La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3848.

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Quote from: coderben on January 05, 2022, 02:05:58 PM

Barcelona are losing to some team called Linares in the Copa del Rey right now. Grin

It is a 1/16-finals match and there is no rematch for this one seemingly. I think that Barcelona should care about this tournament too. They are already going on terrible in European tournaments as we see them in the Europa League from now on. And they are newly recovering in the La Liga. At least, they can fight for winning the Copa del Rey title.

The first half of the match has ended and now linares is leading 1-0 over barcelona, if you look at the statistics it is very surprising because barcelona has almost 82% of the ball and is in contrast to linares who is only able to control 18% and barcelona has managed to take a kick as many as 11 but in fact only 1 was on target, I don't know what the current Barcelona players are doing on the field, because their created a lot of experiments but it seems they forgot where the linares goal was in that match.
Btw does anyone know how the linares goal process was created?
Because to be honest, I didn't see the match because no local television channel was broadcasting it in my country.

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Barcelona are losing to some team called Linares in the Copa del Rey right now. Grin

It is a 1/16-finals match and there is no rematch for this one seemingly. I think that Barcelona should care about this tournament too. They are already going on terrible in European tournaments as we see them in the Europa League from now on. And they are newly recovering in the La Liga. At least, they can fight for winning the Copa del Rey title.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on January 05, 2022, 01:07:03 PM

Atletico Madrid is a top club even by European standards - it always scores well in the Champions League and is a very inconvenient club for any opponent. Therefore, I would not say, using the example of Atlético, that an "average" club can win the championship (although it is possible). In Spain, unfortunately, there were no surprises for a long time - the last time Valencia won the championship and that was almost 20 years ago. Even in England in the most competitive league, Leicester can be said to have recently been the champion, beating the top clubs.

Atletico Madrid is a good top club, it cannot be attributed to the middle peasants. Despite the current decline in the team, they are still the reigning champions. Recessions can be on any team, look at Barcelona or Manchester United. These are the giants of world football who are now experiencing a recession, the same is true for Juventus. Atletico has been playing with dignity both in La Liga and in the Champions League for many years, and the fact that now was a bad period is not critical, any team can face this.

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Quote from: judas on January 05, 2022, 01:25:14 PM

It is Barcelona's tradition to play in the Champions League indeed. However, they are down to the Europa League now unfortunately. They don't belong to that tournament for sure. But they are not playing like real Barcelona for now and that is what they deserve for this season. The thing they need to focus on should be to improve their performance at a huge rate and qualify for the Champions League next season. We all hope to see Barcelona bringing their old days back I guess.

there's something interesting about matching things here. Messi's debut in Barcelona in 2004 was when indeed they had just re-entered the UCL after several previous seasons at UEL and indeed after messi moved from Barcelona they also moved back to UEL Cheesy

This is of course very detrimental for Barcelona but indeed it can no longer be done now because they are already at UEL at this time.
on the other hand as you said their current performance should be significantly overhauled, even if they didn't win a single title this season at least they should be able to be in the top 4 that's enough for them to achieve this season

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Quote from: Shasha80 on January 04, 2022, 05:02:59 PM

I am happy that Barcelona and Atletico managed to win, because this victory was very important for both teams. In particular, Atletico really need
a win, to boost the morale of Atletico's players who have suffered from 4 consecutive defeats. Atletico's victory can make Atletico back in the top 4,
but Atletico must be careful because their position is not completely safe. The difference in points with several teams below is not far, so if Atletico
loses another point in the next match, will only make Atletico's position back down. So Atletico have to get back to playing consistently and
I believe Atletico can do that. For Barcelona, I appreciate that by losing a lot of main players and being dominated by young players, they can win
a victory against Mallorca. I hope Barcelona can achieve a positive result again in the next game, because I also want to see Barcelona back in
the top 4 and playing in the Champions League next season, because it is Barcelona's tradition to always play in the Champions League every season.

It is Barcelona's tradition to play in the Champions League indeed. However, they are down to the Europa League now unfortunately. They don't belong to that tournament for sure. But they are not playing like real Barcelona for now and that is what they deserve for this season. The thing they need to focus on should be to improve their performance at a huge rate and qualify for the Champions League next season. We all hope to see Barcelona bringing their old days back I guess.

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Quote from: hd49728 on January 05, 2022, 11:34:13 AM

Sevilla have enough ambition and quality to win in this match. They will want to bet all resources they have to win it. It will help them to reduce the point difference with Real Madrid on the table.

It is a long and challenging race for Sevilla especially if we see their resources are worse than Real Madrid. However it is football and if they don't give up to fight, they can win the competition. We see Deportivo La Coruna, Valencia, Atletico Madrid won La Liga so Sevilla can repeat a same surprising success.

Atletico Madrid is a top club even by European standards - it always scores well in the Champions League and is a very inconvenient club for any opponent. Therefore, I would not say, using the example of Atlético, that an "average" club can win the championship (although it is possible). In Spain, unfortunately, there were no surprises for a long time - the last time Valencia won the championship and that was almost 20 years ago. Even in England in the most competitive league, Leicester can be said to have recently been the champion, beating the top clubs.

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Quote from: hd49728 on January 05, 2022, 11:34:13 AM

It is a long and challenging race for Sevilla especially if we see their resources are worse than Real Madrid. However it is football and if they don't give up to fight, they can win the competition. We see Deportivo La Coruna, Valencia, Atletico Madrid won La Liga so Sevilla can repeat a same surprising success.

Sevilla is only a few points behind RM. They have been very consistent with their performance so far. If you look at the statistics of the movement from some of the previous matches, it is not so profitable. In addition to drawing, also achieving a landslide victory has not been fully obtained. This season should have made a lot of changes to continue to provide a big push to get points above 45.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on January 05, 2022, 11:04:13 AM

I wish Sevilla would win this match. Let's get 3 points. If Sevilla can score 3 points in this match, Sevilla will have only 2 points difference with Real Madrid. And in the 21st match, if Real Madrid loses or draws, at the same time if Sevilla wins. Then their points will be equal to Real Madrid. If Sevilla's target is to win the title, they must win. There is no alternative but to win the match.

Sevilla have enough ambition and quality to win in this match. They will want to bet all resources they have to win it. It will help them to reduce the point difference with Real Madrid on the table.

It is a long and challenging race for Sevilla especially if we see their resources are worse than Real Madrid. However it is football and if they don't give up to fight, they can win the competition. We see Deportivo La Coruna, Valencia, Atletico Madrid won La Liga so Sevilla can repeat a same surprising success.

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Yes, the fact that Barcelona are now playing (and winning) against weak teams, but at the same time scoring a minimum number of goals should be alarming. Against Elche, from which they conceded 2 goals, they were able to score one more goal, but if you take a stronger team (for example, Rayo Vallecano, which they will face after next round) this may not happen.

IMO it seems that the first concern of Xavi is to create and maintain a solid defense in all the lines. They score a goal and then they are focused not to concede one. The attacking but naive style that Barça had, seems to be now in second priority. Besides, scoring has never been a big problem. Having though a solid defensive line has been a problem since the "Messi era" and Xavi knows that.

I did not notice such ideas of Xavi in Barcelona's game, in my opinion he continues to try to bring the club back to Tiki Taka which is undoubtedly a defensive scheme, but very different from classic defensive schemes as it implies control of the ball. In my opinion, this is a failed idea, since this tactic itself is outdated, plus he does not have top-class performers to implement it at the required level.

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Sevilla is definitely stronger than Getafe. There is no doubt about it. But Getafe's boys will be more confident now. If Getafe can somehow score the first goal of the match, it will be difficult for Sevilla to win. However, the funny thing is that the Getafe team has not scored a goal in the last 5 matches against Sevilla. Sevilla won all the matches. I would be happy if Sevilla won. This will reduce their points gap with Real Madrid.

Undeniable, this season sevilla is much stronger than getafe. Entering week 20, sevilla is still safe in 2nd place, only 5 points difference from real madrid who is at the top of the standings. The match Sevilla vs Getafe will increase the collection of sevilla points to 44, clearly sevilla will win easily in this match, because if we look at the statistics, Sevilla performance is much better than Getafe.

In this match I want to see Sevilla get 3 points, because it can heat up the race for the La Liga title this season.
But I don't agree if you say this match will be an easy win for Sevilla, because of the statistics. Yes, statistics can be used as an illustration in the match later, but it cannot guarantee victory.

I wish Sevilla would win this match. Let's get 3 points. If Sevilla can score 3 points in this match, Sevilla will have only 2 points difference with Real Madrid. And in the 21st match, if Real Madrid loses or draws, at the same time if Sevilla wins. Then their points will be equal to Real Madrid. If Sevilla's target is to win the title, they must win. There is no alternative but to win the match.

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Quote from: herurist on January 05, 2022, 09:51:14 AM

Their midfield does need improvement and a little suggestion maybe they should reduce their current number of strikers because there are too many

At the moment Barcelona have 10 strikers. I have doubts about the ability of the striker except for Torres, Fati and Depay. Players like Dembele Coutinho, Braithwaite and De Jong are not suitable for the Barcelona team. Barcelona has only 6 midfielders. They also don’t seem to be very experienced. Barcelona should not put strikers on the bench and give them wages. They have to sell them and add experienced midfielders to the squad.

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Quote from: Sterbens on January 05, 2022, 10:22:37 AM

Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 05, 2022, 07:55:27 AM

Cadiz was played defending with Real Madrid. Sevilla followed a similar approach. They have done very little to attack. But each attack was quite tidy. They played more defensively after scoring goals.

What if Real Madrid deliberately gave victory to Cadiz? maybe for some hope for Cadiz not to sink too much in La Liga. This is pure speculation I have thought so far. In football, this rarely happens, especially in matches that determine the position of Real Madrid. we all know Real Madrid never go without a goal if only for Cadiz club which is really easy for them to beat.

Do you mean there is a setting in the match? Although there is a possibility, but I personally see Real Madrid who were just unlucky in the match so that they got a draw, I think the draw is the result of the hard work done by the Cadiz players, you can see if madrid is so dominant in the game and controlled the match, but otherwise they failed to score due to defense and also the performance of the cadiz goalkeeper was amazing in the match, I think cadiz managed to hold madrid to a draw because the cadiz players managed to close the madrid midfield movement and make cassimero unable to move freely.

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Quote from: hahay on January 05, 2022, 05:35:13 AM

Yes it takes time, I'm just hoping for Barcelona to get back into the top four at the end of the season. It doesn't matter if Xavi takes a lot of time to make Barcelona fully recover because it won't be easy, at least with Xavi can make Barcelona compete in the top four for now and also next season I think that will be enough because I know it will take a long process to get back to his best form and it's not just about money.

I also have the same desire to see Barcelona back into the top 4 in the near future to fight for 1 place in the Champions League next season. I have no doubts about Xavi and his coaching style for Barcelona, but without top players Barcelona could never compete for the title.

Barcelona need some experienced players to do so, but their financial condition is not good enough to make them have to accept the fact that they have to struggle with their youth academy players. But this is just the beginning for Xavi, and he will have more time to spend with Barcelona for longer.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 05, 2022, 07:55:27 AM

Cadiz was played defending with Real Madrid. Sevilla followed a similar approach. They have done very little to attack. But each attack was quite tidy. They played more defensively after scoring goals.

What if Real Madrid deliberately gave victory to Cadiz? maybe for some hope for Cadiz not to sink too much in La Liga. This is pure speculation I have thought so far. In football, this rarely happens, especially in matches that determine the position of Real Madrid. we all know Real Madrid never go without a goal if only for Cadiz club which is really easy for them to beat.

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Quote from: onecall123 on January 05, 2022, 09:07:30 AM

Every necessary step should have been taken by Xavi. Xavi will be able to make Barcelona a competitive package and could step up if necessary, reinforce center back department that is very weak in my opinion. A combination of young talent and senior players with a proper guide can help bring success where it is needed now. The best news coming from Barcelona in a long time is that Daniel Alves has now been registered. He will make his second Barcelona debut today. I can't wait to see him play. This time I'm excited to watch him.

they lack a responsible and leading figure in the game which leaves them confused and disoriented as the majority of them are young players.
Busquets' role as captain is still less influential in mediating their current players and indeed they are very unbalanced in their play when indeed they are faced with important decisions.
Their midfield does need improvement and a little suggestion maybe they should reduce their current number of strikers because there are too many

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I still wouldn't rule out Barcelona placing in the top 4 as things are going a bit well after Xavi came but at the same time, it will be really hard for them to do so. As they already lack the talent.

Yes, they have young talent, but the mixture of senior players to guide these young blood is also needed in order for a team to succeed.

Players like Messi and Suarez left and their attack has lost a huge lot of sharpness. Maybe it will take some time for them to get back in shape and be one of the best in Europe again.

Yes it takes time, I'm just hoping for Barcelona to get back into the top four at the end of the season. It doesn't matter if Xavi takes a lot of time to make Barcelona fully recover because it won't be easy, at least with Xavi can make Barcelona compete in the top four for now and also next season I think that will be enough because I know it will take a long process to get back to his best form and it's not just about money.

Every necessary step should have been taken by Xavi. Xavi will be able to make Barcelona a competitive package and could step up if necessary, reinforce center back department that is very weak in my opinion. A combination of young talent and senior players with a proper guide can help bring success where it is needed now. The best news coming from Barcelona in a long time is that Daniel Alves has now been registered. He will make his second Barcelona debut today. I can't wait to see him play. This time I'm excited to watch him.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on January 05, 2022, 05:10:30 AM

I still don't want to understand how in the hell Cadiz managed to draw with Real Madrid in that match. Cheesy

They didn't do something special actually. They just hoped for Real Madrid to miss all the chances they got. Real Madrid got nearly 40 shots in that game as far as I can remember. Cadiz got lucky then.

I watched the match between Real Madrid and Cadiz. In fact, I would say that Cadiz has won. Because their goal was to share the points by drawing. They have met their goals. In this match, 6 people have played the role of defender of Cadiz. And everyone played great. They thwarted Real Madrid's strong attack. At the same time, it is necessary to thank the goalkeeper Ledesma, if he did not play well, the match could not have been drawn for Cadiz.

Quote from: jakdanyel on January 05, 2022, 05:10:30 AM

But Sevilla didn't let it happen again. They scored and defended Cadiz really well. It was a deserved win.

Cadiz was played defending with Real Madrid. Sevilla followed a similar approach. They have done very little to attack. But each attack was quite tidy. They played more defensively after scoring goals.

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I don't think Barcelona can enter the top 4 this January because they lack veteran players like City have Bernardo Silva Chelsea have Thiago Silva Liverpool have Salah Van Dijk United have Ronaldo You can't finish top 4 with Youngsters without having veteran players. I miss the Barca from the 2000s and early 2010s, I feel so unhappy watching them the last 4 years, i know Rijkaard had his issues as a coach but the Barca teams from the 2000s were so fun to watch with Ronaldinho, Eto’o, Deco, Puyol, Valdes, Marquez, Larsson, Van Bronckhorst, young Iniesta, young Messi, truly fun, and then the Guardiola era was absolutely prefect football, that’s peak Barca and was a joy to watch.

Barcelona lost too many players due to injury so this team appeared unstable throughout the season. Xavi has had a positive impact on Barcelona's game, I find the game much more pleasing to the eye, but without a lot of top players I don't think they are Barcelona's first team. But if you are a Barcelona supporter then you should not be pessimistic about them because you can expect something good for your team.
Here are some Barcelona match in January especially in Laliga:
Granada vs Barcelona
Barcelona vs Rayo Vallecano
Alaves vs Barcelona
I just hope Barcelona will win all three match if it's not postponed. Barcelona's victory would have been possible, but in the last match Barcelona still had a problem with the goalscorer.

The most important thing is that Barcelona still has a very big chance to be in the top 4 at the end of the season, not just about in January. Also, the only team that is very likely to be knocked out of the top 4 is Betis, we also saw yesterday Betis lost at home by Celta Vigo. The defeat at least gives a rating, that to maintain the top position will not be easy but a team that has a winning mentality like Barcelona is very likely to rise and defend it.

I still wouldn't rule out Barcelona placing in the top 4 as things are going a bit well after Xavi came but at the same time, it will be really hard for them to do so. As they already lack the talent.

Yes, they have young talent, but the mixture of senior players to guide these young blood is also needed in order for a team to succeed.

Players like Messi and Suarez left and their attack has lost a huge lot of sharpness. Maybe it will take some time for them to get back in shape and be one of the best in Europe again.

Yes it takes time, I'm just hoping for Barcelona to get back into the top four at the end of the season. It doesn't matter if Xavi takes a lot of time to make Barcelona fully recover because it won't be easy, at least with Xavi can make Barcelona compete in the top four for now and also next season I think that will be enough because I know it will take a long process to get back to his best form and it's not just about money.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 04, 2022, 04:58:10 AM

Sevilla wants to score full points. I have seldom seen a tendency for them to score more goals. Also Cadiz is probably at the bottom of the points table. Even then, I would not call this team weak. They drew the match against Real Madrid. Their goal was also to draw against Sevilla. If Cadiz had scored a goal they would have drawn the match 1-1 by any means. Civil experienced team. Even if they win only 1-0, I would say they played well.

I still don't want to understand how in the hell Cadiz managed to draw with Real Madrid in that match. Cheesy

They didn't do something special actually. They just hoped for Real Madrid to miss all the chances they got. Real Madrid got nearly 40 shots in that game as far as I can remember. Cadiz got lucky then. But Sevilla didn't let it happen again. They scored and defended Cadiz really well. It was a deserved win.

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Sevilla is definitely stronger than Getafe. There is no doubt about it. But Getafe's boys will be more confident now. If Getafe can somehow score the first goal of the match, it will be difficult for Sevilla to win. However, the funny thing is that the Getafe team has not scored a goal in the last 5 matches against Sevilla. Sevilla won all the matches. I would be happy if Sevilla won. This will reduce their points gap with Real Madrid.

Undeniable, this season sevilla is much stronger than getafe. Entering week 20, sevilla is still safe in 2nd place, only 5 points difference from real madrid who is at the top of the standings. The match Sevilla vs Getafe will increase the collection of sevilla points to 44, clearly sevilla will win easily in this match, because if we look at the statistics, Sevilla performance is much better than Getafe.

In this match I want to see Sevilla get 3 points, because it can heat up the race for the La Liga title this season.
But I don't agree if you say this match will be an easy win for Sevilla, because of the statistics. Yes, statistics can be used as an illustration in the match later, but it cannot guarantee victory.

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