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Topic: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement - page 227. (Read 452224 times)

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KNC still have units for shipping in November and at 550+Gh per $5k, I think we should be seriously considering purchasing some.

Lab_Rat what are your thoughts on KNC they seem to really know what they are doing in my opinion.

Sorry if this is old news, but have KNC actually shown a working (ASIC) prototype yet? And have they made any announcements on shipping, or are they just saying that everything is on schedule without giving any details?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JFOcI8nK2xI

Thanks very much, that's exactly what I hadn't seen!

A very impressive bit of kit, brilliant stuff. The video was excruciating to watch, but I'd rather they make terrible videos and great hardware... Does it run wirelessly then?! Their laptop showing the CGMiner output has no cables running to it!

The built in controller has all of the firmware/software to run the machine, so yes. They likely just connected to the IP and viewed the CGMiner output.

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I think its ironic that when KNC announced way back when, Josh said in the chat box "I don't think that KNC is out to rip people off, but no way will they deliver in time" lol, josh must think that every company is like BFL, lol... AT least KNC is honest and says that they will mine with their equipment. I believe they said they will mine 5 percent of what they have sold.. Thats only smart business, thats why Im 100 percent sure that BFL was mining with our equipment from the time they got boards in.. It's only common sense.. What they did with those coins is what was dishonest.. they should have given them to BFL's customers.

I dont think that there will be one equipment producer that wont mine. Heck, If I was making equipment, I would mine at least until I started to deliver. If they say they dont, they are most likely lying..

But im sure Josh is butt-hurt over this news......

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KNC still have units for shipping in November and at 550+Gh per $5k, I think we should be seriously considering purchasing some.

Lab_Rat what are your thoughts on KNC they seem to really know what they are doing in my opinion.

Sorry if this is old news, but have KNC actually shown a working (ASIC) prototype yet? And have they made any announcements on shipping, or are they just saying that everything is on schedule without giving any details?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JFOcI8nK2xI

Thanks very much, that's exactly what I hadn't seen!

A very impressive bit of kit, brilliant stuff. The video was excruciating to watch, but I'd rather they make terrible videos and great hardware... Does it run wirelessly then?! Their laptop showing the CGMiner output has no cables running to it!
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KNC still have units for shipping in November and at 550+Gh per $5k, I think we should be seriously considering purchasing some.

Lab_Rat what are your thoughts on KNC they seem to really know what they are doing in my opinion.

Sorry if this is old news, but have KNC actually shown a working (ASIC) prototype yet? And have they made any announcements on shipping, or are they just saying that everything is on schedule without giving any details?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JFOcI8nK2xI
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KNC still have units for shipping in November and at 550+Gh per $5k, I think we should be seriously considering purchasing some.

Lab_Rat what are your thoughts on KNC they seem to really know what they are doing in my opinion.

Sorry if this is old news, but have KNC actually shown a working (ASIC) prototype yet? And have they made any announcements on shipping, or are they just saying that everything is on schedule without giving any details?
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KNC still have units for shipping in November and at 550+Gh per $5k, I think we should be seriously considering purchasing some.

Lab_Rat what are your thoughts on KNC they seem to really know what they are doing in my opinion.
Maybe he'll get banned from the BFL offices is he does  Cheesy
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KNC still have units for shipping in November and at 550+Gh per $5k, I think we should be seriously considering purchasing some.

Lab_Rat what are your thoughts on KNC they seem to really know what they are doing in my opinion.
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NEWS REGARDING OTHER MANUFACTURERS
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If people want my opinion on which 28nm company will deliver on time (or even at all) it will likely be CoinTerra, which is why I'm interested in remaining in contact with them.

-Lab_Rat

LabRat, you must take a look to KNCminer....

They are the first in 28nm era...the FIRST
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Hey lab_Rat,

Can you confirm if you are going to scoop 2 weeks of BTC for all new hardware arriving or will it just be for this next delivery?
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Can you please tell us the total hashing power after the extra dividend witholding - most people assumed it would be taking us to somewhere around the 40Th mark but your previous posts seem to indicate only around 30Th.

It will likely be between 30 and 34 TH after the 2 week withholding.  It was looking like it would be around 40TH, but there was an unfortunate miscommunication between Dave and I that resulted in this.  With the 2 week withholding, it will allow us to push past 40TH very quickly though as I will be reinvesting a significant amount early on to fight the difficulty.

EDIT: I would like to point out that (34TH * .75) / 51,707 = 493MH/s per bond though.  I consider that a great success over initial estimates.

It will be a success in the MH sense, but keep in mind 100MH/bond cost people that bought bonds from BTC1.5/GH to BTC2.5/GH. That's in the range of $150 to $250/GH if bought when BTC was at $100. Bond buyers didn't expected 100MH to be the case for long. But, yes, 493MH/bond will be much nicer than 100MH/bond - especially if it was online now. Cool

Remember you are effectively paying nothing as long as the share price stays at the rate at which you purchased and you can find a buyer.

That's a good point. But one that depends on sustainability... it will be interesting to see how that goes.

For bonds at BTC0.15. At ~500MH/bond, that's will be about BTC0.3/GH ($42/GH). Hardware available now retails at $20/GH. So then, by November bonds would be about double the nominal retail rate. But hardware coming on the scene in January will retail at $3/GH (or BTC0.021/GH) how long will it take to bring that bond price/GH proportionately into alignment to $6/GH (or BTC0.042/GH)  by January with the re-investment plan? Assuming a flat bitcoin price, I think that means January bonds will need to be representing about 1.25GH/bond to be on par (+750MH/bond). That would require .75GH * $3/GH = $2.25 invested per bond. Currently, 25% of what is mined each week is about 8 cent per bond minus Labrat fee's and other expenses. Let's say 5 cent/bond - that would be 45 weeks required. But take the two weeks of scooped away dividends and increased mining rate and increased difficulty..where will LRM be in January compared to November? It might work out.
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493 MH/s per bond is great.  Keep up the good work Lab_Rat.

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Can you please tell us the total hashing power after the extra dividend witholding - most people assumed it would be taking us to somewhere around the 40Th mark but your previous posts seem to indicate only around 30Th.

It will likely be between 30 and 34 TH after the 2 week withholding.  It was looking like it would be around 40TH, but there was an unfortunate miscommunication between Dave and I that resulted in this.  With the 2 week withholding, it will allow us to push past 40TH very quickly though as I will be reinvesting a significant amount early on to fight the difficulty.

EDIT: I would like to point out that (34TH * .75) / 51,707 = 493MH/s per bond though.  I consider that a great success over initial estimates.

It will be a success in the MH sense, but keep in mind 100MH/bond cost people that bought bonds from BTC1.5/GH to BTC2.5/GH. That's in the range of $150 to $250/GH if bought when BTC was at $100. Bond buyers didn't expected 100MH to be the case for long. But, yes, 493MH/bond will be much nicer than 100MH/bond - especially if it was online now. Cool

Remember you are effectively paying nothing as long as the share price stays at the rate at which you purchased and you can find a buyer.
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Can you please tell us the total hashing power after the extra dividend witholding - most people assumed it would be taking us to somewhere around the 40Th mark but your previous posts seem to indicate only around 30Th.

It will likely be between 30 and 34 TH after the 2 week withholding.  It was looking like it would be around 40TH, but there was an unfortunate miscommunication between Dave and I that resulted in this.  With the 2 week withholding, it will allow us to push past 40TH very quickly though as I will be reinvesting a significant amount early on to fight the difficulty.

EDIT: I would like to point out that (34TH * .75) / 51,707 = 493MH/s per bond though.  I consider that a great success over initial estimates.

It will be a success in the MH sense, but keep in mind 100MH/bond cost people that bought bonds from BTC1.5/GH to BTC2.5/GH. That's in the range of $150 to $250/GH if bought when BTC was at $100. Bond buyers didn't expected 100MH to be the case for long. But, yes, 493MH/bond will be much nicer than 100MH/bond - especially if it was online now. Cool
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Also, we were a lot luckier the week before.. It will get better... at roughly 5.1 ths (remember, running at 100 percent uptime is very difficult to do) at todays difficulty should bring in about 120 coins over 7 days, thats running at 5.1ths and 100 percent uptime.. So, if no shares are sold between now and next week and the hashrate stays at 5.1ths, we should expect pretty close to what we got today.. (I think my math was right)

Getting close enough to 100% uptime isn't that hard to do when you're doing it full time as long as people who own these pools stop screwing around for a full week haha.  BTCGuild appears to have gotten some minor work done, so I'm not sure if this dip was from a pool restart or an attack.

Have you considered using p2pool as a backup?  It's harder to take p2pool down with ddos attacks.
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Can you please tell us the total hashing power after the extra dividend witholding - most people assumed it would be taking us to somewhere around the 40Th mark but your previous posts seem to indicate only around 30Th.

It will likely be between 30 and 34 TH after the 2 week withholding.  It was looking like it would be around 40TH, but there was an unfortunate miscommunication between Dave and I that resulted in this.  With the 2 week withholding, it will allow us to push past 40TH very quickly though as I will be reinvesting a significant amount early on to fight the difficulty.

EDIT: I would like to point out that (34TH * .75) / 51,707 = 493MH/s per bond though.  I consider that a great success over initial estimates.
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From my understanding WITHOUT the dividends we are giving up, we should be around 30ths (maybe a little less) but since we are giving up the dividends, that should raise it considerably. I think its unknown where we will be after the dividends are spent on hashrate since 1. we dont know the exact amount and 2. lab rat is probably working out the details.. Ill let Lab rat come and clarify, but thats how I see it. Could you please clarify this Lab rat?
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Can you please tell us the total hashing power after the extra dividend witholding - most people assumed it would be taking us to somewhere around the 40Th mark but your previous posts seem to indicate only around 30Th.
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Also, we were a lot luckier the week before.. It will get better... at roughly 5.1 ths (remember, running at 100 percent uptime is very difficult to do) at todays difficulty should bring in about 120 coins over 7 days, thats running at 5.1ths and 100 percent uptime.. So, if no shares are sold between now and next week and the hashrate stays at 5.1ths, we should expect pretty close to what we got today.. (I think my math was right)

Getting close enough to 100% uptime isn't that hard to do when you're doing it full time as long as people who own these pools stop screwing around for a full week haha.  BTCGuild appears to have gotten some minor work done, so I'm not sure if this dip was from a pool restart or an attack.
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!?! the dividends decreased ?

Slightly, and as expected, yes. But not for much longer though, sit tight...  Tongue

Yes, the issues with James' pool on 9/22-23 that resulted in the hop to btcguild hurt a little, then there's a time delay in receiving mined coins so it did drop a little bit, but more hashrate has been added, and (as long as BTC Guild stops acting up like it has been tonight) we should see some excellent dividends this week.  ~5.6TH currently and I have it balanced between James' and BTC Guild.
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It'll be nice if the exchange rate for bitcoin pops before Labrat orders anything, and stays up when using the scooped up dividends next month.
The price pattern for bitcoin is looking nice on the chart, so far.

Assuming he orders in fiat, not BTC?

Not sure how likely this is.

Equipment is priced in fiat, but he has in the past held funds in bitcoin until paying.

Correct
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