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Topic: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement - page 201. (Read 452224 times)

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Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do.
Sooo...

We have today :


Verified : 146

Failed   :  42

Did not receive : 170

Can't say I'm happy to see people lose money/bonds/btc BUT it is in everyone's "Verified" interest that the Did not receive stay this way and are absorbed back into LRM.

Sorry, gotta look out for #1!
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Sooo...

We have today :


Verified : 146

Failed   :  42

Did not receive : 170
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Hmm, the list says my verification e-mail was not received. However, I did send the e-mail five days ago - to the address labratATlabratmining.com. Is this not the correct e-mail address, or are some verifications still pending? Thank you.

Same here. I double checked that the signature resolved the message to my address and re-sent it.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Cawe ha link on how to sign again please im lost.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Tried it again, hope it works this time
member
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Looks like I'm all set! Thanks Lab_Rat! Cheesy
BKM
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Great, more fees limiting liquidity. 0.025 fee on shares which are going for 0.05-0.07 right now.

You're only hurting the little guy who wishes to buy 1 or 2 shares at a time with a limited mining income.

I hope this is not the final solution as to how trading is going to happen?

I'd rather offer my developer services to create you a decent automated way Smiley

Umm, 0.5% fee is OK. But 0.025BTC min fee seems quite much.

Besides that, hope there's a solution working soon.
It's not final, @Lab_Rat is looking into automated solutions.  (And the nastyfans website looks kind of cool....)

* grnbrg takes off any sort of "official" LRM hat.  My thoughts here.....

As far as the 0.025BTC fee....  I'll be honest and say that I suggested that.  Until there is an automated system that only needs to be reviewed occasionally, trades are going to have to be handled manually.  Between co-ordinating the emails, verifying signatures, re-requesting invalid signatures, hand-holding the users who don't really understand signatures, making and double-checking the changes to the master list, I figure that each transaction is going to take me 5-10 minutes, probably more.  If there is a transaction for 2 bonds at 0.08BTC each, the 0.5% fee would be 0.0008BTC, or roughly 15 cents.  To be perfectly honest, I don't want to bother with small transactions.  (I know there are people who want small transactions, and I understand their frustration.  But my time is worth more than $2 an hour.) Setting a minimum fee makes it worth my while to process trades.  $5 didn't seem like an unreasonable number.

But, as above.  The process isn't final.  Should the fee be smaller?  How small?  $2 per transaction?  Maybe a flat fee for a transaction of any number of bonds?  Again - until an automated system is set up, this will be manual....

I'm trying to foster some discussion here, and hopefully get away from the surprise changes...  Smiley
grnbrg.

I for one am very grateful LRM has the support of grnbrg - I know what he does for a living and am 1000% confident is time and focus is worth waaaaay more than BTC0.025 to deal with the issue in the interim.

TYVM grnbrg for supporting the transition

Cheers
BKM
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"The List" -- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwZCh0jtSZkwNGVkRk50Wno3Q00/edit?usp=sharing

If you Failed Verification, that means one of many things.  You didn't put in the required info, you sent me an armory signature, or you did some weird stuff that I couldn't figure out.

This does not mean you can't send me another email!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you sent me an armory one, I just didn't get a chance to set up an armory.  Send me the email again as I lost track of which were armory.

Some individuals left the body of the signed message blank or added carriage returns to the end, and I figured out some of them that I should have gave up on sooner.  Those of you who failed... Just put EXACTLY  what you put in the signed message in the email and give the message signature.

I guess I sent my first message too early - signed message sent again - I checked the verification prior to sending

TYVM
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Oh boy. Over 20% of the Shares have not received a claim yet. 11427/55207. I assume this goes down to 10 or 5 % in the next two weeks. But it still means some free (someone else paid for it) hashing power for each share.
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Official LRM shill
Hmm, the list says my verification e-mail was not received. However, I did send the e-mail five days ago - to the address labratATlabratmining.com. Is this not the correct e-mail address, or are some verifications still pending? Thank you.
Just resend.   But before you hit send,  confirm the message verifies by cutting and pasting from the email.

I had to redo mine several times before it would verify - the handling of tabs and spaces is very annoying. Be sure to check for trailing spaces,  and double spaces within lines.



grnbrg.
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@LabRat : email sent, please confirm.
confirmed, yours and about 84 others.

Labrat or grnbrg....

From the list :

"242 1NY4JjTBJuj6EgA9BQ6bXyKdyVThrDRuQk Did Not Receive"

Come on...  Wink
You gota stop humping ..... your avatar...  stop... stop. humping my screen  Smiley Wink
hero member
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Merit: 500
@LabRat : email sent, please confirm.
confirmed, yours and about 84 others.

Labrat or grnbrg....

From the list :

"242 1NY4JjTBJuj6EgA9BQ6bXyKdyVThrDRuQk Did Not Receive"

Come on guys...  Wink
newbie
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Merit: 0
Hmm, the list says my verification e-mail was not received. However, I did send the e-mail five days ago - to the address labratATlabratmining.com. Is this not the correct e-mail address, or are some verifications still pending? Thank you.
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Token/ICO management
If you go through grnbrg or I, you can make trades as of right now.  Other than that, DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT transfer bonds to someone on BitFunder and think that counts as a sale/purchase!!!!
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Token/ICO management
"The List" -- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwZCh0jtSZkwNGVkRk50Wno3Q00/edit?usp=sharing

If you Failed Verification, that means one of many things.  You didn't put in the required info, you sent me an armory signature, or you did some weird stuff that I couldn't figure out.

This does not mean you can't send me another email!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you sent me an armory one, I just didn't get a chance to set up an armory.  Send me the email again as I lost track of which were armory.

Some individuals left the body of the signed message blank or added carriage returns to the end, and I figured out some of them that I should have gave up on sooner.  Those of you who failed... Just put EXACTLY  what you put in the signed message in the email and give the message signature.
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Yeah, I'm ok with that fee until an automated system is in place.
I'm also eagerly waiting for the list! Tongue
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There is no longer any valid trading on BitFunder.  LRM has left the building.  Any transfers made there now will not be considered valid.

@Lab_Rat and I (and possibly a couple of other trusted users that I have heard nothing about) will (probably) shortly be able to approve trades.  That manual process is being worked on.  Slightly longer term is an automated system on labratmining.com.

To be clear:  Since Lab_Rat froze the asset on BitFunder yesterday, there are no valid trades unless you have a signed message from Lab_Rat saying it happened.

grnbrg.

OK.

Great, more fees limiting liquidity. 0.025 fee on shares which are going for 0.05-0.07 right now.

You're only hurting the little guy who wishes to buy 1 or 2 shares at a time with a limited mining income.

I hope this is not the final solution as to how trading is going to happen?

I'd rather offer my developer services to create you a decent automated way Smiley

Umm, 0.5% fee is OK. But 0.025BTC min fee seems quite much.

Besides that, hope there's a solution working soon.
It's not final, @Lab_Rat is looking into automated solutions.  (And the nastyfans website looks kind of cool....)

* grnbrg takes off any sort of "official" LRM hat.  My thoughts here.....

As far as the 0.025BTC fee....  I'll be honest and say that I suggested that.  Until there is an automated system that only needs to be reviewed occasionally, trades are going to have to be handled manually.  Between co-ordinating the emails, verifying signatures, re-requesting invalid signatures, hand-holding the users who don't really understand signatures, making and double-checking the changes to the master list, I figure that each transaction is going to take me 5-10 minutes, probably more.  If there is a transaction for 2 bonds at 0.08BTC each, the 0.5% fee would be 0.0008BTC, or roughly 15 cents.  To be perfectly honest, I don't want to bother with small transactions.  (I know there are people who want small transactions, and I understand their frustration.  But my time is worth more than $2 an hour.) Setting a minimum fee makes it worth my while to process trades.  $5 didn't seem like an unreasonable number.

But, as above.  The process isn't final.  Should the fee be smaller?  How small?  $2 per transaction?  Maybe a flat fee for a transaction of any number of bonds?  Again - until an automated system is set up, this will be manual....

I'm trying to foster some discussion here, and hopefully get away from the surprise changes...  Smiley

grnbrg.

Yes, I understand your reasoning because of the manual work, and it's fair, I agree. If it is temporary in nature I don't have much of a problem with it. Even not with the amounts specified.

In my personal case, it just means I'll hold off buying small bonds until the automated system is present, or until I can buy lots (unlikely to happen first :p)

Change my mind, sounds reasonable.
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Great, more fees limiting liquidity. 0.025 fee on shares which are going for 0.05-0.07 right now.

You're only hurting the little guy who wishes to buy 1 or 2 shares at a time with a limited mining income.

I hope this is not the final solution as to how trading is going to happen?

I'd rather offer my developer services to create you a decent automated way Smiley

Umm, 0.5% fee is OK. But 0.025BTC min fee seems quite much.

Besides that, hope there's a solution working soon.
It's not final, @Lab_Rat is looking into automated solutions.  (And the nastyfans website looks kind of cool....)

* grnbrg takes off any sort of "official" LRM hat.  My thoughts here.....

As far as the 0.025BTC fee....  I'll be honest and say that I suggested that.  Until there is an automated system that only needs to be reviewed occasionally, trades are going to have to be handled manually.  Between co-ordinating the emails, verifying signatures, re-requesting invalid signatures, hand-holding the users who don't really understand signatures, making and double-checking the changes to the master list, I figure that each transaction is going to take me 5-10 minutes, probably more.  If there is a transaction for 2 bonds at 0.08BTC each, the 0.5% fee would be 0.0008BTC, or roughly 15 cents.  To be perfectly honest, I don't want to bother with small transactions.  (I know there are people who want small transactions, and I understand their frustration.  But my time is worth more than $2 an hour.) Setting a minimum fee makes it worth my while to process trades.  $5 didn't seem like an unreasonable number.

But, as above.  The process isn't final.  Should the fee be smaller?  How small?  $2 per transaction?  Maybe a flat fee for a transaction of any number of bonds?  Again - until an automated system is set up, this will be manual....

I'm trying to foster some discussion here, and hopefully get away from the surprise changes...  Smiley



grnbrg.

I don't think people should find it to be unfair if you or whoever is paid to do manual transactions for trades. Most brokerages, for example, charge a transaction fee (even if you trade one share).

A more legitimate complaint, I think, would be if fee's are taken from dividends to distribute dividends. There is already a 25% allotment of mined coins for any costs for fundamental LRM functions.


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Schindler's List? Or Santa's List? Wink

*anxiously awaits Lab_Rat's list as well*
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I'd fight Gandhi.
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I started on the list, got most of it done, but I don't want to put up a list that states "Haven't Received Verification" in a column where people may or may have not sent me an email already.  I'll finish it in the morning and post a link to it.

What about this list?
I would like to have some kind of confirmation that my mail was correct.  Wink
Same here. I am eagerly awaiting the creation of "The List".
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