Well, Lawyers and bitcoin don't mix, Bitcoin is about standing away from statutes and acts and other government made up crimes, Designed to squeeze every bit of money back into their pockets, Weather you win or loose, The money goes to the courts.
I am currently studying "freeman law" or "laymen's law" It's scary how much control we have over our selves.
On a side note, There was a story in the UK of a robber, Who tried to gain access to a house by climbing on a glass conservatory, The glass gave way and he fell onto a table with a cheese knife cutting his arm.........The robber sued and WON £10K in damages!!
This is the real world we live in with lawyers.
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dude i seriously hate every lawyer and law maker.
Normal rate for a lawyer = $500 per hr.
dude i seriously hate every surgeon and doctor.Normal rate for a lawyer = $500 per hr.
Normal rate for a surgeon = $10,000 per hr.
Are those US Dollars? Is so, where the hell is this?
I do internal medicine and I'm probably quitting this year because I can make more money doing photography or IT support than I currently get with medicine - more than 1/2 my patients don't even pay their bills.
No surgeon is making $10K/hr - the hospital is charging you $10K an hour. A wealthy neurosurgeon might make $2 mil a year busting his ass off for 80-90hrs/wk plus call - that doesn't translate into $10k/hr
the bigger problems lie in the convoluted nature of the legal system. the more complex and contradictory our laws become, the need for proper academic training for lawyers, and an abundance of lawyers to defend the economic viability of businesses, becomes more necessary.
The problem though is the whole system is supposedly be about Morales and Truth. Then they make these idiotic laws(yes that is not the lawyers) that can be twisted around into a Guilty person getting away with something. That is what I am finding wrong with lawyers.
that's the perverse nature of government authority and the law, and the system it creates. you can't claim that lawyers as a whole are immoral -- that's false on it's face. surely, the system is morally bankrupt, but the issue goes far beyond individuals. it creates incentive for people/business to use the law for their benefit (and at the expense of others), and in turn creates the economic incentive for people to pursue legal careers as a result.
I am sure there are moral lawyers out there. But answer me this, do you think there are more greedy ones than moral? Not many other professions have that linked to it...
you can't really blame lawyers for the existence of lawyers. as long as society is built such that government authority is founded on laws, lawyers play a necessary role, and there is clear incentive for people to train to become lawyers.
You can however blame lawyers for not being morale and decent citizens and crazed money lunatics. That is my beef with them, they don't even see a side of the story, they view people as walking paychecks and it is sickening.
that's the perverse nature of government authority and the law, and the system it creates. you can't claim that lawyers as a whole are immoral -- that's false on it's face. surely, the system is morally bankrupt, but the issue goes far beyond individuals. it creates incentive for people/business to use the law for their benefit (and at the expense of others), and in turn creates the economic incentive for people to pursue legal careers as a result.
most of the problems today in America at least would be solved if there were no lawyers. unfortunately it started off as a great respectable job, then much like a lot of stuff the more money that was threw at it, the more and more scum started working on getting law degrees.
I think we removed lawyers from this country it would be a great day for everyone!
I think we removed lawyers from this country it would be a great day for everyone!
the bigger problems lie in the convoluted nature of the legal system. the more complex and contradictory our laws become, the need for proper academic training for lawyers, and an abundance of lawyers to defend the economic viability of businesses, becomes more necessary.
you can't really blame lawyers for the existence of lawyers. as long as society is built such that government authority is founded on laws, lawyers play a necessary role, and there is clear incentive for people to train to become lawyers.
You can however blame lawyers for not being morale and decent citizens and crazed money lunatics. That is my beef with them, they don't even see a side of the story, they view people as walking paychecks and it is sickening.
you can't really blame lawyers for the existence of lawyers. as long as society is built such that government authority is founded on laws, lawyers play a necessary role, and there is clear incentive for people to train to become lawyers.
dude i seriously hate every lawyer and law maker.
Normal rate for a lawyer = $500 per hr.
dude i seriously hate every surgeon and doctor.Normal rate for a lawyer = $500 per hr.
Normal rate for a surgeon = $10,000 per hr.
Surgeons definitely deserve that payment if not more.
most of the problems today in America at least would be solved if there were no lawyers. unfortunately it started off as a great respectable job, then much like a lot of stuff the more money that was threw at it, the more and more scum started working on getting law degrees.
I think we removed lawyers from this country it would be a great day for everyone!
I think we removed lawyers from this country it would be a great day for everyone!
Isn't there a saying about what to do with all lawyers and judges after a revolution
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I just find that our justice system is corrupted, because even if you are clearly guilty, a good lawyer can give to a chance to win. I think that lawyers should be eliminated because it just imbalances the justice system.
For most of us a lawyer is a scum sucking leech and we couldn't feel anything if we saw one get hit by a car (since then 2 more would show up like cockroaches). It's when you get in trouble that a lawyer may sadly become your best friend.
For a insane cost... so not really.
I wondered how you guys though about lawyers. I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I find that the whole idea of lawyers is bad. Chances are if you have a better lawyer, you have a much better chance of winning, even if you are in the wrong. For example, if you are a criminal, you murder someone, your obviously guilty, but if you have the best lawyer, he/she could twist everything and get you out of it. What do you guys think?
Maaaan, you got some hate going on there! I mean, lawyers can get you out of some pretty freaky crap! Seriously! Those judges are nothing to mess with and they know their game and get the best outcome for you!
dude i seriously hate every lawyer and law maker.
Normal rate for a lawyer = $500 per hr.
dude i seriously hate every surgeon and doctor.Normal rate for a lawyer = $500 per hr.
Normal rate for a surgeon = $10,000 per hr.
It's not different from antything else in life. Want good lawyer, you need to pay good money. The more you can afford to pay, the better protection you will get.
Even as an Anarchist/Libertarian I know this is true but I find it pretty disgusting that our entire judiciary system is based on how rich you are jury's and judges are suppose to be impartial but it's obvious depending on the country that impartiality isn't practised in the slightest.
I think the worst examples by far have to be self-defence cases, I have nothing against lawyers themselves, just the system, they're simply a human reflection of the whole corruption that is going on.
Well unfortunately you need a good one because most of the time you can understand shit about legal terms 
I wondered how you guys though about lawyers. I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I find that the whole idea of lawyers is bad. Chances are if you have a better lawyer, you have a much better chance of winning, even if you are in the wrong. For example, if you are a criminal, you murder someone, your obviously guilty, but if you have the best lawyer, he/she could twist everything and get you out of it. What do you guys think?
Yes, if you're rich you're less likely to go to jail. But who's really to blame? Expensive lawyers? Or the judge/jury, after all, they decide whether guilty or not and what the punishment would be.
The other problem is that poor people don't get the proper representation, they're often advised or pushed to confess even if not guilty.
Well, the jury will decide upon the verdict, but in no small part based upon how the situation is presented to them - and obviously, a good (expensive) lawyer will be adept at twisting the narrative to suit his needs. On the other hand, it seems naive to blame the lawyers without presenting a viable alternative; they are doing a necessary job after all, at least until a better system is in place.
I wondered how you guys though about lawyers. I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I find that the whole idea of lawyers is bad. Chances are if you have a better lawyer, you have a much better chance of winning, even if you are in the wrong. For example, if you are a criminal, you murder someone, your obviously guilty, but if you have the best lawyer, he/she could twist everything and get you out of it. What do you guys think?
Yes, if you're rich you're less likely to go to jail. But who's really to blame? Expensive lawyers? Or the judge/jury, after all, they decide whether guilty or not and what the punishment would be.
The other problem is that poor people don't get the proper representation, they're often advised or pushed to confess even if not guilty.
For most of us a lawyer is a scum sucking leech and we couldn't feel anything if we saw one get hit by a car (since then 2 more would show up like cockroaches). It's when you get in trouble that a lawyer may sadly become your best friend.
It's not different from antything else in life. Want good lawyer, you need to pay good money. The more you can afford to pay, the better protection you will get.
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