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Sorry for the newb question, but I believe my address on bitfunder was one I created on my bitcoinqt wallet, does that mean it's one I can sign messages with?

It would be really great if someone could post a quick how-to so that everyone can check that they can do this before the shut-down, otherwise there will likely be many tears.

I am sadly too busy to do this, but am just throwing this out there as an invaluable suggestion...

I found this thread which breaks down the concept of signing a message. Unfortunately, the term "sign a message" is a little counter-intuitive. It should read "create a message signature". In essence, you use Bitcoin-QT or Blockchain.info or whatever client to generate a signature key for a specific BTC address AND the message associated with that address as it is typed in the message window. THEN you copy that information to an email, PM or whatever and send it. You do not send the message you generated the signature for from the client it was created in.

This thread is specific to blockchain.info but the concept is the same across all clients as it is a function of Bitcoin itself. Also - you can change the address associated with your bonds (shares or whatever) in Bitfunder. If you are one of those people who used an invalid address you should perhaps consider fixing it by editing your settings in Bitfunder. 

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/help-how-do-i-sign-a-message-using-my-blockchaininfo-address-180068

But it's secure due to the fact that if the message is changed it can't be verified...
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(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist...  Smiley


grnbrg.
lol we should all send that guy in CT some snail mail with a letter saying:

This is not a valid bitcoin address

Thanks,

The Internet


heheh Smiley
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So today, dividends go manual ?

Not by Bitfunder.
Right ?

LabRat, bring us some good news Wink
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Here's an example for people who want to track down how to sign and verify messages with Bitcoin address keys...

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Test message.  Ignore the dashes above and below when you copy and paste this to verify.

If you can verify this, you've probably figured out enough to sign messages with your own keys.
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Signed with:  1grnbrg3Ea4t6bxHvQKRvorbBeLNDXv2N

Signature:  HKT07NvQ31Mz3mpMUD+38RSnEPa0/HyrE0zx8qse5THhq3SDrsBHVLt+UogA1bsxqwy+MhYkRy1Uc+ph+627bXI=

Most clients are a bit clunky, but they get the job done.  You may just have to dig a bit....



grnbrg.


Works like a charm grnbrg! I took one space out of your message and it failed verification. Kind of an exacting process huh? (Just as I want it to be.)
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(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist...  Smiley
grnbrg.
A bit sad really that BitFunder couldn't do some basic address validation. Hell, a sprinkling of some regex would help with the most obvious of mistakes. Here, I'll get them started:
Code:
[13][1-9A-HJ-NP-Za-km-z]{20,40}

" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa" should be "1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa" after checking validity. Alright "birdy" fix your nest dude....

"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" should be "13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k" after checking validity. Don't you hate it when the type over function doesn't work right?
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Here's an example for people who want to track down how to sign and verify messages with Bitcoin address keys...

------------------
Test message.  Ignore the dashes above and below when you copy and paste this to verify.

If you can verify this, you've probably figured out enough to sign messages with your own keys.
------------------

Signed with:  1grnbrg3Ea4t6bxHvQKRvorbBeLNDXv2N

Signature:  HKT07NvQ31Mz3mpMUD+38RSnEPa0/HyrE0zx8qse5THhq3SDrsBHVLt+UogA1bsxqwy+MhYkRy1Uc+ph+627bXI=

Most clients are a bit clunky, but they get the job done.  You may just have to dig a bit....



grnbrg.
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(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist...  Smiley


grnbrg.

A bit sad really that BitFunder couldn't do some basic address validation. Hell, a sprinkling of some regex would help with the most obvious of mistakes. Here, I'll get them started:
Code:
[13][1-9A-HJ-NP-Za-km-z]{20,40}

BKM
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Sorry for the newb question, but I believe my address on bitfunder was one I created on my bitcoinqt wallet, does that mean it's one I can sign messages with?

It would be really great if someone could post a quick how-to so that everyone can check that they can do this before the shut-down, otherwise there will likely be many tears.

I am sadly too busy to do this, but am just throwing this out there as an invaluable suggestion...

I found this thread which breaks down the concept of signing a message. Unfortunately, the term "sign a message" is a little counter-intuitive. It should read "create a message signature". In essence, you use Bitcoin-QT or Blockchain.info or whatever client to generate a signature key for a specific BTC address AND the message associated with that address as it is typed in the message window. THEN you copy that information to an email, PM or whatever and send it. You do not send the message you generated the signature for from the client it was created in.

This thread is specific to blockchain.info but the concept is the same across all clients as it is a function of Bitcoin itself. Also - you can change the address associated with your bonds (shares or whatever) in Bitfunder. If you are one of those people who used an invalid address you should perhaps consider fixing it by editing your settings in Bitfunder. 

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/help-how-do-i-sign-a-message-using-my-blockchaininfo-address-180068
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Ok!  BitFunder's assetlist!

Thanks to @pacojones for providing the bandwidth.

http://bitfunder.firstitinc.com/asset-list/

The public key for verifying the signatures can be pulled off the nearest keyserver.



grnbrg.
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(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist...  Smiley


grnbrg.

Thanks, I rest my case!

That literally had me laughing out loud though, some of those are hilarious!  Cheesy

The one that's a fucking house address makes me want to go round and laugh at them in person! Please can someone go here?! http://tinyurl.com/k4xg664
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Official LRM shill

(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist...  Smiley


grnbrg.
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If anyone does not understand what private key are and how they are used they need to either read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin or 
step away from bitcoin and use their credit card.

They may need to, but that doesn't mean they will - never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate, and in fact, if we ever want it to go mainstream, this point needs to be emphasised! Though admittedly that will probably involve totally removing the need for any knowledge of the underlying cryptography or what a "private key" even is...  Roll Eyes
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If anyone does not understand what private key are and how they are used they need to either read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin or 
step away from bitcoin and use their credit card.
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I just sent you my private key and now my coins have vanished?  I don't understand what is happening....

Oh, don't mind that, that's just the idiocy tax..  Tongue

EDIT: In case anyone reading this doesn't realise, the above was a joke - DO NOT SEND ANYONE YOUR PRIVATE KEYS! (I really hope this was totally unnecessary but you never know in this community  Roll Eyes)
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I just sent you my private key and now my coins have vanished?  I don't understand what is happening....
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You can sign a block chain wallet by following the below link
Scroll to the bottom of the FAQ
https://blockchain.info/wallet/wallet-faq  

I think the BitcoinQT client has a option to sign a message as well

If anyone wants to just PM me their private key then I will sign transactions for them...  Wink  Grin
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You can sign a block chain wallet by following the below link
Scroll to the bottom of the FAQ
https://blockchain.info/wallet/wallet-faq 

I think the BitcoinQT client has a option to sign a message as well
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It looks like the person who was selling off is out of bonds, lol..  I really wish I had a way to buy those cheap bonds.. i wonder why they made it so USA people could sell, but not buy? doesn't make sense.. the only VPNs that I know of are from the usa, im sure there are some outside, but didn't have the time or energy to go do it. now, I regret it.. I mean, it will only take a few weeks of dividends of paying off some of those bonds that some of you picked up.. Thats what I dont get. selling at .05, I think it would have taken probably 8 weeks or so to get that back just in dividends..

Granted, the person may have been in a unique situation and had to sell, oh well, they can do with the shares as they wish..

I think it will be more difficult to buy/sell bonds over the next few weeks. THere are other alternatives out there. Just until Zach figures out how to best handle it.

BTW, the regular bitcoin-QT can send/receive messages, I even made a QT code with my address that has my name in it just for good measure.. I not 100 percent sure, but I THINK that blockchain.info wallets can send messages.. i know that you can have access to the private code on blockchain.info, so im pretty sure thats okay.

Jut make sure you can send a  message with your transaction, if you can, your good.. Ironically enough, with all the bitcoins that I have sent and received over the last few years, I have yet sent a message.....

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I actually received note from the person who did that last series of large sales.  Surprisingly enough it's a female. Rare in this community, but I find it funny everyone assumes that all in this community are males.

When I was typing the message it crossed my mind that I should be pc and write he or she, but laziness triumphed...

Anyway, it is puzzling that someone wants to get out so fast accepting such a loss. Especially that LabRat seems to be one of the strongest assets here and I am sure if you left it on Bitfunder, the price would completely recover in a day or two. It is really sad that the us government wants to kill everything it cannot fully control...and I understand that you have to move on.
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I wish Open-Transactions was more mature on the client side. I would have loved to see Lab_Rat moved onto Open-Transactions. I guess that maybe in a year that scenario might become much more realistic. Development is just not as fast as the upwind and the heat Bitcoin (ans similar concepts) is getting. Let's hope some major currency crisis in a cuntry bigger than Cyprus can wait just a little longer so we can grow the infrastrucure to handle the load.
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