La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3355.

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Quote from: tygeade on August 09, 2022, 02:42:34 PM

I do not think that they are really looking for a championship at all. I feel like there is a good chance they just want to be at the UCL levels (top 4) and that is good enough for them. Maybe that doesn't sound realistic to you, but I do believe that it would be the case for them this year.

When Real Madrid is the latest UCL winner and when Barcelona spent the most money in Europe, you can't really build a team that will rival those teams, how could you. Plus they do not even have the call for it, like Lewandowski wanted to be in Barcelona, nobody really wants to be in ATM, they just end up there if they can't play in bigger clubs hence why it's harder.

Rather than Atletico madrid, I think the players are more interested in joining Real Madrid or Barcelona because of their history and good title chances. Lewandowski is an example, Kounde is too, and they believe only that can help them get closer to achievement.

Now the Barcelona situation is heating up because there has been no resolution to the problem to register its players in Laliga. Salary and contract issues are being discussed, there is negative news about it but I think they will sort it out soon.

It looks sarcastic but it's true, the fact that being at Atletico and hoping for the title I don't think it's the right choice even if Atletico is a pretty good club it's just wishful thinking. Madrid and Barcelona are the right clubs but the problem is that when you want to be there, it's clear that skills at an average level will not be able to qualify.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on August 09, 2022, 12:35:35 PM

-Gerard Pique has agreed to cancel his current contract with La Liga giants Barcelona and sign a new one with a reduced wage
-Barcelona had asked Pique, as well as De Jong, Ter Stegen and Lenglet to void their current deals and revert to the old ones signed in 2020
-Barcelona lawyers had found signs of criminality in the new contract extensions they signed in 2020 under former president Josep Bartomeu
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Interesting news. It turns out that if I sign a contract, then in a couple of years I can refuse to fulfill it because I suspect myself of violations? But at the same time, if the counterparty makes concessions to me, then I will pretend that there was no violation and will not go to the police. Barcelona behave very strangely towards their own players.

Too much bullshit about the Barcelona situation, I am really fed up with how the media keeps mixing facts with their opinions which are then consumed raw by the readers. I think the current situation of Barcelona is much better since Lewandowski was introduced to the public a few days ago, but the media keeps looking for news and keeps on paddling it so the polemic never seems to develop.

You know? Before Laliga officially starts, there is always an opportunity for Barcelona to resolve issues with their players. They will make every effort to register all those players, so just wait and close your ears a bit from some of the media.

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Quote from: tygeade on August 09, 2022, 02:42:34 PM

I do not think that they are really looking for a championship at all. I feel like there is a good chance they just want to be at the UCL levels (top 4) and that is good enough for them. Maybe that doesn't sound realistic to you, but I do believe that it would be the case for them this year.

When Real Madrid is the latest UCL winner and when Barcelona spent the most money in Europe, you can't really build a team that will rival those teams, how could you. Plus they do not even have the call for it, like Lewandowski wanted to be in Barcelona, nobody really wants to be in ATM, they just end up there if they can't play in bigger clubs hence why it's harder.

Rather than Atletico madrid, I think the players are more interested in joining Real Madrid or Barcelona because of their history and good title chances. Lewandowski is an example, Kounde is too, and they believe only that can help them get closer to achievement.

Now the Barcelona situation is heating up because there has been no resolution to the problem to register its players in Laliga. Salary and contract issues are being discussed, there is negative news about it but I think they will sort it out soon.

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Quote from: Davian144 on August 08, 2022, 11:07:18 PM

Atletico Madrid can still enliven the competition for the La Liga title even though Atletico Madrid did not add really quality players and Simeone did not change tactics.
But I still believe that Simeone will provide the best tactics for Atletico Madrid next season in order to compete with the two big teams (Barcelona and Real Madrid) for the title in La Liga.

Atlético Madrid seem to be lagging behind in this race. If they want to be champions, they have to strengthen the squad with very good transfers. The strong squad of Barcelona and Real Madrid can be defeated not only tactically, but also the strong players you will have. Simeone may be a good manager, but football is played by 11 players on the field.

I do not think that they are really looking for a championship at all. I feel like there is a good chance they just want to be at the UCL levels (top 4) and that is good enough for them. Maybe that doesn't sound realistic to you, but I do believe that it would be the case for them this year.

When Real Madrid is the latest UCL winner and when Barcelona spent the most money in Europe, you can't really build a team that will rival those teams, how could you. Plus they do not even have the call for it, like Lewandowski wanted to be in Barcelona, nobody really wants to be in ATM, they just end up there if they can't play in bigger clubs hence why it's harder.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on August 09, 2022, 12:35:35 PM

-Gerard Pique has agreed to cancel his current contract with La Liga giants Barcelona and sign a new one with a reduced wage
-Barcelona had asked Pique, as well as De Jong, Ter Stegen and Lenglet to void their current deals and revert to the old ones signed in 2020
-Barcelona lawyers had found signs of criminality in the new contract extensions they signed in 2020 under former president Josep Bartomeu
source

Interesting news. It turns out that if I sign a contract, then in a couple of years I can refuse to fulfill it because I suspect myself of violations? But at the same time, if the counterparty makes concessions to me, then I will pretend that there was no violation and will not go to the police. Barcelona behave very strangely towards their own players.

It is a way to reduce wages and keep players without "breaching" the rules..
I could understand Pique doing this because simply he is losing progressively his spot and with all polemic around his personal life, he isn't in his best days.
De Jong, if I can formulate that correctly, is asked to whether continue playing with Barcelona and to accept removing what Barca owes him, or risk to be neglected, and since he wants to continue there...
For the others, I won't doubt seeing them doing the same. Barcelona has history of doing the same thing with its players.

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Quote from: AakZaki on August 09, 2022, 02:11:04 PM

There is a lot of news in the local media that De jong is leaving but there are two clubs that Chelsea and Man United are gossiping about. Perhaps Barca did tell De Jong to Leave because of his financial and salary problems. It is still a question mark, if Chelsea got de Jong of course they will be happy. They're going to have a good extra linebacker. While Man United seem to have multiplied its choice to Adrien Rabiot, or Bennacer. But if De Jong's price drops, maybe Man United will be interested in buying him again. Because it looks like Man United objected to the claustrophobic that Barcelona gave in the first and second offers.

If you believe what the journalists write, then de Jong does not want to move to Manchester United, but he does not mind considering the option of moving to Chelsea. The situation with Barcelona may be such that the player simply does not want to accept a pay cut, which would be logical, why would he? And he doesn't mind moving to Chelsea where the finances are all right. Especially since Tuchel is interested in de Jong.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on August 09, 2022, 12:35:35 PM

-Gerard Pique has agreed to cancel his current contract with La Liga giants Barcelona and sign a new one with a reduced wage
-Barcelona had asked Pique, as well as De Jong, Ter Stegen and Lenglet to void their current deals and revert to the old ones signed in 2020
-Barcelona lawyers had found signs of criminality in the new contract extensions they signed in 2020 under former president Josep Bartomeu
source

Interesting news. It turns out that if I sign a contract, then in a couple of years I can refuse to fulfill it because I suspect myself of violations? But at the same time, if the counterparty makes concessions to me, then I will pretend that there was no violation and will not go to the police. Barcelona behave very strangely towards their own players.

All of this is being done by Barcelona just to reduce the cost. And everything, every news that we are hearing about players being found signs of criminality in the contract is just short in my opinion. In my personal opinion, I think they just don’t want to show people how to say are especially after making transfers worth 150 million. But people are not stupid. Do you know what is going on? As I said I believe this is a trick being used by Barcelona so that they can reduce the expense and overall salary which actually need it for them right now.

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Quote from: mamesso on August 09, 2022, 12:56:06 PM

I think you are wrong if you say other teams don't have good strikers or strikers who are hungry for goals. Celta Vigo has Iago Aspas who is very diligent in breaking into the opponent's goal, Raul de Tomas who plays for Espanyol is also very dangerous, these two players are below Benzema in the list of top scorers in La Liga last season. Enes Unal (Getafe) and Juanmi (Real Betis) each scored 16 goals last season, while Deportivo Alaves (Joselu) froze 14 goals.
The reason Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid dominate La Liga is not because other teams don't have good strikers, but because the quality of players that these three clubs have is above average when compared to other teams.

Good, you have explained it quite clearly. So it's true that the quality of the team between Real Madrid and Barcelona compared to other teams will definitely be very different. You can also look at the total market value between these teams as a good comparison to assess the strength of the club, financially as well as quality.

Here are just a few teams that have a total market value of over €100M, and the rest below. Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/laliga/startseite/wettbewerb/ES1

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Quote from: monineklutak on August 09, 2022, 03:29:25 AM

haha nice picture, Barcelona was really unexpected, even though they were talked about that the club's situation was not good in terms of finances,
but one of the clubs with the most signings in the transfer market was Barcelona, yes it was very surprising, especially with the rumors of Silva going to Barcelona,
yes it will get hotter, and will be decisive for De jong.

There is a lot of news in the local media that De jong is leaving but there are two clubs that Chelsea and Man United are gossiping about. Perhaps Barca did tell De Jong to Leave because of his financial and salary problems. It is still a question mark, if Chelsea got de Jong of course they will be happy. They're going to have a good extra linebacker. While Man United seem to have multiplied its choice to Adrien Rabiot, or Bennacer. But if De Jong's price drops, maybe Man United will be interested in buying him again. Because it looks like Man United objected to the claustrophobic that Barcelona gave in the first and second offers.

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Quote from: naira on August 09, 2022, 10:02:58 AM

Atletico Madrid has the potential to maintain its position as last season to target third position. Because 1 and 2 are still ideal positions for Real Madrid and Barcelona. If you look at Atletico Madrid's ambitions last season, they didn't just stumble, but they were too confident and didn't realize that players who couldn't control their emotions only had a bad impact on the team's performance.

Atletico Madrid has not made many changes this season, it looks like Simeone is ready to be in third place. Of the 20 teams participating in the La Liga competition, only four teams have always dominated the top four, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid and Sevilla. I think it is not difficult for Atletico to maintain its position in the top four, because other clubs cannot last long in the UCL Zone. This season Atletico Madrid will also get a place in the top four, the hard style of play that is attached to Atletico will still be shown this season, of course it will be a capital for Atletico to get full points in the matches they play.

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Pep Guardiola had a very big role in Robert Lewandowski's move to Barcelona. Robert Lewandowski has revealed that playing under Pep Guardiola at Bayern Munich was the main reason behind his move to Barcelona this summer. Having missed a move to the Catalan club for months, Lewandowski finally got his wish recently, having signed a contract until 2025.

Barcelona have made good preparations ahead of their La Liga opener with Barcelona vs Rayo Vallecano on Saturday.

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Quote from: topman21 on August 09, 2022, 09:40:04 AM

Spain's La Liga is mainly dominated by a few clubs, notably Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. Other teams don't have good strikers and enough players due to the enough budget. A few days ago Barcelona already balanced team with buyern Munich polish styker Robert lewandoski. So undoubtedly Real Madrid and Barcelona two top ranked favourite team would play the final match.

I think you are wrong if you say other teams don't have good strikers or strikers who are hungry for goals. Celta Vigo has Iago Aspas who is very diligent in breaking into the opponent's goal, Raul de Tomas who plays for Espanyol is also very dangerous, these two players are below Benzema in the list of top scorers in La Liga last season. Enes Unal (Getafe) and Juanmi (Real Betis) each scored 16 goals last season, while Deportivo Alaves (Joselu) froze 14 goals.
The reason Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid dominate La Liga is not because other teams don't have good strikers, but because the quality of players that these three clubs have is above average when compared to other teams.

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-Gerard Pique has agreed to cancel his current contract with La Liga giants Barcelona and sign a new one with a reduced wage
-Barcelona had asked Pique, as well as De Jong, Ter Stegen and Lenglet to void their current deals and revert to the old ones signed in 2020
-Barcelona lawyers had found signs of criminality in the new contract extensions they signed in 2020 under former president Josep Bartomeu
source

Interesting news. It turns out that if I sign a contract, then in a couple of years I can refuse to fulfill it because I suspect myself of violations? But at the same time, if the counterparty makes concessions to me, then I will pretend that there was no violation and will not go to the police. Barcelona behave very strangely towards their own players.

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Quote from: naira on August 09, 2022, 10:02:58 AM

Atletico Madrid has the potential to maintain its position as last season to target third position. Because 1 and 2 are still ideal positions for Real Madrid and Barcelona. If you look at Atletico Madrid's ambitions last season, they didn't just stumble, but they were too confident and didn't realize that players who couldn't control their emotions only had a bad impact on the team's performance.

Last season they had some problems between the player and his coach in the middle of the season, in addition to that the injuries of several of their strikers last season hampered them in goal productivity, especially the Suarez injury whose impact was clearly felt by them.
Now they have got Morata back and this will be good enough for their attack.
In a friendly match against Juventus, Morata managed to look good and destroyed his former club last season with 3 goals. Although this does not guarantee anything but I think this is a good capital for Morata and to spend the season with Atletico.

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I agree about multibets. Probably at the start of the season it is better to make single bets. And most likely on underdogs because the favorites are overpriced and the profit does not compensate for the risk. At the beginning of the season, the real strength of the teams is unknown, so the results may be random. In this case, choosing an underdog with large odds may turn out to be profitable.

Is it trying their luck like the Leicester fans? It's actually quite interesting to choose the underdog team in betting. But, for La Liga, i think its a bit worrying. Because the possibility of winning is in the 3 main clubs, Madrid, Atletico and Barcelona ^{(if their performances remain consistent)}. Since the 2019/2020 season until the last season, the Top 4 was filled by the three and added by Sevilla. Maybe, if we don't want to bet on Madrid, and want to get a better win if our guess bet is going right, I will choose Sevilla than Espanyol or other underdogs team.

Winning in betting is not easy (if at all real) and it is always only about the distance. It cannot be said that "we need to bet on the underdog in this match and we will make a profit." For example, we bet on an underdog with 9 odds, and we have assessed the situation more correct than the bookmaker, that is, in fact, the underdog will win 8 out of 9 such games and we will be in the black in the long run. But as you understand, this is a long distance, and it is difficult to find so many similar games in one round. Therefore, everyone chooses how to bet on their own.

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Actually when they can compete and can give more performance there is something that can be expected from them to be able to destroy the dominance of Barcelona and Madrid and actually a few seasons ago they were able to change that and make the competition into the top 3, but after they won they slowly left and let alone a chance to destroy the 2 clubs above it because indeed they even stumbled in this season which made this like them after the champions returned to their factory settings and like other clubs in La Liga.

Spain's La Liga is mainly dominated by a few clubs, notably Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. Other teams don't have good strikers and enough players due to the enough budget. A few days ago Barcelona already balanced team with buyern Munich polish styker Robert lewandoski. So undoubtedly Real Madrid and Barcelona two top ranked favourite team would play the final match.

In this case what you say is true, but before saying Barcelona are in strong competition with Madrid first they must solve their current problems because there are indeed many problems that they have to solve quickly such as registering their 5 new players, solving problems with De Jong, as well as finalizing Raphinha's finances with Leeds. When it is finished, they can be considered as strong competitors for the title.
As for Atletico, it will still be fifty-fifty in my opinion, depending on Griezman and Morata whether they can give a good performance there because otherwise they will probably be the same as last season.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 09, 2022, 10:14:19 AM

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Quote from: zuzie on August 09, 2022, 09:04:13 AM

So far, I agree with you that the La Liga title race will most likely only be between Barcelona and Real Madrid. But the summer transfer window is still under way before it closes on September 1, which means Atletico Madrid still have time to bring in some of the players they are looking to strengthen their squad and participate in the La Liga title race.

Do not think that because Barcelona had 1-2 good games at the end of the season and preseason they will win the league. Truth be told, Barcelona sort of have a fighting chance but their new signings of Lewandoski, Kessie, and Raphinha, but it will not be enough for them to clinch the title. Maybe next season. If you compare Real Madrid starting 11 to Barcelona you will easily tell which is stronger in terms of quality, strength and consistency. Besides, they still have a lot of work to do in their left-back. Having said that, one of the things that worries me though is for Benzema not to get injured.

It is not yet a conclusion that Barcelona are going to win the Lalliga tittle this season because they are still building their team,but even at that,they've had a strong squad that can win the Lalliga tittle this season.Tried Last season, and would have won the tittle if not that Madrid were already ahead of them with so many points,so this season,they have added some quality players that can help them fight for the tittle.So I feel and think that Barcelona will win the Lalliga tittle this season.

There is no guarantee that they will win La Liga. Barcelona may be building a good squad, but their opponent is last year's UCL champion Real Madrid. They'll have to get past them first. I feel like there will be a fierce rivalry between the two. I feel that the winner of the race will be Real Madrid. The title race, which was in Serie A last year, could be in La Liga this year. Time will tell whether Barça or Real will win the championship.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 09, 2022, 09:33:20 AM

Quote from: zuzie on August 09, 2022, 09:04:13 AM

So far, I agree with you that the La Liga title race will most likely only be between Barcelona and Real Madrid. But the summer transfer window is still under way before it closes on September 1, which means Atletico Madrid still have time to bring in some of the players they are looking to strengthen their squad and participate in the La Liga title race.

Do not think that because Barcelona had 1-2 good games at the end of the season and preseason they will win the league. Truth be told, Barcelona sort of have a fighting chance but their new signings of Lewandoski, Kessie, and Raphinha, but it will not be enough for them to clinch the title. Maybe next season. If you compare Real Madrid starting 11 to Barcelona you will easily tell which is stronger in terms of quality, strength and consistency. Besides, they still have a lot of work to do in their left-back. Having said that, one of the things that worries me though is for Benzema not to get injured.

It is not yet a conclusion that Barcelona are going to win the Lalliga tittle this season because they are still building their team,but even at that,they've had a strong squad that can win the Lalliga tittle this season.Tried Last season, and would have won the tittle if not that Madrid were already ahead of them with so many points,so this season,they have added some quality players that can help them fight for the tittle.So I feel and think that Barcelona will win the Lalliga tittle this season.

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Quote from: topman21 on August 09, 2022, 09:40:04 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 09, 2022, 09:24:39 AM

Actually when they can compete and can give more performance there is something that can be expected from them to be able to destroy the dominance of Barcelona and Madrid and actually a few seasons ago they were able to change that and make the competition into the top 3, but after they won they slowly left and let alone a chance to destroy the 2 clubs above it because indeed they even stumbled in this season which made this like them after the champions returned to their factory settings and like clubs

Spain's La Liga is mainly dominated by a few clubs, notably Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. Other teams don't have good strikers and enough players due to the enough budget. A few days ago Barcelona already balanced team with buyern Munich polish styker Robert lewandoski. So undoubtedly Real Madrid and Barcelona two top ranked favourite team would play the final match.

Atletico Madrid has the potential to maintain its position as last season to target third position. Because 1 and 2 are still ideal positions for Real Madrid and Barcelona. If you look at Atletico Madrid's ambitions last season, they didn't just stumble, but they were too confident and didn't realize that players who couldn't control their emotions only had a bad impact on the team's performance.

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Quote from: Davian144 on August 08, 2022, 11:07:18 PM

Atletico Madrid can still enliven the competition for the La Liga title even though Atletico Madrid did not add really quality players and Simeone did not change tactics.
But I still believe that Simeone will provide the best tactics for Atletico Madrid next season in order to compete with the two big teams (Barcelona and Real Madrid) for the title in La Liga.

I think this is a little difficult.
I don't know why when I saw their performances last season I started to feel they are now going to struggle a little and most likely will only be in the top 3 but will not enliven the title race.
At the moment there are some problems in their attack, Suarez is gone, Griezman still hasn't been able to get his form back but there are even more advantages now with Morata back with their squad.

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