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 I think Ramos still has a good physical although he is 35 years old. You shouldn't be too worried about the injury.

In the last season I heard he was injured, it was an important game. If I'm not mistaken at UCL. For his age, he has entered a period of decreasing stamina, so if PSG still intends to buy, I think this is only for 1 season. PSG may be able to find another alternative defender. Because I think Ramos will be retiring soon. So if PSG dare to pay a lot for Ramos it's not good in my opinion. Actually I want him to stay at Madrid and retire there.
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Despite his age, he is in great shape and is a true team leader. I think that in Serie A he will not be able to adapt, this is a different football. And China or the United States is just a race for money, does it need for him? I think he already has a good financial condition. Therefore, it would be correct to spend the rest of his career in Real Madrid and continue to remain on the board of the club.
Great defender like Ramos can play in any league. In his age now, he can get troubles with Premier League but he might play very well in other leagues: Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue I, at top clubs.

Old players like Ramos need to be used appropriately. If coaches use them appropriately, they can play well. If coaches over-use them, they will not be able to have good strength and will bring bad performances.

Many legendary players in Serie A played till the end of their thirties and Ramos can do it too.
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Ramos wants too much to go even as a free agent. For his age, Serie A would be the best option, but hardly anyone can satisfy his requests in Italy. It would be better for him to go to China or the USA.
Despite his age, he is in great shape and is a true team leader. I think that in Serie A he will not be able to adapt, this is a different football. And China or the United States is just a race for money, does it need for him? I think he already has a good financial condition. Therefore, it would be correct to spend the rest of his career in Real Madrid and continue to remain on the board of the club.
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The problems of Real Madrid is not from Zidane. Their squad are old and their younger players have yet matured enough to take over responsibility from Ramos, Modric, Kroos, Benzema. Zidane won't help them much if he stays in Bernabeu and he left because conflict with transfer plans from Perez.

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So this is what made Zidane leave Madrid immediately. Although until now I have not heard where he will be. I guess the oddity of last season that madrid wasn't even active in player purchases. In fact, if we look at them, they really need new players. Even today I didn't hear a lot of rumors of a transfer made by Madrid. If they really don't have a transfer they will have to forgo the title for next season.
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He can be one of the favorite players in PSG, so it is probably to support the increase in club shirts, especially for his jersey.
I am sure about this, it looks very possible to happen in my view.

Yes, everyone's opinion is different. I respect you, but maybe we don't agree on Ramos. As for the jersey, maybe I would have bought a Neymar shirt or an mbappe shirt if I was a PSG fan. Although I know they have their own views.  Cheesy

Why you are very afraid about this? I think Ramos still has a good physical although he is 35 years old. You shouldn't be too worried about the injury.


Then for injuries, maybe it will be a bit of a warning, in March, April and May he was injured and out for quite a while. I'm not worried about that, just my opinion. So you certainly know that the older you get, the less your body's endurance and strength will decrease.
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Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.
Lyon help Depay to keep his career alive. Depay left Manchester United and Lyon gave him their belief as well as a position in a team and Depay does not make Lyon disappointed.

I am surprised to see Lyon let Depay go with a free transfer. It sounds very weird because they can sell Depay one or 2 seasons ago with good cost. Depay has a very important position in Netherlands and Koeman built the squad around Depay. He scored many great goals for Netherlands and brought them to this Euro.

Griezman should go. 2 seasons are enough for him to find a good position in Barcelona but he can't.

I also was very surprised to see Lyon letting him go on a free transfer. Depay was one of their most valuable and important players. Maybe there was some kind of an in-team problem and he didn't want to extend his contract. Or maybe he wanted to go to a better team than Lyon. In the end, he can achieve better things at Barcelona rather than Lyon.

When it comes to Griezmann, I think that he was much better while he was playing at Atletico Madrid. I'd like to see him there again playing beside Luis Suarez. They'd be much more powerful.

There were a lot of problems between the Barcelona team this season. The team coach was new. It takes a lot of time for a coach to adjust to the players. It takes time to adapt to players with new coaches and new strategies. Koeman has solved his team's internal problems. And including players in the team needed to strengthen the team. Hopefully next season Barcelona will have a more stable performance.
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Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.
Lyon help Depay to keep his career alive. Depay left Manchester United and Lyon gave him their belief as well as a position in a team and Depay does not make Lyon disappointed.

I am surprised to see Lyon let Depay go with a free transfer. It sounds very weird because they can sell Depay one or 2 seasons ago with good cost. Depay has a very important position in Netherlands and Koeman built the squad around Depay. He scored many great goals for Netherlands and brought them to this Euro.

Griezman should go. 2 seasons are enough for him to find a good position in Barcelona but he can't.

I also was very surprised to see Lyon letting him go on a free transfer. Depay was one of their most valuable and important players. Maybe there was some kind of an in-team problem and he didn't want to extend his contract. Or maybe he wanted to go to a better team than Lyon. In the end, he can achieve better things at Barcelona rather than Lyon.

When it comes to Griezmann, I think that he was much better while he was playing at Atletico Madrid. I'd like to see him there again playing beside Luis Suarez. They'd be much more powerful.
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I'm not so sure about the increase in sales of club shirts.
Do you forget that you stated he has a big name?
He can be one of the favorite players in PSG, so it is probably to support the increase in club shirts, especially for his jersey.
I am sure about this, it looks very possible to happen in my view.

Last time with Madrid, at the end of the season I heard he was injured twice
It was in the last season, I didn't hear he is injured again right now. If you are a Madrid fan, you must know he rarely got injured. Every player also has the chance to get injured, why you are very afraid about this? I think Ramos still has a good physical although he is 35 years old. You shouldn't be too worried about the injury.


PSG are reportedly interested in recruiting Ramos next season, even though Ramos is 35 years old, his experience and toughness in guarding the defense has been very proven, and of course this will be very useful for PSG next season, but the problem now is his height Ramos salary request to PSG, and according to some reports if Ramos wants a salary of 12 million Euros per year and of course it makes PSG think again about signing Ramos.

actually Ramos has a long history of injury and even in the 2020/21 season Ramos has been injured 7 times and maybe this is a consideration for PSG to reject Ramos request for a high salary.

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I'm not so sure about the increase in sales of club shirts.
Do you forget that you stated he has a big name?
He can be one of the favorite players in PSG, so it is probably to support the increase in club shirts, especially for his jersey.
I am sure about this, it looks very possible to happen in my view.

Last time with Madrid, at the end of the season I heard he was injured twice
It was in the last season, I didn't hear he is injured again right now. If you are a Madrid fan, you must know he rarely got injured. Every player also has the chance to get injured, why you are very afraid about this? I think Ramos still has a good physical although he is 35 years old. You shouldn't be too worried about the injury.

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Ramos wants too much to go even as a free agent. For his age, Serie A would be the best option, but hardly anyone can satisfy his requests in Italy. It would be better for him to go to China or the USA.
Let's not forget Qatar as well, they pay waaaay too much for him to play, they got so many players at their late stages because they were capable of paying insane amount of money and I would assume that they could do that with Ramos as well. Let's be honest with each other, defensive players do not worth the money as much as the other parts in the football world, I would say a good defensive team worths a ton but for some reason a great striker could get paid a ton of money while even a better defender won't, no idea why.

Look at all the transfers and see how much teams pay for a goalkeeper or a defender, then look at how much they pay for an offensive player, usually there is a staggering difference. Which is why I believe Ramos may not end up finding any team at all that would pay what he wants, but he could eventually go to the one that pays the most.
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I think he's useless in the long run. Maybe in 1 or 2 years he will retire from football. Although I think paying him too much it would be a waste. He does have experience, is well trained and has a big name.
Sergio Ramos is still playing at the top level, he can play 2-3 years more. Does it useless? How can? You admit he has experiences and a big name, isn't it something beneficial for the team? He can share his experience with others while helping the team to have a strong defence. Also, the big name will contribute to add the income from the merchandise. It is strange if you claim spending money for him will be useless.

Investing in younger players I think is better even though he doesn't have much experience.
If the next season PSG wants to compete for the UCL title, PSG needs experienced and strong defenders. Buying younger defenders without much experience won't add anything to the team. Not every new player must be for a long run, sometimes we need to sign a proper player for a certain purpose although he isn't young anymore.


Ramos wants too much to go even as a free agent. For his age, Serie A would be the best option, but hardly anyone can satisfy his requests in Italy. It would be better for him to go to China or the USA.
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Also, the big name will contribute to add the income from the merchandise. It is strange if you claim spending money for him will be useless.

I'm not so sure about the increase in sales of club shirts. Likewise with the problem of age he is 35 years old he will slow down. Last time with Madrid, at the end of the season I heard he was injured twice. If there he is not fit it will be useless, if PSG get a cheap price according to his age and performance then it might be better for PSG.
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Koeman knows it but he needs time and transfer budget.

Everything does take a long time to get better, just like Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool. He (Jurgen Klopp) did not immediately become a title winner at that time, he needed time to adapt.

I'm sure Barcelona in the hands of Ronald Koeman will be even better.

This season Barcelona was a team that was completely devastated. They had no continuity in the performance. They have won against the strongest team, they have lost points against the weaker opponents in the next match. Hopefully next season Barcelona will be more stronger and stable.

I think it's good enough for Barcelona to be in 3rd place this season, considering that they always fail to keep their points.

As it is common to fail against weak teams, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid also do the same.

It's just that Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid are luckier Cheesy
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Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.
Lyon help Depay to keep his career alive. Depay left Manchester United and Lyon gave him their belief as well as a position in a team and Depay does not make Lyon disappointed.

I am surprised to see Lyon let Depay go with a free transfer. It sounds very weird because they can sell Depay one or 2 seasons ago with good cost. Depay has a very important position in Netherlands and Koeman built the squad around Depay. He scored many great goals for Netherlands and brought them to this Euro.

Griezman should go. 2 seasons are enough for him to find a good position in Barcelona but he can't.
Lyon give second chance for Depay wake up again after not get good performance in Manchester Unite, but Lyon failed to get much money from  Barcelona after Depay left Lyon with free transfer, last year they have great chance to sell Depay with good price after interesting by Barcelona but Lyon want to get more money until Barcelona waiting for Depay's contract end on Lyon and get by free.
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Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.
Lyon help Depay to keep his career alive. Depay left Manchester United and Lyon gave him their belief as well as a position in a team and Depay does not make Lyon disappointed.

I am surprised to see Lyon let Depay go with a free transfer. It sounds very weird because they can sell Depay one or 2 seasons ago with good cost. Depay has a very important position in Netherlands and Koeman built the squad around Depay. He scored many great goals for Netherlands and brought them to this Euro.

Griezman should go. 2 seasons are enough for him to find a good position in Barcelona but he can't.
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PSG can have 2 strong center backs if Sergio Ramos joins. With Ramos and Marquinhos, I believe PSG will have a better defense.
But remember Ramos is getting old. I think he's useless in the long run. Maybe in 1 or 2 years he will retire from football. Although I think paying him too much it would be a waste. He does have experience, is well trained and has a big name. So wherever he's going he probably won't be as long as his time at Madrid. Investing in younger players I think is better even though he doesn't have much experience.
The most important thing is that Ramos gives results in the coming years and Paris Saint-Germain will have this in mind if they sign a contract with Ramos, especially since the club does not need to pay for a transfer and the player comes to the club as a free agent. Investing in young players is a good thing, but it takes time and implies some risk of not getting results later, so big clubs are engaged in buying players who have already formed at a high level, even if it is expensive. At least, Ramos seems to have told some of his former teammates that he is moving to PSG.
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I think he's useless in the long run. Maybe in 1 or 2 years he will retire from football. Although I think paying him too much it would be a waste. He does have experience, is well trained and has a big name.
Sergio Ramos is still playing at the top level, he can play 2-3 years more. Does it useless? How can? You admit he has experiences and a big name, isn't it something beneficial for the team? He can share his experience with others while helping the team to have a strong defence. Also, the big name will contribute to add the income from the merchandise. It is strange if you claim spending money for him will be useless.

Investing in younger players I think is better even though he doesn't have much experience.
If the next season PSG wants to compete for the UCL title, PSG needs experienced and strong defenders. Buying younger defenders without much experience won't add anything to the team. Not every new player must be for a long run, sometimes we need to sign a proper player for a certain purpose although he isn't young anymore.

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Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.
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I wish I could say my team was looking to revive their fortunes by putting down some good money in investing youth, I mean yeah we have Braithwaite but he hardly gets a run out and then Dembele (not so young) keeps injuring himself, now out after EURO and to miss our preseason.

Aguero yeah, but Depay is almost at peak, also agree, not to say it's young, but to build a solid center for the next 5 years. Hope Koeman knows what he's doing seriously.
It is really not a bad team neither, it is not young but it is not "old" to say neither, and they have very good players. Let me say that they need a lot more "very high end" players, players that worth 150+ million, or at least players that worth 100+ million, many teams at the very top usually have one or even two players at that level, or they have a better system for the ones they have and not the ones they get.

Barcelona has De Jong who is 24 years old as their most valuable player, very young. Aside from Messi they have Pedri at 18, Fati at 18, Dembele at 24, Dest at 20, Lenglet at 26, now Depay at 27. These are all great players as well, but when you look at the starting eleven it is not always them that get the minutes neither, they get as much as they can but not the backbone of the starting eleven. Which is why I feel like they could get better with a decent manager.
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Everything does take a long time to get better, just like Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool.
Yes, it needs a process. Regarding taking a long time or short time, it depends on many factors. Once Koeman came to Barcelona, the squad isn't as strong as in Pep Guardiola era. So, ideally, we cannot expect too much to Koeman winning UCL or La Liga immediately. Some top players in Barcelona like Messi, Pique, and Alba aren't in their top-level performance anymore. While some new players need time to adapt, the same as what Koeman was experiencing. So, it is not so surprising if in the first season Koeman cannot win the title of La Liga or UCL. Yep, it is the same as what Jurgen Klop ever experienced in Liverpool.

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