La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3988.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on December 07, 2021, 02:06:10 PM

Quote from: OcTradism on December 06, 2021, 09:49:14 AM

Pep succeeded in Barcelona but he did not stay in the club for too long. I don't expect Xavi to get success like Pep because Barcelona now is in worse condition than under Pep management with a golden team.

Barcelona could have started but at the last minute, they just got overwhelmed when the opponent was getting hotter and pushing to keep them locked up. Like the defeat to Betis, doesn't it look like Barcelona's game is declining and Betis' performance is being used to steal points. Finally, only 1 point Xavi can not change the course of the game. Simply staying in the top 10 for the start of Barcelona's revival is good enough. But to chase first place in the La Liga standings will be very difficult. Real Madrid, Sevilla who are superior in terms of attack in front of goal and defense at the back that are difficult for their opponents to penetrate.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on December 07, 2021, 02:06:10 PM

Quote from: OcTradism on December 06, 2021, 09:49:14 AM

Pep succeeded in Barcelona but he did not stay in the club for too long. I don't expect Xavi to get success like Pep because Barcelona now is in worse condition than under Pep management with a golden team.

Barcelona could have started but at the last minute, they just got overwhelmed when the opponent was getting hotter and pushing to keep them locked up. Like the defeat to Betis, doesn't it look like Barcelona's game is declining and Betis' performance is being used to steal points. Finally, only 1 point Xavi can not change the course of the game. Simply staying in the top 10 for the start of Barcelona's revival is good enough. But to chase first place in the La Liga standings will be very difficult. Real Madrid, Sevilla who are superior in terms of attack in front of goal and defense at the back that are difficult for their opponents to penetrate.

I think we are just been too selfish with our predictions and the very reason we get trapped in our bet slips. Xavi needs sometime to work on his team and besides Betis weren't playing to lose against Barcelona. Both team gave in their best. Barcelona should be tolerated this season while we expect more improvement as the progress.

The leagues top table is too competitive no team will maintain the top for too long not even real Madrid nor sevilla

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Quote from: OcTradism on December 06, 2021, 09:49:14 AM

Pep succeeded in Barcelona but he did not stay in the club for too long. I don't expect Xavi to get success like Pep because Barcelona now is in worse condition than under Pep management with a golden team.

Barcelona could have started but at the last minute, they just got overwhelmed when the opponent was getting hotter and pushing to keep them locked up. Like the defeat to Betis, doesn't it look like Barcelona's game is declining and Betis' performance is being used to steal points. Finally, only 1 point Xavi can not change the course of the game. Simply staying in the top 10 for the start of Barcelona's revival is good enough. But to chase first place in the La Liga standings will be very difficult. Real Madrid, Sevilla who are superior in terms of attack in front of goal and defense at the back that are difficult for their opponents to penetrate.

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Quote from: kassex on December 04, 2021, 10:56:24 AM

This season, Barcelona will have a better focus on LaLiga and the Spanish Cup, both of which are more likely to win than the Champions League. There will remain more energy and time to train and learn Xavi's tactics better, although Xavi has not brought anything new to the game so far. Maybe over time the game will become more interesting and high quality.

Spanish cup is nothing for them. They should focus on La Liga and aim at top 4 because with a position in top 4, they can join Champions League next season. That will help them to earn income from matches and television rights.

In Champions League, it is not a competition they can win so they can simply enjoy it. It is good if they can go far in Champions League and get more money but it is not good if they separate their resources and lose a task to end in top 4 of La Liga.

The Spanish Cup is a trophy that Barcelona needs a victory at the moment to strengthen their spirit. Especially a trophy for young players. In the Champions League Barcelona cannot go beyond the 1/8 finals. The composition is too weak for this level. The main goal is to get into the top 4 to participate in the Champions League next season and to attract strong players.

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Quote from: MAAManda on December 07, 2021, 11:23:20 AM

It looks like it will be difficult for Sevilla to win their match against Barcelona, judging by the history of the matches between them. But even so, we see that this season, Barcelona has experienced a decline in performance, they are currently in 7th place (below Rayo Vallecano) with 23 points.

Real Madrid is firmly at the top of the table, but we must remember that this season's matches have not even passed half, there are still many opportunities for the teams who are in the top 6 standings to catch Real Madrid.

H2H probably won't help much in terms of matches at the moment as seasons are constantly changing and team conditions are not always the same. Barcelona haven't been able to improve their performance so far even though Xavi was brought in to solve this problem. So they haven't been strong enough this season and I think we just can't be 100% with them this season. But maybe Xavi has big plans for his team in that game, so there is still a chance that they will win.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 07, 2021, 11:22:48 AM

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Yes, Atletico has surprised many football fans this season - it was expected that Greenzman + Suarez will be a killer combination for opponents, but in fact Atletico is playing worse offensively than last season. I'm starting to think that Simeone is a "coach of the same game scheme" who is obviously unable to combine tactics depending on the team's lineup.
I would like to see him as coach for example Barcelona Grin

Simeone is an old school wolf, he always played in defense, on counter attacks. Moreover, when a stronger team is playing against him, it could work in the best way. Therefore, he simply puts the players in his scheme, his brains do not work so that he can build a line-up based on players.

This is the case when, when there is his opinion - and erroneous, but last season he brought Atletico to the championship, and this is not a small merit in La Liga.

Precisely Atletico need a new coach who is younger and charismatic. Maybe younger than the old wolf you said. Seeing the development of Atletico it is increasingly difficult to find the ideal position. Griezmann is also not at a disadvantage after he made many passes that did not result in a goal for Suarez. Some did say they agreed that Simeone's tenure should end at the end of this season.

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Quote from: MAAManda on December 07, 2021, 11:23:20 AM

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After the games at the last weekend, Real Madrid are eight points ahead of Sevilla now in the table. However, Sevilla have a missing game so they can close this gap a little more if they win the missing one. But if I'm not wrong, the missing game was against Barcelona. Therefore, it can be really tough for Sevilla. Whether they win it or not, Real Madrid seem very determined to win the title this season.

It looks like it will be difficult for Sevilla to win their match against Barcelona, judging by the history of the matches between them. But even so, we see that this season, Barcelona has experienced a decline in performance, they are currently in 7th place (below Rayo Vallecano) with 23 points.

Real Madrid is firmly at the top of the table, but we must remember that this season's matches have not even passed half, there are still many opportunities for the teams who are in the top 6 standings to catch Real Madrid.

Atlético Madrid also have a game to lose but this match will be won on 22/12 later, it is quite possible that Barcelona, Sevilla and Atletico will experience the same thing regardless of their opponents being quite difficult, but I think Sevilla can defend it and benefit because Barcelona's current performance is declining, but in the hands of Xavi Barca is not as bad as what was handled by Ronald Koeman.
But I'm sure that Real Madrid's steadfastness can make it a champion.

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 07, 2021, 10:19:29 AM

After the games at the last weekend, Real Madrid are eight points ahead of Sevilla now in the table. However, Sevilla have a missing game so they can close this gap a little more if they win the missing one. But if I'm not wrong, the missing game was against Barcelona. Therefore, it can be really tough for Sevilla. Whether they win it or not, Real Madrid seem very determined to win the title this season.

It looks like it will be difficult for Sevilla to win their match against Barcelona, judging by the history of the matches between them. But even so, we see that this season, Barcelona has experienced a decline in performance, they are currently in 7th place (below Rayo Vallecano) with 23 points.

Real Madrid is firmly at the top of the table, but we must remember that this season's matches have not even passed half, there are still many opportunities for the teams who are in the top 6 standings to catch Real Madrid.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 07, 2021, 10:33:54 AM

Yes, Atletico has surprised many football fans this season - it was expected that Greenzman + Suarez will be a killer combination for opponents, but in fact Atletico is playing worse offensively than last season. I'm starting to think that Simeone is a "coach of the same game scheme" who is obviously unable to combine tactics depending on the team's lineup.
I would like to see him as coach for example Barcelona Grin

Simeone is an old school wolf, he always played in defense, on counter attacks. Moreover, when a stronger team is playing against him, it could work in the best way. Therefore, he simply puts the players in his scheme, his brains do not work so that he can build a line-up based on players.

This is the case when, when there is his opinion - and erroneous, but last season he brought Atletico to the championship, and this is not a small merit in La Liga.

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 07, 2021, 10:19:29 AM

After the games at the last weekend, Real Madrid are eight points ahead of Sevilla now in the table. However, Sevilla have a missing game so they can close this gap a little more if they win the missing one. But if I'm not wrong, the missing game was against Barcelona. Therefore, it can be really tough for Sevilla. Whether they win it or not, Real Madrid seem very determined to win the title this season.

For me so far, Seville is definitely the favorite even though it's facing Barcelona. Meanwhile, stealing more points from Bilbao is a fairly smooth strategy to continue to maintain Sevilla's position in the 2nd place standings. Because points that are quite far from RM Sevilla will only stay behind them. and distanced himself from Betis first which is only 1 point difference.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 06, 2021, 08:31:15 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on December 06, 2021, 04:51:46 AM

Do you think the game will end 0-0? In my opinion Real Madrid should score a couple of goals, but I'm not at all sure that Atletico will be able to score the same - in the last games they have been playing terribly. I think that the odds from the bookmakers accurately reflect the situation at the moment, but I tend to bet on the victory of Real:‍
2,17 - 3,45 - 3,45

I agree that Atletico is bad this season compared to last season, in the last games they have had difficulties to win the games, so I'm more inclined to bet on the victory of Real Madrid
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Yes, Atletico has surprised many football fans this season - it was expected that Greenzman + Suarez will be a killer combination for opponents, but in fact Atletico is playing worse offensively than last season. I'm starting to think that Simeone is a "coach of the same game scheme" who is obviously unable to combine tactics depending on the team's lineup.
I would like to see him as coach for example Barcelona Grin

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After the games at the last weekend, Real Madrid are eight points ahead of Sevilla now in the table. However, Sevilla have a missing game so they can close this gap a little more if they win the missing one. But if I'm not wrong, the missing game was against Barcelona. Therefore, it can be really tough for Sevilla. Whether they win it or not, Real Madrid seem very determined to win the title this season.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 07, 2021, 09:58:10 AM

Currently barcelona has only played 15 games, while Real Sociedad and Rayo have played 16 matches, meaning that Barcelona can still catch up with a points deficit from Rayo. Xavi can't make mistakes again in the next match, Barcelona must be able to improve the ranking of the standings. Finishing in the top 4 is mandatory, xavi must be able to prove to management the trust that has been placed in him.

Xavi must be willing to accept the selection of players resulting from Koeman's decision. He had to fight extra hard to restore the glory of Barcelona. If you look at the beginning of this reason, manaemen should not have much to ask Xavi, because mistakes do not happen to him. Management should understand that all these problems started from the financial crisis and everything was handled by the management of a bad club. They have to accept this situation, or will they improve in the transfer season? Looks like they need a new player.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on December 06, 2021, 08:52:58 AM

I wouldn't blame Barcelona for his full performance. It's just about Barcelona's quality. They've been able to reach just 7th position which is good. It's just not optimal. Because when compared to their previous performance, now they have improved. Maybe because they lost to Betis alone, they had no chance of getting into the top 5. There are Real Sociedad and Rayo who dominate more points than Barcelona.

Currently barcelona has only played 15 games, while Real Sociedad and Rayo have played 16 matches, meaning that Barcelona can still catch up with a points deficit from Rayo. Xavi can't make mistakes again in the next match, Barcelona must be able to improve the ranking of the standings. Finishing in the top 4 is mandatory, xavi must be able to prove to management the trust that has been placed in him.
They (Barcelona) have to throw away their dream of reaching the UCL final, so that they can focus more on Local Competitions which can lead Barcelona to compete in the UCL next season.

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I said that it was one of the big opportunities for Real Madrid against Real Sociedad to prove that they are worthy of the championship this season. And they really proved it by finishing Real Sociedad by 2-0 in an away game. And Real Sociedad weren't able to have even one shot on target which was really horrible for them. This didn't reflect the real Real Sociedad as they were having a really good season.

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Quote from: sana54210 on December 06, 2021, 04:39:14 PM

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I think it is Xavi who can determine which players are needed by Barcelona, but still the absolute decision lies with the club management in determining whether to buy or not the players proposed by Xavi, with Barcelona current financial condition, I think Barcelona will not be too active to buy players in January, maybe they will only prioritize players who may act as strikers to replace messi.
Currently barcelona is in a transitional position and of course they need time to be able to restore their former glory again.

In barcelona's case it is even worse, management decides on who will leave very harshly. Everyone acted like it was financially responsible and a forced situation to send Messi and not sign him again but it was clear 100% that they could have send other players. Messi got paid 70 million, drop his salary to 30-40, and in order to pay that extra, just send away griezzman, send busquets, pique and do not get aguero, dembele, sent pjanic already and many other smaller details. This would have kept Messi at the club, they just rather keep the other players that's all.

This results with the consequences of Barcelona becoming worse, and I am 99% sure that they will not let Xavi deal with roster management at all, they will just handle who will leave and who will come and they will give Xavi a team and then ask him to do better. Which he can't, impossible to do that. This whole Barcelona FO needs to go and a decent one needs to replace it.

Barcelona is in a dilemma again to deal with the chaos that occurred in their camp because there are several problems that are increasingly emerging when they start to want to get up from adversity. I will not see this as trivial. However Barcelona should be able to suppress each other more. They need to focus on the UCL and La Liga, which the Barcelona manager should prioritize.

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Quote from: Bilgent on December 06, 2021, 07:50:27 PM

I was completely wrong about the Barcelona v Betis match. I was expecting an absolute win for Barcelona but the opposite happened. The first half was quite balanced but the second half was under control of Barcelona. But still, they missed so many goal chances and this costed them everything. Betis were able to score with Juanmi in the 79th minute and won the match also 1-0. This was a shocking result for Barcelona as they were newly recovering. By the way, Dembele played very selfishly that the team missed many goal chances.

Indeed a bit shocked Barcelona lost at their home but the team still unstable with many of problem inside it especially new coach still cannot get perfect formula to won every games but i believe Xavi can do more for the team because he knows Barcelona character and it's only a matter of time to see Barcelona playing good again however next match will harder against Bayern for away match

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I was completely wrong about the Barcelona v Betis match. I was expecting an absolute win for Barcelona but the opposite happened. The first half was quite balanced but the second half was under control of Barcelona. But still, they missed so many goal chances and this costed them everything. Betis were able to score with Juanmi in the 79th minute and won the match also 1-0. This was a shocking result for Barcelona as they were newly recovering. By the way, Dembele played very selfishly that the team missed many goal chances.

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 04, 2021, 04:56:43 PM

Real Madrid kept the 0-2 and won against Sociedad that showed that they arent capable of attacking the title.Real Madrid got some important points in this match plus both Barcelona and Atletico Madrid lost in their matches and now have 10 more points more then Atletico and 16 over Barcelona

Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 04, 2021, 04:59:03 PM

Real Madrid managed to secure the top position of the standings after beating Real Sociedad 2-0.

Yes exactly, with this result, Real Madrid can really secure the position.
And yeah, this club is a big club and the whole team can really lead the match, they can show us how a team work playing, with or within their top player, they can still do their best. I appreciate how all players in the club struggling. Every player can really give their support and game very well.
And now, we are waiting for the next match, Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid, which is also one of the big clubs in La Liga.
But I personally still bet for Real Madrid.

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Quote from: CDC AP on December 05, 2021, 11:38:43 PM

Yes thats would not be easy but surely they have a chance to defeat atletico madrid. Yes I am not expecting a high scoring match but I am expecting that real madrid will beat atletico madrid with a scoreline of 1-0.

The derby match between Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid is always tight, rarely to have big scores. Atletico Madrid has a strong defense line, it won't be easy to score in that match, especially without Benzema. However, nothing is impossible as long as Real Madrid midfielders and defenders are in a good condition. With Vinicius and Asensio in the attacking line, Real Madrid can have a chance to score. I assume Ancelotti will instruct the players to win the ball possession. So, Atletico players will have a smaller chance to attack.

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The last game of the weekend was Getafe - Athletic Bilbao tonight. And it could be one of the most boring games of the week at the same time too. There was a balanced game in the first half but Getafe started to play more dominant in the other half. But there was still no goal after the final whistle. And after this result, Athletic Bilbao's streak without a win has increased to 7 games. Their condition is really horrifying.

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