La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4753.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 19, 2019, 02:37:41 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on August 17, 2019, 12:26:20 PM

It really hurts me as a Barca fan to see the way the team played last night, getting desperate with their shots even though they actually had the game in control. Even took me so long to finally write about it.

This was a long time in the signs already of course and we really need fresh blood. Fans say luckily Real are also in decline, but we forget to respect others like Athletico and Sevilla.

In my opinion, it's not good and healthy when one team depends so much on one player.
Messi is probably one of the 3 the best players in soccer history but he is not young any more.
How long he can still play?
What will happen with Barca when Messi retire?
Who can replace Messi?

Yes, Sooner or later Lionel Messi will retire and most probably what is now happening for Real Madrid after Cristiano Ronaldo will happen for Barcelona too. But I am sure that effect won't be permanent. Barcelona is a big club with great academies. I expect them to manage to find an alternative. But it will probably take some times.

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Quote from: slaman29 on August 17, 2019, 12:26:20 PM

It really hurts me as a Barca fan to see the way the team played last night, getting desperate with their shots even though they actually had the game in control. Even took me so long to finally write about it.

This was a long time in the signs already of course and we really need fresh blood. Fans say luckily Real are also in decline, but we forget to respect others like Athletico and Sevilla.

In my opinion, it's not good and healthy when one team depends so much on one player.
Messi is probably one of the 3 the best players in soccer history but he is not young any more.
How long he can still play?
What will happen with Barca when Messi retire?
Who can replace Messi?

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So last night's results told us what, except the teams people are thinking will have an outside chance of winning the league, are confirming the hype. No surprises here at all, unlike Granada hitting 4 at Villareal last night. Joao Felix sort of impressed too I guess, mostly quiet but he had that solo run leading to a penalty, so Atletico will feel they have a chance.

818 days since Real last topped Barca in league table, by the way.

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Quote from: HODL2090 on August 18, 2019, 11:27:59 PM

Atletico are kind of the dark horse among the top three Spanish teams, they had an incredible summer transfer window, despite losing their best player to Barcelona, (and maybe having to over pay for one of their sign-ins.
Then again, it's just one game and the season is going to be a long protracted one.

It looks promising for Atletico Madrid, they certainly have chance to win league this year, both Barcelona and real Madrid don't look invincible.Joao Alex will need some time to get used to Atletico Madrid, it wasnt easy game for him last night, defenders really focused on him.
Of those new guys, i liked Tripper too, he was very good.

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Atletico are kind of the dark horse among the top three Spanish teams, they had an incredible summer transfer window, despite losing their best player to Barcelona, (and maybe having to over pay for one of their sign-ins.
Then again, it's just one game and the season is going to be a long protracted one.

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Till 2 months ago I used to guess Real Madrid will be the champions of 2019-20. I expected Zidan to manage to win this season with. But now my mind has changed a bit. I still believe there's aprobability that Real Madrid will make it. But I don't faith in Real Madrid as much as before. Real Madrid's pre-season results were really awful. It doesn't seem that Luka Jovic can be a big goal scorer.
I also expected Paul Pogba to be brought to Real Madrid. So, I think, there will be problems in midfield too.
Now I think Atletico and Barcelona have greater chance of winning this season of La liga. It's really difficult for me to choose one of these two teams.

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Quote from: HODL2090 on August 18, 2019, 12:59:10 AM

Quote from: joniboini on August 17, 2019, 11:18:57 PM

Are there no great young players on Barca squad? Why not promote them instead of looking for players to buy?
Sometimes I wonder why these clubs have their young squad or school if they never use the players in the end.

There's Puig, Oriel, Alena who are promising young talents. But the board has not been as efficient in managing young talents as it did a decade ago. Xavi Simon's was lost to PSG recently and others as well. The team now wants to buy talent rather than build.

I agree with your thoughts. Who is the last player from academy who plays in starting squad of Barca? Sergi Roberto? There is so many academy talent wasted in recent years and hundreds millions spent in transfer market. And many times these millions been wasted. Alena, Puig is very talented player, but there is no guarantees that they will become future of Barca.
But I'm not concerned much about loss of Simmons. Yeah, he is great talent, but when 16 old teenager lesves team just to get a bit more money, it shows that not everything is ok with his attitude. But knowing that his agent is Mino Raiola it's not surprising...

Betis loss cost me some money. They got very early red card and weren't able to play good football against Valladolid. Not the best day for me, because also bet on Chelsea win earlier today. Hope thst at least Atletico will win. 20 minutes left and they're leading just 1:0.

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Joao Felix game was impressive in pre-season.
Now it's only starting for the first week of la league, he will surely show it the highest level as the price.

For sure, I truly believe in him in my opinion he can be a Balòon d'Or in two or three years.

Fun match now, 10 vs 10 Cheesy

It will be a fast game now, watch it if you can.

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Watching Atletico right now, and mister 120M Joao Felix, nothing impressive so far.

The expectation on this player is on very high level.

By the way Atletico is winning now with a Morata's Goal.

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Quote from: yoseph on August 18, 2019, 10:59:04 AM

Are there no great young players on Barca squad? Why not promote them instead of looking for players to buy?
Sometimes I wonder why these clubs have their young squad or school if they never use the players in the end.

Thats the thing with training players from the youth, in the end, things doesn't always pan out the way that you may want them to, Even with the La Masia academy their best exports so far are Messi, Iniest and Xavi trio and with the competitiveness of the La Liga, one can't simply wait for these players to develop and have to buy.

In some way money has ruined the tradition of having homegrown players especially in those top clubs. Clubs are now looking at investing in already made players who also have a lot of hype when it comes to sponsorship deals and other sources of revenue like Shirt sales.

Top clubs in the top leagues simply don't have that patience anymore to wait for a player to develop for 5-6 years from childhood and the most painful thing is to have your player develop only for him to be bought off by another club.

Look at Arsenal, they even don't produce young great talent anymore because of that.

The few clubs that try to do that get their players bought off as soon as they show some signs of a brighter future. Clubs like Dortmund, Monaco and the latest Victim being Ajax have all suffered the same fate.

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Quote from: yoseph on August 18, 2019, 10:59:04 AM

Are there no great young players on Barca squad? Why not promote them instead of looking for players to buy?
Sometimes I wonder why these clubs have their young squad or school if they never use the players in the end.

Why do you have to buy?
Because that's the instant way to get great players in football. If a club buys a well-known and great player, there is definitely an added value to the sale of merchandise. You can't just hope in the academy, because it certainly takes time for someone to develop again.

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Are there no great young players on Barca squad? Why not promote them instead of looking for players to buy?
Sometimes I wonder why these clubs have their young squad or school if they never use the players in the end.
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Thats the thing with training players from the youth, in the end, things doesn't always pan out the way that you may want them to, Even with the La Masia academy their best exports so far are Messi, Iniest and Xavi trio and with the competitiveness of the La Liga, one can't simply wait for these players to develop and have to buy.

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Quote from: drwhobox on August 17, 2019, 12:29:35 PM

I was thinking Barcelona will have an easy win.

The defeat was not expected, but San Memes is not a turf where you go expecting easy victories, Athlectic Bilbao are a brilliant side who can hurt any opponent if they get the chance. Batca played much below par.

Quote from: joniboini on August 17, 2019, 11:18:57 PM

Are there no great young players on Barca squad? Why not promote them instead of looking for players to buy?
Sometimes I wonder why these clubs have their young squad or school if they never use the players in the end.

There's Puig, Oriel, Alena who are promising young talents. But the board has not been as efficient in managing young talents as it did a decade ago. Xavi Simon's was lost to PSG recently and others as well. The team now wants to buy talent rather than build.

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Quote from: drwhobox on August 17, 2019, 12:29:35 PM

It was hurting to see Barcelona losing their first match of the season. May be a weak up call. I was not able to see the match but when I saw the score this morning I was shocked. I was thinking Barcelona will have an easy win. Without Messi, Barcelona seems an average team.

That is the beauty of football, and it should be like that. An interesting match is the one where the result is not predictable or if the result is 180 degrees different from what most people expected. After all, football is a team game, not a single or double match.

Quote from: slaman29 on August 17, 2019, 12:26:20 PM

This was a long time in the signs already of course and we really need fresh blood. Fans say luckily Real are also in decline, but we forget to respect others like Athletico and Sevilla.

Are there no great young players on Barca squad? Why not promote them instead of looking for players to buy?
Sometimes I wonder why these clubs have their young squad or school if they never use the players in the end.

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It was hurting to see Barcelona losing their first match of the season. May be a weak up call. I was not able to see the match but when I saw the score this morning I was shocked. I was thinking Barcelona will have an easy win. Without Messi, Barcelona seems an average team.

The start for Real was good. Although Modric had to go out very early.

In the Valencia vs Real Sociedad, I am expecting a win for Valencia by the way.

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It really hurts me as a Barca fan to see the way the team played last night, getting desperate with their shots even though they actually had the game in control. Even took me so long to finally write about it.

This was a long time in the signs already of course and we really need fresh blood. Fans say luckily Real are also in decline, but we forget to respect others like Athletico and Sevilla.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on August 17, 2019, 10:03:41 AM

Quote from: Ulven on August 17, 2019, 07:39:25 AM

I exepect real Madrid to win this one. My prediction is Celta Vigo 1:3 Real Madrid... Gareth Bale with atleast a goals

Lol !! The game just ended,Your hint was true excellent.The squad was perfect for both teams.

Quote from: tokeweed on August 17, 2019, 10:16:20 AM

Bale... Wow. Who's the 'golfer' now. I hope Zidane keeps playing him (as a starter) til the end of the season.

I love this man as a player and coach I think he will win the title for this season,!!zizou😉

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Quote from: DeathAngel on August 17, 2019, 06:55:14 AM

Well, well, well, Barcelona lose their opening game. I didn’t see that coming! Obviously it won’t cause too much of a massive problem in their efforts to be champions again but they must bounce back in their next game.

Bad start for Barcelona losing points in their first match.
I'm just confused, whether Barcelona lose if without messi. This is ridiculous, because they already have good players in each position. I'm sure Barcelona will rise up in the next game.

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Bale... Wow. Who's the 'golfer' now. I hope Zidane keeps playing him (as a starter) til the end of the season.

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