La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3382.

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Quote from: baeva on July 29, 2022, 07:29:01 PM

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The next question is, will some players survive the pay cut? Or are these many players' purchases really worth the payoff? Because after all, Barcelona is still not out of the financial crisis. Although they may use some strategies to face financial problems.

Cutting players' wages is not the solution to the financial problem. When they signed the contract with Barcelona the players had a clearly stated amount of money they should be paid, in this case the team is in breach of the terms. How the players tolerate this I cannot understand because it is nonsense. You could tell the players to play for free...

This is like making a solution to another problem, so there is no exact solution to cutting their salary, this is only for a moment, a matter of time. No matter what, if they're still there, they may ask for an increased salary during the season, moreover if they know that they have made some winnings.
Buying so many players is risky for Barcelona, we know that one of the financial problems faced right now is also because of the high previous purchases without considering whether the purchase is exactly needed or not at that time. that is one of the problems, added with some other complicated problems inside of the management.
Now, we just can wait and see how they can face this financial problem so that all players stay in the club and strengthen the squad, and the Barcelona club itself will not suffer losses and eliminate the financial crisis it faces. Btw, they are also now considering selling some of their players, aren't they?

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Quote from: terrorJR on July 29, 2022, 05:27:22 PM

Lewandowski is one of the players with an astonishing goal productivity every year in the Bundesliga. On the other side, Benzema this season 2021/2022 won the top score in 2 big leagues, namely the Champions League and La Liga. This will definitely make El Clasico hot again.

Obviously this is what Lewandowski is hoping for, which is to know how far his quality differs from Benzema who has a nickname comparable to what Lewandowski had at Bayern Munich. When trying to keep wanting to go to Barcelona, of course, the atmosphere is quite dramatic in La Liga. We can't wait to see how euphoric this competition is.

Let's say Barcelona vs Real Madrid, because this is what we are most looking forward to at the start of the season.

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Quote from: baeva on July 29, 2022, 07:29:01 PM

Quote from: TelolettOm on July 29, 2022, 06:59:22 PM

The next question is, will some players survive the pay cut? Or are these many players' purchases really worth the payoff? Because after all, Barcelona is still not out of the financial crisis. Although they may use some strategies to face financial problems.

Cutting players' wages is not the solution to the financial problem. When they signed the contract with Barcelona the players had a clearly stated amount of money they should be paid, in this case the team is in breach of the terms. How the players tolerate this I cannot understand because it is nonsense. You could tell the players to play for free...

What I wonder is whether Barcelona will survive such a risky gamble, because in order to sign players and alleviate its financial situation, it has sold 25% of its image rights for the next 25 years to the American investment fund Sixth Street.

Barcelona's ability to raise finance is great, but it is not unlimited. I wonder what Barcelona is going to do if at some point over the next 25 years it runs into financial problems, which is likely to happen at some point, because the financing obtained now has not wiped out the club's total debt, is it going to mortgage the rights for the next 100 years? Is anyone going to pay them for it?

Proof that this desperate financing does not solve all the problems is that:

'The club needs to shave 160 million off the money spent on first team wages per season, in June estimated at 560 million (including salary deferrals, including Lionel Messi's). So, if the club does not manage to activate a new "financial lever", as they label the sale of assets - after transferring the TV rights, they believe they can sell BLM (the club's retail company) - they will have to transfer players. The one targeted by the board is Frenkie De Jong, one of the players with the highest market value, the only one for whom offers have reached the Camp Nou'.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on July 29, 2022, 05:38:00 PM

Lewandowski's having a good chemistry with the team is going to be the key factor for Barcelona. Honestly I don't expect him to struggle to do this. Xavi must have already prepared his strategies in the way that he can adapt quickly. Barcelona are going to be expected to fight for the title until the end this time. Real Madrid might not have a comfortable season like in the last one. This is the thing we would like to see too of course. Last season wasn't very exciting because of Real Madrid's dominating the whole season.

I hope so, at least it's not the same like the previous seasons. If barcelona can play better and better, im sure that there will be a very competitive season this year. Barcelona is the only club that can stop the domination that already made by real madrid. Madrid under uncelotti is so good.
Barcelona has a lot of home work for the next season.

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If Xavi can really manage the players and make them in solid condition, Barcelona will be exactly turning back into a very strong club like in their high tension at that time. Barcelona really has several new players that are very strong, they are also ambitious for some reasons. They have strong forward-liners Aubameyang and Lewandowski, supported by Raphinha, Dembele, Ansu Fati, Ferran Torres, Franck Kessie, and back by Jules Kounde and other defenders, and some other great midfielders.
They really have completed the squad and its substitutions.
Real Madrid really will have a tough opponent this season. I am a fan of Real Madrid, but I admit that Barcelona this season will be very different from the previous, one and will not be easy to defeat. Let's enjoy the El Classico very much again.

The next question is, will some players survive the pay cut? Or are these many players' purchases really worth the payoff? Because after all, Barcelona is still not out of the financial crisis. Although they may use some strategies to face financial problems.

Cutting players' wages is not the solution to the financial problem. When they signed the contract with Barcelona the players had a clearly stated amount of money they should be paid, in this case the team is in breach of the terms. How the players tolerate this I cannot understand because it is nonsense. You could tell the players to play for free...

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Quote from: Doell on July 29, 2022, 03:20:51 PM

NYRB - Barcelona, well I'm not good at predicting scores, maybe more than 4 goals Barcelona best chance is not to concede. But I wouldn't bet anything on the match, Barcelona will definitely test Lewandowski.

Yes, it might happen considering that previously Barcelona also beat an American team with a score of 0 - 6. However, I think Inter Miami is very different from the NYRB. NYRB is stronger than Inter Miami, maybe we will see Barcelona win this match, but with fewer goals.

Quote from: dezoel on July 29, 2022, 03:35:47 PM

Now Barcelona is having two Friendly matches one against NYRB with is going to be easy game for them with home team is not strong enough for them and they can thrash them by score of 3 - 0 or 4 - 0 after this match they are going to Mexico for their last Friendly match before start of regular season here in Spain.

Your guess is not much different from @Doell, IMO, Barcelona will win with a score of 0 - 2 or 1 - 2.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on July 29, 2022, 06:32:13 PM

If Xavi can really manage the players and make them in solid condition, Barcelona will be exactly turning back into a very strong club like in their high tension at that time. Barcelona really has several new players that are very strong, they are also ambitious for some reasons. They have strong forward-liners Aubameyang and Lewandowski, supported by Raphinha, Dembele, Ansu Fati, Ferran Torres, Franck Kessie, and back by Jules Kounde and other defenders, and some other great midfielders.
They really have completed the squad and its substitutions.
Real Madrid really will have a tough opponent this season. I am a fan of Real Madrid, but I admit that Barcelona this season will be very different from the previous, one and will not be easy to defeat. Let's enjoy the El Classico very much again.

The next question is, will some players survive the pay cut? Or are these many players' purchases really worth the payoff? Because after all, Barcelona is still not out of the financial crisis. Although they may use some strategies to face financial problems.
If there is no matter, exactly Barcelona will be really hard to face, additionally when all of the new squads can really join and blend in the squad properly, without any self ambition that will make them ego is to be the best player i the club, and if they are solid enough, they will be a very great team again. Love this.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on July 29, 2022, 04:17:46 PM

Barcelona should be able to have a much better season than the previous one. There are big expectations from especially Lewandowski and Raphinha in this season. Xavi isn't refraining from spending too much money now as he is targeting to build right the team he wants to see. Kounde has also been signed by them officially for a transfer fee of 50 million euros (according to Transfermarkt).

Of course, they must have a better season because they already spent a huge amount of money to sign some top players. It will be very poor if there is no improvement in their performance this season. They now have Lewandowski, Raphinha, Kounde, Kessie and Christensen, these are experienced players who have great skills. We can start to doubt Xavi's ability in managing a club if he can't win any title this season. Grin

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They still don't seem like they will stop as they are targeting one left back and one right back also.

They only have 1 right-back and 1 left-back, sure they will continue to target new players for these positions. They will be in trouble if they have no substitutions for these positions.

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Quote from: MCobian on July 29, 2022, 05:31:30 PM

Of course next season will be more difficult for Real Madrid to win the La Liga trophy again, especially with the purchase of players made by Barcelona.
Now it can be said that Barcelona already has a very strong squad,

If Xavi can really manage the players and make them in solid condition, Barcelona will be exactly turning back into a very strong club like in their high tension at that time. Barcelona really has several new players that are very strong, they are also ambitious for some reasons. They have strong forward-liners Aubameyang and Lewandowski, supported by Raphinha, Dembele, Ansu Fati, Ferran Torres, Franck Kessie, and back by Jules Kounde and other defenders, and some other great midfielders.
They really have completed the squad and its substitutions.
Real Madrid really will have a tough opponent this season. I am a fan of Real Madrid, but I admit that Barcelona this season will be very different from the previous, one and will not be easy to defeat. Let's enjoy the El Classico very much again.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on July 29, 2022, 05:38:00 PM

Lewandowski's having a good chemistry with the team is going to be the key factor for Barcelona. Honestly I don't expect him to struggle to do this. Xavi must have already prepared his strategies in the way that he can adapt quickly. Barcelona are going to be expected to fight for the title until the end this time. Real Madrid might not have a comfortable season like in the last one. This is the thing we would like to see too of course. Last season wasn't very exciting because of Real Madrid's dominating the whole season.

Xavi were in fifa career mode lol .

He seems spending money from a club that has unlimited fund while everyone thinks that barcelona are broke. Kessie , rapinha , lewandowski and now kounde ... all of the cost a lot of money , not a cheap one!
What a move by xavi , real madrid must be aware about this and they have not making any significant changes.

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Lewandowski's having a good chemistry with the team is going to be the key factor for Barcelona. Honestly I don't expect him to struggle to do this. Xavi must have already prepared his strategies in the way that he can adapt quickly. Barcelona are going to be expected to fight for the title until the end this time. Real Madrid might not have a comfortable season like in the last one. This is the thing we would like to see too of course. Last season wasn't very exciting because of Real Madrid's dominating the whole season.

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Barcelona should be able to have a much better season than the previous one. There are big expectations from especially Lewandowski and Raphinha in this season. Xavi isn't refraining from spending too much money now as he is targeting to build right the team he wants to see. Kounde has also been signed by them officially for a transfer fee of 50 million euros (according to Transfermarkt). They still don't seem like they will stop as they are targeting one left back and one right back also.

Actually I also don't really like this because as you said they don't hold back in the transfer market even though they are having financial difficulties.
But if you look at their current squad, it is very hopeful to see them competitive in La Liga now after last season Madrid smoothly took the trophy. although indeed I still see Madrid will bring the trophy again now but it will still be a bit difficult for now.

Of course next season will be more difficult for Real Madrid to win the La Liga trophy again, especially with the purchase of players made by Barcelona.
Now it can be said that Barcelona already has a very strong squad, not only Barcelona's main players who have good quality, however, Barcelona has
a reserve player whose quality is not much different from the main players. This means that Barcelona has a very good squad depth, it's just
a matter of how Xavi makes good use of Barcelona's players.

Very different from Real Madrid, which in some positions does not have substitutes of the same quality as the main players. So Real Madrid, if one of
its main players is injured, will experience a decline in performance. Real Madrid should have brought in more new players, especially Real Madrid had
to bring in a striker as a cover for Benzema. If there were no injuries to the main Real Madrid players, Real Madrid had a chance to win the La Liga
trophy again. We'll see how Barcelona and Real Madrid will compete next season, La Liga next season of course I think will be much more interesting
than the previous season.

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Quote from: lalabotax on July 29, 2022, 04:46:59 PM

Yes of course. High tension in El Classico not only occurs on the field but also off the field. We certainly know how the fans of both clubs will react to El Classico, to the players. And their arguments are very interesting to read, sometimes they become fun entertainment to fill spare time.
It is undeniable since the first, El Classico has become one of the most awaited moments of a football match. The winner of El Classico is often unexpected.

Indirectly, Lewandowski's presence there can evoke euphoria in El Clasico which has indeed decreased in recent years slightly when the absence of Ronaldo and the last Messi.
Lewandowski is one of the players with an astonishing goal productivity every year in the Bundesliga. On the other side, Benzema this season 2021/2022 won the top score in 2 big leagues, namely the Champions League and La Liga. This will definitely make El Clasico hot again.

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Currently the two best teams in La Liga are Real Madrid and Barcelona. Although we can see that Real Madrid's rating is currently much ahead. However, Real Madrid and Barcelona will soon be on par in terms of the number of players Barcelona are buying into their club. But still considering the direction of the game or the direction of the player, Real Madrid will definitely be ahead.

From a player perspective, it seems that Barcelona are now looking to win the title again after a few seasons of their absence to win the title because a major reshuffle occurred when Xavi took office, even though it seemed that they did not care about their financial condition.
But obviously in this case Madrid are one step ahead because regardless of now Madrid are starting to regenerate their players and this means their aim is not only for the short term but the long term.

From the players perspective, Barcelona is in a "win now" mode and if they do not, it is going to all come down on their heads. So, they either accept that risk and get a job there and play their heart out to win something, or else they are going to be in a club that they signed with which doesn't have the money to pay them anymore. That's a risk I wouldn't take as a football player at that level, these are all huge names and instead of getting 5, you could get 3.5 and instead of having a possibility of 5 not being paid, you could guarantee that 3.5 instead. Anyone who doesn't see the financial trouble should fire their agent and find a new one because even I can see that.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on July 29, 2022, 02:24:36 PM

Barcelona are a lot better now with the additions acquired this summer. Their preseason games is just a test of their readiness and quality for the coming season and so far they are showing a very high level of improvement. They looked much more composed in their attack and in defense against their core rivals in their friendly game and at this point I agree to the opinion that they look much more contenders than Real Madrid.

That's correct @CryptoPanda Barcelona had good games especially with them both games against Juventus and Real Madrid. The boys are having closely related amongst themselves. Lewandoski and Fait seems to have started generating a bond between them both already.
As it use to be Barcelona debut manager, has always won a trophy at the first season of them debut manager. Xavi should win the. La Liga for Barcelona next season no joke's

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 28, 2022, 05:17:03 PM

Quote from: lalabotax on July 28, 2022, 04:59:13 PM

El Clasico will be always a tight match with high tension. It was normal if there was drama during the match.

That's why El Clasico is so entertaining and much awaited by La Liga fans, because neither Real Madrid nor Barcelona will compete to prove to be
the best. As you have explained, sometimes the tension in the match is very high and can provoke the emotions of players.

Yes of course. High tension in El Classico not only occurs on the field but also off the field. We certainly know how the fans of both clubs will react to El Classico, to the players. And their arguments are very interesting to read, sometimes they become fun entertainment to fill spare time.
It is undeniable since the first, El Classico has become one of the most awaited moments of a football match. The winner of El Classico is often unexpected.

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This issue of Barcelona owing player's salaries or wages is not cool, especially for a big club like Barcelona. I mean, if this case goes to court it will not be good for Barcelona and the kind of name it bears as a football club. This is a prestigious club, every player who goes their goes with high hopes and expectations, players wages should be a must do in their list of priorities. Hopefully this issue gets resolved before it gets out of hand.

Barcelona will of course pay the player's arrears salaries even though it will take a long time. maybe if barcelona can reach the target next season which means Barcelona can win the Laliga title I think barcelona finances will recover even though it's not 100%.
In this situation the Barcelona players can also see the financial position of Barcelona which is in crisis due to the Covid disaster and others. well for now all parties may be able to understand it and I hope the salary issue will be resolved soon.

They seem quite stingy in issuing salaries now but they are too big to buy players at high prices Cheesy

Maybe in this case there are some parties who will not understand because it is very funny that they continue to ask for salary waivers and continue to withhold salaries but buy players at prices that should be able to pay off all of it. Pique who had reacted was ignored and they hoped Pique would retire soon. This is obviously very funny to me.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 29, 2022, 06:26:59 AM

Yes, it's actually a friendly match to see how their squad plays, with the addition of new players, and the loss of players who used to be mainstays, it's all seen from here. Regardless of who wins or loses, but here their strengths and weaknesses are prioritized, I agree with that. In addition, this is an opportunity for young players to show their abilities if they get a chance to play.

It is true that even if it is a friendly match only, it can determine how ready a club to face a new season is. A coach can learn their current squad quality from friendly matches, consider how effective the strategy to use, and see how good the new players' adaptation is. These things are very necessary because they can be some matters to be evaluated by a coach before the new season starts. A coach needs to know the strengths or weaknesses of his club, so he can prepare the club maximally during the pre-season.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on July 29, 2022, 04:17:46 PM

Barcelona should be able to have a much better season than the previous one. There are big expectations from especially Lewandowski and Raphinha in this season. Xavi isn't refraining from spending too much money now as he is targeting to build right the team he wants to see. Kounde has also been signed by them officially for a transfer fee of 50 million euros (according to Transfermarkt). They still don't seem like they will stop as they are targeting one left back and one right back also.

Actually I also don't really like this because as you said they don't hold back in the transfer market even though they are having financial difficulties.
But if you look at their current squad, it is very hopeful to see them competitive in La Liga now after last season Madrid smoothly took the trophy. although indeed I still see Madrid will bring the trophy again now but it will still be a bit difficult for now.

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Barcelona should be able to have a much better season than the previous one. There are big expectations from especially Lewandowski and Raphinha in this season. Xavi isn't refraining from spending too much money now as he is targeting to build right the team he wants to see. Kounde has also been signed by them officially for a transfer fee of 50 million euros (according to Transfermarkt). They still don't seem like they will stop as they are targeting one left back and one right back also.

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