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Topic: Law Enforcement Attending Bitcoin Meetups Undercover? - page 3. (Read 6355 times)

legendary
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Hero Member is just amount of posts, not time. You can see date registered in profiles, like mine, I haven't been around since 2011.
My post was meant to be sardonic, but with the speed of your denial, I now suspect you.
and it is a time measurement.   It is the number of 14 day periods that you have made a post.
LOL
Really? Seems like that's a mod: http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Post-Count_based_membergroup
Hmmm.   Does this mean we should ask theymos to prove his W2 does not come from Uncle Sam?
legendary
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RIP Mommy
Hero Member is just amount of posts, not time. You can see date registered in profiles, like mine, I haven't been around since 2011.
My post was meant to be sardonic, but with the speed of your denial, I now suspect you.
and it is a time measurement.   It is the number of 14 day periods that you have made a post.

LOL

Really? Seems like that's a mod: http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Post-Count_based_membergroup
legendary
Activity: 2478
Merit: 1020
Be A Digital Miner
Hero Member is just amount of posts, not time. You can see date registered in profiles, like mine, I haven't been around since 2011.
My post was meant to be sardonic, but with the speed of your denial, I now suspect you.
and it is a time measurement.   It is the number of 14 day periods that you have made a post.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1032
RIP Mommy
Hero Member is just amount of posts, not time. You can see date registered in profiles, like mine, I haven't been around since 2011.
legendary
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I have been thinking about this since reading the criminal complaints against piratea40 and DPR.   It says they are on forums since 2011.   I am starting to think that being a "hero" member actually makes me MORE wary of the person.   They are probably FBI or treasury agents.    I wonder if some are mods by now?
legendary
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Yay for the police.  

I have lived in bad neighborhoods.  When the number of police officers on the beat went up enough, they quit being bad neighborhoods.  The troublemakers, thieves, scammers, dopeheads, gangbangers, and dealers all decided they would have better odds pursuing their chosen professions in other areas, leaving the law abiding citizens happy and satisfied and owning property that tripled in value as that element was finally driven away.   Seriously, three cheers for the cops!

Increased police presence in my bad neighborhood had the opposite result. The most the officers would do was have friendly laughing chats with drug dealers & gang members and stop just short of partaking in their open alcoholic beverages and non-medical marijuana themselves. Crime went up, and so did the body count from the street racers playing Bowling for Children down busy residential streets, while the only traffic stops conducted were for dead brake lights. Our car was stolen and recovered a ridiculous amount of time later, covered in months of dust with a dead battery, not stripped, just a 24 pack of water bottles stolen out of the trunk, in a parking lot on the rich side of town, where it had spent months sitting in the same spot according to security, after apparrent joyriding and subsequent abandonment.

This isn't even 2% of all the crimes that occurred there.

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Still, you know how to change the law, right?  If you live in an area with democracy, you change it by participating in the process and voting!

"It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes." When the worst of all possible evils always wins where it counts, you realize Stalin's thesis thoroughly haunts American elections.
hero member
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Good. I hope there are many law enforcement people in every BTC meetup, so that they see there's nothing wrong about it. BTC's got to move from its drug & gambling image.
This!!! Btc is a wonderful thing so long as you use it respectfully and legally.
legendary
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Your country may be your worst enemy
Good. I hope there are many law enforcement people in every BTC meetup, so that they see there's nothing wrong about it. BTC's got to move from its drug & gambling image.
legendary
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I'd like to hear more from Genjix please...

Especially if his comments on this forum come at the expense of mainstream media outlets.  I may have never been so embarrassed of Bitcoin as when he proposed that the solution to theft in the community was that other participants would feel sorry for the victim and make him/her whole via charity.  That was some interview on RT IIRC.  Opposite some Indian guy who had his shit together.

I lost a lot of respect for Taaki when he seemed to think it acceptable to take out a hit on someone who threatens one's business (a-la DPR.)  To me the guy is a fixture in the community in the same vein as Atlas, Bruce, Wright, etc...though he writes more code I suppose.  Thread-safe even!

legendary
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The paranoia is strong with this one.
Don't mistake paranoia with rational thinking.

Of course feds are all over the forums. Haven't you read the story of Silkroad ? How they got to the guy running it ?
They found one of his veeeeeeeeeeeeeery old topics on this forum and followed the trail further.

It would be just moronic/extremely naive to think that feds are not all over the forum after Silkroad case. Obviously they are around. Maybe even in this very topic, who knows.
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I'd like to hear more from Genjix please...
hero member
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Time to come clean. Everyone in this thread but you, OP, is a cop.
hero member
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Crypto is King.
Who cares. Don't break laws when using bitcoin. You should be fine.
legendary
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This reminds me that at the 2013 conference in San Jose, a male and female team were making the rounds in the common area with a very high quality piece of video gear.  They got the nicest mug-shot of me imaginable.  If they were LEA or working with them, 'the feds' have a pretty good idea of every pore on my face.

For my part, I decided to go the extra mile in terms of acting within the law and hope beyond hope that if the worst happened, at least I could rely on the principle of 'ex post facto' to cover my ass.  If that is tossed out the window I believe that violent revolution would not be far behind.

legendary
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Yay for the police. 

I have lived in bad neighborhoods.  When the number of police officers on the beat went up enough, they quit being bad neighborhoods.  The troublemakers, thieves, scammers, dopeheads, gangbangers, and dealers all decided they would have better odds pursuing their chosen professions in other areas, leaving the law abiding citizens happy and satisfied and owning property that tripled in value as that element was finally driven away.   Seriously, three cheers for the cops!

The only thing I'm even remotely upset about is that the ladies of negotiable affection went away too.  They were harmless.  Some of them were savvy businesspeople entirely happy with their choice of profession or paying their way through college as independent operators (hey, it beats the hell out of fast food jobs), and some of them were essentially slaves and victims of coercion, not allowed to keep their earnings, and ought to have been regarded more as the victims of criminals than as criminals themselves.   But that's the way it's gonna be until the law changes. 

Still, you know how to change the law, right?  If you live in an area with democracy, you change it by participating in the process and voting!  You do not change it by making trouble for the cops, because believe me when I say that no matter where you live, they can make far more trouble for you than you can make for them, and besides making trouble for the cops gets in the way of their very valuable work keeping the nasties out of the area. 

Bitcoin can use some serious police efforts, IMO.  Keep your damn nose clean and celebrate a little victory and a better world every time they take a dangerous criminal away. 

legendary
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From a country as the US i always get the creeps. Not because i am doing something wrong, but just that they decide if you did something wrong even when the law tells us we didn't. Just look at the NSA. They count everyone as a terrorist
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As everyone knows law enforcement is all over these forums.  They sure keep quite.  Maybe because they dont't want to taint evidence with forum posts which could be used against them in the court of law.

Anyways, it dawned on me that law enforcement is attending bitcoin meetups undercover.  The FBI, state of NY, etc have tons of money to run such an operation.

It just feels weird to have people pretend they know bitcoin and then try to be friends with you even when you know you have not broken any laws.  Makes me paranoid to mentally play, "Spot the fed", while at a bitcoin meetup.  It also feels like an invasion of privacy.

Thoughts?  Am I paranoid?  Should everyone be?  Maybe I have been watching too much breaking bad.

They are probably looking for drug dealers! Smiley
legendary
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It's well known that law enforcement has been attending Bitcoin meetups since the beginning. Gavin has even been to the CIA to give them a talk about bitcoin.

Don't freak out about it, they've been around here since the beginning, everyone knows.

This is true. I wouldn't worry about it. Most people in the Bitcoin community are trying to build an honest, decent economy.
legendary
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Anyways, it dawned on me that law enforcement is attending bitcoin meetups undercover.  The FBI, state of NY, etc have tons of money to run such an operation.

It just feels weird to have people pretend they know bitcoin and then try to be friends with you even when you know you have not broken any laws.  Makes me paranoid to mentally play, "Spot the fed", while at a bitcoin meetup.  It also feels like an invasion of privacy.

Thoughts?  Am I paranoid?  Should everyone be?  Maybe I have been watching too much breaking bad.
I'm pretty there are agents of various kinds attending meetups, and acting as both buyers and sellers on LocalBitcoins.

I was at a public park on Tuesday and ended up in what I thought was just a random conversation with a stranger, but after thinking about the kinds of questions he was asking I'm not sure how random it really was.
rpg
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where's money that are criminals and there a few of them in this community. Money laundry is for sure a concern of them but not sure if they can find them at the meetings or even here. I assume it would be easy to buy bitcoins with illicit money and cash it elsewhere. Local buys are for sure an opportunity where the fiat leaves no paper trace and shows up as a bitcoin in some country where it can be converted back into fiat. Would not be surprised if local bitcoin sales are done by undercover cops posing as a miner
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