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Topic: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement - page 40. (Read 452170 times)

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Maybe the problem of contracts exchange can be implemented with a coloredcoin??

https://www.coinprism.com/

Regards



Isn't the term "colored coin" kind of racist?
Did you read what this colored coins are?, I think the racism is in your head if you read "colored" and you think in black or yellow and as a offense, but if you think in fuchsia pink? there is a race you can insult calling them pink?

How many different colors can a screen show? millions? Tell me how can you differentiate an object from another? maybe the color? maybe the form? but our form is the bitcoin, so I think call it colored is a good way, maybe you can create some coins with the color LostDutchman, it is only a qualifying adjective. You are LostDutchman and I'm vitruvio, you are different to me, am I racist because that?.

Regards


 
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Maybe the problem of contracts exchange can be implemented with a coloredcoin??

https://www.coinprism.com/

Regards



Isn't the term "colored coin" kind of racist?

You're really reaching now in attempts to stir the pot....

I can't stand black coffee.

Is that racist?



grnbrg.

TIL that objects (tangible or not) not just peoples are also a race.
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Official LRM shill
Maybe the problem of contracts exchange can be implemented with a coloredcoin??

https://www.coinprism.com/

Regards



Isn't the term "colored coin" kind of racist?

You're really reaching now in attempts to stir the pot....

I can't stand black coffee.

Is that racist?



grnbrg.
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An independent miner.
NXT has it's decentralized asset exchange working in the latest clients. Counterparty is pretty far along too.
sr. member
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Maybe the problem of contracts exchange can be implemented with a coloredcoin??

https://www.coinprism.com/

Regards



Isn't the term "colored coin" kind of racist?
sr. member
Activity: 850
Merit: 331
Maybe the problem of contracts exchange can be implemented with a coloredcoin??

https://www.coinprism.com/

Regards

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4-5 months migraine it seems..
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Didn't Zack say he was going to put a Dividend breakdown up on sunday?
 
He was suffering from a nasty migraine and probably still suffering now... Huh
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Didn't Zack say he was going to put a Dividend breakdown up on sunday?
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Can you try to work on Zach PR skills, can he at least replies the emails, update the lists, inform if he gets our requests to change contracts, at least look alive?
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Official LRM shill
you forget your 2 cents !

No I didn't.

I got tired of "certain" people whining about my little clsoing tag and screwing up threads just because they had found an excuse to do so, so I dropped it.

Freaking whiners, anyway!

lol

Oh, the drama.

:popcorn:



grnbrg.

(Who also hand-types his closing tag on every message.  Tongue)
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you forget your 2 cents !

No I didn't.

I got tired of "certain" people whining about my little clsoing tag and screwing up threads just because they had found an excuse to do so, so I dropped it.

Freaking whiners, anyway!
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you forget your 2 cents !
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Bear in mind, exchange of any type = publicly traded, and LRM don't want that.

How public is public though?  This forum is public and shares/bonds/contracts are trading here already.

Edit:  LR has also indicated someone was working on an exchange at some point, so he's not totally against the idea.

From what I've pieced together, the contracts now look "legal" (although very difficult to valuate) and are clean. He's legally allowed to sell them to anyone. Once you own them, they are your property and you can sell them to someone else (within some limits so you don't draw attention to yourself as selling unregistered securities). However, running something that is an exchange (centralized place where people can trade contracts) requires more regulations. He doesn't want to get involved with that. Whether it's public or not doesn't matter, any centralized market is a regulatory liability for the operator. That's why it appears his lawyer is ok with someone else setting it up an exchange in a permissive jurisdiction. There is some regulatory liability placed on participants in the market, especially if you are a large holder of shares (selling unregistered securities), but that is kind of a stretch and might not be worth anyone from the SEC's time to look into.

Two things LRM contracts need, in order to have any value in the future, are a working exchange and enough information for people to value how much shares are really worth. Well, in theory, LRM only needs to have a way of accurately assigning value to shares (since that will allow direct, one-time, sales), the exchange is icing and will increase the value of the direct, one-time sales.

" Once you own them, they are your property and you can sell them to someone else (within some limits so you don't draw attention to yourself as selling unregistered securities)."

Are Lab_Rat's contracts "registered" with anyone?

I don't think so, so what difference would it make what you do with your own property?

Because it becomes really close to being a security:

Quote
The term ‘‘security’’ means any note, stock, treasury
stock, security future, security-based swap, bond, debenture,
evidence of indebtedness, certificate of interest or participation
in any profit-sharing agreement, collateral-trust certificate,
preorganization certificate or subscription, transferable share,
investment contract, voting-trust certificate, certificate of de-
posit for a security, fractional undivided interest in oil, gas, or
other mineral rights, any put, call, straddle, option, or privilege
on any security, certificate of deposit, or group or index of secu-
rities (including any interest therein or based on the value
thereof), or any put, call, straddle, option, or privilege entered
into on a national securities exchange relating to foreign cur-
rency, or, in general, any interest or instrument commonly
known as a ‘‘security’’, or any certificate of interest or partici-
pation in, temporary or interim certificate for, receipt for, guar-
antee of, or warrant or right to subscribe to or purchase, any
of the foregoing.

 - you start to push a gray area between a hardware contract and a security (as a profit sharing agreement). You are not free to sell securities however you'd like, even though they are your property.

Thank you for your post and I could not have said it better myself!

I was hoping someone like you would come in with almost exactly what you posted because if I had, I would get pilloried.

You are 100% spot on!

Those selling "contracts", "securities", "bonds" and simialr stuff are soon to have very rude awakenings I think as the goernment continues its War On Bitcoin!
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Activity: 454
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Bear in mind, exchange of any type = publicly traded, and LRM don't want that.

How public is public though?  This forum is public and shares/bonds/contracts are trading here already.

Edit:  LR has also indicated someone was working on an exchange at some point, so he's not totally against the idea.

From what I've pieced together, the contracts now look "legal" (although very difficult to valuate) and are clean. He's legally allowed to sell them to anyone. Once you own them, they are your property and you can sell them to someone else (within some limits so you don't draw attention to yourself as selling unregistered securities). However, running something that is an exchange (centralized place where people can trade contracts) requires more regulations. He doesn't want to get involved with that. Whether it's public or not doesn't matter, any centralized market is a regulatory liability for the operator. That's why it appears his lawyer is ok with someone else setting it up an exchange in a permissive jurisdiction. There is some regulatory liability placed on participants in the market, especially if you are a large holder of shares (selling unregistered securities), but that is kind of a stretch and might not be worth anyone from the SEC's time to look into.

Two things LRM contracts need, in order to have any value in the future, are a working exchange and enough information for people to value how much shares are really worth. Well, in theory, LRM only needs to have a way of accurately assigning value to shares (since that will allow direct, one-time, sales), the exchange is icing and will increase the value of the direct, one-time sales.

" Once you own them, they are your property and you can sell them to someone else (within some limits so you don't draw attention to yourself as selling unregistered securities)."

Are Lab_Rat's contracts "registered" with anyone?

I don't think so, so what difference would it make what you do with your own property?

Because it becomes really close to being a security:

Quote
The term ‘‘security’’ means any note, stock, treasury
stock, security future, security-based swap, bond, debenture,
evidence of indebtedness, certificate of interest or participation
in any profit-sharing agreement, collateral-trust certificate,
preorganization certificate or subscription, transferable share,
investment contract, voting-trust certificate, certificate of de-
posit for a security, fractional undivided interest in oil, gas, or
other mineral rights, any put, call, straddle, option, or privilege
on any security, certificate of deposit, or group or index of secu-
rities (including any interest therein or based on the value
thereof), or any put, call, straddle, option, or privilege entered
into on a national securities exchange relating to foreign cur-
rency, or, in general, any interest or instrument commonly
known as a ‘‘security’’, or any certificate of interest or partici-
pation in, temporary or interim certificate for, receipt for, guar-
antee of, or warrant or right to subscribe to or purchase, any
of the foregoing.

 - you start to push a gray area between a hardware contract and a security (as a profit sharing agreement). You are not free to sell securities however you'd like, even though they are your property.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
Bear in mind, exchange of any type = publicly traded, and LRM don't want that.

How public is public though?  This forum is public and shares/bonds/contracts are trading here already.

Edit:  LR has also indicated someone was working on an exchange at some point, so he's not totally against the idea.

From what I've pieced together, the contracts now look "legal" (although very difficult to valuate) and are clean. He's legally allowed to sell them to anyone. Once you own them, they are your property and you can sell them to someone else (within some limits so you don't draw attention to yourself as selling unregistered securities). However, running something that is an exchange (centralized place where people can trade contracts) requires more regulations. He doesn't want to get involved with that. Whether it's public or not doesn't matter, any centralized market is a regulatory liability for the operator. That's why it appears his lawyer is ok with someone else setting it up an exchange in a permissive jurisdiction. There is some regulatory liability placed on participants in the market, especially if you are a large holder of shares (selling unregistered securities), but that is kind of a stretch and might not be worth anyone from the SEC's time to look into.

Two things LRM contracts need, in order to have any value in the future, are a working exchange and enough information for people to value how much shares are really worth. Well, in theory, LRM only needs to have a way of accurately assigning value to shares (since that will allow direct, one-time, sales), the exchange is icing and will increase the value of the direct, one-time sales.

" Once you own them, they are your property and you can sell them to someone else (within some limits so you don't draw attention to yourself as selling unregistered securities)."

Are Lab_Rat's contracts "registered" with anyone?

I don't think so, so what difference would it make what you do with your own property?
sr. member
Activity: 454
Merit: 252
Bear in mind, exchange of any type = publicly traded, and LRM don't want that.

How public is public though?  This forum is public and shares/bonds/contracts are trading here already.

Edit:  LR has also indicated someone was working on an exchange at some point, so he's not totally against the idea.

From what I've pieced together, the contracts now look "legal" (although very difficult to valuate) and are clean. He's legally allowed to sell them to anyone. Once you own them, they are your property and you can sell them to someone else (within some limits so you don't draw attention to yourself as selling unregistered securities). However, running something that is an exchange (centralized place where people can trade contracts) requires more regulations. He doesn't want to get involved with that. Whether it's public or not doesn't matter, any centralized market is a regulatory liability for the operator. That's why it appears his lawyer is ok with someone else setting it up an exchange in a permissive jurisdiction. There is some regulatory liability placed on participants in the market, especially if you are a large holder of shares (selling unregistered securities), but that is kind of a stretch and might not be worth anyone from the SEC's time to look into.

Two things LRM contracts need, in order to have any value in the future, are a working exchange and enough information for people to value how much shares are really worth. Well, in theory, LRM only needs to have a way of accurately assigning value to shares (since that will allow direct, one-time, sales), the exchange is icing and will increase the value of the direct, one-time sales.
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Bear in mind, exchange of any type = publicly traded, and LRM don't want that.

How public is public though?  This forum is public and shares/bonds/contracts are trading here already.

Edit:  LR has also indicated someone was working on an exchange at some point, so he's not totally against the idea.
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Merit: 500
Hodl!
Bear in mind, exchange of any type = publicly traded, and LRM don't want that.
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So it sounds like we're only getting an exchange if we set it up ourselves.  I'm thinking colored coins is probably the best way to go about it.  Thoughts?
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