Topic: "Last of the V8s" is filing fake scam reports - page 2. (Read 1082 times)

That was probably the wrong tangent. I guess the main point is there is a quandary in my mind between the principles of free speech and the repugnant nature of what r0ach's fingertips unleash on the WO board. The members who regularly post on the WO board have been more than longsuffering with r0ach. He's lucky that this current account of his has only accumulated 2 red tags. I think anyone who would initiate a trade with him on this forum should take a glance at his post history, first. And Lauda has used his post history as the evidence link. It's probably all moot anyway, since I doubt r0ach will be doing any trades on this board considering that he thinks all cryptocurrencies are shit coins. Also, the WO board, where he posts almost exclusively, doesn't display trust ratings.

Bitten off more than you can chew r0ach.

I explained in detail what I meant by principles. I really don't see how political parties play into his discussion.

Well, it all depends on what "principals" you think are more important. I can't believe the party of Lincoln has accommodated those with similar points of view to R0ach. That's what the Democratic party was supposed to be about...

Did I say Lauda negative rated CryptopreneurBrainboss? I don't know R0ach from a hole in the ground, and I am not white knighting for anything other than principles. This is not a question about how liberal this forum is, it is a question of this negative rating being abusive. I don't think people should be able to negative rate people just because they don't like something that they said, as I have explained before I advocate for a standard of evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws to be the standard for negative rating. He may be a racist asshole, but that doesn't make it open season on him for trust system abuse.

As despicable as I find r0ach's comments and blatant bigotry, I am torn about the use of the trust system in this way.  However, bones261 makes a really good point.  I'm a fairly trusting person, but I would have a hard time trusting people who spew hate such as r0ach does.

But that's not the whole deal, is it?  r0ach is accusing another member of attempting to scam the whole community, which is an allegation for which he can only provide circumstantial evidence.  That makes this a different type of situation.  Spreading misinformation about another member should never be tolerated.

@r0ach, if you have a suspicion about another member, feel free to share it, but don't make it sound like it's a proven fact when the only "evidence" that exists is "he said/she said."

 

     Given V8's response, I think it is best to let the WO regulars handle this in their own way. If Lauda wants to back it up, more power to her.

We need to be very careful defining a troll. If a person presents an argument that you do not agree with then unless you can debunk it then it is not trolling.

Trolling is not so much of a worry as persons proliferating incorrect and misleading information that is observably proven incorrect or supporting those that do. Those are just slightly less damaging than scammers and way less detrimental to crypto than real trolls who are basically just piss takers.

@bones

I see nothing to say that he would be any more of a scammer than those that sound calm and reasonable. Scammers tend to be slick not be putting peoples backs up before they strike.

This was all hashed out in our thread very eloquently:


This is not about his hate agenda or his anti-bitcoin trolling, it's about him lying to pursue those agendas.
This is not his only lie by any means. There's more, even in this thread. You can't trust him, hence the red mark.

If you were a women, a Jew, or a non-white person, would you want to engage in trade with this guy? (Especially divulging shipping details.)

Exactly, r0ach is just a troll. I have no idea why he posts here. He enjoys ridiculing bitcoin too, his presence here is a total waste of his time. Life is too short!

Well, I can not say that I ascribe to these views. However I hold to the view that these are admin related concerns and not for DT red trust nazi's to take into their own hands when clearly their mandate is for scammers and scam related matters. When you start allowing red trust for any other reason it leads to abuse and the crushing of free speech.

Yes this is the original R0ach. His points are exactly the same from when his account got hacked in 2017. He didn't miss a beat. Also, if you happen to be a women, a jew, or have any skin color other than white, you probably are not going to enjoy a great deal of his material... Also, r0ach has "evolved" quite a bit from the old days. Basically, he thinks cryptocurrency as a whole is a load of BS. I think the turn around was complete just prior to bitfinex getting hacked.

REALLY?? so you are saying you will do what you like then? Because I just saw Theymos say red trust will be for scammers or those strongly likely to scam.

Of course you will continue to abuse the trust system as suits you and the goons. Right up until the tide builds against you. Then you and the rest of the turds are going to be flushed down and away from the systems of control you abuse.

@bones

This could or could not be true (i have not read his recent posts but he is a famous poster from the old days on the alt boards and I never saw anything very offensive there - this is the original roach or not??) but again this is a matter for ADMIN not a bunch of self serving goons to take care of. Unless it is scam related this is not a scam tag issue.

No, Lauda has not given CryptopreneurBrainboss a negative rating. She has given R0ach a negative rating. However, if you want to become a white knight for realr0ach, please go ahead. I'm popping the popcorn, now.The stuff he posts on this forum would have gotten him banned on the vast majority of social media platforms. Him being allowed to continue to post here is a testament to how liberal bitcointalk is when it comes to letting people express their views.

@R0ach. Have you attempted to get your original account back recently? If you still have the original e-mail that you created that account with, the chances are fair you can have it back in about a week.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recovering-hackedlost-accounts-5089777

I see, so some one disagrees with your burn them all attitude and they are automatically spreading misinformation and get a negative rating. You believe whatever serves you at any given moment. The tide is changing around here, and you aren't going to like the way you look, I guarantee it.

This is good to know. Keep trying.

Then we have:


Which is what Lauda and Last of the V8s are arbitrarly doing to random people they disagree with or can't beat in debate.  Did I also mention women perjure themselves in court at a rate far higher than men which is why no civilized nation in the past ever allowed women to be stand as witnesses in the first place?  They have no form of honor whatsoever, no integrity, do not respect any type of logic or reason, and just lie to try and distort things in their favor. Your (Lauda) cognitive dissonance level is so high that you don't even understand I'm the only person on the forum NOT lying and that you are the one attempting to lie about "decentralization" for personal gain.

Of course the scammer feedback system is not for completely arbitrary opinion bullshit like you don't like their taste in music or fashion so you give them a negative score.  It's pretty obvious Last of the V8s is abusing the system when he filed a scam report against Jbreher for simply owning Bcash (lol).  I could give two shits about Bcash, and Jbreher and I are not friends, but if you can file a scam report against someone for owning Bcash, then filing a scam report on people for owning Dogecoin or Monero would be valid too.  

Hell, it would also be completely viable for me to file a scam report against EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the ENTIRE FORUM supporting bitcoin for being scammers because transaction validators are designed to centralize in every cryptocurrency and decentralization is a 100% completely unsolvable problem.  So do you really want to play by the rules you and Last of the V8s advocate now, Lauda?  I just noticed you left a fake scam report on my page too.  

You're literally an ANTIFA member.  They're unable to win in any legit debate so their only valid tactic is to try and censor or practice defamation.  Just like you, Last of the V8s is also incapable of beating me in debate which is why he did this.  Nothing I've said is even false.  It's YOU that's spreading disinformation.  Creating a decentralized digital currency is 100% impossible, and any non-fungible currency is also a permissioned ledger by default, which is why I advocate physical metals.

Annoying =/= consistently posting misinformation (there is no doubt about OP when it comes to this clearly). This is elementary school knowledge, don't waste our time.

Sadly there is little that can be done (based on current forum policies) to prevent the spread of such or any other misinformation.