La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 593.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on August 17, 2024, 04:30:52 PM

The match between Valencia and Barcelona has entered extra time and it looks like this will be a win for Barcelona with Lewandowski's brace in this match.
Their dominance is quite good in this match even though the finishing problem still cannot be resolved but looking at what Flick has done it looks like this will be a good thing for Barcelona.
Flick tries to implement a solid midfield and makes a breakthrough with Raphinha's position which is usually always used as a winger but now he is used as a second striker which slightly changes Barcelona's formation style which I think is quite good.

Btw I don't see Dani Olmo in the squad they are currently bringing, is he still not registered or is he still unable to join Barcelona for the first match?

Dani Olmo's out of the squad means he is still not in the good form. We know Dani Olmo is a good player and he is young too, which means Dani Olmo can play in Barcelona for years and he can be a good investment for this team considering his age and his situation but still Dani Olmo is not in the good form and other than his own situation it seems Dani Olmo's contract is not registered yet because of the financial situation of Barcelona.
This can be a problem for this team but when they hired Dani Olmo they were expecting to have the teams improved by using this player.

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Your guess is correct. In the second half, Barcelona changed their tactics and increased the pace of attack. And in the 49th minute, Lewandowski managed to score his second goal from the penalty spot. Barcelona now lead 2-1. But Barcelona did not slow down their attack. So there is a possibility of more goals in this match. But Valencia is playing defensive strategy. and trying to score from the counter attack.

Barcelona is playing credibly well today, they made their fans happy with a great comeback in the early minutes of the second half which I think they will be able to maintain because they have taking the dominance of the entire match. Their young stars are very good, they are making the fans proud because many people were expecting less from them especially as financial situation affected their team from signing any player of their choice to strengthen their squad. With this, I will be arguing with people that are underrating the young players of Barcelona.

Yeah, it must be admitted that Barcelona played very well in this match and Lewandowski the old player can still be relied on, total 18 shots is there any evidence that Barcelona players are very aggressive which means they are ready to compete with Real Madrid. I'm not saying Barcelona is a real competitor for Real Madrid but at least Barcelona won't let it go that easily. One worrying thing about Barcelona is that they don't have enough reserve players if one of the main players is injured then it will make it more difficult for the team well, Barcelona must avoid it as much as possible. Tomorrow is Real Madrid's schedule to play their first match even though they are playing away, I don't doubt them one bit.

Well, it worked out yesterday, but I am not sure that he is a player I would be willing to rely upon for a whole season. He is a good player and he still has the quality to play well, but what will his role be when they face the big teams in the Champions League? It was quite disappointing last season and he isn't getting any younger. I expect more injuries and decreased efficiency. He had some bad times last season when he didn't score in a very long time. I hope that Yamal is going to take the next step as he is a player who has a massive future. Still hard to believe he is just 17 years old...

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on August 17, 2024, 04:06:57 PM

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Your guess is correct. In the second half, Barcelona changed their tactics and increased the pace of attack. And in the 49th minute, Lewandowski managed to score his second goal from the penalty spot. Barcelona now lead 2-1. But Barcelona did not slow down their attack. So there is a possibility of more goals in this match. But Valencia is playing defensive strategy. and trying to score from the counter attack.

Barcelona is playing credibly well today, they made their fans happy with a great comeback in the early minutes of the second half which I think they will be able to maintain because they have taking the dominance of the entire match. Their young stars are very good, they are making the fans proud because many people were expecting less from them especially as financial situation affected their team from signing any player of their choice to strengthen their squad. With this, I will be arguing with people that are underrating the young players of Barcelona.

Yeah, it must be admitted that Barcelona played very well in this match and Lewandowski the old player can still be relied on, total 18 shots is there any evidence that Barcelona players are very aggressive which means they are ready to compete with Real Madrid. I'm not saying Barcelona is a real competitor for Real Madrid but at least Barcelona won't let it go that easily. One worrying thing about Barcelona is that they don't have enough reserve players if one of the main players is injured then it will make it more difficult for the team well, Barcelona must avoid it as much as possible. Tomorrow is Real Madrid's schedule to play their first match even though they are playing away, I don't doubt them one bit.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on August 17, 2024, 03:31:12 PM

Valencia were leading already and have had the best chances in the game which they should have been able to convert more opportunities. They should have scored two by now because they have been able to find ways through the Barcelona Defense, but they couldn't before Barcelona turned up the heat to score one back to get leveled.
Valencia have not played bad at all, they can win this game in the second half if Barcelona do not correct their errors from the first half, and if they convert more of the chances that they create.

Barcelona managed to make a comeback in today's match because two goals scored by Lewandowksi made them lead today's match. 3 points are very meaningful in the first match of the season because it will give them more enthusiasm for the next match. Valencia is not a weak opponent because in the first half Valencia was able to play quite well and they even managed to create several good opportunities.

Lewandowksi is still a frightening threat for Valencia because he is able to maintain his quality as a goal-hungry striker. Two goals in the first match made my assumption that he would return to the ranks of top scorers this season. 3 points will make Barcelona sit comfortably at the top of the rankings and this is quite a good step for them.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on August 17, 2024, 03:31:12 PM

Valencia were leading already and have had the best chances in the game which they should have been able to convert more opportunities. They should have scored two by now because they have been able to find ways through the Barcelona Defense, but they couldn't before Barcelona turned up the heat to score one back to get leveled.
Valencia have not played bad at all, they can win this game in the second half if Barcelona do not correct their errors from the first half, and if they convert more of the chances that they create.

Scoring first does not guarantee you will win the game and scoring first gives you more work because you have to protect you goal post and the same time try to score more goals but when they score their first goal they will want to relent and it does not work that way and Barcelona to charge of the game and are dominating but if not for the penalty will they be able to actually score another goal. They have 3 shots on target but if it's not a goal then it is void but the game have ended already and it does not look as if they will be able to add any additional goal this shows that is not their luck, since the season is just starting they have more games to play and they can even use this one to actually bring out their weaknesses, and work towards it. Valencia Did not disappoint at all they played and if not for the penalty their was a very high probability that the game might have ended draw, it now like a lucky for Barcelona.

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The match between Valencia and Barcelona has entered extra time and it looks like this will be a win for Barcelona with Lewandowski's brace in this match.
Their dominance is quite good in this match even though the finishing problem still cannot be resolved but looking at what Flick has done it looks like this will be a good thing for Barcelona.
Flick tries to implement a solid midfield and makes a breakthrough with Raphinha's position which is usually always used as a winger but now he is used as a second striker which slightly changes Barcelona's formation style which I think is quite good.

Btw I don't see Dani Olmo in the squad they are currently bringing, is he still not registered or is he still unable to join Barcelona for the first match?

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Quote from: letteredhub on August 17, 2024, 03:42:02 PM

Quote from: Palakka on August 17, 2024, 10:07:38 AM

Hansi Flick is saddled with a tougher challenge in this season than Xavi had previously. Every team right now is heavily beefed up with big signings. Barcelona missed a few signing on player's of their main interest as a result of financial problems the class b is facing, and it's from this viewpoint that I don't think it's really necessary to expected too much from Hansi especially on winning a trophy this season both in domestic league and European competition.

In the game tonight, I don't think it's a bad result if it end in a draw and this very first match can't be used to judge how great or bad the season is gonna be for Barcelona under Hansi, and to crown it all they are playing from away of which the home team Valencia wouldn't want to lose on their soil on their first game too. For now it's a fair result 1:1, Valencia goal scored by Duro, and lewandoski for barcelona as the first half has just ended.

Even though Barcelona doesn't have enough budget to build a squad on par with Real Madrid, Barcelona is still a team that is superior to the average La Liga team. I agree that Real Madrid has a higher chance of securing the title this season, but I don't underestimate Barcelona who looks just as good in the hands of Hansi Flick.

Barcelona can't really be expected to win the title, but they can be expected to be tough competitors in the race for the title. Their first match went well, maybe they can win and secure 3 points. So far Barcelona is 1-2 ahead of Valencia, but there are still a few minutes before the match is over.

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Quote from: Tony116 on August 17, 2024, 03:54:15 PM

There is no doubt that Barcelona's overall performance today was very tidy. Barcelona's gameplay is stable thanks to the help of Hansi Flick. Even though the team is young, Barcelona's youngsters are able to perform well. The understanding between the players is also excellent.

The match is still ongoing until now in the 80th minute, Barcelona is still leading 1-2. However, if it is still like this, I am sure that Barcelona will win, they are superior in ball possession and attacks. Great debut for Flick.

Source: Lwandowsky penalty kick - goal
Anyway, Lewandowski is still trusted to be the club's penalty kick executor. Yes, mentally, he is ready for it, and experience teaches him very much. Lewy's 2 goals further indicate that he is still worth it to be at the club. Great job, too for Yamal, for the assists and contribution.

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Quote from: Tony116 on August 17, 2024, 03:54:15 PM

Your guess is correct. In the second half, Barcelona changed their tactics and increased the pace of attack. And in the 49th minute, Lewandowski managed to score his second goal from the penalty spot. Barcelona now lead 2-1. But Barcelona did not slow down their attack. So there is a possibility of more goals in this match. But Valencia is playing defensive strategy. and trying to score from the counter attack.

Barcelona is playing credibly well today, they made their fans happy with a great comeback in the early minutes of the second half which I think they will be able to maintain because they have taking the dominance of the entire match. Their young stars are very good, they are making the fans proud because many people were expecting less from them especially as financial situation affected their team from signing any player of their choice to strengthen their squad. With this, I will be arguing with people that are underrating the young players of Barcelona.

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Quote from: BALIK on August 17, 2024, 03:27:57 PM

Barcelona's overall gameplay was good in the first half, although Barcelona conceded one goal. In the second half, Hansi Flick will make some changes in his match tactics and Barcelona's gameplay seems to be more dynamic.

There is no doubt that Barcelona's overall performance today was very tidy. Barcelona's gameplay is stable thanks to the help of Hansi Flick. Even though the team is young, Barcelona's youngsters are able to perform well. The understanding between the players is also excellent.

Your guess is correct. In the second half, Barcelona changed their tactics and increased the pace of attack. And in the 49th minute, Lewandowski managed to score his second goal from the penalty spot. Barcelona now lead 2-1. But Barcelona did not slow down their attack. So there is a possibility of more goals in this match. But Valencia is playing defensive strategy. and trying to score from the counter attack.

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Quote from: wmaurik on August 17, 2024, 10:28:57 AM

If Barcelona fans want to be on top so they can stop Real Madrid from being at the top, that is a very big hope mate, because this season Real Madrid still has a fairly complete squad in all lines so their strength level is not reduced. As for Atletico and Girona, I think both teams can create another surprise this season because there is still a lot of time for both of them to make improvements on their respective sides. But for the match against Valencia today, I also hope Barcelona can win because it is an opponent that is worthy enough for Barcelona to beat.

For this I actually expect Atletico to make a new breakthrough especially with what they did by overhauling their attack line by bringing in Sorloth and Julian Alvarez of course this can add to the attack power Atletico have because their players are quite complex now.
Even so, it is still difficult for Madrid to be touched. As you said in this case, Madrid's current strength is evenly distributed from all lines even though most of them are young players but their capacity and strength cannot be doubted and this is what can make conditions difficult for other clubs. It is certain that Barcelona will do many ways to make Madrid inconvenient but indeed with their internal problems that are still not resolved I think it will always be a thorn for Barcelona and it could be that it will make them inconvenient because of the recurring problems of unavoidable finances.

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Quote from: Palakka on August 17, 2024, 10:07:38 AM

Barcelona fans this season expect a lot from hansi flick who has just replaced xavi as coach, last season they managed to end the season in the second position and of course they hope thisseasons that hansi flick can bring Barcelona to get a trophy at the end of the season, the match against valencia is hansi flick first match in Barcelona so it is very important for him to be able to get 3 points in the match as a first step and also increase the confidence of the players and Fans later, the pre-season match did not go well for Barcelona and this is the time for Hansi Flick to prove to Barcelona fans that he is indeed worthy of coaching Barcelona, so far in a head to head manner, of course Barcelona is superior to Valencia but still Barcelona must remain aware of Valencia's game in the match, because after all Valencia will provide fierce resistance and of course high motivation when playing at home in la liga first match.

Hansi Flick is saddled with a tougher challenge in this season than Xavi had previously. Every team right now is heavily beefed up with big signings. Barcelona missed a few signing on player's of their main interest as a result of financial problems the class b is facing, and it's from this viewpoint that I don't think it's really necessary to expected too much from Hansi especially on winning a trophy this season both in domestic league and European competition.

In the game tonight, I don't think it's a bad result if it end in a draw and this very first match can't be used to judge how great or bad the season is gonna be for Barcelona under Hansi, and to crown it all they are playing from away of which the home team Valencia wouldn't want to lose on their soil on their first game too. For now it's a fair result 1:1, Valencia goal scored by Duro, and lewandoski for barcelona as the first half has just ended.

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What do you think about this match? This season is not going to be easy for Barcelona and Hansi Flick. Hansi Flick's main target is to use the team's young players properly. If hansi Flick can use the young players correctly then Barcelona will compete for the title this season as well. I know Real Madrid's squad is stronger and more experienced than Barcelona's. But Barcelona's squad also has plenty of talented young players.

Valencia is not a strong team. So bookih consider Barcelona as favorite in this match. The chances of this match being a draw is also very low. Barcelona will certainly not want to drop points in the first match of the season. Barcelona players will fight hard to win the match. However, Barcelona have a past record of dropping points against lesser teams. So Barcelona must play carefully. But I don't think Barcelona will make any mistakes in this match. Because Valencia's defense is not strong. The overall gameplay of this team is also weak.

Valencia has home-field advantage, hence they most likely will park the bus and go for a counter hit. Their game is based on this. Though, Barcelona team can make some different. They new players are ready. And with Pedri returning in the midfield, they might have the control and inventiveness to bust any defense.

Hansi Flick is working from knowledge. He's a winner, and he'll have this team ready to adapt and overcome. Of course, Valencia is going to resist. But I think they'll be going away with three points when the last whistle sounds. This Barcelona team is built to win, and they gonna start the season off strong.

If Barcelona lose this match it will only be because of bad defending. Last season we saw the erratic performance of Barcelona's defenders. Barcelona lost points due to poor performances from defenders in several matches. Barcelona's defense is not strong this season either.

At the end of the first half, the match was tied at 1-1. Valencia's players naturally attacked very little. However, Valencia scored the first goal of the match. Hugo Duro scored the first goal of the match in the 44th minute. However, before the end of the first half, Barcelona managed to equalize the match with Lewandowski's goal. Lewandowski scored from Yamal's pass.

Barcelona's overall gameplay was good in the first half, although Barcelona conceded one goal. In the second half, Hansi Flick will make some changes in his match tactics and Barcelona's gameplay seems to be more dynamic.

Valencia made the most attack in the first half and missed a lot of opportunities especially Hugo Duro. However Hugo Duro was able to find the back of the net with a good header after losing some good chances. But Lewandowski was able to equalize the goal on the extra time of the first half with an assist from Yamal.

I believe that the second half will be more interesting because Barcelona needs to sit up and attack their host if they want to win Valencia. Valencia should make use of whatever chance that they will have in the second half instead of wasting them.

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If Barcelona fans want to be on top so they can stop Real Madrid from being at the top, that is a very big hope mate, because this season Real Madrid still has a fairly complete squad in all lines so their strength level is not reduced. As for Atletico and Girona, I think both teams can create another surprise this season because there is still a lot of time for both of them to make improvements on their respective sides. But for the match against Valencia today, I also hope Barcelona can win because it is an opponent that is worthy enough for Barcelona to beat.

The first half has ended between Valencia vs Barcelona, Barcelona was 1-0 behind Valencia before Lewandowski equalized 1-1 before the first half ended.
Barcelona's chances of winning this match are very high, they are dominating even though they haven't scored many goals so far.

Barcelona dominated this game well and it was still with its trademark style, but the difficulty of breaking into Valencia's goal made them really struggle. Lamine Yamal is playing well on the wing having provided 1 assist for Lewandowski's goal so far, but Yamal also needs to score goals to prove his worth. I think Barcelona can win this match in the end, but let's wait for the second half.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on August 17, 2024, 03:12:02 PM

Hansi Flick is working from knowledge. He's a winner, and he'll have this team ready to adapt and overcome. Of course, Valencia is going to resist. But I think they'll be going away with three points when the last whistle sounds. This Barcelona team is built to win, and they gonna start the season off strong.

Valencia were leading already and have had the best chances in the game which they should have been able to convert more opportunities. They should have scored two by now because they have been able to find ways through the Barcelona Defense, but they couldn't before Barcelona turned up the heat to score one back to get leveled.
Valencia have not played bad at all, they can win this game in the second half if Barcelona do not correct their errors from the first half, and if they convert more of the chances that they create.

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What do you think about this match? This season is not going to be easy for Barcelona and Hansi Flick. Hansi Flick's main target is to use the team's young players properly. If hansi Flick can use the young players correctly then Barcelona will compete for the title this season as well. I know Real Madrid's squad is stronger and more experienced than Barcelona's. But Barcelona's squad also has plenty of talented young players.

Valencia is not a strong team. So bookih consider Barcelona as favorite in this match. The chances of this match being a draw is also very low. Barcelona will certainly not want to drop points in the first match of the season. Barcelona players will fight hard to win the match. However, Barcelona have a past record of dropping points against lesser teams. So Barcelona must play carefully. But I don't think Barcelona will make any mistakes in this match. Because Valencia's defense is not strong. The overall gameplay of this team is also weak.

Valencia has home-field advantage, hence they most likely will park the bus and go for a counter hit. Their game is based on this. Though, Barcelona team can make some different. They new players are ready. And with Pedri returning in the midfield, they might have the control and inventiveness to bust any defense.

Hansi Flick is working from knowledge. He's a winner, and he'll have this team ready to adapt and overcome. Of course, Valencia is going to resist. But I think they'll be going away with three points when the last whistle sounds. This Barcelona team is built to win, and they gonna start the season off strong.

If Barcelona lose this match it will only be because of bad defending. Last season we saw the erratic performance of Barcelona's defenders. Barcelona lost points due to poor performances from defenders in several matches. Barcelona's defense is not strong this season either.

At the end of the first half, the match was tied at 1-1. Valencia's players naturally attacked very little. However, Valencia scored the first goal of the match. Hugo Duro scored the first goal of the match in the 44th minute. However, before the end of the first half, Barcelona managed to equalize the match with Lewandowski's goal. Lewandowski scored from Yamal's pass.

Barcelona's overall gameplay was good in the first half, although Barcelona conceded one goal. In the second half, Hansi Flick will make some changes in his match tactics and Barcelona's gameplay seems to be more dynamic.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on August 17, 2024, 12:33:51 PM

The best bet there is Real Madrid to win even though they are away. This is a significant match for Kylan Mbappe, being his first match in the La Liga, he will do everything possible to score tonight and ensure they secure the 3 points. Part of the reasons he left PSG was lack of trophy so he will do his best to ensure Madrid did not perform below their performance when he was not there yet. Even without Mbappe, Real Mallorca is no match for Real Madrid. Therefore, it will be a smooth ride for Madrid and I think it is worth considering.

Madrid has got the highest probability with win amongst the three picks as seen in the post you quoted, osasuna for me ahs got the lowest preceded by Barcelona who's got the next probability of winning after Madrid, a d it's not a thing to really argue about, it's evidently clear how well this could be with respect to the fact that osasuna has got the least for, strength and depth when compared o Barcelona or Madrid so if a bet must be placed, you can bank most on Madrid, after he victory that gave them their first trophy of the season, their confidence is obviously going to be firm.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 17, 2024, 01:55:38 AM

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What do you think about this match? This season is not going to be easy for Barcelona and Hansi Flick. Hansi Flick's main target is to use the team's young players properly. If hansi Flick can use the young players correctly then Barcelona will compete for the title this season as well. I know Real Madrid's squad is stronger and more experienced than Barcelona's. But Barcelona's squad also has plenty of talented young players.

Valencia is not a strong team. So bookih consider Barcelona as favorite in this match. The chances of this match being a draw is also very low. Barcelona will certainly not want to drop points in the first match of the season. Barcelona players will fight hard to win the match. However, Barcelona have a past record of dropping points against lesser teams. So Barcelona must play carefully. But I don't think Barcelona will make any mistakes in this match. Because Valencia's defense is not strong. The overall gameplay of this team is also weak.

Valencia has home-field advantage, hence they most likely will park the bus and go for a counter hit. Their game is based on this. Though, Barcelona team can make some different. They new players are ready. And with Pedri returning in the midfield, they might have the control and inventiveness to bust any defense.

Hansi Flick is working from knowledge. He's a winner, and he'll have this team ready to adapt and overcome. Of course, Valencia is going to resist. But I think they'll be going away with three points when the last whistle sounds. This Barcelona team is built to win, and they gonna start the season off strong.

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Where is Dani Olmo?? Huh

It is about squad registration or what? I hope he doesn't have any injury. He has just signed for Barcelona so it would be a pity...

Barcelona are trying to score so far but still it is 0-0. I believe Barcelona will win this by one goal at worst. But I would like to see a better team next week. They have a tough work to do in the league.

Real Madrid are coming for that trophy again and they aren't joking at all with that Mbappe signing. Grin

They are also starting with a Mallorca game. I expect an impressive start to the league too after the Super Cup win.

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Honestly, even though Valencia is still below Barcelona, I don't think we can be reckless with this first bet. Barcelona is a club with a big name that they always maintain, but their current condition is unpredictable and I still can't be sure about this match for Barcelona.

Valencia might still be able to maintain 1 point, especially since this is the first match at the beginning of the season, so the initial points are important to support the continuity of the competition, both in terms of performance and mentality.
Seeing this, I won't be too aggressive with betting and I prefer this bet because I don't want to take risks in the first match even though Barcelona is still superior from past statistics, but the Flick era could be different.

First we need to assess what Barcelona is capable of with Flick, this is the first match and it is an away match, so it is obvious that it will not be an easy game for Barcelona. I also see that Gundogan and Gavi will be absent today, so it is better to see how the game goes, Valencia also has several injured players, but for them it will be a home game, so they will definitely want to get points in this match. Maybe I will decide something in live, but I would refrain from pre-match betting.

I feel like this game is not good enough to just asses what they are capable of. I agree that Valencia isn't a bad team but they are not good enough to just calculate how good a team is. Of course if Valencia beats Barcelona by 5-0 then we can say that Barcelona is in big trouble in that case, but if it's a close loss for Barcelona, or a close win for Barcelona, or even a huge win for them, none of those will matter and doesn't matter to them at all. We need to realize that we are going to end up with a bad result even if this game is good, or could be good result at the end of the season even if this game is a loss.

We should be considering how we are going to end up with different results. Hansi Flick isn't a bad manager, I still do not think that he is better than Xavi, but he isn't worse neither and I believe that second place is right where Barcelona could finish, any worse and it would be terrible but if they finish first with this Real Madrid in the league, they may have one of the best titles for them.

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