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Quote from: KTChampions on May 03, 2020, 05:52:40 PM

Given that the peak of the epidemic is already behind, I think this is a reasonable solution. It is worth a try. In the end, if there are any problems, then this solution can be undone. I think the business should start to work - with enhanced security measures, of course. Sooner or later it will have to be done. We must learn to work in new conditions.

In the US alone there are more than twenty thousand patients identified on a daily basis, i am not aware of situation in the rest of the states but the situation in Las Vegas might be far better than the rest of the states in the US and if they close the boundaries and test and identify the affected people then they can open everything, if not they are taking risk that they will regret in the future.

Just to think that it is already hard for those countries that have island type of archipelago to isolate or stop people to cross boards.How much more in US?
They might have better numbers than others but doesnt mean that they wont have a chance to cope up into those if they do just carelessly open
up everything because shes concern with her citizens on vicinity.Yeah we understand that economy is highly affected but it inst just right to make this
kind of decision because we are risking lives on here.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 03, 2020, 05:52:40 PM

Given that the peak of the epidemic is already behind, I think this is a reasonable solution. It is worth a try. In the end, if there are any problems, then this solution can be undone. I think the business should start to work - with enhanced security measures, of course. Sooner or later it will have to be done. We must learn to work in new conditions.

In the US alone there are more than twenty thousand patients identified on a daily basis, i am not aware of situation in the rest of the states but the situation in Las Vegas might be far better than the rest of the states in the US and if they close the boundaries and test and identify the affected people then they can open everything, if not they are taking risk that they will regret in the future.

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A big risk for the gamblers because there’s still no cure and the second wave of the virus can happen especially the virus can live on a metal for few hours. The Mayor might be thinking to save the economy and the gambling business and willing to risk the life of many people, well this will still depend on a gambler if they’ll go to casinos but personally, I’d rather play online for now rather than to go to a casino especially on a place where the case of virus is high.

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Quote from: samcrypto on May 04, 2020, 05:49:04 PM

A big risk for the gamblers because there’s still no cure and the second wave of the virus can happen especially the virus can live on a metal for few hours. The Mayor might be thinking to save the economy and the gambling business and willing to risk the life of many people, well this will still depend on a gambler if they’ll go to casinos but personally, I’d rather play online for now rather than to go to a casino especially on a place where the case of virus is high.

Not just for gamblers, but also the employees and the resident of Vegas and even the U.S. this will increase or will make the spread of virus faster. I wonder if there are still gamblers who will visit a real-time casino knowing the risk. Re-opening the casino will not help their economy that much because of the risk of getting COVID if they go to casinos.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on May 04, 2020, 07:41:19 AM

Those who love to go to casino will go to casino once they opened up. A person who feel the joy playing in real casino will not be happy playing gambling alone on his personal computer.

the pros and regulars will come back in search of action, but the real struggle IMO will be tourist demand. no other state in the country relies on tourism as much as nevada---it represents 20% of its GDP.

"millions of tourists to virtually zero"
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/las-vegas-coronavirus-tourists-zero

it's gonna be a long time before people feel safe flying in/out of vegas and rubbing shoulders at table games and poker tables again. and that's a damn shame---live gaming is way more fun than online, i'll be the first to acknowledge that. but i dunno when it will feel safe again. live gamblers (vs online) skew older too, lots of 50+ and retiree casino gamblers. the coronavirus's disproportionate impact on older populations may be relevant there.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 03, 2020, 05:44:44 PM

If the national government itself approved the plan, then so be it.

It will never that is one thing sure here because if the government will allow Las Vegas then what will happen to other states that is also fighting against this Quarantine?

Quote from: chaser15 on May 03, 2020, 05:44:44 PM

There will be lots of precautions and safety measures that will be imposed and implemented here.

why need to implement more when they can just stay in the recent rules so everything will go the safe ways?

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But if that plan already approved by the office of the President? I think Mayors don't have the power to just decide on their own when the country is under a global pandemic problem.

even if they pass legislative order still not will be allowed by this threat to the lives of many.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on May 03, 2020, 07:50:03 AM

A selfish decision coming from a selfish mayor of a huge city.

she is between a rock and a hard place. protests against the stay-home orders have been growing in las vegas and throughout the state for weeks.

the real problem that protestors and the mayor don't understand is this: who the heck is booking flights to vegas, and going out to casinos, shows, and restaurants right now? when vegas reopens, is anyone gonna show up?

i'll be sticking to online poker for a while. Tongue

This is also what the mayor doesn't want to happen. If all traditional casino gamblers stick to online gambling that they can stay at home using their phones, no one will be back to las vegas. And there will be lesser money coming into the city, way of life change for the mayor and the businesses in the city. Might as well close shops here. Mobile gambling win! Grin

I do not think this change would be permanent. Those who love to go to casino will go to casino once they opened up. A person who feel the joy playing in real casino will not be happy playing gambling alone on his personal computer. I think Mayor should delay the opening of the casinos for another 2 months at least.

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Quote from: swogerino on May 04, 2020, 01:59:40 AM

From an economic perspective though what Trump is trying to do is to give a boost to businesses as they are the ones who have been hit the hardest.

I wouldn't believe everything that Trump says. He makes a lot of meaningless statements now and then and doesn't stick to this word quite often. He wouldn't dare opening up the entire country since he knows who wrecked they are currently.

Quote from: Debonaire217 on May 04, 2020, 06:07:02 AM

but a big problem is how they can ensure that they will not be virus free.

This is the dilemma that the entire world is in currently. Las Vegas will have no choice other than enforcing the lockdown to protect their people.

They could allow a small number of people(Scanning them before entering) at random intervals into their casinos though.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on May 04, 2020, 06:07:02 AM

but a big problem is how they can ensure that they will not be virus free.

They can't ensure that, and although they will say so but the rate of infected people in US is just too high and therefore the risk is too high as well.
One person would carry the virus without getting detected and that will ruin the operation, so I think no government will approve vegas to operate under the current situation, I'll bet 5 bucks on that. Grin

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The action by the interviewer is quite a good way to test whether the mayor does really shows concern about their economy and employee, perhaps, if the mayor doesn't want to go with the challenge, it signifies that he's just concerned about the profit of the casinos and not with the health of the casino workers.

For me, if I were in the place of the Mayor, I will do the same to try to open up the casinos as Vegas is known to be the center of physical casinos worldwide, it is a big loss if they continue to lock down further, but a big problem is how they can ensure that they will not be virus free.

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One in every 300 across the entire width and breadth of the USA has contracted the COVID-19 virus and each and every day thousands more are diagnosed with the condition. Here in Australia and New Zealand we have flattened the curve by temporarily closing all bars, pubs, clubs & casinos (cinemas, restaurants etc etc etc) as well as obeying social distancing (and all the other things). If you're living in the USA and you're not self isolating then you should be VERY afraid between now and the end of the year. (If you live that long)

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Opening casino will add to the negative track record of United States citizens' indiscipline. As we can see, thousands of people still going to beach, even during the COVID pandemic. So it seems that reopening casinos are no longer a problem because there are many people who are not willing to isolate. Even though they know that the US is the country with the largest number of COVID-19 victims in the world.

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This is something that we should never consider, we all know that the pandemic is not over. The mayor of Las Vegas should think and realize that re-opening casinos will be a huge mistake, they should consider the regret of the Japanese Island for lifting their lockdown earlier, they are suffering in the second wave of coronavirus. If the Casinos in Las Vegas will start to operate again, this virus might spread more and the government will have a hard time fighting the virus.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 03, 2020, 05:44:44 PM

If the national government itself approved the plan, then so be it.

There will be lots of precautions and safety measures that will be imposed and implemented here.

But if that plan already approved by the office of the President? I think Mayors don't have the power to just decide on their own when the country is under a global pandemic problem.

People cannot do anything if the government approved the plan, and the casino will be re-open again. If that happens, then I think the government will use high standards for the casino to be operated, and they need to make sure that people who want to play gambling in their place will not have to worry. It is difficult because the pandemic is not over, and many people still choose to stay at home.

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No, it is better to secure my safety and who knows who will touch the slot machines or any gambling equipment in the gambling house, they might be the carrier or the infected one.

The Las Vegas Mayor seems like she doesn't know what she was talking about. She pushes to reopen Casinos but then she mentioned that it is the job of the owner of casinos to figure out on how they will secure the safety of their players. The only reason why she said this is because she is not the owner.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 03, 2020, 05:52:40 PM

Given that the peak of the epidemic is already behind, I think this is a reasonable solution. It is worth a try. In the end, if there are any problems, then this solution can be undone. I think the business should start to work - with enhanced security measures, of course. Sooner or later it will have to be done. We must learn to work in new conditions.

Surely it has to be done but only thing it should not be done when the situations is bad or cases or on rise still in those areas. If those belong to green zone, then yes can be done or even if it falls in orange zone then with social distancing and only certain number of people at a time in casinos can be allowed. But hopefully the protocol is being followed else if things get worst then it would damage it further.

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Quote from: cabron on May 03, 2020, 03:49:13 PM

This is also what the mayor doesn't want to happen. If all traditional casino gamblers stick to online gambling that they can stay at home using their phones, no one will be back to las vegas. And there will be lesser money coming into the city, way of life change for the mayor and the businesses in the city. Might as well close shops here. Mobile gambling win!

The change of hearts would be negligible

Online gambling has been around for a decade if not longer, so whoever wanted to play at home are already playing at home. People go to Vegas and similar places because they want real interaction and socialization, maybe not even so much gambling itself but the entourage of it, the environment and the spirit of gambling, plus things that typically come along with gambling (e.g. hookers if you win and drinking buddies if you lose)

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 03, 2020, 05:44:44 PM

If the national government itself approved the plan, then so be it.

There will be lots of precautions and safety measures that will be imposed and implemented here.

But if that plan already approved by the office of the President? I think Mayors don't have the power to just decide on their own when the country is under a global pandemic problem.

That is correct but also the President is insisting in opening completely the country after two to
three weeks from now which will include the casinos.I strongly disagree with completely opening up the whole country when your country has the highest number of infections and of victims.

From an economic perspective though what Trump is trying to do is to give a boost to businesses as they are the ones who have been hit the hardest.

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Given that the peak of the epidemic is already behind, I think this is a reasonable solution. It is worth a try. In the end, if there are any problems, then this solution can be undone. I think the business should start to work - with enhanced security measures, of course. Sooner or later it will have to be done. We must learn to work in new conditions.

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If the national government itself approved the plan, then so be it.

There will be lots of precautions and safety measures that will be imposed and implemented here.

But if that plan already approved by the office of the President? I think Mayors don't have the power to just decide on their own when the country is under a global pandemic problem.

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