La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3475.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 22, 2022, 07:41:03 AM

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I thought that only Chelsea were after signing Sevilla defender Kounde. Barcelona also seem interested to sign him now however they aren't very eager to pay the asking fee like 60 million euros. Barcelona aren't financially stable as we all know and they don't have an option to spend a lot of money now. They are targeting a few players these days and they want to finish these deals or at least some of them for as low price as possible. Considering that I think Barcelona will fail in signing Kounde and Chelsea will stay one step ahead of them.

Yes they (Barcelona) also expect Jules Kounde to be part of them next season to make up for what they lacked last season. However, Sevilla's price is an obstacle for them, on the other hand it is profitable for Chelsea who are also eyeing this player. If the situation doesn't change then I think Chelsea will get his signature soon, as you say.

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I thought that only Chelsea were after signing Sevilla defender Kounde. Barcelona also seem interested to sign him now however they aren't very eager to pay the asking fee like 60 million euros. Barcelona aren't financially stable as we all know and they don't have an option to spend a lot of money now. They are targeting a few players these days and they want to finish these deals or at least some of them for as low price as possible. Considering that I think Barcelona will fail in signing Kounde and Chelsea will stay one step ahead of them.

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it is not easy to manage finances, because the whole market is drugged
the only thing you can do is to grow talents (like Atalanta in Italy) with a strong "spring" team (spring)
just so you can have good players and money (why do you sell them)
without this, nothing is done

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 22, 2022, 03:45:52 AM

Sevilla centre-back Jules Kunde is a target for the Blaugrana squad to strengthen their defence, but Barcelona are finding it difficult to meet Sevilla's €60 million price tag for them to let go of this player. Once again they are hampered by their financial problems which are still struggling with it. This is the umpteenth time they have had trouble getting players due to financial factors.

yes that's true but Barcelona are now working hard to improve their finances, by selling broadcasting rights and also selling some of their players to be able to sign the new players they want.
I think Barcelona will be able to rise or get out of the financial crisis they are currently facing, especially since their performance last season was very promising after being handled by their new coach Xavi Hernandez.

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Quote from: Harkorede on June 22, 2022, 06:01:08 AM

AFAIK, Koundé has only been a target for Barcelona and it will remain that way for the foreseeable future, not with Barca's financial dilemma, Koundé is only 23 years of age and got just two years left on his contract at Sevilla' I really don't see Barcelona going all out and out of line for him when they can stay in contact and get him for relatively cheaper next year, with the hop that the financial status would have been better or in 2 years when he'll be just 25 years as a free agent, provided he doesn't renew his contract, I'd expect him not in as much as there's a reasonable approach from Barca.

Chelsea has been in direct contact with Sevila and Kounde's agents since the previous transfer failure last season, when Kounde skipped training for after his release clause was increased last minute in an attempt to keep him at the club.

Personal terms were agreed upon with Chelsea a few weeks ago, and it's only a matter of time before Chelsea submit an official bid for him. He wants to join Chelsea, and the Barcelona deal is just a rumor because they don't have the financial capability to pay such a high fee for a player right now, as they're still struggling to register Andre Christiansen. Let's see how the drama plays out.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 22, 2022, 03:45:52 AM

Sevilla centre-back Jules Kunde is a target for the Blaugrana squad to strengthen their defence, but Barcelona are finding it difficult to meet Sevilla's €60 million price tag for them to let go of this player. Once again they are hampered by their financial problems which are still struggling with it. This is the umpteenth time they have had trouble getting players due to financial factors.

Haven't they solved them Financial challenges already ? But if they haven't, Kounde is a good talent but I still don't see the France international joining Barcelona. Xavi Hernandez can possibly work on Araujo and newly signed Christensen from Chelsea. Although, Sevilla will be opened to sell. I wouldn't want to sell to Barcelona coz they're good opposing sides of Sevilla. Chelsea should be a good option for him. Double doubts if he Gon too very well coz , the likes of Kurt Zouma have been used by Chelsea and didn't make up with Chelsea.

Barcelona are recruiting good players, some are not finalized successfully but if done, they will do excellently perfect in the new Campaign and Season. My potential candidate for the Spanish La Liga should be Barcelona.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 22, 2022, 03:45:52 AM

Sevilla centre-back Jules Kunde is a target for the Blaugrana squad to strengthen their defence, but Barcelona are finding it difficult to meet Sevilla's €60 million price tag for them to let go of this player. Once again they are hampered by their financial problems which are still struggling with it. This is the umpteenth time they have had trouble getting players due to financial factors.

Jules Koundé himself is a young player and is still under contract for 2 more seasons with Sevilla, so of course Sevilla charge a high price because Jules Koundé's performance and contribution is very good. In the 32 matches played by Jules Koundé in La Liga, he managed 2 goals and 1 assist, as a center back it was a great achievement. Barcelona itself in this transfer window has many plans to buy, so with financial chaos, of course, it will not be easy for Barcelona to get their target player.

AFAIK, Koundé has only been a target for Barcelona and it will remain that way for the foreseeable future, not with Barca's financial dilemma, Koundé is only 23 years of age and got just two years left on his contract at Sevilla' I really don't see Barcelona going all out and out of line for him when they can stay in contact and get him for relatively cheaper next year, with the hop that the financial status would have been better or in 2 years when he'll be just 25 years as a free agent, provided he doesn't renew his contract, I'd expect him not in as much as there's a reasonable approach from Barca.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 22, 2022, 03:45:52 AM

Sevilla centre-back Jules Kunde is a target for the Blaugrana squad to strengthen their defence, but Barcelona are finding it difficult to meet Sevilla's €60 million price tag for them to let go of this player. Once again they are hampered by their financial problems which are still struggling with it. This is the umpteenth time they have had trouble getting players due to financial factors.

Jules Koundé himself is a young player and is still under contract for 2 more seasons with Sevilla, so of course Sevilla charge a high price because Jules Koundé's performance and contribution is very good. In the 32 matches played by Jules Koundé in La Liga, he managed 2 goals and 1 assist, as a center back it was a great achievement. Barcelona itself in this transfer window has many plans to buy, so with financial chaos, of course, it will not be easy for Barcelona to get their target player.

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Sevilla centre-back Jules Kunde is a target for the Blaugrana squad to strengthen their defence, but Barcelona are finding it difficult to meet Sevilla's €60 million price tag for them to let go of this player. Once again they are hampered by their financial problems which are still struggling with it. This is the umpteenth time they have had trouble getting players due to financial factors.

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Barcelona are in a much weaker condition than Real Madrid financially now. This isn't everything for these teams to make it to the league title of course. Barcelona didn't have a better squad than Real Madrid last season but they still did a very impressive job thanks to Xavi. Now it seems like Barcelona aren't going to be able to add many new players to the team or to make many big signings. But it is still going to be up to them to close the gap with Real Madrid by performing much higher.

I think, Barcelona will definitely improve higher in next season because their coach has promised the fans that he will do everything possible to improve the team to perform better in next season than this season. I believe Barcelona is seriously lacking in the areas of defense and midfield which their coach will likely to do what will improve their defenders and midfielders in next season. I don't think, Real Madrid will reduce their performance in next season because their coach is fully ready to introduce more tactics into the team that will help them to perform well in next season.

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Quote from: minairia3 on June 20, 2022, 07:34:50 PM

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Real Madrid is looking to be a lot more comfortable going into the next season because they had only one problem this season and that was the defensive line. Now they have fixed that so they don't have too much to worry about I think.

Exactly, this squad should be better than the previous season. After taking better defense, they should be able to make their best performance again and get the trophy again with this squad. I am still curious again about what will be added soon to the Real Madrid team exactly.

Quote from: minairia3 on June 20, 2022, 07:34:50 PM

I thought Barcelona has the chance but now I think Barcelona is not going to give them too much trouble because they could not get the players that they wanted. Not going to be surprised if this is another season of Real Madrid domination.

Although it is possible, it may be more difficult. So far, El Classico is not only about one match of the two, but also the La Liga title race. These two teams always become the top candidates to be the winner. But this season may again go to Real Madrid. Grin

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Quote from: dezoel on June 21, 2022, 04:03:54 PM

In last season, Real Madrid were on good run and with this luck was also giving them good favor because Barcelona having the worst start of season and Sevilla and Atlético Madrid were not able to give them good competition, so they enjoy good wins in La Liga and Champions League but in this season as Barcelona is preparing they have to manage things in strong way because now it's not easy to do like they already achieve in last season. But, with the best combination of old and new players they are still very strong and capable of win any title which they won last season.

As many already posted there is no doubt Modric, Benzema, Vasquez are their key players for next season as well and if anyone slumps it's going to be worst for them like Barcelona.

Indeed, at this time the combination of Barcelona in the future will be more promising, plus if their finances recover from the crisis. Unfortunately, their finances are the biggest obstacle to making many breakthroughs to bring in other great players. Now Barcelona is struggling with confidence even with minimal finances, it turns out that Xavi's seriousness can be seen again bringing back the El clasico era.

Real Madrid does have a key that can last until next season, in exchange there will be alternative players who will certainly be reserved to close the gap in the future. But it must be admitted Real Madrid will be difficult to predict.

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on June 21, 2022, 02:49:24 PM

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So, I actually don't think it is going to be much of a competition between them and Real Madrid. I hope that it will not be as one-sided as it was the last season. That I am not going to be surprised if it is. It doesn't look like Barcelona is going to be able to get Robert Lewandowski.

I agree with you. Only Real Madrid fought for the title last season. Sevilla, Atletico Madrid and Barcelona were far behind than Real Madrid. But next season will not be like that. Barcelona is increasing their strength. Although Barcelona is not financially stable now, they are spending enough money to strengthen the team.

In last season, Real Madrid were on good run and with this luck was also giving them good favor because Barcelona having the worst start of season and Sevilla and Atlético Madrid were not able to give them good competition, so they enjoy good wins in La Liga and Champions League but in this season as Barcelona is preparing they have to manage things in strong way because now it's not easy to do like they already achieve in last season. But, with the best combination of old and new players they are still very strong and capable of win any title which they won last season.

As many already posted there is no doubt Modric, Benzema, Vasquez are their key players for next season as well and if anyone slumps it's going to be worst for them like Barcelona.

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Quote from: Roidz on June 21, 2022, 10:26:17 AM

Barcelona optimal or not really depends on the depth of their squad, but with the right strategy of course Xavi can optimize existing players to compete next season, in fact with strategy and hard work a team is not impossible to win a competition even if only with a makeshift squad, I think there have been many examples of teams that didn't have a capable squad but were able to win the league so far, so right now actually improving finances is Barcelona main focus rather than anything else.

We can say Leicester for example, I mean that is not a common thing and happens very very rarely and I am not expecting anything like that right now, Barcelona is not given that low odds, they are not seen as possible champions but Leicester was like at the very best case top half type of team whereas people would be expecting Barcelona to be second in the league next season unless something happens.

This is why them getting a championship this year wouldn't be a shock, if Real somehow sucks for some reason out of nowhere, there aren't that many teams which would fight to get it, maybe ATM as well, but Barcelona would be the one that will get it if real fails.

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Quote from: mamesso on June 21, 2022, 05:12:33 AM

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Real Madrid players perform well in their positions and their performance is very stable due to the very good understanding between the players. At the same time their coach is very experienced. On the other hand, their key striker Benzema has been in good form for almost the entire season. But he is old enough now. Madrid management will have to find a suitable replacement for Benzema now. At the same time, midfielder Modrich may retire in a few seasons. Real Madrid should find a suitable replacement for these two players. Otherwise, if they retire together, Real Madrid will not be able to maintain the continuity of their performance.

I heard something similar at the beginning of last year, when many people said that Real Madrid players are no longer young and they have big problems with the striker, but as we can see, they won the Champions League. Yes Modric is not young Cross either, but they are still playing very well. It’s too early to talk about the end of Benzema’s career now, and Vinicius is also growing up and gaining experience, so Real Madrid has no problems.

The combination of old players and young players can lead Real Madrid to win La Liga and the Champions League. Yes, some Real Madrid players are old, but they can still be relied on. Modric plays a good role in the midfield position, while Benzema's productivity in scoring goals is increasing. Real Madrid cannot rely on them for too long, the club must quickly find suitable replacements for Modric and Benzema. Real Madrid is not too difficult to find talented players, very many players are interested in being part of the Real Madrid squad, because the history of the club is able to attract the interest of the players anchored the Santiago Bernabeu.

@Cryptmuster, Real Madrid did not have the main competition in the league which was Barcelona. Barcelona was basically out of the equation. So Real Madrid did not have too many problems winning the league title but I think Real Madrid did really well to win the Champions League as well. And even though the players of Real Madrid are old right now they have lots of experience and that came in handy

Yes, I also agree with mamesso, I think Real Madrid had a really good balance of young and old players. And that helped Real Madrid a lot when it came to performing on the big stage of the Champions League. And obviously, we cannot forget that Benzema was absolutely on fire for Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 20, 2022, 09:41:57 AM

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Exactly. In my opinion, this is a really desperate move, as this is how Barcelona sells its future earnings. It's not a loan, but in a way it's even worse. It turns out that the cash flow of Barcelona in the future will be less and in order to remain competitive they need to be head and shoulders above the rest. But I don't see why this could happen. Still, it's probably better than immediate bankruptcy.

The steps they took must have been considered long enough to come to a conclusion to do it all. Maybe they have no other way than what they are doing now. No one wanted a move like this to happen, but when there was no other way, it had to be done. I didn't think they would be this difficult before, but it seems something extraordinary has happened to put them in this kind of situation.

The main reason is debt. As I understand it, Barcelona had problems with payments both to creditors and even salaries to ordinary workers. This is a forced decision and it solves the current problems (but not completely by the way) but in terms of prospects, Barcelona puts itself in a much worse position than any of the competitors.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 21, 2022, 05:49:42 AM

Yes Real Madrid have no problems at the moment but we don't know when they have to lose the key to their game, Kross, Modric, Benzema and some other players. It is true that Vinicius has grown and developed very well, he has grown because of the support of his very experienced teammates, he must take advantage of this opportunity while his seniors can still play together.

If you look at this condition I still feel that they are ready for it and indeed it is proven by them bringing Tchoameni there. On the other hand, I also think that Modric's role can be replaced with Valverde, who for some time last season was often placed in Modric's position even though at the end of the season he was always on the wing.
I think that if some of these players are ready to be released then their replacement is already there, regardless of Valverde's role, he can adjust because he can be placed anywhere. it's the same as Marcelo in these few seasons with Mendy.

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Quote from: mamesso on June 21, 2022, 05:12:33 AM

The combination of old players and young players can lead Real Madrid to win La Liga and the Champions League. Yes, some Real Madrid players are old, but they can still be relied on. Modric plays a good role in the midfield position, while Benzema's productivity in scoring goals is increasing. Real Madrid cannot rely on them for too long, the club must quickly find suitable replacements for Modric and Benzema. Real Madrid is not too difficult to find talented players, very many players are interested in being part of the Real Madrid squad, because the history of the club is able to attract the interest of the players anchored the Santiago Bernabeu.

Every club needs highly experienced players regardless of their age, this combination will balance the team play so young players can play with more confidence. Real Madrid has a number of old players who are now over the age of 30, including Modric, Kroos, Nacho, Benzema, Carvajal, Vasquez, Casemiro and several others. For now, the average age of Real Madrid players by transfer mark is 27.5 years with a squad size of 26 players "not counting players leaving and coming".

As for Benzema and some experienced players who are now over 30 years old, I think they will most likely have a slump next season. Benzema in particular, I'm sure it will be different next season but he is a prolific player as a striker so far. It might not have much effect, but I'm sure it will happen to him.

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Quote from: kro55 on June 21, 2022, 02:22:37 PM

So, I actually don't think it is going to be much of a competition between them and Real Madrid. I hope that it will not be as one-sided as it was the last season. That I am not going to be surprised if it is. It doesn't look like Barcelona is going to be able to get Robert Lewandowski.

I agree with you. Only Real Madrid fought for the title last season. Sevilla, Atletico Madrid and Barcelona were far behind than Real Madrid. But next season will not be like that. Barcelona is increasing their strength. Although Barcelona is not financially stable now, they are spending enough money to strengthen the team.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 21, 2022, 05:58:28 AM

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I can't wait to see Barcelona next season with a new style of performance, it is a privilege for Barcelona to have a coach like xavi to begin work with the team for next season. This time things won't look the same for Barcelona like the beginning of last season.

Barcelona will definitely improve higher in next season, because their coach has discovered what made them not to perform well in this season. Now that the Barcelona managements are fully ready to purchase talented defenders and strikers, I think it will really help them to defeat those strong team in la Liga champion league next season to make their fans happy again. I believe those talented new players will definitely make the coach happy by helping the team to achieve next season title and more competition to come.

I still strongly believe in the qualities that Xavi Hernandez has where he proved himself with Barcelona last season, with the financial crisis experienced by the Catalan club making Xavi at least be able to bring Barcelona to a second place finish, moreover Barcelona has negotiated with Bayern Munich to sign Lewandowski as the main force in navigating the competition next season, of course next year will be a real proof for Xavi because he is charged with bringing Barcelona back to dominate the Spanish competition and the UCL next season

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