La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3479.

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I heard that Barcelona is going to sell some of their media rights and get 600 million for it. If this trick succeeds, it will seriously improve their position and allow for more high-profile transfers than even the transfer of Lewandowski. Another thing is that if they do not change their unprofitable model, then gradually they will sell everything they can and someday they will simply have nothing to sell.

And some time ago there were rumors saying that this has been approved by the board of members, they will sell at least 49.9 percent of Barca Licensing & Merchandising (BLM) and 25 percent of television rights for a maximum of 25 years.
This seems like a desperate move from Barcelona but on the other hand this may also be one way from La Porta to cover the debt they currently have.

Exactly. In my opinion, this is a really desperate move, as this is how Barcelona sells its future earnings. It's not a loan, but in a way it's even worse. It turns out that the cash flow of Barcelona in the future will be less and in order to remain competitive they need to be head and shoulders above the rest. But I don't see why this could happen. Still, it's probably better than immediate bankruptcy.

The steps they took must have been considered long enough to come to a conclusion to do it all. Maybe they have no other way than what they are doing now. No one wanted a move like this to happen, but when there was no other way, it had to be done. I didn't think they would be this difficult before, but it seems something extraordinary has happened to put them in this kind of situation.

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The league definitely can't be determined by El Clasicos for Barcelona and Real Madrid. The general performance and consistency are everything for this league. Real Madrid were incredible about consistency last season and this helped them reach a very comfortable championship. I'm aware of another thing too that Barcelona were very consistent after a point but it was too late for them to fight for the championship. Next season we can really watch a stronger Barcelona but I also expect Real Madrid to be the closest team to make it.

Barcelona will definitely perform well in next season, if their managements will be able to achieve those talented midfielders and defenders in this season. Barcelona performance was very poor in this season that was causing their fans unhappy about their results, which their manager promised to give the team the best performance in next season. I don't think Real Madrid will still perform well in next season, because many teams has achieved talented new players that will help them to perform better in next season.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on June 19, 2022, 12:59:11 PM

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I heard that Barcelona is going to sell some of their media rights and get 600 million for it. If this trick succeeds, it will seriously improve their position and allow for more high-profile transfers than even the transfer of Lewandowski. Another thing is that if they do not change their unprofitable model, then gradually they will sell everything they can and someday they will simply have nothing to sell.

And some time ago there were rumors saying that this has been approved by the board of members, they will sell at least 49.9 percent of Barca Licensing & Merchandising (BLM) and 25 percent of television rights for a maximum of 25 years.
This seems like a desperate move from Barcelona but on the other hand this may also be one way from La Porta to cover the debt they currently have.

Exactly. In my opinion, this is a really desperate move, as this is how Barcelona sells its future earnings. It's not a loan, but in a way it's even worse. It turns out that the cash flow of Barcelona in the future will be less and in order to remain competitive they need to be head and shoulders above the rest. But I don't see why this could happen. Still, it's probably better than immediate bankruptcy.

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There is no information about Real Madrid trying to sign a contract with some of the world's leading strikers (unless they steal Lewandowski before Barcelona sign him). This means that they were not prepared for the failure to sign a contract with Mbappe. Everything indicates that in this situation they decided to continue with the unchanged line-up in the attack. I think it's a good decision not to change the winning squad.

I have the same thought. Real Madrid's performance was quite well last season, where they managed to get the La Liga and Champions League trophies. So as a team they can already play solidly and they have pretty good chemistry. I think a team like this doesn't need much change and hopefully, the inclusion of new signing players (which for the time being are Antonio Rudiger and Tchouameni) will not change the harmonization of the team and it would be a relief if the change could improve the team's performance.

Even if this is true but on the other hand Real Madrid must not let their lack of last season be a hindrance for now.
Last season they still had gaps at the back and their forward line seemed to be at a stalemate when Benzema was not around.
For the back line now Rudiger is there and this is a good thing but for the front line they are still quite difficult if Benzema does not play then indeed they must be able to maximize the existing potential otherwise they will add strikers.

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Quote from: snipie on June 19, 2022, 05:37:09 PM

Girona won vs Tenerife and will play again in La Liga after a couple of years from relegation. They will join La Liga with Almeria and Valladolid after the relegation of Grenada, Levante and Alaves.
I find the relegating teams more powerful than these and I am not sure if they can resist there. I think 2 of them at least will relegate by the end of the season.

Girona has been relegated on season 2018/2019 and it took only 3 years for them return to LaLiga and both of teams playing draw on first leg but yesterday Girona can beat Tenerife with final score 3-1 and compare to those promotion teams indeed most of them are underrated teams because besides Girona then Almeria and Valladolid are the teams who often to relegated and promotion in the past but it is too early to judge them because some of them possibly can playing surprising next season

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Quote from: Erdogan on June 20, 2022, 02:51:11 AM

There is no information about Real Madrid trying to sign a contract with some of the world's leading strikers (unless they steal Lewandowski before Barcelona sign him). This means that they were not prepared for the failure to sign a contract with Mbappe. Everything indicates that in this situation they decided to continue with the unchanged line-up in the attack. I think it's a good decision not to change the winning squad.

I have the same thought. Real Madrid's performance was quite well last season, where they managed to get the La Liga and Champions League trophies. So as a team they can already play solidly and they have pretty good chemistry. I think a team like this doesn't need much change and hopefully, the inclusion of new signing players (which for the time being are Antonio Rudiger and Tchouameni) will not change the harmonization of the team and it would be a relief if the change could improve the team's performance.

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I think for next season Vinicius Jr's position will remain safe, because last season's contribution in La Liga and the Champions League was huge. If he is able to maintain his game next season I think Real Madrid will give a fantastic contract, unless Real Madrid get a player with more potential than Vinicius Jr. But at least Vinicius has won the hearts of Real Madrid fans, this is no less important

Real Madrid failed to sign Mbappe, which means that Vinicius Jr will continue to be the main player for Real Madrid. Even if Real Madrid had Mbappe, I think Vinicius Jr still has a great chance to be a starter. There is no reason for Ancelotti to use Vini as a second option because Vini had a pretty good performance last season and I think for this season he will be even better.

There is no information about Real Madrid trying to sign a contract with some of the world's leading strikers (unless they steal Lewandowski before Barcelona sign him). This means that they were not prepared for the failure to sign a contract with Mbappe. Everything indicates that in this situation they decided to continue with the unchanged line-up in the attack. I think it's a good decision not to change the winning squad.

I haven't heard that Real Madrid are eyeing another quality player apart from the failure of Mbappe. I don't think that they will overtake Lewandowski from Barcelona's sights, because they still have a Benzema who played well last season. However, it is possible that it could happen. But I think they will target a player who is in the same position as Benzema to cover him if he can't be used.

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Last season's contestants, who were in second place but ultimately had to be thrown into fourth place in the Sevilla standings, are still cool in the transfer market this season. Yes, there is no interesting movement from them, they are like Manchester United in the Premier League which until now has not had any movement. I'm looking forward to a surprise from this team and to be able to compete again at the top of the table at least in La Liga.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on June 20, 2022, 01:30:50 AM

[El classico in the Spanish La Liga is an event between two classic sides Barcelona and Real Madrid a very competitive game. Gaining three points from an El classico game is good cause it shows who the better team of the day is but not enough to win you the champions of the league, it's also important to win other games against other teams in the league that's the points you need to win the league so it should be of great importance and not just focus on the El classico.

The importance of the classic is not only in soccer, as you and the previous comments on the subject focus on.

On the sporting side, it is usually the match between the two strongest teams, although it depends on the year, and to win the league you need consistency, regardless of the result of El Clasico, as you have pointed out.

El Clásico is a match between Real Madrid, which is a centralist team, and which was the favorite team of the dictator in Spain between 1939 and 1975 and a team that more or less veiled defends the independence of Catalonia with respect to the Spanish state, and has done so very explicitly in recent years.

This is the crux of the matter. In the political confrontation.

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I think for next season Vinicius Jr's position will remain safe, because last season's contribution in La Liga and the Champions League was huge. If he is able to maintain his game next season I think Real Madrid will give a fantastic contract, unless Real Madrid get a player with more potential than Vinicius Jr. But at least Vinicius has won the hearts of Real Madrid fans, this is no less important

Real Madrid failed to sign Mbappe, which means that Vinicius Jr will continue to be the main player for Real Madrid. Even if Real Madrid had Mbappe, I think Vinicius Jr still has a great chance to be a starter. There is no reason for Ancelotti to use Vini as a second option because Vini had a pretty good performance last season and I think for this season he will be even better.

There is no information about Real Madrid trying to sign a contract with some of the world's leading strikers (unless they steal Lewandowski before Barcelona sign him). This means that they were not prepared for the failure to sign a contract with Mbappe. Everything indicates that in this situation they decided to continue with the unchanged line-up in the attack. I think it's a good decision not to change the winning squad.

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I think for next season Vinicius Jr's position will remain safe, because last season's contribution in La Liga and the Champions League was huge. If he is able to maintain his game next season I think Real Madrid will give a fantastic contract, unless Real Madrid get a player with more potential than Vinicius Jr. But at least Vinicius has won the hearts of Real Madrid fans, this is no less important

Real Madrid failed to sign Mbappe, which means that Vinicius Jr will continue to be the main player for Real Madrid. Even if Real Madrid had Mbappe, I think Vinicius Jr still has a great chance to be a starter. There is no reason for Ancelotti to use Vini as a second option because Vini had a pretty good performance last season and I think for this season he will be even better.

Vinicius is a potential young player that Real Madrid have now, it would be a shame if Real Madrid didn't give high playing time to add to his flying hours.
Last season also he was a player who was always first choice and played regularly, his contribution to the team was also very good. A duet with his senior Benzema on the front lines is very effective.

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Actually every line in a team needs to be looked at and updated by every team before the start of the new season, but for Real Madrid I think the midfield and the back are the more important things to focus on at this point. Because these two lines are places that are still not strong enough for the Real Madrid team this season, even though Real Madrid are able to win two very big leagues (La Liga and Champions League) this season.

Rudiger is the new defender for Madrid who will arrive (to Madrid) on July 1 but I think that's not enough

what I think the performance has decreased a bit is Modric (central midfielder) because currently he is 36 years old and of course his stamina has decreased a bit

So for the midfielder, it looks like Carletto should try to find another young and competent one

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Quote from: AndySt on June 19, 2022, 04:55:43 PM

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The league definitely can't be determined by El Clasicos for Barcelona and Real Madrid. The general performance and consistency are everything for this league. Real Madrid were incredible about consistency last season and this helped them reach a very comfortable championship. I'm aware of another thing too that Barcelona were very consistent after a point but it was too late for them to fight for the championship. Next season we can really watch a stronger Barcelona but I also expect Real Madrid to be the closest team to make it.

El classico is a completely separate story and has a completely indirect relation to the fight for the championship title, at least due to the fact that the same number of points is given for a victory or a draw in this match as in a match with an outsider. Therefore, of course, it is possible and necessary to focus on the result of el classico, as a kind of indicator of the state and quality of the teams, but still the main result is achieved in matches with other rivals. By the way, I was impressed with how Barcelona spent the second part of the championship and if Xavi manages to postpone it for this season, the club will be one of the main contenders for the title.

El classico in the Spanish La Liga is an event between two classic sides Barcelona and Real Madrid a very competitive game. Gaining three points from an El classico game is good cause it shows who the better team of the day is but not enough to win you the champions of the league, it's also important to win other games against other teams in the league that's the points you need to win the league so it should be of great importance and not just focus on the El classico.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on June 20, 2022, 12:49:27 AM

Quote from: superman184 on June 19, 2022, 11:06:05 PM

I think for next season Vinicius Jr's position will remain safe, because last season's contribution in La Liga and the Champions League was huge. If he is able to maintain his game next season I think Real Madrid will give a fantastic contract, unless Real Madrid get a player with more potential than Vinicius Jr. But at least Vinicius has won the hearts of Real Madrid fans, this is no less important

Real Madrid failed to sign Mbappe, which means that Vinicius Jr will continue to be the main player for Real Madrid. Even if Real Madrid had Mbappe, I think Vinicius Jr still has a great chance to be a starter. There is no reason for Ancelotti to use Vini as a second option because Vini had a pretty good performance last season and I think for this season he will be even better.

Yes of course, failing to recruit Haaland and Mbappe at least there is no other choice for Madrid to keep Vinicius. Moreover, there were rumors that PSG were interested in signing Vinicius but the offer made by PSG was rejected and Vinicius chose to stay at Madrid. Also, if Vinicius is sold then I don't think there is any other striker at the moment who deserves to be Madrid's forward of the three names mentioned, unless Ronaldo returns again Madrid that might be another option.

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Quote from: superman184 on June 19, 2022, 11:06:05 PM

I think for next season Vinicius Jr's position will remain safe, because last season's contribution in La Liga and the Champions League was huge. If he is able to maintain his game next season I think Real Madrid will give a fantastic contract, unless Real Madrid get a player with more potential than Vinicius Jr. But at least Vinicius has won the hearts of Real Madrid fans, this is no less important

Real Madrid failed to sign Mbappe, which means that Vinicius Jr will continue to be the main player for Real Madrid. Even if Real Madrid had Mbappe, I think Vinicius Jr still has a great chance to be a starter. There is no reason for Ancelotti to use Vini as a second option because Vini had a pretty good performance last season and I think for this season he will be even better.

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They still can't escape the bubble and maximizing young players is indeed a pretty good thing because indeed in the current squad there are a lot of promising young players but the problem is they don't want this and just want to add a few more players.

Their finances are still quite shaken but they still consider this as trivial which makes it really difficult for them to make a decision because there are several consequences that must be accepted from the path they take, whether it's adding players or retaining by maximizing young players.

Financial problems are not trivial problems faced by Barcelona at this time. The proof is that Barcelona has cut the salaries of the players. Therefore I do not see any rash moves from the Barcelona management this summer. Barcelona interest in Lewandowski may well be the point of the work Xavi has undertaken this summer and rumors are circulating that Barcelona are preparing to make a new bid for Bayern Munich in the coming days.

It looks like this financial problem will be solved a bit on their income from selling almost 50 percent of their current shares and broadcasting rights because indeed they will definitely get 600 million for this.
But this is a fairly risky step to take. although if you really look at it there is no other way there.
On the other hand, apart from paying their temporary debt, they can also use it if they really want to bring Lewandowski.

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Quote from: Ratash on June 19, 2022, 07:00:57 PM

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Vinicius Junior is one big and Essential player in Real Madrid presently. So the Los Blancos side are preparing for a contract extension with the young Brazilian who basically scored the winning goal for them in the UEFEA League final against Liverpool. Real Madrid needs the player, not just the team, but also the president, Florentino Perez. Vinicius is gaining alot of attention and rating in Madrid at the moment because he's a star and runner who's never tired of striving for goals.

Yeah i totaly agree with you vinicious is an important piece of the team and i don't think real madrid will let him go in the near future i think the last champions league and laliga won will motivate him to stay in the biggest club in the world not to mention that he became an important piece for carlo ancelotti i think he has much more room to improve.

I think for next season Vinicius Jr's position will remain safe, because last season's contribution in La Liga and the Champions League was huge. If he is able to maintain his game next season I think Real Madrid will give a fantastic contract, unless Real Madrid get a player with more potential than Vinicius Jr. But at least Vinicius has won the hearts of Real Madrid fans, this is no less important

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Quote from: blackened515 on June 19, 2022, 06:50:26 PM

Vinicius Junior is one big and Essential player in Real Madrid presently. So the Los Blancos side are preparing for a contract extension with the young Brazilian who basically scored the winning goal for them in the UEFEA League final against Liverpool. Real Madrid needs the player, not just the team, but also the president, Florentino Perez. Vinicius is gaining alot of attention and rating in Madrid at the moment because he's a star and runner who's never tired of striving for goals.

Yeah i totaly agree with you vinicious is an important piece of the team and i don't think real madrid will let him go in the near future i think the last champions league and laliga won will motivate him to stay in the biggest club in the world not to mention that he became an important piece for carlo ancelotti i think he has much more room to improve.

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Vinicius Junior is one big and Essential player in Real Madrid presently. So the Los Blancos side are preparing for a contract extension with the young Brazilian who basically scored the winning goal for them in the UEFEA League final against Liverpool. Real Madrid needs the player, not just the team, but also the president, Florentino Perez. Vinicius is gaining alot of attention and rating in Madrid at the moment because he's a star and runner who's never tired of striving for goals.

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Quote from: Minecache on June 19, 2022, 05:26:35 AM

I don't think a coach is going to solve all the problems that PSG has right now.

I realize it, that is why I said 'not sure' it can fix the problem totally. However, by having a charismatic coach, maybe most PSG players want to follow the coach's instructions better. During this time, I feel that many PSG players were difficult to give the instructions. Especially, those top players like Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe.

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It was obviously a mistake made by PSG to give mbappe this much power. I don't think any player deserves to have the power

Agree. How can a player have the power to manage a squad?
It is a big mistake, it will bother the coach. PSG coach cannot freely manage the whole squad.

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