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member
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Merit: 10
November 20, 2013, 12:00:34 PM
#42
What is the latest progress? Evidence collection? Or what?

We are still collecting evidence and organizing it for the complaint, every day there is coming in new evidence and more people joining us, we like to make the complaint as complete as possible before we submit it. We are in the final stage of finalizing the contract with the lawyer, and when that is done there will be an announcement made how to proceed by LCSH, our official Labcoin Share Holders Representative Group informations account.

Thank you for your support.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
November 20, 2013, 05:59:50 AM
#41
I'm in with you guys, I've only 720 shares but I live in Italy and I can help you alot with this job.

It's not so hard to hire a private investigator and get all the information you may need, you can also hire him locally and spend way less than having a trip here.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
November 19, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
#40
What is the latest progress? Evidence collection? Or what?
sr. member
Activity: 457
Merit: 250
November 19, 2013, 05:25:10 PM
#39
625 shares. Eh, not much but I support the efforts.
newbie
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Merit: 0
November 19, 2013, 04:09:10 AM
#38
25k share
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
November 19, 2013, 03:46:29 AM
#37
18K shares!
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Dumb broad
November 19, 2013, 01:50:51 AM
#36
Great work VSpade.

As BTC worth increases this fraud becomes greater and greater...7000btc now worth nearly 5.5M Gox bux....I'm sure Alberto(whoever) is simultaneously feeling elated about the haul but anxious because as BTC grows so does the magnitude of his crime.

Worth noting that the fraud is not amounting to 7000 BTCs anymore. That amount was for 7.000.000 shares. Since they sold 1.24M shares, the stolen amount is now more in the order of 8400 BTCs (if sold @ IPO price - it is most likely to have been sold at higher rate).

True. Plus all the dividend payments that have not been released.
sr. member
Activity: 393
Merit: 250
November 18, 2013, 07:00:47 PM
#35
Great work VSpade.

As BTC worth increases this fraud becomes greater and greater...7000btc now worth nearly 5.5M Gox bux....I'm sure Alberto(whoever) is simultaneously feeling elated about the haul but anxious because as BTC grows so does the magnitude of his crime.

Worth noting that the fraud is not amounting to 7000 BTCs anymore. That amount was for 7.000.000 shares. Since they sold 1.24M shares, the stolen amount is now more in the order of 8400 BTCs (if sold @ IPO price - it is most likely to have been sold at higher rate).
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Dumb broad
November 18, 2013, 06:55:23 PM
#34
Great work VSpade.

As BTC worth increases this fraud becomes greater and greater...7000btc now worth nearly 5.5M Gox bux....I'm sure Alberto(whoever) is simultaneously feeling elated about the haul but anxious because as BTC grows so does the magnitude of his crime.
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
November 18, 2013, 11:50:43 AM
#33
Pm sent to GTR_JOEY, yellowli, pbbhopp, kingfzero, dadaguo and 8 other who has joined us today.

Anyone who likes to join us PM me here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/virtualspade-144825

We have gathered a lot of information and are sorting through it now, there will be an update coming, we just don't want to give to much information out to Alberto what we know.

Not that it matters that he knows what we know since he going to jail and there is NOTHING he can do about that.

over 2.4 million share supporting this action now.
newbie
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November 18, 2013, 11:17:16 AM
#32
support here~~21K
newbie
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November 18, 2013, 09:01:19 AM
#31
I'm supporting too. My 70K.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
November 18, 2013, 07:42:45 AM
#30
I'm supporting too. My 20k shares are not many, but it is something Smiley VirtualSpade, Do I need to PM you something ? I'm ready to pay some BTC for justice. Grin
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
November 18, 2013, 04:35:00 AM
#29
I wish I could participate in, but I was in China, I only had 5638 strands. Support you.
member
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November 18, 2013, 01:17:17 AM
#28
PM'd VirtualSpade

only 4000 shares but worth chasing down I think
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
November 18, 2013, 01:12:00 AM
#27

He really screwed up not paying out the dividends.  It removes any defense based on an earnest-but-failed effort. Now he has no defense.

Kind of stupid, not paying out a few dozen btc for deniability.  But then, Alberto is a stupid man.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
November 17, 2013, 11:38:16 PM
#26
I'm not taking the legal route, I'm taking a physical confrontation route.  The mission is to also confirm his identity and find out more about him for the people who ARE taking the legal route.  We will also see what he has to say, and what his family has to say.

A flight from Canada to Italy is just over $1000 according to expedia.ca. 
I want to spend at least a week there to pursue this, so add another $1000 for hotel room and $500 for food. 
Extra funds will help with tools, such as a video/audio recording device, stungun (for self defense of course in case someone tries robbing me, right?  read between the lines if you wish), etc... but If I can't raise them I will buy them myself, but I don't think I will need over $2500. Every bit extra will help (if I do raise more before I book my flight, I will extend my stay which may increase the effectiveness of the pursuit). 

1Q99YdEuHfywTRFgeD1jPteQYWYaHnfmi7
Any funds I don't use will be returned. 

How are you planning to find him once you get there?

The irony is that the higher the price of bitcoin goes, the more and more pissed off labcoin investors are going to get. 

And the more and more fiat they'll have for...  revenge.

Alberto pulled a big scam in the past, and agreed to settle at a price of $12/btc (and never did)   If the average person had, say 100 btc and lost 50, they'd be out $1200, they'd be out $600, and have $600 to spend tracking them down.

On the other hand, the same thing happens now, someone who had and lost the same # of BTC would have lost $24,000, and they'd have $24,000 trying to track him down.

I think going to the cops is the way to go at this point.  People were talking about lawyers, etc.  But at this point he's shut down the website and completely stopped paying divs.

The police will be able to look up where the IP addresses were physically located.  They don't even need supenas, Alberto has left his IP address all over the internet.  But they'll also be able to get more, like the IP he uses on bitcointalk, and so on. They'll be able to get payment records for Linode, and find his real, fiat currency banking details.  And of course, they'll then be able to track down the IP addresses he uses to do his banking, as well as seize/freeze those accounts. They'll be able to discover (and even seize) any bitcoin he has on exchanges, or other sites he doesn't control.  He'll be cut off from the banking system, unable to trade bitcoin for anything other then cash from other members of the bitcoin community, which will be more difficult as everyone will know who he is and he'd be afraid of getting re-scammed. 

It depends on how motivated the police are.  The money he stole last time wasn't enough for the police to care anyway, but this time it's easily into the hundreds of thousands of dollars they (at least in the US) will roll out of bed for.   Of course, it depends on which jurisdiction he's in. The FBI took on the Pirateat40 case, and people did get some compensation. OTOH, Italian or HK cops might not care.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
November 17, 2013, 10:53:51 PM
#25
I'm not taking the legal route, I'm taking a physical confrontation route.  The mission is to also confirm his identity and find out more about him for the people who ARE taking the legal route.  We will also see what he has to say, and what his family has to say.

A flight from Canada to Italy is just over $1000 according to expedia.ca. 
I want to spend at least a week there to pursue this, so add another $1000 for hotel room and $500 for food. 
Extra funds will help with tools, such as a video/audio recording device, stungun (for self defense of course in case someone tries robbing me, right?  read between the lines if you wish), etc... but If I can't raise them I will buy them myself, but I don't think I will need over $2500. Every bit extra will help (if I do raise more before I book my flight, I will extend my stay which may increase the effectiveness of the pursuit). 

1Q99YdEuHfywTRFgeD1jPteQYWYaHnfmi7
Any funds I don't use will be returned. 
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
November 17, 2013, 10:31:49 PM
#24
You guys are great. Sam must be punished.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
November 14, 2013, 12:57:22 PM
#23
Did you contact Meni Rosenfeld about this? He is (was?) supposedly trying to get some money back from Alberto regarding his bitdaytrade scam:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/glbse-bdt-3-weekly-interest-bond-backed-by-bitdaytrade-93445

He may or may not have recent contact information

Contacting him now. Thanks for the info.
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