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Topic: Leah McGrath Goodman offers more details on conversation with Dorian S. Nakamoto - page 2. (Read 5733 times)

legendary
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I admire the girl for being passionate about getting "the story". Unmasking the creator of bitcoin is something a lot of people would be interested in learning about so I get she was excited about getting the big story.

Part of getting the story is getting the story right.  It is clear she went into this absolutely convinced she had the right person and then acted in a way to get confirmation of it.  Confirmation bias is a piss-poor way of getting to the truth.  Whether or not she got it right, and I am increasingly doubting that, it was done in an atrociously bad way.
sr. member
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Another article said she was sitting on his front porch for an hour after he told her to go away.

What a fucking slob she is.   Sorry ...

-B-

I admire the girl for being passionate about getting "the story". Unmasking the creator of bitcoin is something a lot of people would be interested in learning about so I get she was excited about getting the big story.

But in hindsight, I think she used some poor ethics. She does a great job at asking people questions in a way that gets you answers you can use to tell a story, thats what she did with this guys family.  I guarantee this guys family said a lot of things but she asked specific questions to get cetain answers and then picks and chose those answers to fit her story/accusation.

I think this lady worked on this story for so long (2 months) that even if evidence started popping up that this guy knew nothing about bitcoin,  she just couldn't be honest with herself and let it go.  For that she is wrong ,  if that's the case.
sr. member
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"And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’"

and he said: "what is bitcom?"

and i said: "you are satoshi right?"

and he said "yes, go away!"



makes sense.  Cheesy

When you watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrrtA6IoR_E

It's abundantly clear Dorian is not the creator of bitcoin.

Especially the end, "Leah wrote this?" Dorian says before shaking his head in disbelief.

I tend to agree. Either the creator of bitcoin is also a world class impromptu actor and amazing liar  or this is just a smart old many living his life in retirement with no idea what the heck bitcoin is.

And yes that reaction towards the reporter is very convenience, its a reaction of just complete shock.
legendary
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Months of investigations have lead that chick to the doorstep of Satoshi Nakamoto.
And she isn't even recording the convertation?
Not even with her iphone hidden in her pocket? Isn't that a little amateurish?

In California, secretly recording someone without their consent could be at least a misdemeanor offense and could also subject the recorder to civil liability.
legendary
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Has happened though, criminals would confess to their crimes only later in court to deny everything.

The crime in this case being ....?
hero member
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Another article said she was sitting on his front porch for an hour after he told her to go away.

What a fucking slob she is.   Sorry ...

-B-
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Skoupi the Great
Months of investigations have lead that chick to the doorstep of Satoshi Nakamoto.
And she isn't even recording the convertation?
Not even with her iphone hidden in her pocket? Isn't that a little amateurish?
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Why the strange choice of phrasing?

"If you are in any way not connected, you need to tell me now" is a confusing way to phrase that statement and I doubt it was unintentional.  Apart from anything else, it's an aggressive statement.  He "needs" to tell her now or what?  Why leave the implied threat unexpressed unless you're intentionally being vague and hoping to confuse someone?

She was hoping to bully him into a "confession" and it didn't work so she needed to grasp at straws and get him to say something - anything - she could vaguely interpret as acknowledgement.

legendary
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“His family told me that he would deny it. In fact, I was very surprised when he acknowledged it to me when I met with him.”
well his family meant to have not known anything about it, so hearing a reporter ask them of course they would reply, that he wont admit to it. coz its not him and they have never heard him mention the words before to his family. or they cold hav thought she was asking about a project he done with the government

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“When I met with him, I told him I’m here to talk to you about Bitcoin. At the time there were two police officers there. In fact, I think that initially their intention was to just escort me away, but when I said ‘Bitcoin,’ one of them was interested and let me continue talking. And I said, ‘You know, people think you were the founder of Bitcoin.’ And I asked him a few questions about, whether or not it was true, and he said, ‘I cannot talk about that. I’m not connected with it anymore.’ The exact quote is in the story.

he never said the words, 'i made bitcoin' he may have however thought she was talking about a government project which he was involved in to do with aviation or defense, most contractors are never given specifics like project names. they are just ordered to install equipment in certain places or do certain tasks. governments dont divulged all the details to a contractor normally only a chief or other high ranking personel know the government projects names. so when a reporter approaches you, you know its not about dropping litter or smoking in public, so you then think it must be related to those secret projects you done for the government and reply  ‘I cannot talk about that. I’m not connected with it anymore.’

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And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’ And he said, ‘Yes,’ but he went on the say that he would not elaborate at all or answer questions. And, in addition, my last question to him was, ‘If you are in anyway not connected, you need to tell me now,’ and he said, ‘I cannot do that.’”
well she initiated the questioning, so the topic was in her control. if i asked you, have you ever rode a elephant. and you gave a negative response. and i then said ‘We are talking about riding elephants here, correct?’ you would say yes.. its not like you were the one talking about .. pfft, i dunno.... ah, eating watermelons.. when she asked about elephants.. and then ofcourse you would then say you cant say anymore, as there is no more to say
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Dorian may have been unfamiliar with the term "bitcoin" but assumed that the reporter was using it as a reference to some other classified work.


Who says Bitcoin wasn't some classified project at one point in time and that he did indeed work on it, hence he couldn't speak about it?


~BCX~

Alternatively it is possible he misheard he. She said Bitcoin and he heard _______ (the name of a project he worked on that was under NDA).  The guy is 68, had a stroke recently and English isn't his first language.  In the video he did make references to "BitCom" even after the reported said Bitcoin.

There are several telecommunications companies named bitcom. He probably though some work he did could have been associated that. He was just trying not to say anything that could breach any past disclosure agreements.

She should have found a Satoshi with Alzheimer's and gone for a full confession on record.
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Gerald Davis
Dorian may have been unfamiliar with the term "bitcoin" but assumed that the reporter was using it as a reference to some other classified work.


Who says Bitcoin wasn't some classified project at one point in time and that he did indeed work on it, hence he couldn't speak about it?


~BCX~

Alternatively it is possible he misheard he. She said Bitcoin and he heard _______ (the name of a project he worked on that was under NDA).  The guy is 68, had a stroke recently and English isn't his first language.  In the video he did make references to "BitCom" even after the reported said Bitcoin.
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"And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’"

and he said: "what is bitcom?"

and i said: "you are satoshi right?"

and he said "yes, go away!"



makes sense.  Cheesy

Classic
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Dorian Nakamoto is either (a) who he says he is, and was recklessly misidentified by an overeager reporter; or (b) Kaiser Söze.
newbie
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leah mcgrath goodman is a known liar.

she has been proven time and time before that she changes peoples quotes, twists people words and ruins peoples lives.

if you dont believe me. here is a facebook group dedicated to her lies:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/152252848262001/

lea has only her opinion and fading memory of dorians responses. yet other reporters have video. including the video where dorian thinks we are all involved in bitcom.. that is one hell of a slip of the tongue...

thats like a priest calling jesus, jason. somthing they have been involved in and dedicated to for years and they cant even get the name right.. the real bitcoin inventor wouldnt make that mistake.. but a innocent guy would

Good find Smiley
legendary
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Making money since I was in the womb! @emc2whale
Do you want to call your bank and talk to someone who works from home, who may or may not be smoking a joint with some of their friends.

Its a fucking joke.

I work a lot from home and may or may not be smoking a joint right now.  Does that make me a joke?

Only if you lead me to believe that my personal info stored with your site is safe and secure. I have no problem with working from home. I just have a problem when I call into virtex and need to talk about my account with many thousands of dollars in it and I cant be sure who may be in the room hearing my call.

When I call Scotia bank (that's who I bank with) I know I'm calling someone in an office building somewhere. Most probably in a cubicle but I know for sure that the person I am talking to wont be having friends over who may be able to hear or see my info.

If you're ok with this then by all means you have a right to use the service, but don't try to fool others in here. Virtex is a dangerous place to trade based on the FACTS:  that they admit to using fake names, use a UPS store as their primary address, customer service reps work from home and create a very weak link.

If you would like to discuss this further please post on the virtex thread as I think we hijacked this thread long enough.
hero member
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my mother said my cousin said the friend of his friend told my uncle that my mother said

My mother said my uncle is my aunt. True story!
member
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Leah has a new project. She is calling 867-5309 in every area code and asking every woman who answers if she is Jenny. Anyone who doesn't immediately say no gets doxxed.
legendary
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Do you want to call your bank and talk to someone who works from home, who may or may not be smoking a joint with some of their friends.

Its a fucking joke.

I work a lot from home and may or may not be smoking a joint right now.  Does that make me a joke?
legendary
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Making money since I was in the womb! @emc2whale
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Bob, please fix your post: you have added your words as though they were mine.  

Your theory was that everyone at cavirtex uses a fake name and then later you admited that David Joseph might be a real name (and then came up with another theory that he changed his name).  

So I think I've already proven my point: you don't know either way.  



Its not letting me fix it.  until I see proof that Joseph is his real name I must assume I am correct. DID YOU NOT SEE WHERE THEY ADMIT TO USING FAKE NAMES  Peter? Even the "business development manager" uses a fake name.  Grin

Who cares if he changed his name or whatever. They have clients call into "call centers" where the reps, working from HOME talk about personal info, bank info, ect FROM HOME! Do you want to call your bank and talk to someone who works from home, who may or may not be smoking a joint with some of their friends.

Its a fucking joke.
legendary
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leah mcgrath goodman is a known liar.

she has been proven time and time before that she changes peoples quotes, twists people words and ruins peoples lives.

if you dont believe me. here is a facebook group dedicated to her lies:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/152252848262001/

lea has only her opinion and fading memory of dorians responses. yet other reporters have video. including the video where dorian thinks we are all involved in bitcom.. that is one hell of a slip of the tongue...

thats like a priest calling jesus, jason. somthing they have been involved in and dedicated to for years and they cant even get the name right.. the real bitcoin inventor wouldnt make that mistake.. but a innocent guy would
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