was patiently waiting for a tangeable reason you intend giving as to why Barca are at a better position of winning over real Madrid. Dortmund in the first place is not an average team. A team that got to the finals of last champions league deserves a little bit of respect and wining against them is not what you do and feel it's a simple thing. Remember that at the start of the game, they came really hard and scored 2 goals against madird in the first half, that's something Bayern Munich couldn't do against Barca and you don't want to tell me that they scored those two goals due to the weakness of the real Madrid defence.
It was the tangible reason.
You said Dortmund can scored 2 goals in Madrid, while Bayern Munich couldn't do against Barcelona because they only scored one goal, right? it means Madrid had a weak defense and Barcelona had better defense.
So it will be like this: Dortmund < Real Madrid < Bayern Munich < Barcelona.
The banter is not just about which team is better. a Madrid fan will always support Madrid win over Barca and that's the same thing that Barca fans are doing. You can't take away the place of emotions out of football banters, you only make calculated analysis when you're about making a stake.
I got it, there are more Madridistas than Culers, but I'm not Culers, I judge objectively.