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Topic: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement - page 82. (Read 452170 times)

hero member
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"Working on it"

"Working on it"

I've been extremely busy but have been keeping up on the forums.  I was supposed to have a meeting with the lawyer yesterday, but he had a health emergency.  Today I may or may not have more info.
Ah, glad to see you haven't disappeared!

lol... sorry, I don't know why... but that's so funny to me right now.
legendary
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I'd fight Gandhi.
"Working on it"

"Working on it"

I've been extremely busy but have been keeping up on the forums.  I was supposed to have a meeting with the lawyer yesterday, but he had a health emergency.  Today I may or may not have more info.
Ah, glad to see you haven't disappeared!
sr. member
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"Working on it"

"Working on it"

I've been extremely busy but have been keeping up on the forums.  I was supposed to have a meeting with the lawyer yesterday, but he had a health emergency.  Today I may or may not have more info.

Thank you.
full member
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Thanks for the update @Lab_Rat.
hero member
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Token/ICO management
"Working on it"

"Working on it"

I've been extremely busy but have been keeping up on the forums.  I was supposed to have a meeting with the lawyer yesterday, but he had a health emergency.  Today I may or may not have more info.
sr. member
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Same fucking shit as always, flurry of posts one day then Silence. How goddamn hard is it to stop in and say "Working on it" so frustrating.
newbie
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tick.. tock... tick... tock...

Time marches on, difficulty increases.....,

Answers please?
full member
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THX for the links. Seems to suck. Let's see what happens.

Edit: Bad typos as usual
hero member
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My concern is that LR proposes a new agreement to replace the old whereby the new one has no guarantee of honoring the spirit of the old agreement. And becomes a matter of pure trust that LR will honor the spirit of the actual agreement. In other words, the black and white should spell out terms that end up with the same necessary effect as the original agreement.

Also, I wonder when he's going to inform us of the 156TH of Bitfury hardware that was ordered and should have already been received. Whose mining with it? Dave Carlson? Merlin Kaufman? Walt Whitman?... Walter White?
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OK I seem to have missed several pages here. Could someone please point me to the relevant LRM post about these regulatory issues. I gather there isn't much but anyway... THX
hero member
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Official LRM shill
I felt this might be slightly relevant while being highly amusing.



In a similar vein:  




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grnbrg.
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I felt this might be slightly relevant while being highly amusing.

hero member
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Ohhhh look LRM sharesbondsnotsomuchholders waiting for some answers by LabRat! ==>

sr. member
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I think speculating on what might be a completely fake and bogus story is pointless.

What people need to know is what LRM is doing with the new hardware.  If that hardware is not distributed to the bond holders as agreed, then lawsuits should happen.  I only invested a handful of coins, so I'm not going after him.  It wouldn't be worth it.  Those of you though that spent thousands should reach out to your lawyers to discuss options and see if it's worthwhile to go after him.  (It may not be.) 

If, on the other hand, LabRat comes in here and says that he's going to start distributing the new hardware profits to the bond holders as agreed, then there isn't any reason for a lawsuit.

So really, it comes down to that more than anything else.  Maintaining silence after we know he's received the hardware means he intends to keep it for himself, and so should be sued.  It's pretty cut and dry.  The rest of the speculation is interesting but does shareholders little good.

totally agree - you are hitting the important point, the only one that matters. I've written exactly what you've said in the past - as long as people get what they paid for, everything is fine.

However, it's been months of radio silence - so random interesting speculation is as helpful as blank computer screens, just more entertaining.
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I think speculating on what might be a completely fake and bogus story is pointless.

What people need to know is what LRM is doing with the new hardware.  If that hardware is not distributed to the bond holders as agreed, then lawsuits should happen.  I only invested a handful of coins, so I'm not going after him.  It wouldn't be worth it.  Those of you though that spent thousands should reach out to your lawyers to discuss options and see if it's worthwhile to go after him.  (It may not be.) 

If, on the other hand, LabRat comes in here and says that he's going to start distributing the new hardware profits to the bond holders as agreed, then there isn't any reason for a lawsuit.

So really, it comes down to that more than anything else.  Maintaining silence after we know he's received the hardware means he intends to keep it for himself, and so should be sued.  It's pretty cut and dry.  The rest of the speculation is interesting but does shareholders little good.
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Why should we, as bitcoiners show such great respect for regulations which are unfair to us and pushed by people who are corrupted by lobbyist money?

This is extremely unfair. What if the US gov says that every bitcoin miner is now illegal and should be destroyed by burning in a big pile, will Labrat just pile them all up and burn them?

for all we know, this is as much an IRS thing as a fincen/sec/whatever.

Here's some more sausage, because it's fun to make up stories:

March 15 is the business filing day in the US. Perhaps as he prepared taxes several things showed up.

His LLC equity far exceeds capital contributions. The money had to come from somewhere. It either came from sales of services/goods, sale of equity, or sale of bonds/loans. When LR started the company, he didn't want to sell fixed rate contracts (that eliminated sale of "services"), definitely didn't want to give up equity, so said he was selling "bonds." When accountants saw that, and saw that the bonds were not backed by anything nor where there any promissory notes or other necessary documents, they realized he was running outside of the rules of taxes. Tax lawyers may have told him that he really needs to sell something "concrete" or sell equity (but equity is very complicated and he losses control, but it would allow investors to maintain a growing share of the company).

I still think this may have nothing to do with bitcoin regulation but instead something to do with LR not knowing how to run a business or a security. He essentially promised people equity (a share in growing proceeds from the operation including investment of retained earnings), but declined to give them equity.

+1
sr. member
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Why should we, as bitcoiners show such great respect for regulations which are unfair to us and pushed by people who are corrupted by lobbyist money?

This is extremely unfair. What if the US gov says that every bitcoin miner is now illegal and should be destroyed by burning in a big pile, will Labrat just pile them all up and burn them?

for all we know, this is as much an IRS thing as a fincen/sec/whatever.

Here's some more sausage, because it's fun to make up stories:

March 15 is the business filing day in the US. Perhaps as he prepared taxes several things showed up.

His LLC equity far exceeds capital contributions. The money had to come from somewhere. It either came from sales of services/goods, sale of equity, or sale of bonds/loans. When LR started the company, he didn't want to sell fixed rate contracts (that eliminated sale of "services"), definitely didn't want to give up equity, so said he was selling "bonds." When accountants saw that, and saw that the bonds were not backed by anything nor where there any promissory notes or other necessary documents, they realized he was running outside of the rules of taxes. Tax lawyers may have told him that he really needs to sell something "concrete" or sell equity (but equity is very complicated and he losses control, but it would allow investors to maintain a growing share of the company).

I still think this may have nothing to do with bitcoin regulation but instead something to do with LR not knowing how to run a business or a security. He essentially promised people equity (a share in growing proceeds from the operation including investment of retained earnings), but declined to give them equity.
member
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Why should we, as bitcoiners show such great respect for regulations which are unfair to us and pushed by people who are corrupted by lobbyist money?

This is extremely unfair. What if the US gov says that every bitcoin miner is now illegal and should be destroyed by burning in a big pile, will Labrat just pile them all up and burn them?

Not sure what you are getting at...

Why should we... get information on what is happening?
- Well, our paid for bonds and agreement with LRM is why we should have more information on the seemingly non-advantagous to the bond holders change to the original agreement and hint to some kind of recompense...

Why should we... continue to ask for more information?
- None has presented itself yet other then the change to the original agreement for "legal reasons" with no detail or further information.

Why should we... "fill in your question here"
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