La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4592.

efialtis

legendary

Activity: 1750

Merit: 1363

www.gosubetting.com

Quote from: tokeweed on September 22, 2019, 06:28:57 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 22, 2019, 06:18:10 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on September 21, 2019, 05:46:38 PM

Honestly, I doubt that Barca will sack Valverde soon.

Yeah, I think they won't sack him because Messi and the key players in the dressing room really like him.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 22, 2019, 03:19:05 AM

Are they playing badly or is just unluck matches? (sometimes happens they the ball doesn't want to enter for any reason)

This isn't bad luck, Barcelona are actually really fucking bad right now. Yesterday, they had +70% ball possession but only one shot on target even though they have the likes of Suarez, Griezmann, Messi, etc. I posted yesterday that this is the worst start of the league in over 25 years for Barcelona, that's pretty alarming.

Today: Sevilla vs Real Madrid

Some statistics: 9 out of the last 10 games between both teams ended with over 2.5 goals (6 wins Real, 4 wins Sevilla). Last time RM won at the Sanchez Pizjuan was in 2015 (FT 2-3). Sevilla at home this season: 1 draw. Real Madrid away this season: 1 draw, 1 win.

We need to win today no matter what, hopefully that loss against PSG this week was a wake-up call for Zidane and the players. If we win today, there's no doubt that it'll make things worse for Barcelona and I would love to see more of that " Barcelona crisis" Wink

Oh it's def a wake up call. Real's midfield is crappy and Zidane doesn't seem to have an idea on how the club should play... Couple that with Perez holding back on his promise at the summer transfer window and you got a potential disaster of a season imo.

Anyway I root for them. Hazaaard!

Its funny really that both, Real as well as Barca, seem to be completely out of order... Cheesy

I am cheeeeeeeeeering for Barca though =)

tokeweed

legendary

Activity: 3976

Merit: 1421

Life, Love and Laughter...

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 22, 2019, 06:18:10 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on September 21, 2019, 05:46:38 PM

Honestly, I doubt that Barca will sack Valverde soon.

Yeah, I think they won't sack him because Messi and the key players in the dressing room really like him.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 22, 2019, 03:19:05 AM

Are they playing badly or is just unluck matches? (sometimes happens they the ball doesn't want to enter for any reason)

This isn't bad luck, Barcelona are actually really fucking bad right now. Yesterday, they had +70% ball possession but only one shot on target even though they have the likes of Suarez, Griezmann, Messi, etc. I posted yesterday that this is the worst start of the league in over 25 years for Barcelona, that's pretty alarming.

Today: Sevilla vs Real Madrid

Some statistics: 9 out of the last 10 games between both teams ended with over 2.5 goals (6 wins Real, 4 wins Sevilla). Last time RM won at the Sanchez Pizjuan was in 2015 (FT 2-3). Sevilla at home this season: 1 draw. Real Madrid away this season: 1 draw, 1 win.

We need to win today no matter what, hopefully that loss against PSG this week was a wake-up call for Zidane and the players. If we win today, there's no doubt that it'll make things worse for Barcelona and I would love to see more of that " Barcelona crisis" Wink

Oh it's def a wake up call. Real's midfield is crappy and Zidane doesn't seem to have an idea on how the club should play... Couple that with Perez holding back on his promise at the summer transfer window and you got a potential disaster of a season imo.

Anyway I root for them. Hazaaard!

BitcoinGirl.Club

legendary

Activity: 2800

Merit: 2736

Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o

Big frustration for Barcelona and it's fans. Messi was there, the youngster Fati was there, Suarez was there, Vidal was there but a B grade team like Granada got two goals! Against team like Barcelona! I doubt Barcelona is playing for season title.

In EPL Man U and in La Liga it's Barcelona. R.I.P

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 22, 2019, 06:18:10 AM

Yesterday, they had +70% ball possession

But if you can not capitalize and score then there are no point of passing balls to each others. Too disappointing performance.

tomahawk9

hero member

Activity: 2086

Merit: 994

Cats on Mars

Quote from: LTU_btc on September 21, 2019, 05:46:38 PM

Honestly, I doubt that Barca will sack Valverde soon.

Yeah, I think they won't sack him because Messi and the key players in the dressing room really like him.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 22, 2019, 03:19:05 AM

Are they playing badly or is just unluck matches? (sometimes happens they the ball doesn't want to enter for any reason)

This isn't bad luck, Barcelona are actually really fucking bad right now. Yesterday, they had +70% ball possession but only one shot on target even though they have the likes of Suarez, Griezmann, Messi, etc. I posted yesterday that this is the worst start of the league in over 25 years for Barcelona, that's pretty alarming.

Today: Sevilla vs Real Madrid

Some statistics: 9 out of the last 10 games between both teams ended with over 2.5 goals (6 wins Real, 4 wins Sevilla). Last time RM won at the Sanchez Pizjuan was in 2015 (FT 2-3). Sevilla at home this season: 1 draw. Real Madrid away this season: 1 draw, 1 win.

We need to win today no matter what, hopefully that loss against PSG this week was a wake-up call for Zidane and the players. If we win today, there's no doubt that it'll make things worse for Barcelona and I would love to see more of that " Barcelona crisis" Wink

Pab

legendary

Activity: 1862

Merit: 1012

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 22, 2019, 03:19:05 AM

what happened to Barca? Is this the end of the Messi era?

Have they ever lost 2 games in 5games at the start?
Are they playing badly or is just unluck matches? (sometimes happens they the ball doesn't want to enter for any reason)

Messi is very good player and will be.But Messi and Barca were greatest when Iniesta and Xavi was playing
By my opinion Iniesta was most inteligent player of his time and there is very hard to replace him
But show must goes on so Barce needs to find solution

dobolspeed3

full member

Activity: 714

Merit: 100

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 22, 2019, 03:19:05 AM

what happened to Barca? Is this the end of the Messi era?

However, sooner or later. The messi era will end. If they only hope for messi, it will not improve the situation.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 22, 2019, 03:19:05 AM

Have they ever lost 2 games in 5games at the start?

If you look at the previous season, Barcelona very rarely lose their points or even difficult to find Barcelona suffered even 2 losses in 5 matches.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 22, 2019, 03:19:05 AM

Are they playing badly or is just unluck matches? (sometimes happens they the ball doesn't want to enter for any reason)

This is their bad match. They find it hard to find the rhythm back to their game. So this is bad their game is not bad luck.

rachman mahesa

full member

Activity: 966

Merit: 111

Quote from: Pab on September 22, 2019, 04:36:29 AM

What a great Granada game.And now Granada is La Liga leader

I have to admit Granada is very good game. Although possession of the ball was defeated by Barcelona, but it was not a problem. Because the end result is what we see.

For a while Granda is ranked 1, but we are waiting for the Sevilla match later. If sevilla doesn't get points and Real Madrid get 3 points, then Real Madrid is likely to be at the top of the table.

Pab

legendary

Activity: 1862

Merit: 1012

What a great Granada game.And now Granada is La Liga leader
Barca has big trouble to win away games.Look his away results so poor
Messi was injured but it is not excuse. Real is in poor form
I think that it was mistake to keep Valverde
Barca has new great players but is playing worst .Barca has really great team so what is going on
With that kind of play Barca has no chance in Europe

Harkorede

copper member

Activity: 2044

Merit: 793

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 22, 2019, 03:19:05 AM

Are they playing badly or is just unluck matches? (sometimes happens they the ball doesn't want to enter for any reason)

They are playing a badly and that's just it. They are times where no matter how you try the ball just doesn't want to go in, Yesterday's game definitely wasn't one of those days, Barcelona registered only a shot on target for the entire 90 minutes of the match. you don't win game just by possessing the ball for entirety of a match.

Quote from: Coyster on September 21, 2019, 11:50:59 PM

You can call me anti Valverde, but I've never liked his coaching techniques and his strategies

Tactically, Valverde is a disgrace to modern football of Barcelona's standard. How can you start Roberto, de Jong, Rakitic all in the midfield position at once ? Was he expecting any sort of creativity from such combination ? Individually these are brilliant players but together(In the midfield) it's shooting yourself in the foot.

My Observations:
1. Arthur should have started the game, instead of Rakitic / or Roberto, he's more creative and attack minded and could almost fill the void of Alba's absence on the right flank. I'd rather have had Arthur, De Jong and Rakitic...
2. Griezmann doesn't necessarily have to be on the pitch when it's obvious he's playing out of position which renders him rather ineffective.
3. There is no tactical difference bringing in Vidal for Rakitic the latter is only better in air.

#ValverdeOut

coinlocket$

legendary

Activity: 2604

Merit: 1517

#1 VIP Crypto Casino

what happened to Barca? Is this the end of the Messi era?

Have they ever lost 2 games in 5games at the start?
Are they playing badly or is just unluck matches? (sometimes happens they the ball doesn't want to enter for any reason)

slaman29

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1226

Livecasino, 20% cashback, no fuss payouts.

Quote from: joniboini on September 21, 2019, 10:46:15 PM

To be honest, this is my first time seeing a team with over 70% possession register less than 10% chances in a match[1].

That being said, Barca didn't defend really well. The first goal happened after they lost possession on their defense area, not enough cover to mark Granada forwards. It's a 3v2 situation and one of the attackers is free. Barca's left their right side free, while the midfield ran slowly to cover the CB. A bit of luck might play on Granada's goal but that's deserved.

This is Barcelona. Possession is always guaranteed, but the chances never are. I've seen it before and we will continue to see it. Teams that keep possession must also create the chances and if they can't, they get more desperate and lose possession where it matters, and it bites them back as you saw. Teams like Granada didn't get lucky, they just knew where to steal the ball back.

Naida_BR

member

Activity: 980

Merit: 62

Quote from: hahay on September 21, 2019, 07:46:51 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on September 21, 2019, 06:58:17 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on September 21, 2019, 02:56:46 PM

EDIT: Thank God, Messi and Fati have come on. I hope it's not too late Huh

Not even Messi and Fati could save Barca this time round Grin

Over dependence of specific players is starting to bite hard on Barca... and of course to reaffirm my point, i don't think Griezmann will thrive in Barcelona like he used to in Atletico Madrid.
He shall just see a few glimpses of his capabilities once in a while but perhaps not in matches where it would matter most.

Lol, Barca started the season poorly this time and it is time for Barca not to continue to depend on one or two players because it has clearly seen a very bad impact on the team. Some of the star players they have are still not being put to good use by Barca to eliminate this dependency, this season is very interesting for La Liga, although the point difference is still not far but at least it will become a more competitive league.

Barcelona's performance is totally frustrating.
I didn't expect them to lose from Granada. They have so much difference in quality. I think it is time for Messi to leave the club and maybe go to China. Barcelona needs to rebuild the team without him.

joniboini

legendary

Activity: 2170

Merit: 1789

Quote from: EdenHazard on September 21, 2019, 11:22:09 PM

Just look at how Barcelona and real Madrid recently getting losses ... both mostly conceded with a simple real quick counter attack. Easy.

Yep, they need to fix their defense and transition. You can't defend a counter-attack if you don't run asap. Take a look at Barca's midfield and wing back performance yesterday, it was terrible. Firpo (?) fall after Granada forwards take the ball and yet he didn't stand up asap but stay there hoping for a foul. No surprises when some media rate him with 4 out of 10[1].

You can't play a possession-based football like that, especially if your opponent uses a counter-pressing. If the opponent is way better than Granada, Barca could get crushed easily.

[1] https://tribuna.com/en/fcbarcelona/news/3468426/

Coyster

legendary

Activity: 2184

Merit: 1302

Playbet.io - Crypto Casino and Sportsbook

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 21, 2019, 08:57:41 AM

I do not see any upset to happen in this match. 4 - 1 win for Barcelona. 🤪

Well we did see an upset and after i watched Barcelona's Champions League game in the midweek I wasn't actually too surprised with this result. If you ask me I think the coach is yet to bring out the best for this team, I know Messi hasn't been fit, but isn't that the reason they bought Antoine Griezeman, for situations such as this, but he's looking a shadow of himself in a Barcelona jersey.

You can call me anti Valverde, but I've never liked his coaching techniques and his strategies, There were calls from some section of the fans to sack him before the season began, but the board refused to answer those calls, I believe if the team doesn't improve in the coming weeks, Ernesto Valverde could really have his job on the line.

EdenHazard

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1048

Quote from: joniboini on September 21, 2019, 10:46:15 PM

To be honest, this is my first time seeing a team with over 70% possession register less than 10% chances in a match[1].

That being said, Barca didn't defend really well. The first goal happened after they lost possession on their defense area, not enough cover to mark Granada forwards. It's a 3v2 situation and one of the attackers is free. Barca's left their right side free, while the midfield ran slowly to cover the CB. A bit of luck might play on Granada's goal but that's deserved.

Another note for Barca is that Ter Stegen made a really bad save, and might as well become a goal. It's overall a bad day for Barcelona.

[1] https://understat.com/match/12065

I even think just because of that posession game they are lost , it's been practiced in the last few years by a team like Barcelona and real Madrid which the oppositions have learned a lot how to counter that kind game style.

Just look at how Barcelona and real Madrid recently getting losses ... both mostly conceded with a simple real quick counter attack. Easy.

I always against the odds but this time unfortunately didn't anticipated this coming ... you guys could get @8.3 odds for Granada to win. Hell I put my money while Barcelona left 0-1 behind with a low odds around @2.1 in hope they could make it a draw or a comeback at least , it's just wasted away.

Another unlucky day for me , I'm sick and sucks these weeks.

joniboini

legendary

Activity: 2170

Merit: 1789

To be honest, this is my first time seeing a team with over 70% possession register less than 10% chances in a match[1].

That being said, Barca didn't defend really well. The first goal happened after they lost possession on their defense area, not enough cover to mark Granada forwards. It's a 3v2 situation and one of the attackers is free. Barca's left their right side free, while the midfield ran slowly to cover the CB. A bit of luck might play on Granada's goal but that's deserved.

Another note for Barca is that Ter Stegen made a really bad save, and might as well become a goal. It's overall a bad day for Barcelona.

[1] https://understat.com/match/12065

hahay

legendary

Activity: 3486

Merit: 1055

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on September 21, 2019, 06:58:17 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on September 21, 2019, 02:56:46 PM

EDIT: Thank God, Messi and Fati have come on. I hope it's not too late Huh

Not even Messi and Fati could save Barca this time round Grin

Over dependence of specific players is starting to bite hard on Barca... and of course to reaffirm my point, i don't think Griezmann will thrive in Barcelona like he used to in Atletico Madrid.
He shall just see a few glimpses of his capabilities once in a while but perhaps not in matches where it would matter most.

Lol, Barca started the season poorly this time and it is time for Barca not to continue to depend on one or two players because it has clearly seen a very bad impact on the team. Some of the star players they have are still not being put to good use by Barca to eliminate this dependency, this season is very interesting for La Liga, although the point difference is still not far but at least it will become a more competitive league.

Bitcoin_Arena

copper member

Activity: 2128

Merit: 1814

฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.

Quote from: Harkorede on September 21, 2019, 02:56:46 PM

EDIT: Thank God, Messi and Fati have come on. I hope it's not too late Huh

Not even Messi and Fati could save Barca this time round Grin

Over dependence of specific players is starting to bite hard on Barca... and of course to reaffirm my point, i don't think Griezmann will thrive in Barcelona like he used to in Atletico Madrid.
He shall just see a few glimpses of his capabilities once in a while but perhaps not in matches where it would matter most.

LTU_btc

legendary

Activity: 3262

Merit: 1376

Slava Ukraini!

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 21, 2019, 04:59:24 PM

It's been over an hour after the match ended and Valverde is still the manager...what a joke of a board. Are Zidane and Valverde fighting to see who gets the sack first? LOL who would you guys pick?

Honestly, I doubt that Barca will sack Valverde soon. I hope that I'm wrong... But they had to sack him after big failure last season. Probably we need to apear in relegation zone that Valverde finally would be sacked So, I would pick Zidane lol.
It's incredible that team with players like Messi, Griezmann, de Jong and others plays like bottom league table team.

Darkoth89

hero member

Activity: 1274

Merit: 646

Ouch, didn't see that coming. Wasn't able to watch the game. Was Barca really that bad?

I know it's still early in the season but La Liga in general seems to be more thrilling this season, now that Barcelona and Real Madrid are both struggling. Do you think we might see another champion this season (maybe Atletico again)?

Topic: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4592. (Read 538136 times)