⭕️LEALANA BRASS XMR COINS FOR SALE ⭕️ - page 4.

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Quote from: owlcatz on October 26, 2016, 07:19:58 PM

Quote from: Hellot on October 26, 2016, 06:49:47 PM

Quote from: smoothie on October 26, 2016, 06:43:48 PM

Note: Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate

Can you explain the logic behind this? How will people get the view key for the buyer funded coins?

Pretty sure at one point he ruled buyer-funded coins out altogether, so yes, this is a good question.

Edit - if anyone would like to split a roll with me, funded, shoot me a pm. I will pay in xmr, & you can pay me 1/2 in btc or xmr, we can work it out or use escrow if you wish.

thanks!

I'd be happy to split a roll 50/50 with you. Smoothie, any way we can pay you separately to ensure the process goes smoothly?

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Nice looking coins smoothie, love the look of the holograms on these.

I'll be adding one to my small but growing collection

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Quote from: Hellot on October 26, 2016, 08:11:06 PM

Quote from: smoothie on October 26, 2016, 07:59:09 PM

Quote from: Hellot on October 26, 2016, 06:49:47 PM

Quote from: smoothie on October 26, 2016, 06:43:48 PM

Note: Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate

Can you explain the logic behind this? How will people get the view key for the buyer funded coins?

View key exists when the coin address is created. That will be given for any and all coins sold.

The digital certificate has the signed message containing the key images that prove the coin is funded.

I'm still confused because you said "Digital Certificate for each coin similar to below (Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate):"

Never mind, I'm stupid.

No worries man.

Monero is a different animal

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Quote from: Hellot on October 26, 2016, 07:31:04 PM

Quote from: owlcatz on October 26, 2016, 07:19:58 PM

Pretty sure at one point he ruled buyer-funded coins out altogether, so yes, this is a good question.

The only coins smoothie has ever stated would not be sold unfunded are the silver monero coins(25,50,100). He appears to be structuring these like his previous offerings but with those coins you didn't need a view key to check if they are funded so there was still the possibility of a secondary market. Without a way to verify the funds no one is going to buy one of these coins on the secondary market. I'm wondering if that is his intention or he just overlooked it in this case.

You can't prove the balance of a XMR address with just the viewkey. A viewkey only shows incoming transactions not outgoing transactions.

You need the key images signed with the private key to prove funding. Hence the digital certificate.

This is a common misconception.

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Quote from: smoothie on October 26, 2016, 07:59:09 PM

Quote from: Hellot on October 26, 2016, 06:49:47 PM

Quote from: smoothie on October 26, 2016, 06:43:48 PM

Note: Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate

Can you explain the logic behind this? How will people get the view key for the buyer funded coins?

View key exists when the coin address is created. That will be given for any and all coins sold.

The digital certificate has the signed message containing the key images that prove the coin is funded.

I'm still confused because you said "Digital Certificate for each coin similar to below (Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate):"

Never mind, I'm stupid.

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Quote from: Hellot on October 26, 2016, 07:31:04 PM

Quote from: owlcatz on October 26, 2016, 07:19:58 PM

Pretty sure at one point he ruled buyer-funded coins out altogether, so yes, this is a good question.

The only coins smoothie has ever stated would not be sold unfunded are the silver monero coins(25,50,100). He appears to be structuring these like his previous offerings but with those coins you didn't need a view key to check if they are funded so there was still the possibility of a secondary market. Without a way to verify the funds no one is going to buy one of these coins on the secondary market. I'm wondering if that is his intention or he just overlooked it in this case.

Unfunded coins will be marked as such "unfunded" on their holograms. And those coins will not have a digital certificate because there is no funding to prove (with key images).

The secondary market can exist if I make the marking on unfunded coins large enough to see with the naked eye.

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Quote from: Hellot on October 26, 2016, 06:49:47 PM

Quote from: smoothie on October 26, 2016, 06:43:48 PM

Note: Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate

Can you explain the logic behind this? How will people get the view key for the buyer funded coins?

View key exists when the coin address is created. That will be given for any and all coins sold.

The digital certificate has the signed message containing the key images that prove the coin is funded.

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Quote from: Hellot on October 26, 2016, 07:31:04 PM

Quote from: owlcatz on October 26, 2016, 07:19:58 PM

Pretty sure at one point he ruled buyer-funded coins out altogether, so yes, this is a good question.

The only coins smoothie has ever stated would not be sold unfunded are the silver monero coins(25,50,100). He appears to be structuring these like his previous offerings but with those coins you didn't need a view key to check if they are funded so there was still the possibility of a secondary market. Without a way to verify the funds no one is going to buy one of these coins on the secondary market. I'm wondering if that is his intention or he just overlooked it in this case.

Ok so I'm confused - how can you verify the balance of the silvers without the viewkey? I don't see any difference with these coins, other than they will be loaded with 5 XMR vs 25/50/100?

Thanks!

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Quote from: owlcatz on October 26, 2016, 07:19:58 PM

Pretty sure at one point he ruled buyer-funded coins out altogether, so yes, this is a good question.

The only coins smoothie has ever stated would not be sold unfunded are the silver monero coins(25,50,100). He appears to be structuring these like his previous offerings but with those coins you didn't need a view key to check if they are funded so there was still the possibility of a secondary market. Without a way to verify the funds no one is going to buy one of these coins on the secondary market. I'm wondering if that is his intention or he just overlooked it in this case.

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Quote from: Hellot on October 26, 2016, 06:49:47 PM

Quote from: smoothie on October 26, 2016, 06:43:48 PM

Note: Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate

Can you explain the logic behind this? How will people get the view key for the buyer funded coins?

Pretty sure at one point he ruled buyer-funded coins out altogether, so yes, this is a good question.

Edit - if anyone would like to split a roll with me, funded, shoot me a pm. I will pay in xmr, & you can pay me 1/2 in btc or xmr, we can work it out or use escrow if you wish.

thanks!

Hellot

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Quote from: smoothie on October 26, 2016, 06:43:48 PM

Note: Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate

Can you explain the logic behind this? How will people get the view key for the buyer funded coins?

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Note: Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate

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Interested!

PM sent.

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Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on October 26, 2016, 03:35:14 AM

Are you funding the coins out of your pocket or do we need to send you XMR first?

Neither, the buyer funds them. I just provide them the XMR coin addresses to fund.

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Quote from: miffman on October 26, 2016, 03:29:23 AM

When will the auctions go up?

and what is the turn around time if we order them?

Soon ^TM

Turn around time to getting them to ship out is currently 2-3 weeks as of right now.

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Are you funding the coins out of your pocket or do we need to send you XMR first?

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When will the auctions go up?

and what is the turn around time if we order them?

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between a rock and a block!

Pm sent

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LEALANA Brass XMR Coins For Sale

MINTAGE (including 1000 giveaway coins) - 5000

PRICING & SHIPPING
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Singles - 0.0185 BTC (or equivalent conversion in XMR)
Unsecured shipping (USPS First Class Mail):
US - $2
International - $6

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Roll of 20 - 0.306 BTC (or equivalent conversion in XMR)
Unsecure shipping (USPS Priority Mail):
US - $10

Secure Shipping (USPS Registered Mail):
US - $30
International - $50

By purchasing these coins you are agreeing to the ALL of the terms listed at: http://lealana.com/tac.php

Serial #’s:
0 thru 999
A00 thru A99
B00 thru B99
.
.
.
Y00 thru Y99
Z00 thru Z99
etc.

Digital Certificate for each coin similar to below (Only funded coins prior to shipment will receive a digital certificate):

Code:

HASH:<4f665770f82010d1a9655eeb71c006a08c6215cc247dfd870bb74d0cccc8d154>

-------------------------------------------------START------------------------------------------------------
LEALANA PHYSICAL BRASS COIN 5 XMR SERIAL #398

XMR ADDRESS: 4AYFEzatMTMGj3eKHsfXnjNxAsMn8ztoiBP7mU3SyiemStzGKkCV2hRgrXGgdp8Ea7RiRL4D4zA1mJVeX3RzrRtNPX4ovcA

VIEW KEY: 7866ed794f32eb0fb56602ea65ac675aa320ef023a0d9aa382a122198ca870d2
Total # of Outputs:1
************************************INDIVIDUAL OUTPUT INFORMATION*******************************************
key_image: ........9cbc3ed65bc0b309276ad4d27061deb7d175ca13b6cb4d2a6cefb548c71c20f9
tx_id: ............771d46df6bf06cb392b6763a17a592a9f3851aba075676f4ff76ff55f899777d
output_public_key: 37e64706885eff4319bc6b3c48f30cb652c0692135b069254f81b631b0f31744
xmr_amount: .......5.000000000000

------------------------------------------------END---------------------------------------------------------

SIGNATURES:
<319453cefd5a6b7892f69826e622c71357bd211dc7f4b112f8421cbb9d0f85bc346608d64bdf7e68c05af4b78347a215362bb6bb9efceeeca48dcc5763c5a354>

OTHER ITEMS:
1. Holograms for FUNDED coins will be laser marked "5 XMR BRASS".
2. Coins that are not funded will have their hologram laser marked "UNFUNDED"
3. Reservations of specific numbers will not be allowed. Numbers will be randomly selected. Auctioned coins will be the only coins with specific #’s up to bid on for sale.
4. Unfunded coins shipped will not receive a digital certificate. The only information that will be provided are the public key(s) and address information associated with that coin.

If there are any other details I forgot I will add them here.

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