing wrong with expectations, Real Madrid is a strong team that has dominated La Liga and also the Champions League. It's natural that expectations for this team are high, but what's strange is that many people are unwilling to accept the fact that all teams can fail.

Real Madrid can't always win the title even if they have a super squad like now. Other teams that have good player cooperation always have a chance of beating them in a match, but I don't think Real Madrid will drop so many points this season. In fact, Real Madrid has only suffered 1 defeat in La Liga and 1 defeat in the Champions League, so they can still improve in the next few matches.

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Quote from: Solokan on October 31, 2024, 05:36:13 AM

Last season Barcelona failed to become champions and last season Real Madrid became champions and the point difference between Real Madrid and Barcelona last season was 10 points and now Real Madrid has a point difference with Barcelona of 6 points and of course this will definitely be quite difficult for Real Madrid as Barcelona's competitors. and it is true that if, for example, Barcelona can consistently win and maintain its performance, of course there will be great potential for Barcelona to become champions, although there is no 100% guarantee that Barcelona will become champions, but of course now it is normal for many people to speculate that Barcelona will have great potential to become champions in this season.

This is how La Liga is basically, 3 years ago Real Madrid won, 2 years ago Barcelona won, last year Real Madrid won, this year it looks like Barcelona will win. Basically it is not a big deal if either of these wins and the other is at second place. I would not consider second place a failure if they won the title last year, and Real Madrid did win it last year, along with UCL as well, so this year they could very well end up with no titles, because that means they will have to get them next season.

This how you improve, otherwise there is no room for growth, and keep winning everything every season would be boring. Barcelona got into some debt problems and that caused a lot of people to doubt them, but looking at it now, they are doing fine.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 31, 2024, 01:47:16 PM

Real Madrid is currently one of the best teams in the world. It is incorrect to think that Real Madrid players are playing based on individual interests rather than as a team. The signing of Mbappe has not changed Real Madrid’s traditional style of play instead I think Mbappe has added to the team. Ancelotti, being a legendary coach, won’t face any challenges or "selection headaches" with Mbappe in the squad. I don’t think Ancelotti is a manager that favors players reputation over performance so as long as Mbappe is performing well, he will remain in the first eleven.

Actually it feels to me like the expectations on the Madrid team could be a factor that affected their performance in a way because they became under some level of pressure to achieve certain things they know probably on a normal day they will need time to achieve, some even expected by now mbappe would be leading as a top scorer across Europe and I began to wonder if Madrid was going to be invincible in their games because it's only in such situations that such high expectations are met within the shortest period of time. The position of Madrid didn't change as one of the best teams neither did mbappe affected their traditional style of play just that they appear not to be meeting the expectations already.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 31, 2024, 05:05:51 AM

What I have noticed is that Real Madrid have the players on individual basis but they still lack that team work needed to achieve consistency. The coming of Mbappe have altered the team playing pattern a little as each of the individuals are playing independently, probably playing to showcase themselves and prove that they deserve a place in their first eleven. Therefore is is now for the coach to swing into action and bring some kind of team work among them because that is the only way they can achieve consistency without which they will not make much progress this season.

since Benzema left the team, it's been very clear that Vinicius Jr. was good at his dribbling and assists, but he's not doing his job very well when it comes to scoring a lot of goals. What he's been getting a lot of attention for is because of the dribbling he does. Some people are even getting confused, thinking that this was enough for him to be the best player in the world, but it's not. Real Madrid has been playing badly, and it's true that the important thing is to win games and win titles, and they've been doing that. But they're playing badly.

Mbappe has not been able to be efficient, the guy has wasted many good opportunities, it seems that when Ardar Guler is playing he focuses more on passing the good ball to Mbappe, because Vinicius and Jude Bellingham are more focused on playing individually. They are being selfish.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 31, 2024, 02:03:25 PM

I think that's clear to me and everyone about the problems in Real Madrid. Real Madrid got good palyers and they spent too much money on their players but still, they are not getting good enough results and they even lost the game against Barcelona while it was an important match for them.
The main problem for Real Madrid is about the change they made. They recently lost Kroos and they couldn't fill his place yet also this team hired many younger players and they are having a revolution in Real Madrid and this will take some time for these players to have better teamwork.

Yeah. The problem with Real Mdrid as it isn’t about the players in themselves, they’ve got very decent and good players but haven’t got any sense of hierarchy between them and that could at times create some problems as you would find players vying for spots, wanting to be the top man of which, Vini Jnr is projected to be the man of the moment for Real Madrid but, would Mbappe and Bellingham accept that? Sure not. That in itself could lead to inter competition between them players and that wouldn’t do any good for the team.

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Reaching title is far yet, we can't really consider that is done already and talk about Barcelona like they are the winners. Sure they had a great game against Real Madrid, but lets remember this is the same team that lost against Monaco as well. So, we can't really consider how they are doing right now as success, that is not the point and we have so many more games to play. When there are 20+ more games to play, as in 60+ more points to be earned, we can't say anything yet. We are getting into November, and this is why it's a risky move to predict the winner yet.

We need to be careful and we can do fine when the league ends and we see them as winners, until then it's always a risk and we can't really call anyone the winner yet. Who knows, maybe Barcelona will end up losing a bunch of points in a row? Like get 2 draws and a loss, sometimes teams have bad streaks so it's not really a complicated thing and we need to consider this as a possibility as well.

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Quote from: bitLeap on October 31, 2024, 07:59:42 AM

Or Mbappe arrival has changed the existing ideal formation and if you look at Bellingham presence now he is closed plus Ancelotti is unable to overcome Mbappe position in the front line so that the conclusion arises what if Madrid needs a new coach like the rumors about Xabi Alonso. Maybe he has a slightly effective game system by utilizing the individual skills of Madrid players. Maybe this sounds excessive, but in La Liga Ancelotti tactics will be very easy to conquer by Hansi Flick.

Something definitely needs to be fixed, not too much given that I saw Real Madrid play and in Europe and against Atalanta for example they did well.
Let's remember that Atalanta plays in the Champions League and is currently second in Serie A so it's not exactly a weak team.
In my opinion, every now and then something gets stuck.
We need to understand what is blocking in my hopinion

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Quote from: coinerer on October 31, 2024, 01:55:20 PM

Real Madrid is a very good team, this is undoubtedly true. And even if they make a few mistakes early in this series, they will correct it very quickly and certainly after being able to play well. They lost a chance to move to the top position in recent matches. Where they lost the match against Barcelona. However, it is possible for them to recover the gap of only 6 points very quickly. Because there are many more matches to be played in the coming days. I think they will then be able to recover this point gap and move past Barcelona to the first position in the points table.

Real Madrid is an extremely coordinated team and they always try starting from the management level to keep an experienced manager and strong set of players who are always ready to deliver the club at all the challenges they encounter. Their spirit of sportsmanship is one quality you may not like to temper with when it comes to the club's performance. Ancelotti is also a highly respected coach in the world of football right now. He was able to secure Mbappé to the team and I'm rest assured this player will soon get his wonders unbundled once he's able to get a more balanced synergy with the new team.

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You are not far from the truth because since Kylian Mbappe joined Real Madrid, it now looks like the attacking players are in competition among themselves in other to still remain relevant in the first eleven because they were basically doing so well before Mbappe joined them, so they saw the appearance of Mbappe as a threat to them knowing fully well that Mbappe is a great player so they couldn't stand seeing Mbappe performing more better than them so i agree with you that the teamwork in the team is not enough. What the team needs is truly teamwork because they are all great players but if the continue with the mentality of not allowing the other to perform better than the rest of them, they will face some problems in the future because they will start playing a very selfish football which will slow down the team's performance so it's time for Carlo Ancelotti to get busy and bring out the best in this players.

Mbappe's arrival should make Real Madrid more afraid of its opponents because after all this team has a great striker. Vinicius, Bellingham and Mbappe are the three players Ancelotti can really rely on, but the change in game strategy has changed things.

Last season Ancelotti tended to play Bellingham as an attacking midfielder, but this season Bellingham tends to play as a wing midfielder. Bellingham is good at playing as an attacking midfielder, but as a result he was shifted to the wing, his role was greatly reduced. Evidently, this season Bellingham has not scored a single goal in 10 appearances in La Liga and the Champions League, but he has only contributed 2 assists in these two competitions.

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Looking at Barcelona's performance this season, it seems like they will reach the top because their game in every match is getting better, unlike Real Madrid who are less stable in the match, if Real Madrid want to take advantage when Barcelona loses then it will be useless if they also do not improve overall in the match and the goals scored in each match can also make it difficult for Real Madrid to hunt, but it is true that this season is still ripe and still long but if you look back at their statistics Barcelona will be superior to Real Madrid this season.

That has been clearly seen this season even though Real Madrid still has a lot of time to fix important things in order not to experience poor performance throughout the season. Even though Real Madrid players are players who already have enough experience, they still have difficulty becoming more dominant this season in La Liga. So that has proven that there are some mistakes that must be traced by the coach in order to be able to overhaul it more quickly before they enter the middle of this season.

What I have noticed is that Real Madrid have the players on individual basis but they still lack that team work needed to achieve consistency. The coming of Mbappe have altered the team playing pattern a little as each of the individuals are playing independently, probably playing to showcase themselves and prove that they deserve a place in their first eleven. Therefore is is now for the coach to swing into action and bring some kind of team work among them because that is the only way they can achieve consistency without which they will not make much progress this season.

I think that's clear to me and everyone about the problems in Real Madrid. Real Madrid got good palyers and they spent too much money on their players but still, they are not getting good enough results and they even lost the game against Barcelona while it was an important match for them.
The main problem for Real Madrid is about the change they made. They recently lost Kroos and they couldn't fill his place yet also this team hired many younger players and they are having a revolution in Real Madrid and this will take some time for these players to have better teamwork.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 31, 2024, 05:05:51 AM

What I have noticed is that Real Madrid have the players on individual basis but they still lack that team work needed to achieve consistency. The coming of Mbappe have altered the team playing pattern a little as each of the individuals are playing independently, probably playing to showcase themselves and prove that they deserve a place in their first eleven. Therefore is is now for the coach to swing into action and bring some kind of team work among them because that is the only way they can achieve consistency without which they will not make much progress this season.

You are not far from the truth because since Kylian Mbappe joined Real Madrid, it now looks like the attacking players are in competition among themselves in other to still remain relevant in the first eleven because they were basically doing so well before Mbappe joined them, so they saw the appearance of Mbappe as a threat to them knowing fully well that Mbappe is a great player so they couldn't stand seeing Mbappe performing more better than them so i agree with you that the teamwork in the team is not enough. What the team needs is truly teamwork because they are all great players but if the continue with the mentality of not allowing the other to perform better than the rest of them, they will face some problems in the future because they will start playing a very selfish football which will slow down the team's performance so it's time for Carlo Ancelotti to get busy and bring out the best in this players.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 31, 2024, 01:47:16 PM

Quote from: Odohu on October 31, 2024, 05:05:51 AM

What I have noticed is that Real Madrid have the players on individual basis but they still lack that team work needed to achieve consistency. The coming of Mbappe have altered the team playing pattern a little as each of the individuals are playing independently, probably playing to showcase themselves and prove that they deserve a place in their first eleven. Therefore is is now for the coach to swing into action and bring some kind of team work among them because that is the only way they can achieve consistency without which they will not make much progress this season.

Real Madrid is currently one of the best teams in the world. It is incorrect to think that Real Madrid players are playing based on individual interests rather than as a team. The signing of Mbappe has not changed Real Madrid’s traditional style of play instead I think Mbappe has added to the team. Ancelotti, being a legendary coach, won’t face any challenges or "selection headaches" with Mbappe in the squad. I don’t think Ancelotti is a manager that favors players reputation over performance so as long as Mbappe is performing well, he will remain in the first eleven.

Real Madrid is a very good team, this is undoubtedly true. And even if they make a few mistakes early in this series, they will correct it very quickly and certainly after being able to play well. They lost a chance to move to the top position in recent matches. Where they lost the match against Barcelona. However, it is possible for them to recover the gap of only 6 points very quickly. Because there are many more matches to be played in the coming days. I think they will then be able to recover this point gap and move past Barcelona to the first position in the points table.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 31, 2024, 05:05:51 AM

What I have noticed is that Real Madrid have the players on individual basis but they still lack that team work needed to achieve consistency. The coming of Mbappe have altered the team playing pattern a little as each of the individuals are playing independently, probably playing to showcase themselves and prove that they deserve a place in their first eleven. Therefore is is now for the coach to swing into action and bring some kind of team work among them because that is the only way they can achieve consistency without which they will not make much progress this season.

Real Madrid is currently one of the best teams in the world. It is incorrect to think that Real Madrid players are playing based on individual interests rather than as a team. The signing of Mbappe has not changed Real Madrid’s traditional style of play instead I think Mbappe has added to the team. Ancelotti, being a legendary coach, won’t face any challenges or "selection headaches" with Mbappe in the squad. I don’t think Ancelotti is a manager that favors players reputation over performance so as long as Mbappe is performing well, he will remain in the first eleven.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on October 31, 2024, 12:06:26 PM

Mbappe's arrival has badly impacted Real Madrid. It's proven by how bad his performance was against Barcelona. There's no excuse for Mbappe, one of the world's best, to be caught offside so often by a bunch of young players.

It shows how lazy he was, and it's very infuriating that he repeated it 8 times. That's crazy to see how a world-class player could not even be aware of the offside trap.

Even if Real Madrid replaces its coach, it won't change the situation a lot.

The Hensi Flick high line tactics favored Barcelona, it shows that he knows what he is doing and he has coached the players on how to maintain their defensive line properly and they did because they caught an overhyped world class winger offside more than seven times in a single match.

Mbappe is a good player, he has achieved a lot of greatness in PSG and his move to Madrid will be a fruitful one with time. It has been a hard time for him to adapt to Madrid’s style of play, especially in big matches, but this can be as a result of the striking role they gave him. But his flop against Barcelona is questionable because many people come to watch him as it was his first official El Classico game.

Nevertheless, let’s give him more time to have more confidence, he can be better in Real Madrid and can win more individual awards.

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Quote from: irhact on October 30, 2024, 06:35:57 PM

6 points isn't too much as the season just started and there are tough games that's going to come as the league continues. You're right for saying Real Madrid is under alot of pressure. Mbappe coming to the club also increase the pressure on Real Madrid to win both the champions league and La liga title. Real Madrid still has a chance to win but for that to happen, they should be consistent then hope for Barcelona to have some few bad games and they'll drop form. The fact that it's always Real Madrid or Barcelona winning the league title is why many individuals prefer the premier league to la Liga as the competition there is tougher and makes the games interesting to watch.

Yeah 6 points are not something difficult to pursue moreover the league still leaves 27 matches but what is our concern is Barcelona's performance because Real Madrid's efforts will be in vain if Barcelona continues its best performance. 10 wins of 11 matches are good records so somehow Real Madrid hopes Barcelona will get bad results in the next few games. As I said before, to see as a whole then we have to wait until the middle of the season I mean we will see how every team maintains consistency

What if we have an assumption like this,

Madrid focuses on UCL giving Barcelona a chance to win the La Liga title and Madrid holds the UCL title.
Barcelona accepts the offer to perform optimally in La Liga and continue to get points and wins to provide a large point difference and give Madrid a chance to become runner up.

This assumption makes sense to me because these big teams have their own targets and we definitely know how Madrid goal is to always target UCL and Barcelona will continue to try in UCL but if they fail Barcelona still has the trophy in La Liga.

@irhact So, does Man City dominance over the past 4 seasons make it a tight and interesting competition?
Every league has its own obstacles and both La Liga and the EPL remain interesting leagues for me.

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