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This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

Are you sure? I mean they just went for aguero and wijnaldum, they failed to get wijnaldum but got aguero who is 33 years old. They got Depay and he is not old at all but I wouldn't call 27 years old "young" in football, usually players that are 22-23 and under considered young in football, when you are 27 that is like half of your career is already over. They got Royal and he is a young kid, yet he is not really a star level player neither, don't know if he would be even starting eleven. So they got only 2 players one at the half of his career and one is at the near end, I would say they are not going for young players at all.

With the hopes that they would be able to get a good price on some deals, they are going to look for some players after euro 2021 like most other people, I feel like that is going to be the case for many teams so that they could see players and decide afterwards.

Exactly haha. I wish I could say my team was looking to revive their fortunes by putting down some good money in investing youth, I mean yeah we have Braithwaite but he hardly gets a run out and then Dembele (not so young) keeps injuring himself, now out after EURO and to miss our preseason.

Aguero yeah, but Depay is almost at peak, also agree, not to say it's young, but to build a solid center for the next 5 years. Hope Koeman knows what he's doing seriously.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 24, 2021, 06:06:44 PM

In addition, the young defender will be a long-term investment for barca.

Yep, young defenders can have a cheaper price and potentially improves their value in the future. Also, if then they decide to sell again the young defenders, their value is relatively steadily increasing. In this matter, Barcelona can take advantage both for the long term and short term. It is very different if they sign a top defender with age 25 years old above, the price should be more expensive. Also, their value can decrease very extremely if they cannot show their best performance in Barcelona.

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PSG can have 2 strong center backs if Sergio Ramos joins. With Ramos and Marquinhos, I believe PSG will have a better defense.

But remember Ramos is getting old. I think he's useless in the long run. Maybe in 1 or 2 years he will retire from football. Although I think paying him too much it would be a waste. He does have experience, is well trained and has a big name. So wherever he's going he probably won't be as long as his time at Madrid. Investing in younger players I think is better even though he doesn't have much experience.

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I got a rumor that Ramos is going to Club AS Roma I don't know if this is valid or not.

It is still a rumor because as far as I know there is no official statement about it. Instead, I heard another rumor that Ramos decides to go to PSG in the next season. I assume PSG is a better place for Ramos since he should get a bigger salary there and can play regularly. PSG can have 2 strong center backs if Sergio Ramos joins. With Ramos and Marquinhos, I believe PSG will have a better defense.

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Quote from: mv1986 on June 24, 2021, 01:50:44 PM

In addition, the young defender will be a long-term investment for barca. Although in the current list of players there are only 2 names that I consider quite old, Pique and Alba. They must immediately find a replacement, this is useful for the regeneration of the old barca players. Just like Lionel Messi who will get old so management must find a new star soon.

This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

Are you sure? I mean they just went for aguero and wijnaldum, they failed to get wijnaldum but got aguero who is 33 years old. They got Depay and he is not old at all but I wouldn't call 27 years old "young" in football, usually players that are 22-23 and under considered young in football, when you are 27 that is like half of your career is already over. They got Royal and he is a young kid, yet he is not really a star level player neither, don't know if he would be even starting eleven. So they got only 2 players one at the half of his career and one is at the near end, I would say they are not going for young players at all.

With the hopes that they would be able to get a good price on some deals, they are going to look for some players after euro 2021 like most other people, I feel like that is going to be the case for many teams so that they could see players and decide afterwards.

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Quote from: Iranus on June 24, 2021, 11:33:23 AM

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This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

It is a good transfer strategy for the future, because the key players of Barcelona is old. Messi, Busquet and Pique won't have many seasons left in their career. Hence, Barcelona have to prepare their lives without Messi, Busquet, Pique.

Pique and Ramos have touched downside in their career. Ramos already left Real Madrid so how about Pique?

You're right, Koeman is arranging the Barcelona team with the future in mind. It takes a long time for young players to become experienced. Young players will become more skilled and experienced if they get a chance to play with experienced players like Messi, Aguero and Pique. With their help, the future Barcelona team will become stronger.

I don't know how you guys here feel about it but for me Koeman isn't the perfect coach for Barcelona. Every time I see him it feels like he is in the wrong place. He lacks that aura or anything, I am not sure what it is that I dislike about him. His decisions as a head coach so far were quite miserable as well.

I don't think Barcelona will be dominant next year. Those times are pretty much over. Who knows what's going to come next for Barcelona once Messi leaves the club. That's when the biggest era in soccer history will come to an end.

If you look at other big teams trying to build teams with young players, in fact it's not the right way for big teams because in the end these big teams will need more experienced players who already have a selling point. But if Barcelona can accept the risk it may not matter, because as far as I am aware the risk will only make the team even more destroyed because of heavy pressure from many parties. Because usually, young players who are successful must have passed many obstacles such as being loaned to other teams basically to get more playing minutes.

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This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

It is a good transfer strategy for the future, because the key players of Barcelona is old. Messi, Busquet and Pique won't have many seasons left in their career. Hence, Barcelona have to prepare their lives without Messi, Busquet, Pique.

Pique and Ramos have touched downside in their career. Ramos already left Real Madrid so how about Pique?

You're right, Koeman is arranging the Barcelona team with the future in mind. It takes a long time for young players to become experienced. Young players will become more skilled and experienced if they get a chance to play with experienced players like Messi, Aguero and Pique. With their help, the future Barcelona team will become stronger.

I don't know how you guys here feel about it but for me Koeman isn't the perfect coach for Barcelona. Every time I see him it feels like he is in the wrong place. He lacks that aura or anything, I am not sure what it is that I dislike about him. His decisions as a head coach so far were quite miserable as well.

I don't think Barcelona will be dominant next year. Those times are pretty much over. Who knows what's going to come next for Barcelona once Messi leaves the club. That's when the biggest era in soccer history will come to an end.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 24, 2021, 08:29:58 AM

This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

It is a good transfer strategy for the future, because the key players of Barcelona is old. Messi, Busquet and Pique won't have many seasons left in their career. Hence, Barcelona have to prepare their lives without Messi, Busquet, Pique.

Pique and Ramos have touched downside in their career. Ramos already left Real Madrid so how about Pique?

You're right, Koeman is arranging the Barcelona team with the future in mind. It takes a long time for young players to become experienced. Young players will become more skilled and experienced if they get a chance to play with experienced players like Messi, Aguero and Pique. With their help, the future Barcelona team will become stronger.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 24, 2021, 08:29:58 AM

Pique and Ramos have touched downside in their career. Ramos already left Real Madrid so how about Pique?

ramos should have ended his career in real madrid, I doubt that Pique leaves barcelona to finish his career in another club, I also doubt that messi when he leaves barcelona will accept to finish his career in another club because in the case of messi who has a brilliant career, go in another club it could destroy his great reputation if it is in a club where he will not have good results and he also does not contribute much.

I'm still in doubt that real madrid can win anything next season without zidane

Segio Ramos has ended with Real Madrid but I got a rumor that Ramos is going to Club AS Roma I don't know if this is valid or not.

Pique I see in his statement he doesn't want to leave Barcelona even if Koeman let Pique go then he will retire early and will end up at Barcelona forever, maybe his love for the club but it is very sad if Koeman doesn't keep Pique and he still deserves to be defender with better defense.

We'll see if Real Madrid can achieve the title with Ancelotti?

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I'm still in doubt that real madrid can win anything next season without zidane

Real Madrid has not won a title this season. But in La Liga, they played well enough. My guess is that Real Madrid will not be able to win the title next season unless they add new talented players to the squad. They have lost experienced coaches like Zidane. One of the best defenders in the world like Ramos has left Real Madrid. I don't think a replacement for these two is possible so quickly. It will take some time for Real Madrid to stabilize.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 24, 2021, 08:29:58 AM

ramos should have ended his career in real madrid, I doubt that Pique leaves barcelona to finish his career in another club

With the personality of Ramos, he does not want to sacrifice and stay humble with Florentino Perez.

You can be right about Messi but why do you think Pique won't leave Barcelona and will end his career in Barca? Xavi, Iniesta all left Barcelona and ended their career in other clubs, other nations.

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I'm still in doubt that real madrid can win anything next season without zidane

The problems of Real Madrid is not from Zidane. Their squad are old and their younger players have yet matured enough to take over responsibility from Ramos, Modric, Kroos, Benzema. Zidane won't help them much if he stays in Bernabeu and he left because conflict with transfer plans from Perez.

Zidane understands that Real Madrid need a few great transfer to win La Liga and Champions League but Perez rejected.

Zidane: “I leave Real Madrid because the club doesn’t have the faith in me that I need”

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Right now, things are different. I’m leaving because I feel the club no longer has the faith in me I need, nor the support to build something in the medium or long term. I understand football and I know the demands of a club like Real Madrid. I know when you don’t win, you have to leave.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 24, 2021, 08:29:58 AM

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Right, since Messi will be the last player ever to leave Barca ... He is literally imbued with the spirit of Barça as he and his parents radically changed their lifestyle for the sake of this club. And real can easily win the cup in the new season, as it all depends on the case ... Real just needs to be in the top 3 and watch while Barça and Atlético lose points in seemingly easy matches, (so, it is quite possible to do without Zidane).

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Quote from: JeromeTash on June 23, 2021, 03:54:18 PM

Pique and Ramos have touched downside in their career. Ramos already left Real Madrid so how about Pique?

ramos should have ended his career in real madrid, I doubt that Pique leaves barcelona to finish his career in another club, I also doubt that messi when he leaves barcelona will accept to finish his career in another club because in the case of messi who has a brilliant career, go in another club it could destroy his great reputation if it is in a club where he will not have good results and he also does not contribute much.

I'm still in doubt that real madrid can win anything next season without zidane

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Real Madrid has a lot of work to do, including patching up the back line too after the departure of Ramos.

It's hard to imagine that after 15 years of playing, he will end his career at another club, although this is great news for PSG fans ... but maybe this is for the best, since I am almost sure that in a year Mbappe will leave the Paris club in favor of Real, thereby eliminating the moral gap.

By the way, speaking of Real, yesterday was an epic match in which the authors of the goals personified the past and present of Real Madrid, lol.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 24, 2021, 04:54:42 AM

This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

It is a good transfer strategy for the future, because the key players of Barcelona is old. Messi, Busquet and Pique won't have many seasons left in their career. Hence, Barcelona have to prepare their lives without Messi, Busquet, Pique.

Pique and Ramos have touched downside in their career. Ramos already left Real Madrid so how about Pique?

@Iranus currently I can see Barcelona is targeting all free transfers only which shows smart buying and saving on big transfer fees. Furthermore any idea if there’re any young defenders in their academy that could step up, and solve their defensive issues.

They can succeed with it if they choose good free players. Juventus got many players like that and got big success so Barcelona can achieve success from free transfers.

It's questionable that how those free players will adapt to the style in Barcelona. Many good players fail to adapt in recent seasons and I don't think it only comes from their personal problems.

With Depay, who will leave the club, Griezman and Dembele?

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 23, 2021, 06:59:27 PM

They need a strong young defender with good leadership.

In addition, the young defender will be a long-term investment for barca. Although in the current list of players there are only 2 names that I consider quite old, Pique and Alba. They must immediately find a replacement, this is useful for the regeneration of the old barca players. Just like Lionel Messi who will get old so management must find a new star soon.

This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

@Iranus currently I can see Barcelona is targeting all free transfers only which shows smart buying and saving on big transfer fees. Furthermore any idea if there’re any young defenders in their academy that could step up, and solve their defensive issues.

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