Topic: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) - page 435. (Read 1079974 times)

I'm not claiming they're mining on a large scale, I'm just saying that the most plausible scenario for removing chips from the tray is to mine with those chips, After all, that's what they're designed for.

I got a feeling things are going to get a lot worse before it possibly gets better for Labcoin.. 6 weeks of silence until end of October? 

Thank you for taking the time to provide some usable information. Similar to the thoughts put forward in the reddit thread. In a way, it is good news. It gives an explanation for why they haven't been able to put together a functioning miner. Not good that they won't admit it though.

Come on Mabsark you little liar. Stand up and explain how you are the biggest cheerleader for this company but you haven't even read POST 1 on PAGE 1.

You have been found out now you go quiet hoping this will blow over. Mr Labcoin himself and he doesn't know the very BASICS. I won't let the investors you are hoping to rip off come November miss this. This shattering reveal will not be forgotten.

Man if you were just an ordinary Joe this would be a joke but you are the biggest shouter on this whole thread! And on the actm thread you don't stop mentioning LC! Biggest joker on this forum BAR NONE.

It might be good to stop this "black and white" thinking.

There are several nuances between "Labcoin is not hashing at all" and "Labcoin mines on a large scale". They say they are at an experimental stage, they say they are hashing and optimizing and we also know they are not yet on a productional scale.

Edit:


There is acutally another picture:


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3148724


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3148974

I should add that the tray looks oddly 1 dimensional.  Does anyone else notice this?  It looks like it was painted onto the white table (or poorly photoshopped on)

I think it's just as likely that the missing chips are being used for mining as they are not.
There is no valid argument either way.  They are just missing chips.

If Labcoin aren't hashing, then why are some chips missing from the tray?



The obvious reason for those chips being missing is because they are being mined with. It's funny the way none of you FUDsters can come up with a logical argument against this.

Cheap shares yum!

There are no vias on the picture they sent.

Check out a photo of Terrahash Avalon clone boards....they look similar but have a few more components.
http://www.btcpedia.com/terrahash-avalon-asic-bitcoin-miner/

These are very basic "boards" shown, I'm guessing FR4 0.062" standard 2-4 layer boards.

Based on the reference designs I've seen so far I'm thinking they are just 2 layer, this isn't rocket science.

There is no pcb designer in the world that would decide to route every single one of his traces inside the board through the ground plane shown on the top surface using vias. That would mean that all smd components would have to be mounted on the backside of the board.

The only reason we route certain signals to different internal layers is to surround the signal trace with a ground plane to reduce noise, or if the physical real estate is just too tight to get a signal where it needs to go.

Someone else mentioned....as a minimum you need decoupling caps close to the power/ground inputs on any chips...as close as possible. Usually I would put them tight to the chip, within 10mm is a general rule. So they decided to put those caps on the backside? Strangest design ever.

Anyone who has worked with pcb design knows this is garbage.
This looks like what happens the first time you send off a design to a pcb house and get back a pile of unusable laughable crap.
That's what I'm guessing happened here...one of their so called engineers learning to use Eagle for the first time and made a big mistake.


  
 

All this speculation about the PCBs, which is hurting the share price, could be ended with a photo of an assembled and working board.

Why they won't show such a thing is a complete mystery.

Labcoin gerber file image:

Beats me dude.  If I were them I would definitely share more technical information. I guess they want to avoid giving the FUDsters more fuel to make up b.s. but I think that's the wrong strategy.  

My recommendation would be to give out the gerber files for these boards so everyone can see how they work.

Anyway, I've got stuff to do, so won't be able to post for a while.

yes, of course you can, but their board is like the open desert. you can place the vias everywhere, so why use costly micro-vias when you could just place the vias beneath the pads. only thing i could think about are thermal optimations, but then thats the wrong package.

You can make them pretty small:








What labcoin would need to do at this point is give out the gerber files for the PCB.  Amazingly they've just decided not to show any more pictures at all, which is complete B.S. 

I completely agree they are destroying their share price long term with this "communications strategy" - no one is going to trust their future statements going forward when good news comes out.

COMPLETELY LEGIT!!!!

TO DA MOON!

JESUS H CHRIST Mabsark - you are the biggest cheerleader on here and have been putting 5 posts per page up today screaming about how good Labcoin is but you are not even familiar with their own IPO post on page 1!!!!!

I'm not a LC investor and even I knew where that pic came from! How the fuck do you expect people to accept your word on the future success of this company when you haven't done the most elementary  research yourself?? If you really backed the long term prospects of this company you would know the details of page 1 inside out.

Seriously you must be bright red right now.

This means ONE important thing. You do NOT back this company hard on here because you have done the research and think it is viable, you back it solely because this is where your money is right now and you want a quick buck off the back of investors - that you are lying to.

PEOPLE - please realise that this guy Mabsark will say ANYTHING to get you to keep your money in this stock because he has his btc in it - and almost everything he says about LC he doesn't actually believe himself. He's a liar and has been found out. What a joker huh.

but to place a via you have to drill through the board, so it is not possible (nor it shows great routing skills) to place a via under every pad, because drill diameter is bigger than the ~0.3mm width of the smd pads.

See here, the chips have been mounted on the board.  Pay no attention to the silica flakes in the foreground. 
Where's my beer?

Yes, trace means the  metal connecting electrical paths on the circuitboards.  The reason you can't see all of them is because they are multiple layers, so some of them are hidden.  Between the layers there are vias that connect the layers.  That's why if you look at a bitfury board, you can't see any links between the chips and the capacitors or anything else:



As far as the pins on the package vs. the number of pads, that's how most chips are.  Here's an actual photo of the Avalon die:



from here As you can see, there are tons of pads around the outside of the chip, yet the external package has just 48 pins:



I'm not trying to defend Labcoin here, but I'm just completely amazed at how bad some of the "technical analysis" that's going on in this thread is.