La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4218.

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Real Madrid managed to keep the score at 0-0 till the end and they have advanced to the semi final.

They did it, they have a draw result.
I think they have planned to not force their power to score. Zidane probably instructed their players to play effectively. Their target seems just to qualify to the semi-final, without forcing themselves to win again, a draw result is enough. I can conclude it based on the stats of Real Madrid today, it is much different from the first Leg. They didn't play as aggressively as in the first Leg.

Yeah, there wasn't any need for them to show the same level of performance in the first leg. They had already a huge 3-1 score advantage and all they needed to do was maintaining it. And they made it. Liverpool couldn't do much against them so I appreciate Real's huge effort.

Zidane's strategy was right when Madrid didn't play aggressively like in the first leg, because Real Madrid had won on aggregate, for what risky
attacking play will give Liverpool players space to score goals. And like you said Real Madrid managed to keep the aggregate in the second leg
and deserved to qualify for the semi-finals. Then the next in the semi-finals will face Chelsea, in my opinion, the opponent is not too difficult
than Madrid to face Manchester City or PSG.

I'd like to say, don't be so sure about it. Grin

Liverpool have been out-of-form for a very long time and they were not much different in the CL too. But things are not the same for Chelsea now. They've had a very nice form with Tuchel. I believe that they really have the power to make big difficulties for Real Madrid and even eliminate them. So, Real Madrid should really watch out for them.

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The Spanish Cup final between Athletic Club and Barcelona was announced by the Spanish newspaper Marca very bombastically, with the following headline: ''Athletic vs Barcelona: Messi's last final?''
After losing in the Champions League to Paris and after losing to Real in the championship Barcelona in this final simply has to win to save this season.
There is a lot of pressure now on Messi and Barcelona players while Athletic Club players have nothing to lose and much to gain.
I think we can expect a very interesting and uncertain match.

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2021/04/17/607ab096268e3e162b8b45c3.html

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Copa del Rey final later today and Marca's cover is beautiful 🤩

https://www.marca.com/multimedia/primeras/21/04/0417.html

Bilbao's record in league cup finals in the 21st century: 4 games, 4 lossess (3 against FC Barcelona)
on the other hand, Barcelona's record: 9 finals, 7 wins, 2 losses (vs. Real Madrid and Valencia)

guys, who's gonna win tonight??

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Big night for Villareal last night. They had a lot of doubters after the first leg, when all they could do was win with a penalty. And facing up against the team that knocked out Tottenham Hotspur, I guess a lot of people would have said Villareal couldn't go through.

But here there are now in the semis. No way they can beat Arsenal though right?

@slaman29 whenever a team plays with overconfidence and underestimates their opponents they pay a price for it, and kudos to Villareal for playing with confidence and winning this match. Furthermore I see no reason why they can’t beat Arsenal, because Arsenal isn’t a strong team this season so anything can happen.

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https://sportstar.thehindu.com/football/arteta-accepts-full-responsibility-for-arsenals-poor-form/article33337595.ece (Little old article but not much has changed)

Villareal is not doing this great on la lia, how are they doing this great on europa league I will never understand. You are saying that Arsenal is not doing great in premier league, but Villareal is 7th in la liga as well, they are not doing great neither. So, there is really no logic why these teams are so high on europa if you ask me if we look at the leagues.

Basically it will be a match between two teams that are doing not as well as expected in their respective leagues and they have been contrary to that very well on the European games and came as far as semi finals, that is really good, if one of them were better in the league I would say what you said would be correct but unfortunately people are totally ignoring that as a whole. In any case I rather have these close teams and I seriously do not see one of them better than the other, they are definitely %50-50 equals to me.

Even so, Arsenal still have a better chance of progressing to the final. Indeed, if we look at their performance so far this season it is not that good and even if it is calculated from the total matches in each league, at least their winning record is not that different. What makes the difference is about the squads that each of these teams has, at least it has a difference which I think is enough to bring the team to win in the duel later.

Regardless of that result, I'm sure Villarreal can still end this season to lock in the 5th position, maybe be able to shift the position of Real Sociedad and Betis later.

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Quote from: slaman29 on April 16, 2021, 12:56:34 AM

Big night for Villareal last night. They had a lot of doubters after the first leg, when all they could do was win with a penalty. And facing up against the team that knocked out Tottenham Hotspur, I guess a lot of people would have said Villareal couldn't go through.

But here there are now in the semis. No way they can beat Arsenal though right?

@slaman29 whenever a team plays with overconfidence and underestimates their opponents they pay a price for it, and kudos to Villareal for playing with confidence and winning this match. Furthermore I see no reason why they can’t beat Arsenal, because Arsenal isn’t a strong team this season so anything can happen.

Source:

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/football/arteta-accepts-full-responsibility-for-arsenals-poor-form/article33337595.ece (Little old article but not much has changed)

Villareal is not doing this great on la lia, how are they doing this great on europa league I will never understand. You are saying that Arsenal is not doing great in premier league, but Villareal is 7th in la liga as well, they are not doing great neither. So, there is really no logic why these teams are so high on europa if you ask me if we look at the leagues.

Basically it will be a match between two teams that are doing not as well as expected in their respective leagues and they have been contrary to that very well on the European games and came as far as semi finals, that is really good, if one of them were better in the league I would say what you said would be correct but unfortunately people are totally ignoring that as a whole. In any case I rather have these close teams and I seriously do not see one of them better than the other, they are definitely %50-50 equals to me.

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Quote from: slaman29 on April 16, 2021, 12:56:34 AM

Big night for Villareal last night. They had a lot of doubters after the first leg, when all they could do was win with a penalty. And facing up against the team that knocked out Tottenham Hotspur, I guess a lot of people would have said Villareal couldn't go through.

But here there are now in the semis. No way they can beat Arsenal though right?

@slaman29 whenever a team plays with overconfidence and underestimates their opponents they pay a price for it, and kudos to Villareal for playing with confidence and winning this match. Furthermore I see no reason why they can’t beat Arsenal, because Arsenal isn’t a strong team this season so anything can happen.

Source:

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/football/arteta-accepts-full-responsibility-for-arsenals-poor-form/article33337595.ece (Little old article but not much has changed)

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Big night for Villareal last night. They had a lot of doubters after the first leg, when all they could do was win with a penalty. And facing up against the team that knocked out Tottenham Hotspur, I guess a lot of people would have said Villareal couldn't go through.

But here there are now in the semis. No way they can beat Arsenal though right?

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Quote from: bitgolden on April 15, 2021, 11:10:48 AM

Zidane already deserved to be called a legend both as a player and a coach, who wins 3 in a row champions league? That is a marvelous accomplishment. Do not tell me that he had star players, people before him had those star players as well, there has been teams with even better roster, and not every one of them won the champions league let alone win it 3 times in a row.

I had my doubt about Zidane and I was not convinced even he won three Champions League in a row. Nevertheless what he managed and got with Real Madrid in this season changed my thoughts. I am totally impressed with Zidane in this season. He is a talented and strong coach if he is not, he can not help the club keeps the good positions and still fighting for trophies at the end of season.

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If a team is good and achieves something that could be attributed to the players, but if a team does that for 3 years in a row at the biggest stage of the world, you have to say that coach is the best there is at that current time. I still think that if they can manage to somehow get both La Liga and Champions league together this year, that would mean that Zidane would be at the level of Sir Alex Ferguson for me and that would mean he still has a lot of years left to prove he is even better.

You can not compare Zidane with Sir Alex who has a very long management career and huge success. If you want to compare, Pep Guardiola, Jose Mourinho, J Klopp are coaches to do so. Zidane is at top level and in my opinion, it is hard to choose who is the best coach. They have successes and in some seasons, one will be better than the others.

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Real Madrid managed to keep the score at 0-0 till the end and they have advanced to the semi final.

They did it, they have a draw result.
I think they have planned to not force their power to score. Zidane probably instructed their players to play effectively. Their target seems just to qualify to the semi-final, without forcing themselves to win again, a draw result is enough. I can conclude it based on the stats of Real Madrid today, it is much different from the first Leg. They didn't play as aggressively as in the first Leg.

Yeah, there wasn't any need for them to show the same level of performance in the first leg. They had already a huge 3-1 score advantage and all they needed to do was maintaining it. And they made it. Liverpool couldn't do much against them so I appreciate Real's huge effort.

Zidane's strategy was right when Madrid didn't play aggressively like in the first leg, because Real Madrid had won on aggregate, for what risky
attacking play will give Liverpool players space to score goals. And like you said Real Madrid managed to keep the aggregate in the second leg
and deserved to qualify for the semi-finals. Then the next in the semi-finals will face Chelsea, in my opinion, the opponent is not too difficult
than Madrid to face Manchester City or PSG.

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Quote from: skarais on April 15, 2021, 12:45:23 AM

I don't like goalless match like that,

Me, too. But since they still have some remaining matches in La Liga and they will against a harder team in the next stage, they must keep their healthy. I support Zidane if he really instructed the player to play not very offensive. As long as they can qualify to the next stage, it is more than enough for them, no need to do something useless or even risky for the players.

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it's like watching a horror movie.

Well, maybe it is like a horror movie but I think it is a smart and wise strategy. Hala Madrid!! Cool

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on April 14, 2021, 06:24:01 PM

They did it, they have a draw result.
I think they have planned to not force their power to score. Zidane probably instructed their players to play effectively. Their target seems just to qualify to the semi-final, without forcing themselves to win again, a draw result is enough. I can conclude it based on the stats of Real Madrid today, it is much different from the first Leg. They didn't play as aggressively as in the first Leg.

Hala Madrid....! Cool

. They deserve to advance to the semifinals. They are the kings of UCL with 13 titles, 3 of which came with Zidane. Now is the perfect time to recover after a solid match. The closest match is against Getafe. Predictions should Madrid be able to win, despite appearing at Getafe's home. The first meeting, Madrid won 2-0. If Zidane wants to keep his chances of winning the La Liga title then he should choose to win.

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Real Madrid managed to keep the score at 0-0 till the end and they have advanced to the semi final.

They did it, they have a draw result.
I think they have planned to not force their power to score. Zidane probably instructed their players to play effectively. Their target seems just to qualify to the semi-final, without forcing themselves to win again, a draw result is enough. I can conclude it based on the stats of Real Madrid today, it is much different from the first Leg. They didn't play as aggressively as in the first Leg.

Yeah, there wasn't any need for them to show the same level of performance in the first leg. They had already a huge 3-1 score advantage and all they needed to do was maintaining it. And they made it. Liverpool couldn't do much against them so I appreciate Real's huge effort.

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Quote from: hd49728 on April 15, 2021, 02:00:11 AM

Zidane is an attacking player and played beautiful football but as a coach he manages his club with very practical football.

The 3 Champions League in 3 continuous seasons for Real Madrid don't come randomly. The tactic of Zidane contributes a lot and luckiness, moments from super stars help RM won three titles. In recent months, I read many drama that Real Madrid will have another coach and it won't be affected by final results in La Liga or Champions League.

If Zidane got both La Liga and Champions League, and leaves the club, he deserves to be called as ever lasting legendary in Hall of Fame.

Zidane already deserved to be called a legend both as a player and a coach, who wins 3 in a row champions league? That is a marvelous accomplishment. Do not tell me that he had star players, people before him had those star players as well, there has been teams with even better roster, and not every one of them won the champions league let alone win it 3 times in a row.

If a team is good and achieves something that could be attributed to the players, but if a team does that for 3 years in a row at the biggest stage of the world, you have to say that coach is the best there is at that current time. I still think that if they can manage to somehow get both La Liga and Champions league together this year, that would mean that Zidane would be at the level of Sir Alex Ferguson for me and that would mean he still has a lot of years left to prove he is even better.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 15, 2021, 10:19:56 AM

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I think Zidane's goal was, there is no need to score, you have to draw the match in any way and secure the semi-final. And that's what the Real Madrid players did. They didn’t attack too much. Only did 6 shots. Which is very low. Real Madrid will play Chelsea in the semi-finals. I hope to see many goals in the match.

Yes, Real Madrid were quite successful in carrying out their goalless mission if that was true and they secured a ticket to the semifinal. Now Chelsea are the opponent they have to beat if they want to reach the final. In my opinion, Chelsea is a team to watch out for after they also managed to beat Atletico Madrid and Porto. These two team have the same goal which is to play in the final, Real Madrid must have an easier way in the second leg and that mean they have to score a lot of goals in the first leg later.

Real Madrid is a very stable team. And most importantly Madrid has a very experienced coach Zidane. He knows how to sort out the strategy against any team. Hopefully Real Madrid can easily win against Chelsea.

Zidane said Chelsea were a formidable opponent because they could now qualify for the semifinals to meet Real Madrid.
However, in the first leg the two clubs will secure with the goals that get a lot, so of course it will be less safe in the second leg, it will only be able to survive with what is already in the goal so the second leg will determine who will enter the final later.

Zidane is already experienced and he has won various trophies, but Chelsea is also under Tuchel's hands undergoing good changes, meaning that he will be a formidable opponent and cannot be underestimated even though Real Madrid have become champions of defense.

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Quote from: skarais on April 15, 2021, 07:50:39 AM

Quote from: Iranus on April 15, 2021, 01:27:17 AM

I think Zidane's goal was, there is no need to score, you have to draw the match in any way and secure the semi-final. And that's what the Real Madrid players did. They didn’t attack too much. Only did 6 shots. Which is very low. Real Madrid will play Chelsea in the semi-finals. I hope to see many goals in the match.

Yes, Real Madrid were quite successful in carrying out their goalless mission if that was true and they secured a ticket to the semifinal. Now Chelsea are the opponent they have to beat if they want to reach the final. In my opinion, Chelsea is a team to watch out for after they also managed to beat Atletico Madrid and Porto. These two team have the same goal which is to play in the final, Real Madrid must have an easier way in the second leg and that mean they have to score a lot of goals in the first leg later.

Real Madrid is a very stable team. And most importantly Madrid has a very experienced coach Zidane. He knows how to sort out the strategy against any team. Hopefully Real Madrid can easily win against Chelsea.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 15, 2021, 01:27:17 AM

I think Zidane's goal was, there is no need to score, you have to draw the match in any way and secure the semi-final. And that's what the Real Madrid players did. They didn’t attack too much. Only did 6 shots. Which is very low. Real Madrid will play Chelsea in the semi-finals. I hope to see many goals in the match.

Yes, Real Madrid were quite successful in carrying out their goalless mission if that was true and they secured a ticket to the semifinal. Now Chelsea are the opponent they have to beat if they want to reach the final. In my opinion, Chelsea is a team to watch out for after they also managed to beat Atletico Madrid and Porto. These two team have the same goal which is to play in the final, Real Madrid must have an easier way in the second leg and that mean they have to score a lot of goals in the first leg later.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on April 14, 2021, 09:10:57 AM

I have said it before and I'm going to say it again. Real will play a tough game tonight, Liverpool will not qualify it win the match, for sure, Real have goals to score leaving Liverpool helpless.
Despite Real Madrid form this period, they, they won't find it easy to beat Liverpool.

Well it turned out as you said but like we both predicted, it wasn't easy at all. You could see a lot of their players playing through pain and injury. Zidane took some off for those but also for tempers flaring up.

Huge for them and I know they'll be preparing for Chelsea. The weekend will be really important for a lot of teams now in top 3. Getting ready for my big bet:)

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Quote from: Iranus on April 15, 2021, 01:27:17 AM

I think Zidane's goal was, there is no need to score, you have to draw the match in any way and secure the semi-final. And that's what the Real Madrid players did. They didn’t attack too much. Only did 6 shots. Which is very low. Real Madrid will play Chelsea in the semi-finals. I hope to see many goals in the match.

Absolutely correct. Zidane is an attacking player and played beautiful football but as a coach he manages his club with very practical football.

The 3 Champions League in 3 continuous seasons for Real Madrid don't come randomly. The tactic of Zidane contributes a lot and luckiness, moments from super stars help RM won three titles. In recent months, I read many drama that Real Madrid will have another coach and it won't be affected by final results in La Liga or Champions League.

If Zidane got both La Liga and Champions League, and leaves the club, he deserves to be called as ever lasting legendary in Hall of Fame.

I completely agree with you about Zidane. If he managed to reach the Champions League semi-finals with such a squad and a huge number of injured players during the season and still fight for LaLiga, he should already be offered a life contract. And yet I think Zidane will not go anywhere after that season and will coach Real Madrid for a couple of years.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 15, 2021, 01:27:17 AM

I think Zidane's goal was, there is no need to score, you have to draw the match in any way and secure the semi-final. And that's what the Real Madrid players did. They didn’t attack too much. Only did 6 shots. Which is very low. Real Madrid will play Chelsea in the semi-finals. I hope to see many goals in the match.

Absolutely correct. Zidane is an attacking player and played beautiful football but as a coach he manages his club with very practical football.

The 3 Champions League in 3 continuous seasons for Real Madrid don't come randomly. The tactic of Zidane contributes a lot and luckiness, moments from super stars help RM won three titles. In recent months, I read many drama that Real Madrid will have another coach and it won't be affected by final results in La Liga or Champions League.

If Zidane got both La Liga and Champions League, and leaves the club, he deserves to be called as ever lasting legendary in Hall of Fame.

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Quote from: skarais on April 15, 2021, 12:45:23 AM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on April 14, 2021, 06:24:01 PM

They did it, they have a draw result.
I think they have planned to not force their power to score. Zidane probably instructed their players to play effectively. Their target seems just to qualify to the semi-final, without forcing themselves to win again, a draw result is enough. I can conclude it based on the stats of Real Madrid today, it is much different from the first Leg. They didn't play as aggressively as in the first Leg.

It may be true that Zidane didn't push his players too hard to score in this second leg and it may also be true that Real Madrid didn't have many chance. They only had a few shot on goal but no goals. Several Liverpool counter-attack also failed so that the result of 90 minute without a goal was quite boring. I don't like goalless match like that, it's like watching a horror movie. But, congrats to Real Madrid

I think Zidane's goal was, there is no need to score, you have to draw the match in any way and secure the semi-final. And that's what the Real Madrid players did. They didn’t attack too much. Only did 6 shots. Which is very low. Real Madrid will play Chelsea in the semi-finals. I hope to see many goals in the match.

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