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Quote from: figmentofmyass on May 03, 2020, 01:48:28 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on May 03, 2020, 07:50:03 AM

A selfish decision coming from a selfish mayor of a huge city.

she is between a rock and a hard place. protests against the stay-home orders have been growing in las vegas and throughout the state for weeks.

the real problem that protestors and the mayor don't understand is this: who the heck is booking flights to vegas, and going out to casinos, shows, and restaurants right now? when vegas reopens, is anyone gonna show up?

i'll be sticking to online poker for a while. Tongue

This is also what the mayor doesn't want to happen. If all traditional casino gamblers stick to online gambling that they can stay at home using their phones, no one will be back to las vegas. And there will be lesser money coming into the city, way of life change for the mayor and the businesses in the city. Might as well close shops here. Mobile gambling win! Grin

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I think that these type of decisions should be wisely discussed with a panel of experts.
The single opinion of a Major is not enough since the idea of "one man command" is not working in the real scenario, plus with a new infectious disease it's very hard to have any decision on that matters.
Even if in Las Vegas/Nevada there are not many Covid19 cases and they can control the situation it could be very risky at this point accept people coming from other States. It's normal that we are missing our "normal old life" but opening to soon activity is a potential (serious) risk

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i guess it won't make the situation better. one thing is to reopen casinos and another one is to be sure that gamblers will come to play while pandemic.

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So, let me get this straight carlisle1, you think the people are having financial troubles right? So starting city back up and making them work so that they can earn their income will help them in order to not starve right? But you think places will not be packed and people will not risk their lives to make money?

Well, what I think is, right now in some parts of USA people are already protesting literally tip to tip from each other and they do not cover their faces neither, which shows you that there are SOME people who are idiots and will risk others. So starting back the casinos open MAY not create any problems, but there is the possibility of it as well. How about being a social democracy and using taxes the governments has collected so far to save people from both the virus and economical troubles?

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Quote from: sweetbet on May 03, 2020, 03:02:28 AM

That's insane. This is not the time for it, especially when covid-19 is nowhere near under control.

Yeah, even the vaccines aren't find yet and someone want to find another issue to himself or the family. The relaxation form the lockdown should not be sewn as an opportunity for anybody or group to get together their businesses which is or are likely to attract huge crowd like gambling platforms. I think life is the first before talking about the funds from the business. Covid-19 still ravaging countries and causing deaths for both young and old and should be follow with social distances after relaxation. Las Vegas should wait for the sake of lives.

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First of all, it is pretty embarrasing that Carolyn Goodman is the mayor of Las Vegas. To those who are bored AF, I recommend watching the full interview (or at least try because second hand embarrassment is off the charts on this one) and judge for yourself if that lady is qualified to be a politician.

Secondly, there must be a lot of powerful & wealthy people pressuring others behind the scenes to force politicians to open up casinos. And I get it, there's SO MUCH money involved in the casino industry...Still, it doesn't justify that the rest of the state has to suffer the consenquences of such moronic decision (opening up casinos, where tons of people gather, in the middle of a pandemic).

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A lot of the reasons for re-opening have already been mentioned but it all comes down to the local economy. Nevada's entire economy is based on Vegas and I would not be surprised at all to see state legislators hop on board with the Mayor's intention to re-open. Casinos aren't going to see the same amount of revenue as before with less tourism so it's not a matter of returning to normalcy, it's a matter of saving the local economy from collapsing completely. I'm sure the gambling addicts will be back on the tables immediately after re-opening but there's no telling how much the economic damage that's already been done will cause on these establishments.

They had a good run. Good luck to them.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on May 03, 2020, 07:50:03 AM

A selfish decision coming from a selfish mayor of a huge city.

she is between a rock and a hard place. protests against the stay-home orders have been growing in las vegas and throughout the state for weeks.

the real problem that protestors and the mayor don't understand is this: who the heck is booking flights to vegas, and going out to casinos, shows, and restaurants right now? when vegas reopens, is anyone gonna show up?

i'll be sticking to online poker for a while. Tongue

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on May 03, 2020, 07:50:03 AM

A selfish decision coming from a selfish mayor of a huge city.

She knows already that USA is now the epicenter of the virus and yet she is thinking things like this that may risk the lives of many people. This is stupidity. She Is just thinking of the economy of the country before the health of her countrymen. We know already what will happen to the economy of the USA after this virus. The government are continuously printing money (Quantitative easing) and for sure this will have an effect for them. I know that the economy of the US is very important because they will be beaten by the Chinese with regards to its economy but for now, they might just focus on the virus before their economy.

The Mayor of Las Vegas is in dilemma, you can't call her for doing the shots deciding what to do with the city she's leading. We all know the fact that Las Vegas is running under private businesses and companies where most of the taxes are coming from, government does not have the fund to sustain the people in the long run that's why they are trying to suggest these businesses to resume operating but at least with a guidelines. I'm sure the mayor of Las Vegas is having a headache right now, well everyone does because of this pandemic.

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A selfish decision coming from a selfish mayor of a huge city.

She knows already that USA is now the epicenter of the virus and yet she is thinking things like this that may risk the lives of many people. This is stupidity. She Is just thinking of the economy of the country before the health of her countrymen. We know already what will happen to the economy of the USA after this virus. The government are continuously printing money (Quantitative easing) and for sure this will have an effect for them. I know that the economy of the US is very important because they will be beaten by the Chinese with regards to its economy but for now, they might just focus on the virus before their economy.

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Quote from: Genemind on May 02, 2020, 12:13:53 PM

Of course not, it is a selfish decision.

Nope that is not selfish decisions because the concerns are for the people of Her city and she only wants to find income for all the constituents and this is the needs that can be heard all over every city.

Quote from: Genemind on May 02, 2020, 12:13:53 PM

I understand that the reason why they want to open the casino is that Las Vegas depends on the gambling industry, this is where they get their taxes.

Not just about the taxation but the income of each others because she cannot sustain all their needs.

Quote from: Genemind on May 02, 2020, 12:13:53 PM

However, take note that if they open casinos it will be full packed by people which will put their city at risk.

I think it will not come that way because for sure people are aware how this can be risky for them so many will prevent this to happen.

Quote from: Genemind on May 02, 2020, 12:13:53 PM

Many people will die due to the virus. Everyone is struggling financially, but this will not solve it, it will only put people's lives at risk.

actually there are hundred of thousands that already died and there are plenty more struggling.

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Quote from: dothebeats on May 02, 2020, 11:55:27 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0kjCboHVA

In this interview of Anderson Cooper to Las Vegas' mayor Carolyn Goodman, the head of the city insists that the Vegas should re-open the casinos and restaurants for the welfare of its people. Especially those depending on the said establishments in order to get some money to feed their family. While the reasoning for the city's reopening is with good intention, the reasoning isn't sound and clearly done due to the urge of emotion. Anderson even went so far to ask the mayor if she would be willing to stay every night on casinos wherein the workers and the gamblers would be staying just to prove that she is 'with them' in their plight against coronavirus.

If the persistence of the mayor proved to be worthwhile and the city reopens, would you, as a gambler, be willing to get inside one of the many casinos and play there?

Very bad idea if they implement it. I do not know what is the reason for opening the casino at this time ? I understand the casino business is under a lot of stress but they should also see the covid-19 situation across the country. Even if they open them, the responsible citizens of New York will not come to casino as they know they can easily get infected because of the public crowd.

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If this answer is yes by the government or necessary institutions, it would be a very wrong decision. Aside from the fact that a solution for the virus has not yet been produced, I think it is something that could cause the events to grow even more because the USA is the new spread point of the virus. Besides, many countries have closed their borders, so soon foreign citizens will definitely not visit here and the revenues of businesses here will decrease. Although the businesses in this region are hurting every day, I would like to emphasize once again that it is too early for them to open. Also, why aren't casinos creating bad or emergency funds for them as long as they've made huge gains? If such a fund had been created with such a high income, it would not be possible for such an early opening in such a critical process.

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Quote from: plvbob0070 on May 03, 2020, 06:11:17 AM

If I'm not mistaken, casino workers don't even want to work amidst coronavirus. The mayor does not even want to step inside the casino along with the worker if ever they will push through the reopening of casinos, but she wants to open it for their own benefits.

We should be expecting our government to keep our safety but what she just showed in the interview is very frustrating. Everyone wants to return to work and stop the economy from crashing but we have no choice but to stay at our houses because of the threat of the virus. Can't she just understand that? Even the interviewer seems shocked by the mayor's belief. If you are a mayor, you would not risk your people's health.

She's going to be questioned a lot after this terrifying crisis, worse is that she will not be a mayor any longer. Because what she thought be helping for the meantime would cost a lot of lives to be at risk. Beside, it is their economy status would get down that it ain't even as worth as many lives, and who else is safe from it? (I mean the economy falling down). Anway even if I were a gambler from there I won't even give it a go without a second guessing, and no matter how much I miss wandering around. I appricate her intentions but it is really bad no matter which side you look at.

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If I'm not mistaken, casino workers don't even want to work amidst coronavirus. The mayor does not even want to step inside the casino along with the worker if ever they will push through the reopening of casinos, but she wants to open it for their own benefits.

We should be expecting our government to keep our safety but what she just showed in the interview is very frustrating. Everyone wants to return to work and stop the economy from crashing but we have no choice but to stay at our houses because of the threat of the virus. Can't she just understand that? Even the interviewer seems shocked by the mayor's belief. If you are a mayor, you would not risk your people's health.

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Sooner or later life needs get back to normal and businesses need to work again, otherwise that might ruin owners and workers and lead to even bigger disaster than pandemic.
That also refers to casinos also so I can understand the mayor. To my opinion if they fulfil all the necessary measures about hygene and social distancing casinos might be opened, the key is that people are disciplined and obey the safety recommendations.

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I don't know what thread should be locked but there is already existing thread about this, and it's week earlier https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mayor-of-las-vegas-wants-the-whole-city-open-including-casinos-and-stadiums-5244400

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Here is also another interview from the Mayor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnM2jqB9OQ4

Her assumption is that everyone is a carrier, asymptomatic so it's everyone responsible to take care of themselves. Its like to each its own, and since there are no treatment right now, everyone should go on with their daily lives. LOL. This Mayor is really out of this world with her statement, incompetent.

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Did she accept enforcing social distancing, wearing of mask, use of disinfectant and other safety measures?
I think she made a good point regarding family depending on casinos and restaurants. But you wouldn't sacrifice the safety/lives of other (even one person) for the sake of thousands of families. That kind of sacrifice qualifies as blood/human sacrifice.
I think everyone should suggesting how to keep the whole community safe when businesses are reopened. Good suggestions can then be adopted by the leaders and the community.
* By the way, the bad/unsafe games shouldn't be allowed in order to also improve spaces in physical casinos and keep players productive/profitable/safe.
Good betting games(without gambling) are worth opening a casinos in the crisis

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Quote from: dothebeats on May 02, 2020, 11:55:27 AM

In this interview of Anderson Cooper to Las Vegas' mayor Carolyn Goodman, the head of the city insists that the Vegas should re-open the casinos and restaurants for the welfare of its people.

Which people?

people should mean the majority, or the interest of the many.. who would go in a casino right now that the world is in pandemic, they are afraid to go out and that would give another headache to the government if the cases will continue to grow.. This mayor should at least look what is happening to the world now than serving his personal interest.

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