La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3650.

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Quote from: Zilon on March 21, 2022, 11:35:32 AM

If they were preparing for the champions league they should have atlas defended well not conceding four goals in a single match to a club that was struggling in the beginning of the season. The fact is barcelona under Xavi management has proven to be the best currently in the spanish laliga series this season.

very poor performance from Madrid. although the La Liga trophy might be easy for them to get. and they are also preparing for an important match in the Champions League, but this result shows a decline in performance from Madrid.
whether without Benzema or not, I think the rotation of players from Madrid does not need to think about a replacement for Benzema. what I see is they lose in the midfield of their game. because the ball is managed well by Barca. Barca has risen and proved to be a surprise. Madrid's bad luck conceded 4 goals.

Losing Benzema is still one of the biggest scourges today for Madrid.
Actually there are a lot of strikers who have names that shine enough individually at Madrid but their performance is still not possible and so bad that they cannot replace Benzema's role there.
Their schedule is still very tight now and it is very unfortunate if they are still like this because dependence on Benzema will be difficult to anticipate if something unexpected happens to Benzema

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Quote from: Zilon on March 21, 2022, 11:35:32 AM

If they were preparing for the champions league they should have atlas defended well not conceding four goals in a single match to a club that was struggling in the beginning of the season. The fact is barcelona under Xavi management has proven to be the best currently in the spanish laliga series this season.

very poor performance from Madrid. although the La Liga trophy might be easy for them to get. and they are also preparing for an important match in the Champions League, but this result shows a decline in performance from Madrid.
whether without Benzema or not, I think the rotation of players from Madrid does not need to think about a replacement for Benzema. what I see is they lose in the midfield of their game. because the ball is managed well by Barca. Barca has risen and proved to be a surprise. Madrid's bad luck conceded 4 goals.

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Quote from: zuzie on March 21, 2022, 03:06:12 AM

Conceding 4 goals does not mean the Madrid defense is weak the fact that in La Liga Madrid are the team that conceded the second fewest After Sevilla
Based on the quality of the two teams not much different it's just a matter of lucky day that Barcelona won today, indeed 4 goals is a bit embarrassing.

Xavi knows very well how to deal with Madrid. The strategy used is perfect. Madrid let Xavi's team control the midfield and that's the result that Madrid must accept.
although at the beginning Madrid had a greater chance of winning. but now Barca is showing the quality of their return game. playing without Benzema is very difficult for Madrid to penetrate the strength of Barca's game. 14 shots only 4 on target. looks like Madrid lost their goal machine.

Agreed, after Xavi became Barcelona coach they started doing well and they finally got to the top. But no one expected the last game against Real Madrid to be so great. I thought they couldn't win in Madrid, but I was wrong. I didn't think Barcelona were capable of playing like that right now.

I think it is quite too early to conclude that this Barcelona side are back to their glory days form no doubt Xavi has revolutionize this team but they should start winning trophies before I can place them at that level. Real Madrid were rather extremely poor and helplessly disjointed in that game, Vinicius Jnr was no where to be found even the Midfield was in shambles. It could be that Real Madrid underrated Barcelona coming into the game and other factor is the absence of Benzema.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on March 20, 2022, 05:32:48 PM

It's really incredible..
Without Benzema, I also thought that their gameplay will not be as good as usual, but I didn't expect that it will be very high like this.
Barcelona was very motivated and powerful, from the beginning, their offensive really cornered the Real Madrid defense.
I also realized that Barcelona might have a bigger chance to win when Benzema is absent, but I didn't expect that the result will to be 4-0. Wow, holly suprise. Although I guess that Real Madrid may let this match be lost because they wnat to focus on UCL. But, This is El Classico and this is prestige.

It is unlikely that this defeat can be explained by the fact that Real is concentrating on the Champions League - right now Real have a simple segment of the calendar and they could play here at full strength. I think this is Ancelotti's coaching mistake. Real had to give Barcelona the ball and sit in a deep defense playing on the counter (then maybe Real would have won 4-0 and not Barcelona). This is the most effective tactic that allows you to achieve results against a team playing ball control. Or play total pressure and ball control like Bayern. Real played something in between and lost.

If they were preparing for the champions league they should have atlas defended well not conceding four goals in a single match to a club that was struggling in the beginning of the season. The fact is barcelona under Xavi management has proven to be the best currently in the spanish laliga series this season.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on March 20, 2022, 05:32:48 PM

It's really incredible..
Without Benzema, I also thought that their gameplay will not be as good as usual, but I didn't expect that it will be very high like this.
Barcelona was very motivated and powerful, from the beginning, their offensive really cornered the Real Madrid defense.
I also realized that Barcelona might have a bigger chance to win when Benzema is absent, but I didn't expect that the result will to be 4-0. Wow, holly suprise. Although I guess that Real Madrid may let this match be lost because they wnat to focus on UCL. But, This is El Classico and this is prestige.

It is unlikely that this defeat can be explained by the fact that Real is concentrating on the Champions League - right now Real have a simple segment of the calendar and they could play here at full strength. I think this is Ancelotti's coaching mistake. Real had to give Barcelona the ball and sit in a deep defense playing on the counter (then maybe Real would have won 4-0 and not Barcelona). This is the most effective tactic that allows you to achieve results against a team playing ball control. Or play total pressure and ball control like Bayern. Real played something in between and lost.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on March 21, 2022, 05:45:08 AM

Quote from: zuzie on March 21, 2022, 03:25:39 AM

Actually Benzema is not the main problem because there are other players who usually score like Vinicius and Modric
Barcelona usually isn't that great can be seen from their last few matches but as I said before luck is not on Madrid side
The result could be different in the next el clasico who knows luck is not the same in every season.

why do you say Barcelona is usually not so great in the last few games? if you look at the games that Barca has played, maybe you can see more than 10 of their games without defeat. they are growing very well. Madrid underestimated him too much. it's not by luck. because I don't believe that Barca's 4 goals are luck.
Barca tried very hard to achieve this. and they deserve appreciation.

Barcelona are probably in their best form lately. While, I have observed that Real Madrid hardly win their matches without Benzema, and he didn't play last night. Although they were others good players why would have struggle for Madrid to win the match. But, Barcelona was well prepared, and were able to beat Madrid. Aubameyang performance was quite impressive, he scored 2 goals. I don't they won the game by luck.

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Xavi is not good enough Xavi can't coach Barcelona.
But he has done the job Paris saint Germans couldn't do at Santiago bernabue.
He was in the squad that won them five goals to nothing and still the coach that won four goals to nothing.
Big move for Aubameyang as he has flourished in a short time already here.

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Quote from: Luzin on March 21, 2022, 08:43:55 AM

I think the worst result in the beginning was just a draw, so I wanted Madrid to win. I admit that Barcelona's performance is very different from the beginning of the season. When I look at the game it's almost the same as el clasico the previous season. Barcelona controlled the game and the ball. I was really impressed with Barcelona's midfield they were able to beat madrid's senior midfielders. Aubameyang is also amazing, he proved Arteta wrong to throw it away. He was very productive with Barcelona.

I didn't expect that Real Madrid will loss the match. I thought Madrid will easily win the match, otherwise it will end as a draw in uncertain situation. I had placed a bet on Real Madrid in ‘draw no bet’ option to minimize the chance of lossing my bet. But the result of the game was fully unexpected. Probably no one imagined that Barcelona will win by scoring 4 goals. Xavi is managing the players of Barcelona in the best way.

A disaster performance from Real Madrid at Bernabeu after a surprisingly long time. However, it wouldn't be right to say that the outcome is an accident, but an unexpected though. Real Madrid missed Benzema quite a lot, so they were unable to demonstrate a perfect gameplay against Barcelona. Xavi's Barca were unbeaten in their last 11 games, and the mentor additionally didn't anticipate such huge big margin 4-0 win in El Clasico at the Bernabeu.

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Quote from: Luzin on March 21, 2022, 08:43:55 AM

I think the worst result in the beginning was just a draw, so I wanted Madrid to win. I admit that Barcelona's performance is very different from the beginning of the season. When I look at the game it's almost the same as el clasico the previous season. Barcelona controlled the game and the ball. I was really impressed with Barcelona's midfield they were able to beat madrid's senior midfielders. Aubameyang is also amazing, he proved Arteta wrong to throw it away. He was very productive with Barcelona.

I didn't expect that Real Madrid will loss the match. I thought Madrid will easily win the match, otherwise it will end as a draw in uncertain situation. I had placed a bet on Real Madrid in ‘draw no bet’ option to minimize the chance of lossing my bet. But the result of the game was fully unexpected. Probably no one imagined that Barcelona will win by scoring 4 goals. Xavi is managing the players of Barcelona in the best way.

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Quote from: tyz on March 21, 2022, 09:07:34 AM

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I have no words to say about this. Barcelona just erased Real Madrid in front of their supporters yesterday. They obliterated Real Madrid by a 4-0 result and this was a lot to sink in for Real Madrid. I wonder if they will come back stronger after having a very poor result like this. They should be thankful that they are still in a safe place in the standings. But for Barcelona, I think that they are surely going to leave Sevilla behind before the end of the season. Sevilla have started a really bad form and this will cost them their second position.

I would not have believed the rapid rebirth of Barcelona. A few weeks ago, the question was whether they could even qualify for the Europe League, so badly did they play in parts and now they sweep Real 4-0 from the field. Especially Aubameyang and Dembele are the new important axis of the game that play perfectly together.

Since the arrival of aubameyang to barcelona, as if barcelona had found the missing piece of their game so far, the return of barcelona current performance has amazed many people and even now many of us are starting to favor Barcelona as a candidate to win the european league, besides that, results of the el match classico seems to be proof for us that now we can no longer underestimate barcelona, I think if barcelona can continue to perform well enough like now of course they can get second place at the end of the season.
Honestly, I personally didn't think that Real Madrid, which in their last three matches continued to win big, but actually lost with a score that was quite embarrassing in the El Classico match.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on March 21, 2022, 08:09:51 AM

Xavi hard work During his time as Barcelona coach has paid off, Barcelona has returned to its original form. We will soon see Xavi carves gold ink with the trophy that will be presented to Barcelona during his time as a coach.

Everything can still change and I think yesterday's win over Real Madrid is something very important as Xavi proved to Real Madrid and those who doubted him. Xavi just needs to convince his players that only a win will bring them closer to the title and so far I think he has managed to build a strong mentality for all his players.

Dembele, Torres, Adama, Aubameyang, Gavi, Pedri and a number of other players were quite confident in a game and they all deserved that positive result because of a good team performance. All players can even score goals either by defenders, midfielders or attackers so that none of the current Barcelona players can be underestimated. So, apparently Barcelona managed to answer the doubts of many parties and continued to carve an unbeaten record in 13 consecutive matches in Laliga.

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Quote from: tyz on March 21, 2022, 09:07:34 AM

Quote from: Spack17 on March 21, 2022, 08:55:01 AM

I have no words to say about this. Barcelona just erased Real Madrid in front of their supporters yesterday. They obliterated Real Madrid by a 4-0 result and this was a lot to sink in for Real Madrid. I wonder if they will come back stronger after having a very poor result like this. They should be thankful that they are still in a safe place in the standings. But for Barcelona, I think that they are surely going to leave Sevilla behind before the end of the season. Sevilla have started a really bad form and this will cost them their second position.

I would not have believed the rapid rebirth of Barcelona. A few weeks ago, the question was whether they could even qualify for the Europe League, so badly did they play in parts and now they sweep Real 4-0 from the field. Especially Aubameyang and Dembele are the new important axis of the game that play perfectly together.

This season Barcelona can't compete in the champions league because of their bad luck before but now it's recovered isn't it? Xavi has made a complete comeback with this landslide victory proving that Barcelon will be back competing with the Whites later or next season.
In the European leagues you can still win this trophy, something that will be up for grabs later but I think the biggest candidate to win is Barceloan for the Europa League this season.

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I really placed a bet on both teams to score for the El Clasico and I'm so regretful about it now. Because I would never wait for Real Madrid not to score in this match. And in fact, the most surprising thing was not this. It was Barcelona's destroying Real Madrid fully by 4-0. And they did this in an away match which is still an unbelievable thing for me. Barcelona were performing really good certainly but this was too much from them. As Real Madrid were having a great time in the league, I didn't wait for their first loss after some time to be like this.

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Xavi has really transformed Barcelona for good compare to before. For sometime now the players have not been performing very well which brought the team to be too low. Barcelona players did very excellent in their performance against Real Madrid in yesterday game , the victory of Barcelona was a prove to good performance of Barcelona players.

The result of the El Clasico match yesterday was Barcelona biggest win in El Clasico since 2018. Xavi was the first person to be happiest after his team beat Real Madrid 0-4. In yesterday El Clasico match Barcelona was far superior to the host, Barcelona a beautiful game was able to produce 4 goals, Xavi and his men left the Santiago Bernabeu smiling because they managed to embarrass Real Madrid in a front of their own fans.
Xavi hard work During his time as Barcelona coach has paid off, Barcelona has returned to its original form. We will soon see Xavi carves gold ink with the trophy that will be presented to Barcelona during his time as a coach.

Between 2003-2018, the El Classico was a rivalry between the world's most famous teams. El Classico used to be football at the very highest level, best players in the world playing against each other. Imo there are no superstars to look up to in the El Classico anymore. Gone are the days of Ronaldinho, Ego, Ronaldo, Beckham, Zidane, Messi, Ozil, Iniesta, Owen and those big names one would want to see. What we have today isn't as grand as what it used to be. It's a nostalgia if what it used to be and less about what it is at this time.

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Quote from: Spack17 on March 21, 2022, 08:55:01 AM

I have no words to say about this. Barcelona just erased Real Madrid in front of their supporters yesterday. They obliterated Real Madrid by a 4-0 result and this was a lot to sink in for Real Madrid. I wonder if they will come back stronger after having a very poor result like this. They should be thankful that they are still in a safe place in the standings. But for Barcelona, I think that they are surely going to leave Sevilla behind before the end of the season. Sevilla have started a really bad form and this will cost them their second position.

I would not have believed the rapid rebirth of Barcelona. A few weeks ago, the question was whether they could even qualify for the Europe League, so badly did they play in parts and now they sweep Real 4-0 from the field. Especially Aubameyang and Dembele are the new important axis of the game that play perfectly together.

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Quote from: zuzie on March 21, 2022, 03:06:12 AM

Actually Benzema is not the main problem because there are other players who usually score like Vinicius and Modric
Barcelona usually isn't that great can be seen from their last few matches but as I said before luck is not on Madrid side
The result could be different in the next el clasico who knows luck is not the same in every season.

Well, in my opinion Barcelona deserves to win the match they didn't lose any match in 2022 about 12 last matchs, it's not about luck here mate .loosing 4-0 in their stadium is really hard loss, without karim Benzema may you lose the match but not with 4-0, here we deduce the hard work done by the coach xavi and mindset that he created in players. The most thing that i liked in Barcelona team is that every player do his best to improve him self. Congratulations for Barcelona and hard luck for real Madrid.

Xavi did the hard job and give his best to motivate his players. Since Xavi gave comment on Dembele can be the best player in the world in his position, then he used to give his absolute best and potentially create 9 assists in 12 La Liga games in spite of missing over two months with injury. Dembele and Auba combination could frame dangerous one. That is Xavi's impact, when somebody trusts in you, you do well. That can apply to anything on earth. People need people that puts stock in them to continue onward and succeed. It's the way mentor Xavi uncover their secret abilities.

Xavi Hernandez is no stranger to talent, he was Very talented football player before he retires so person like him won't have problems spotting a talent, dembele is a fine player and skillful and fast,he has a good understanding with Aubameyang even before they played together at Barcelona they were teammates at Dortmund and they form a strong partnership and destroy team at the German busdesliga,was suprise at the outcome of the result because Barcelona dominant A very good team at their own home.

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I have no words to say about this. Barcelona just erased Real Madrid in front of their supporters yesterday. They obliterated Real Madrid by a 4-0 result and this was a lot to sink in for Real Madrid. I wonder if they will come back stronger after having a very poor result like this. They should be thankful that they are still in a safe place in the standings. But for Barcelona, I think that they are surely going to leave Sevilla behind before the end of the season. Sevilla have started a really bad form and this will cost them their second position.

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Quote from: Luzin on March 21, 2022, 08:43:55 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on March 21, 2022, 07:57:02 AM

I'm pretty sure no one predicted that Barcelona will be able to beat Madrid with that score. Barcelona were playing in their top performance, almost no significant mistake made by Barcelona's players while Real Madrid made many mistakes that gave the opportunity to Barcelona to score goals. I did not expect the final score, I did even think that Real Madrid will win the match and both team to score. Although the result do not affect Real Madrid position as they are still leading with 9 points from Sevilla, but the match is one of the most popular match (El Classico) and all result will always be recorded and remembered by both fans.

I think the worst result in the beginning was just a draw, so I wanted Madrid to win. I admit that Barcelona's performance is very different from the beginning of the season. When I look at the game it's almost the same as el clasico the previous season. Barcelona controlled the game and the ball. I was really impressed with Barcelona's midfield they were able to beat madrid's senior midfielders. Aubameyang is also amazing, he proved Arteta wrong to throw it away. He was very productive with Barcelona.

In fact, I feel that almost everyone who bets here expects the same thing because there are definitely a lot of people who bet on Madrid in this match in my opinion.
Barcelona are very good at this. Their midfielders messed up Real Madrid's midfield and back and even if you look there players like Auba, Ferran and even Dembele who the fans are often cursing at are doing well.

But when it comes to Arsenal and Auba it's not about his performance but the discipline he has while there.

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Quote from: Bitinity on March 21, 2022, 07:57:02 AM

I'm pretty sure no one predicted that Barcelona will be able to beat Madrid with that score. Barcelona were playing in their top performance, almost no significant mistake made by Barcelona's players while Real Madrid made many mistakes that gave the opportunity to Barcelona to score goals. I did not expect the final score, I did even think that Real Madrid will win the match and both team to score. Although the result do not affect Real Madrid position as they are still leading with 9 points from Sevilla, but the match is one of the most popular match (El Classico) and all result will always be recorded and remembered by both fans.

I think the worst result in the beginning was just a draw, so I wanted Madrid to win. I admit that Barcelona's performance is very different from the beginning of the season. When I look at the game it's almost the same as el clasico the previous season. Barcelona controlled the game and the ball. I was really impressed with Barcelona's midfield they were able to beat madrid's senior midfielders. Aubameyang is also amazing, he proved Arteta wrong to throw it away. He was very productive with Barcelona.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on March 21, 2022, 06:52:41 AM

It is undeniable here, Benzema is a charismatic player whose position is so necessary for Real Madrid. He is the leader of the club, so naturally when his absence makes all lines of Real Madrid starting from the left and right wing, the back line, everything becomes out of control. Xavi exploits this deficiency, who is good at reading the direction of the opponent's game. And obviously it's made to look like it's going to play as many say Barcelona against a relegation club.

In this match, it looks like Benzema's absence has caused a lot of losses for them, but on the other hand, I don't really understand why Carletto has adopted such a strategy in this match.
They used a 4-1-4-1 formation at the start of the game and towards the end they used a 4-2-4-0 formation by attracting Casimero and Kroos as defensive midfielders and 4 people as central midfielders without an attacker up front.
A very strange formation in my opinion because it is very clear it is very ineffective

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